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Title: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on September 28, 2018, 09:49:53 pm
Well, I have been itching to build one of these for years. When I first saw it in Raiders of the Lost Ark, I loved the barrel band look. I finally found a 1937 Brazilian that has been modified so I am good to go. A barrel band for a Mauser rifle will fit and one arrived today. The top picture is what it will look like when done and the bottom one is the donor gun, the one with the adjustable sights.
(https://i.imgur.com/OMjrjo3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dqfRnOb.jpg)
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Baltimore Ed on September 28, 2018, 10:15:35 pm
I like it. I do an Indiana impression every so often, Indie’s bag is actually a gas mask bag. Had a stetson fedora long before he got his.. Picked up a real bullwhip too. A very hard trick to master. For my movie gun build I started on Deckerd’s blaster some years ago, need to get back on it. Good luck on yours.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Major 2 on September 29, 2018, 01:07:14 am
I got one a few weeks back ...Orbea Hermanos. In English, "Orbea Brothers"... for a song !

the idea was maybe Steam punk it , then I remembered this photo from "Lonesome Dove "  and it's in limbo at this point ...
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on September 29, 2018, 08:44:34 am
Ed, what is that Spaniard chambered for? If a 44 or 45 the Mauser rifle barrel band was within a few thousandths on my OD on my barrel.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: frimath on October 17, 2018, 08:51:45 pm
I love this project! Makes me want to do one of my own! What do you think the end cost will be when all said and done?
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 17, 2018, 09:01:38 pm
Well, I have $400 in the gun, $10 in the barrel band. Waiting for my smith to get the new barrel crowning tool for .45. Once he has it, the band goes on and we fit the sight. Going to take it from 5 1/2" to about 4, 4 1/2 or 5. I don't know for sure yet, going to take it down 1/2" at a time to see what looks best.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 17, 2018, 09:04:45 pm
Major, I like the steampunk idea. That particular rig would make it hard to push the cylinder open, maybe just use the upper cylinder?
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 18, 2018, 06:12:31 am
 :o Oh lord, You messed with a Masterpiece? Or is it just a Brazilian copy?
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 18, 2018, 08:16:51 am
It's a Brazilian from the 1937 contract. However, it has had S&W adjustable sights milled in, so no collector's value. It's a very good shooter, so I'm looking forward to this.
 
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 18, 2018, 08:57:17 am
It's a Brazilian from the 1937 contract. However, it has had S&W adjustable sights milled in, so no collector's value. It's a very good shooter, so I'm looking forward to this.
Pitspitr sighs relieved  :) Oh Good! I've searched quite a while for a K-38 or a Model 14 that I could afford and finally won one on GunBroker last weekend. I should get to pick it up by the end of next week
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 18, 2018, 10:56:09 pm
Pit, which did you get?
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2018, 08:05:53 am
It's a K-38 Heavy Target Masterpiece. I haven't got my hands on it yet, so there's a lot I still don't know about it, but from the photo's it has aftermarket target grips and a target trigger shoe. I'm not an expert, but it looks to have the target hammer and by some of it's other characteristics I'd say it was probably made between 1950 and 1954. Until I see the serial I won't know for sure. Looks like it has some holster wear around the muzzle, but since I wanted it for a shooter, I really don't care about that.
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/5208/VXQBfQ.jpg)
(https://imageshack.com/a/img922/3751/oRw8Np.jpg)
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 19, 2018, 10:32:13 pm
Pit, that looks awfully nice! Those grips a certainly well executed, you will have to let me know how they feel. i am just a sucker for S&W K & N frames.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 20, 2018, 09:04:02 am
i am just a sucker for S&W K & N frames.
Me Too! And Smith and Wesson's in general.
I have 2 1899's, a 1902, a nickel M&P and a pair of model 10's with consecutive serial numbers. Then I also have a Canadian P-1914 and a M&P40
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2018, 11:59:29 am
Sorry for Hijacking...
My new K-38 was built in 1954. Still haven't gotten my hands on it but at least I know the serial # now.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 25, 2018, 07:09:23 pm
Crud, I'm happy to see more S&Ws! Do you have the right style grips for it or are you going to leave the customs on it?
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 26, 2018, 07:25:54 pm
The dealer is out of town so I can't actually pick it up until sometime next week, but they did let me look at (drool over) it.

The grips and trigger shoe feel really good, which surprises me as I have really short thick fingers so reaching the trigger can sometimes be an issue with some guns. It has the best trigger I've ever felt and that is saying something with as good as the trigger on my nickel M&P is. It is in really nice condition too!

I'll probably leave it as is for now. I probably won't buy factory grips for it until after I get it lettered so I know which grips came with it.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 26, 2018, 10:08:13 pm
When you find out let me know, I have a couple of nice sets of different styles. Might be something you could use.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on October 30, 2018, 09:52:58 am
Deacon, you'll appreciate this:

Saturday I was at a pawn shop in Lincoln and they had a factory S&W presentation case sitting on the counter complete with a factory cleaning rod, screwdriver and documents for a target M-1955. It was about 1/3 of what I'm seeing them selling for online so it came home with me. Hopefully the insert for the N frame won't be that much too big for my K-38. If it is I do have a Canadian P-14 that would go in it.

Anybody need the factory Documentation for a target model 1955?

Oh, and again; Sorry for Hijacking...
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on October 30, 2018, 08:25:08 pm
Please tell me it's not for a 5" N Frame...........whimper
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on November 01, 2018, 06:10:38 am
Please tell me it's not for a 5" N Frame...........whimper
It doesn't appear to be. It looks like a 6" I'll let you know for sure this weekend when I finally pick up the K-38
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on November 01, 2018, 02:30:21 pm
Back to the Indy Project Gun...

I have seen the barrel band on some of Elmer Kieth's pistols also

can anyone explain the "why" of the barrel band/front sight?

was /is it an expediant for easily mounting a front sight on a chopped barrel?

inquiry minds, blah blah blah.

pf mvl

Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on November 01, 2018, 07:14:31 pm
I can't speak for Elmer, but for me, I just like the looks of it.
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Professor Marvel on November 02, 2018, 01:23:38 am
I see from the web photos that King's and others offered barrel band front sights on pistols, which apparently originated on
big game and military rifles rifles  ....

I can see they would be he77 for stought, and also offer some further canvas for artistic endevours:

(https://www.newenglandcustomgun.com/images/Classic%20Ramp%20Folding%20Hood%20Engraved.jpg)

(https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/CT-0312-1.jpg)

(https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/wp-content/uploads/images/auctions/373/images/lrg/47801x16.jpg)

I am currently fussing with a few of these I just picked up, turning them into lightweight shrouds for my Dan Wesson.
A band around the front sight might just be the ticket for a littel "issue" i have...

(https://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/products/1087910.jpg)

yhs
prof (lost his marbles) marvel
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on November 02, 2018, 10:18:20 am
Those are beautiful! I was really fortunate to discover that surplus Mauser rifle barrel bands are almost exactly [within a few thousandths] of the diameter I needed. So now, next week when i get home, I will start the process of lowering the squared portion cut down to accept a proper looking front sight. Please keep us posted on your progress with the DW!
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: Pitspitr on November 03, 2018, 03:25:58 pm
I finally got it home. If it weren't for the target grips, it would fit nicely in the presentation case.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/iXySD2.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/v4tMrT.jpg)
Title: Re: A new project, the Indy gun
Post by: DeaconKC on November 03, 2018, 07:28:38 pm
Pit, it couldn't fit better! Congrats!