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Title: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 08, 2015, 06:40:53 am
Hopefully this is early enough that everybody can put in for time off now and get it.

I will be hosting the 2016 Grand Muster, June 24th, 25th & 26th, at my farm.  

This Muster will be open to anyone in the GAF. If not currently a member I can help you register. (Membership in the GAF is free and easy) By using Google Earth and going to  41°40'16.24"N Latitude and  99°19'42.54"W Longitude you can see the Grand Muster site. Registration forms is attached below and is also available on the dispatches page of the Grand Army's Web site. Particpation will be limited to 40 shooters. Registration is $80,  an extra Sat. eve. banquet ticked is $15. Meals will be available on site from Delmonico. Those wishing to attend but not compete may do so without registration fee, but be sure to pay the meal fee if you plan to eat with us.

The planned activities include: a 4 stage GAF steel target main match, a long range match, a Precision Pistol match and a GAF Expansion Era Match. While 4 stages for the main match doesn't sound like much these four stages will be of the skirmish format and will feature about 20 knock down targets per stage. Stage design will recount scenes from the great Sioux War of 1876 including; Reno's valley fight and Water Carriers Ravine and Last Stand Hill. Round counts will be dependent on the number of times the shooter needs to shoot at each target to get it to fall. 100 rounds at least would be a good plan. This is a match that participants say truly needs to be experienced to be fully appreciated.

Shooters will be able to sight in their rifles on Thursday and Friday afternoon and evening. Sighting in your rifles for the distances used is STRONGLY encouraged.

Long Range Rifle will be 100-300yds. on armor so full power jacketed bullets are fine for it.

This muster will be a primative camping event. We will have a tent city and I have tentage for about 10 individuals if you don't have your own contact me, I can help. We should be easily able to get photos without anything modern in them. We should have plenty of time to sit around the campfire and visit.

The average high temperature in this area on June 27th is 84 degrees

I've attached a FAQ sheet and a suggested equipment list.

Thursday June 23
All Day-Check in
7:00- Breakfast
8:30-12:00 Squad Leader/Range Master Shoot Through
1:00-Completion Rifle Sight in

Friday, June 24
All Day- Check-In
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30– 6:00 Side Matches (EEM, EEM Long Range, EEM Sidearm), The Command will be split into 3 Squads to complete the side matches.
12:00– Lunch
Sight in targets will be available after lunch.
6:00-Supper
8:30- Retreat

Saturday, June 25  
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30– 6:00 Main Matches (Including Long Range & the Sidearm matches)
12:00– Lunch
7:30- Formal Banquet  Retreat following

Sunday, June 26
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30-12:00- Complete Last Stand Hill Stage and any other stages not completed
12:30– 1:30- Lunch
2:00- Awards & Final Muster

We expect to run 4 Squads shooting concurrently. Each squad will cycle through 3 of the main matches, the long range match and the sidearm match on Saturday. The Long Range Match and the Precision Pistol Match will each be treated as a stage. We will run ahead of schedule if possible.

Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Quick Fire on July 08, 2015, 06:49:15 am
You can count me in General, Sir, and once again I will be there early if you need my help.

Respectfully;

Quick Fire
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 08, 2015, 06:56:10 am
It worked really well having the RO's shoot through early this year. I really appreciated your help and would appreciate it again next year!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on July 08, 2015, 11:20:46 am
I plan on showing up Monday next year rather than my normal Tuesday.   When we get closer I'll start a seperate theard so we can keep a head count on how many are going to be there those days.   

Smaller groups give me more flexibility to make some different dishes than when we have larger crowds so be thinking of some ideas.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on July 08, 2015, 05:01:46 pm
Just to reemphasize, you do not need a uniform to shoot.  You got the guns, you're good to go.  You show up in shorts and a tee shirt, we'll give you a flat cap, call 'em knickers, and make you a very elderly aggressive newsboy!   Check out the 1884 uniform thread for a very easy, affordable uniform.   ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on July 09, 2015, 05:54:34 pm
As always, anyone who can make it to Omaha by sundown, Wednesday, June 22nd, I'll put you up in my Road Ranch and we can caravan, or double/triple up, on the trek into Sargent the following day. Includes feeding you dinner and breakfast.

If flying into Omaha, I'll pick you up and drop you off at Epply Airport as needed..


RCJ


 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 10, 2015, 12:50:54 pm
My Quartermaster and I had a long discussion last evening and we have some really cool ideas for at least 3 of the 4 main stages based on the Little Bighorn Battle (yes Drydock, LOTS of pistol targets  :o )  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on July 10, 2015, 08:13:30 pm
Well, it's not that I don't trust you . . .
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 13, 2015, 04:18:40 pm
....We now return to our regularly scheduled programing.  ;)

I just talked with Theresa at the Wildlife Inn at Taylor and spoke for a few rooms. I cannot emphasize this enough, this is a very big weekend for the motels in the area as it the weekend that the schools at Burwell and Sargent hold all their class reunions. IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT WANT A MOTEL ROOM CALL AND BOOK IT NOW!
The phone number for the Wildlife Inn at Taylor is 308-942-6234. If they aren't available to take your call leave a message, they will call back.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on July 15, 2015, 05:13:45 pm
....We now return to our regularly scheduled programing.  ;)

I just talked with Theresa at the Wildlife Inn at Taylor and spoke for a few rooms. I cannot emphasize this enough, this is a very big weekend for the motels in the area as it the weekend that the schools at Burwell and Sargent hold all their class reunions. IF YOU THINK YOU MIGHT WANT A MOTEL ROOM CALL AND BOOK IT NOW!
The phone number for the Wildlife Inn at Taylor is 308-942-6234. If they aren't available to take your call leave a message, they will call back.

Pitspitr,
We are a whole year out.  If you could bump the Muster a week later, Mark and I would be better equipped to come again.  First, I cannot camp - too much ortho problems.  Also, it is back to back with the NCOWS National Shoot, which is pretty much mandatory for us Senators and Officers.  Driving 15 hours each way back to back was really rough on us.  Just a thought.  I may  not be able to make it if you cannot bump it a week to avoid the problems with the class reunions and such.  I really liked the Comstock!  And we totally had a great time at the muster 2015!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 17, 2015, 07:27:12 am
Pitspitr,
We are a whole year out.  If you could bump the Muster a week later, Mark and I would be better equipped to come again.  First, I cannot camp - too much ortho problems.  Also, it is back to back with the NCOWS National Shoot, which is pretty much mandatory for us Senators and Officers.  Driving 15 hours each way back to back was really rough on us.  Just a thought.  I may  not be able to make it if you cannot bump it a week to avoid the problems with the class reunions and such.  I really liked the Comstock!  And we totally had a great time at the muster 2015!
I understand the problem the timing of the Muster creates for our NCOWS members. We lose Dusty Tagalon every other year for this reason. It seems I'm really between a rock and a hard place on the timing of the Muster. When I first started hosting the Dept. of the Missouri Muster 5 years ago it was in the middle of July. Every year we had to deal with 105+ temps. after a couple of years we voted to move the time up to try to catch a little cooler temperatures. At the time we talked to the NCOWS members who were attending and asked for their thoughts. We ended up selecting the last weekend in June to try to stay as far away from NCOWS Nationals as possible while still staying in June. I can't move it up to May as I work in a school and we don't get out until late May. I can't move it back to August because I'm getting computers ready to go for the next year. If I go to the July 4th weekend I'm not sure I could survive the mutiny at home. We always have several family functions that weekend including one of my daughter's birthday and picnics. My wife feels like her patience with my shooting is stretched to the limit as it is. On the other hand the 4th of July weekend would give folks an extra day to travel and I knew that so I asked my staff for their opinion before you ever mentioned it. They were of the position that if we don't leave it set at the same weekend every year we'll end up losing people because they'll never be sure just when it is. Even if we did change it, it would only be for 1 year as I already have the Comstock booked for 2017.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on July 17, 2015, 01:55:12 pm
I get the timing issue.  Thanks for considering.  If I can get a room booked at Wildlife in Taylor, Mark and I will be there.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Jake C on August 01, 2015, 05:08:24 pm
Well, I don't think it's likely that I'll be able to compete, but if there'd be a tent available, I'd happily pay just for the chance to come out for a day or two, watch, meet everyone, and enjoy a bit of a road trip there and back. Might bring the Missus, if thats okay with you all. I'd likely have a uniform by then, though she'll be in modern civvies.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on August 01, 2015, 05:14:04 pm
Come on out, visiting is free(except for the food).
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on August 03, 2015, 07:42:57 am
Sounds like the Wildlife Inn at Taylor is fully booked for the weekend now by GAF members.

If you're still looking for close motels you might want to check with the Crest motel in Taylor at (308) 942-3430
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on August 03, 2015, 07:44:18 am
Well, I don't think it's likely that I'll be able to compete, but if there'd be a tent available,...
I have a couple of Dog Tents. I'm short a few poles or I could put up the Teepee
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on August 07, 2015, 08:40:56 am
If she who must be obeyed agrees we may be able to make it next year finally.  We want to go to Montana and Alaska with the 5r.  Having a sister in Stevensville Montana, I even have a safe place to stash my guns safely if I do not want to go thru the hassle of doing the canadian and american forms to get them out of the country across canada back in to the US and repeat on the way back.

This is all predicated on an out of sight place to park the 5r and she who wont sleep in a tent or walk to an outhouse in the middle of the night.

Does such a spot exist on the range?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Major 2 on August 07, 2015, 09:32:09 am
Capt.,

 I can relate & sympathize  :)

The "SHE" Commandant ....set such conditional constraints on my pack.....

Port O let's were unapproachable, unacceptable and my undoing .... It had to flush & it had to be HERS ...so yeah !

Tenting tonight.... "SHE tried it the once..NOPE !  ... The final was the Horse transporter, was 28' Living quarters , with Shower , sink  & commode.

I was pretty much OK with it though... after  25 years of out of the saddle & or Tenting ....the last 5-6 years were OK to retire to the
LQ with queen bed....complete with QUEEN !  :)


Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on August 07, 2015, 06:27:19 pm
Cpt Blodgett, It is possible to get a 5th wheel up there, has been done before. But it has to be dry to do it, and dry for it to go down. I guess if "she" wanted a private campground, you could park at the parking area at the canyons where we shoot the EEM stage.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on August 07, 2015, 07:43:21 pm
Cpt Blodgett, It is possible to get a 5th wheel up there, has been done before. But it has to be dry to do it, and dry for it to go down. I guess if "she" wanted a private campground, you could park at the parking area at the canyons where we shoot the EEM stage.

I bet Jerry wouldn't mind using his yard also and maybe the lovely Mrs. Pitspiter would invite her in for tea.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on August 07, 2015, 08:11:53 pm
But it has to be dry to do it, and dry for it to go down

I've added rock to the worst of the trail.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on August 08, 2015, 11:28:56 am
Might work just fine have a 3500 dually and 4 wheel drive.  Understand about dry I would not want to 1 make ruts or 2 need a tractor to get us unstuck.  Not so much of a private campground issue, just thought a 5r would not mix well with period tents.

Thanks, I have tentative approval for the trip, all things being subject to change.
SWMBO actually outranked me on active duty, tough living with a retired LTC Nurse, the saving grace is she was a pediatric nurse which really works well as I never grew up or if i did was for a very short period prior to going into my second childhood
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on August 08, 2015, 11:41:37 am
It's a pretty good size area at the top, they just put the modern stuff over where the cars park. Not so much a rut problem, but the road goes along a bit of a "razorback" where the ground slopes off both sides of the trail. First time we drove up there, my wife wasn't sure cars could drive there! But the last time, she was going up and down like a pro....
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on August 08, 2015, 11:51:37 am
Soil type up there makes the road as slippery as snot on ice, nice thing is that part doesn't last long.   
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on August 08, 2015, 12:18:00 pm
It has been a long time since I rigged a capstan roller, dead fall and about 3 or 4 snatch blocks, but may remember how.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 14, 2015, 03:57:51 pm







  We will try to make it to next Muster.  I want to try competing with the Krag.




Outstanding Sir, A fine choice in weaponry!



My Quartermaster and I had a long discussion last evening and we have some really cool ideas for at least 3 of the 4 main stages based on the Little Bighorn Battle (yes Drydock, LOTS of pistol targets  :o )  ;D


Oh really?! Lots of pistol targets! :D  Notice the bold text in Mustang Gregg's sig line-


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Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on August 14, 2015, 04:33:17 pm
Sir Charles, I'm hoping this means we'll be seeing you next year?



RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 14, 2015, 05:43:38 pm



Yes, I hope to be there Sir. I really do miss you guys!!



Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on August 14, 2015, 07:28:04 pm
The Principle Duty of the GAF Chief of Staff seems to be saying "NO!" a lot . . .  That and tractor driving.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2015, 06:14:45 am
I spoke with the owner of the Wildlife Inn and it appears that we have indeed booked the entire motel. If anybody else is looking to make motel reservations you probably need to be getting it done.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2015, 09:02:53 am
As I'm sure most everyone is aware (we've discussed it here before) The Comstock Lodge, our host for the Grand muster banquet the last couple of years, is unavailable for the 2016 banquet. As a result I've been hunting for a suitable replacement venue. It was suggested that we hold the banquet at the camp site, but I'm uncomfortable with this as the possibility of weather issues and dress uniforms don't mix that well. Anyway, I am pleased to announce that I have made arrangements for the banquet to be held at Ft. Hartsuff's barracks and mess hall with a local restaurant catering the meal.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Ft. Hartsuff, it is a restored 1870's Army post. Given that we will be celebrating the anniversary of the Bighorn and Yellowstone Expedition next year and that the date of the banquet actually falls on the exact date of the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn this should be an especially appropriate site to hold the banquet.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on October 19, 2015, 11:37:48 am
And will a guided tour by a quaified tour guide be availible?   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Oh, I suppose it could be arranged.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on October 19, 2015, 12:43:36 pm
Oh, I suppose it could be arranged.  ;)

Cool will be good to see Roy again.    ;D ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2015, 01:55:13 pm
Cool will be good to see Roy again.    ;D ;)
??? ::) :o >:( :P


You like KP don't you?  :)


Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on October 19, 2015, 03:14:14 pm
You walked right into that one Pitspitr...but recovered well with a good response.
Y'all keep this going...I could use some entertainment.  it's getting boring around here, or maybe I'm just getting bored.

LOL thanks, by the way Roy Lindsey is the retired long time super of Ft Hartsuff and a very interesting historian to talk to.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on October 19, 2015, 03:31:11 pm
I am very much looking forward to the Muster, and now even more so with the location for the dinner.
While on vacation last month, I made an unplanned visit to Ft. Verde, near Sedona, AZ.  I spent a very long time there.  The older I get, the more old things facinate me!  I helps me to appreciate how easy we have it now!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on October 19, 2015, 04:53:49 pm
One of my favorite memories now is the 2009 Muster, where we spent the night in the Ft Hartsuff barracks.  Wind howling, wood stoves glowing, and the threat (fullfilled!) of snow in the air.  Uniforms hanging on the wall hooks, racks filled with appropriate weapons. Magnificent!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on October 19, 2015, 05:09:10 pm
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Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on October 19, 2015, 05:32:02 pm
2009, I remember that one well, my first Muster. And my coldest. Didn't get to stay in the barracks, though, since I was travelling with the family, we stayed in town.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 20, 2015, 06:23:09 am
Not exactly warm memories, but they are fond memories.

Glen, Roye's showing his age. I saw him at a football game earlier this year and it kind of surprised me how much he's aged...but I imagine he could still give you a tour.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on October 20, 2015, 07:22:38 pm
The banquet at the Fort sounds great. I can't wait.

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on October 20, 2015, 08:11:34 pm
As I'm sure most everyone is aware (we've discussed it here before) The Comstock Lodge, our host for the Grand muster banquet the last couple of years, is unavailable for the 2016 banquet. As a result I've been hunting for a suitable replacement venue. It was suggested that we hold the banquet at the camp site, but I'm uncomfortable with this as the possibility of weather issues and dress uniforms don't mix that well. Anyway, I am pleased to announce that I have made arrangements for the banquet to be held at Ft. Hartsuff's barracks and mess hall with a local restaurant catering the meal.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Ft. Hartsuff, it is a restored 1870's Army post. Given that we will be celebrating the anniversary of the Bighorn and Yellowstone Expedition next year and that the date of the banquet actually falls on the exact date of the 140th anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn this should be an especially appropriate site to hold the banquet.

EXCELLENT!!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Galen on October 21, 2015, 05:52:17 pm
Is there indoor pumbing?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on October 21, 2015, 06:18:27 pm
Is there indoor pumbing?

At the fort, yeah, at Camp Pitspiter, not that I know of. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on October 22, 2015, 05:53:00 am
Only outdoor plumbing is available at the camp. But as long as it's a sunny day, there's warm water for the outdoor shower, and a hose to supply the camp itself. At Fort Hartsuff, no running water in the barracks/mess hall, but there's a well house with bathrooms.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on October 29, 2015, 09:51:31 am
The registration form is attached to the first post of this thread and will likely be posted on the GAF website in the next couple of days.
I strongly recommend folks getting registered early this year. I know we have already completely booked all the rooms in one of the local motels, so I'm thinking participation will be up as most folks always camped in the past. We had 21 in attendance last year, but we've had strong interest from another 24 who weren't attendance last year. If everybody who attended last year comes back and those other 24 all end up making plans to attend that would put us over the 40 participant limit we've had to set.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on November 02, 2015, 10:27:24 am
Congratulations to Lt. Col. Kit Peak Kid.

Official 2016 Grand Muster registrant #1!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on November 08, 2015, 01:07:40 am
I am sure there is a tread somewhere with this information but...

What are the max and min ranges for targets for the GAF and Expansion Era Match?  Decisions decisions 1888 TD, 1898 Krag, 03 springfield.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on November 08, 2015, 07:53:21 am
There's not really a minimum range-if you're missing, or the targets don't go down, you can move up. I think the longest shot, at least on the stages I'm familiar with, is one "across the valley" shot that I believe is still less than 100 yards.

Long range was changed last year, and I wasn't there. Previously it was 300 yards, and full power jacketed ammo was allowed for that one.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on November 08, 2015, 07:27:51 pm
Ranges vary from 20 to 100 yards, on half scale silhouette targets.  Long ranges uses full power ammunition on 3 armor steel targets placed 100-200-300 yards  See below for a Skirmish run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4EjUYh8mxc
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2016, 05:34:51 pm
We're over halfway there, less than 6 months till the Muster:


(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/2016%20muster/wvp9g_zps43rhrgpu.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/2016%20muster/wvp9g_zps43rhrgpu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2016, 05:36:47 pm
Oh and grab an arm load of wood and drop it by the fire on the way back.   ;)


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Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2016, 05:38:45 pm
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Grand%20Muster%202015/DM/11666096_10153450748874252_4381585000847361740_n_zpsgbqm2aua.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/Grand%20Muster%202015/DM/11666096_10153450748874252_4381585000847361740_n_zpsgbqm2aua.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: rbertalotto on January 06, 2016, 01:43:29 pm
I'M IN! And the Quigley is the weekend before! What a great two week vacation!

I'll be driving out from New England, pulling a travel trailer,  if anyone wants to come along.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 06, 2016, 02:40:25 pm
Glad to hear it Roy! Looking forward to meeting you.

Note to our regular attendees: this might not be a good year to wait until the last minute to send in your registrations.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on January 07, 2016, 09:21:06 pm
As for my star joke, this is truer than you might think, camp is about where the yellow dot is. 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 08, 2016, 06:14:47 am
As for my star joke, this is truer than you might think,
Yeah except maybe not quite so many trees.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on January 08, 2016, 11:09:32 am
Remember "Only you can prevent a forest."     ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 14, 2016, 05:53:29 pm
Congratulations to:
Good Troy,
Bat Masterson and
River City John

Registrations all received
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 15, 2016, 12:12:26 pm
I was looking at some old pictures from previous Musters and it occurred to me; I kinda miss Texas Sgt., Scooter, Bowview Haymaker, Windy City Joe, Guns Garrett, Megan O'Ruckus, Cherry Lake Kate, Major Matt Lewis and Cowtown Scout. Not to Mention Stu Kettle, Cherry Lake Jake, and Curly LaGrande
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on January 16, 2016, 04:47:13 am
Congratulations to:
Good Troy,
Bat Masterson and
River City John

Registrations all received
;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on January 16, 2016, 05:54:36 am
Me too!  I would add Charles Isaac and Captain Mack to that list.  Been far to long since we've seen some of these folks.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 16, 2016, 06:05:18 pm
Me too!  I would add Charles Isaac and Captain Mack to that list.  Been far to long since we've seen some of these folks.
My bad. Yes I should have included them in my list
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on January 17, 2016, 07:50:30 pm
My registration is going in the mail Tuesday!  Going to try single shot military blackpowder  this time. Only seems right for the Little Bighorn fight. I was inspired last year by a Texican that goes by Oklahoma Tom, or Hamish Scott, depending whether or not he's wearing a dress! (kilt) Beautiful green Scot tartan by the way!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on January 17, 2016, 08:41:52 pm
My registration is going in the mail Tuesday!  Going to try single shot military blackpowder  this time. Only seems right for the Little Bighorn fight. I was inspired last year by a Texican that goes by Oklahoma Tom, or Hamish Scott, depending whether or not he's wearing a dress! (kilt) Beautiful green Scot tartan by the way!

I need to get my registration in. 1st Sgt. Tom Rhodes will be at Little Big Horn with the 7th Cav -- again. I believe my Irish and Scots counterparts will be otherwise engaged. Area for bivouac has been procured.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on January 25, 2016, 12:10:31 pm
I dropped registration package in the mail today.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 29, 2016, 08:24:53 am
Congratulations to:
Ira Scott,
Dusty Tagalon and
Capt. Dan Blodgett

Registrations all received
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on January 29, 2016, 09:18:15 am
I am getting excited here, People!

So I'm going to assume, unless I hear differently, that I should plan on bringing both GAF and American Plainsman appropriate gear.



RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 29, 2016, 11:52:23 am
I am getting excited here, People!

Me too! I think this is the most competitors we've had registered this early, and we're seeing several new faces.

Yep, real excited!

I'll let Col. Neiderlander address the Plainsman stage.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on January 30, 2016, 03:56:28 pm
1st Sht Tom Rhodes will be sending in his registration this week.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 30, 2016, 05:10:02 pm
So, Sgt Rhodes, the latest Shootist came the other day and there's a picture on the back that looks vaguely familiar.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on January 30, 2016, 06:38:30 pm
If your referring to the fella on the Tshirt, I've met that scoundrel a time or two. My advice is don't trust that Tom Dunphy.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 30, 2016, 07:10:30 pm




I would add Charles Isaac and Captain Mack to that list. 


Pvt Isaac receives notable mention-I really am somebody, I really am! :D




Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on January 30, 2016, 07:40:27 pm
If your referring to the fella on the Tshirt, I've met that scoundrel a time or two. My advice is don't trust that Tom Dunphy.
   And that my friends is some good advice!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 30, 2016, 08:10:11 pm
Pvt Isaac receives notable mention-I really am somebody, I really am! :D
Private, have you found the registration form yet?

Where are you posted these days? There is another Recruit out on the East coast that maybe looking for a ride.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 30, 2016, 08:30:09 pm




Still in NE North Carolina-near where the Wright brothers first flew in 1903!






Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Mustang Gregg on January 30, 2016, 09:04:47 pm
Col Pitspitr:

Are the 100 -300 yd targets made of iron and scored by a clang or are they paper targets?

I'm going to have to find a revolver suitable for the Muster too.

Respectfully,
Lt Col Mustang Gregg
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on January 30, 2016, 09:08:07 pm
Long range targets are AR 500 armor steel,  meant for full power/jacketed loads, and clang they do!  There are no ammunition limitations for the Long Range event.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on January 31, 2016, 10:05:34 am
There are no ammunition limitations for the Long Range event.
And as a point of clarification; there are no ammunition limitations for the Precision Pistol either. The only limitations are on the main match targets.

Col. MG
There is a class for the rifle only if you wouldn't have an appropriate pistol; however, this would give you a nice excuse to buy another!  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Mustang Gregg on January 31, 2016, 07:31:25 pm
Reckon I better start looking for a Schoefield #3(??).   8)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on February 02, 2016, 02:40:54 pm



   

    A lotta people staying at hotels for this one it seems. Whats amatter with the campsite-is it DANGEROUS or something? Maybe some weird happenin's of sorts? :D



    Shouldn't be a problem for any Soldier or Seaman worth his salt. Especially the Soldier/Seamen! ;)



Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on February 02, 2016, 02:47:10 pm
Chas Isaac,
This will be my first muster.  I'm staying in a hotel...only because my favorite wife, aka Miss Red, aka Mary, will be going with me.    She doesn't mind camping, but she insisted on indoor plumbing.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on February 02, 2016, 03:00:53 pm




    I can understand that Troy. Lucky you, that she will even accompany you on such an excursion.



    My wife will camp with me sometimes, but there HAS to be a modern bath house and only if i get a site right next to it! ;)




Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on February 02, 2016, 05:44:05 pm
Sent my registration to Col. Pitspitr today...
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Cowolf on February 04, 2016, 02:26:51 pm
I would like to attend if you will have me back.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on February 04, 2016, 04:11:36 pm
I would like to attend if you will have me back.

We'll all have your back.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on February 04, 2016, 04:18:07 pm
I'm trying to figure out who it is, but I can't think of anyone we wouldn't want back.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on February 05, 2016, 08:42:24 am
I'm trying to figure out who it is, but I can't think of anyone we wouldn't want back.

Sure you remember Coy. He's the young little guy that makes Ned look Small.

We're counting on you being back Coy!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on February 05, 2016, 10:20:25 am
I hear he's got a Trapdoor Carbine.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on February 05, 2016, 11:26:01 am
Oh yes, I know who.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Sam Perfye on February 07, 2016, 05:07:51 pm
Gen. Pitspter, with the banquet being held at Fort Hartsuff and many folks wanting time to take a tour, do you think the last stages and awards will run later on Sun. than past musters? Doesn't matter, just trying to schedule time off and give my CO(wife) an estimated ETA. Looking foward to another great event with some of the best people I've ever met. See Ya, Al.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on February 21, 2016, 05:20:58 pm
Got me a Colt 1909. revolver for the expansion era match.

I will get a couple of chances to use my 1873 Carbine before the Muster.

Brian
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Jake C on February 22, 2016, 03:16:25 pm
Got me a Colt 1909. revolver for the expansion era match.

I will get a couple of chances to use my 1873 Carbine before the Muster.

Brian

I'm jealous. Love those early Colt DA revolvers.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on February 26, 2016, 12:46:10 pm
Gen. Pitspter, with the banquet being held at Fort Hartsuff and many folks wanting time to take a tour, do you think the last stages and awards will run later on Sun. than past musters? Doesn't matter, just trying to schedule time off and give my CO(wife) an estimated ETA. Looking foward to another great event with some of the best people I've ever met. See Ya, Al.
Gentlemen,
Please forgive my tardy responses. Our daughter-in-law gave birth to our first grandson a week ago last Monday and he passed away the next morning. As you can imagine things have been kind of chaotic last week and I'm just starting to get things straightened back out.
Al,
It is possible that we might have to run later Sunday than usual. I really expect to be able to get 3 of the 4 main stages (as well as the Long Range and Precision Pistol) done Saturday and finish up the last stage by Noon Sunday.

The last couple of years we had the Saturday Banquet at 7:00 so I'm thinking that we can give ourselves an extra 1/2 hour of travel time and have the banquet at 7:30. This will still give us a couple of hours of daylight to tour the fort afterward. Now if we can finish up the stages early enough that we can get over there earlier and do the tour first, that's what we'll do. If it's looking like we can't start a 3rd stage and still get to the fort my 7:30 we'll save one of the main stages for the next morning and run it at the same time as the stage near Ft. Scotsman.  Even then we'll most likely finish up by noon Sunday.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on March 17, 2016, 06:15:19 am
Exciting news!
Hornady is sponsoring a bunch of nice door prizes! They haven't gotten here yet, but I got notice yesterday that they have shipped. We may even have a company rep here.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on March 18, 2016, 06:56:18 am
Nice.

BTW, a M1916 holster arrived at my house yesterday.

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Major 2 on March 19, 2016, 12:20:07 am
that was quick... how is it ?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on March 19, 2016, 09:33:37 am
that was quick... how is it ?
It is real nice. I'm wearing it right now.  :)

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on April 24, 2016, 11:52:48 pm
Ah good news and maybe better news or bad news depending on how you look at it.
The good news is as things now stand I should be in the environs of Sargent on 23 Jun.
The mixed news is she who must be obeyed is not on board for dry camping so I will not be able to park on the farm.
We have a spot reserved in the Victoria Springs Recreation Area.
We hope an Old Army Nurse buddy of Anne's will join us there.  This will allow us to see her and provide some one for Anne to do womanly things with whilst I waste my time doing manly things.

I am getting stoked.  Need to spend more time on the range in preparation.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on April 25, 2016, 12:32:45 am
Hmmmmm.  Now I cannot remember if I've registered yet.  Getting old is not for the faint of heart. I do know I loaded all my ammo and have my uniform clean...

Col. Pitspitr, help a poor Sgt out?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on April 25, 2016, 04:34:12 am
Capt. Dan,
Victoria Springs is a nice quiet little campground. I was just by there Saturday and it's really pretty this time of year.

Brian,
Yes, both you and Mark are registered..
I'll try to get a list of currently registered participants published in the next few days.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: G.W. Strong on May 12, 2016, 10:38:00 am
Sadly due to my wife's health I will not be able to attend the muster this year.

Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on May 12, 2016, 11:01:51 am
You'll be missed, Doug!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on May 12, 2016, 11:58:46 am
Sadly due to my wife's health I will not be able to attend the muster this year.
I'll continue to send my prayers on her behalf.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Quick Fire on May 12, 2016, 05:13:45 pm
Prayers sent GW

Quick Fire
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on May 12, 2016, 05:46:08 pm
Doug, your family's still on the prayer list here.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on May 12, 2016, 07:42:35 pm
I'll be praying.

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on May 13, 2016, 07:29:14 am
GW...knee-mails being sent.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on May 14, 2016, 09:04:45 am
My registration is in the mailbox.

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on May 14, 2016, 01:16:35 pm
Doug:  Sorry to hear you will be unable to attend!  Best wishes for your wife's recovery ...

Jerry:  Did you receive my snail-mailed Registration and payment?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on May 15, 2016, 06:09:20 pm




    Sorry to hear this Col. Strong-prayers sent.



Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on May 22, 2016, 10:49:57 pm
Question concerning the long range pistol, I assume it's similar format to the Long range rifle? What are the ranges? I don't think I've ever shot either the Lebel or even my .45 at longer than about 15-20 yards. Other pistols I've tried at 100 and beyond, but never those two.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on May 23, 2016, 06:37:36 am
No, it's not "long range" pistol. It's precision pistol. 10 shots on a B-27 target at 25 yards. Highest score wins. X-ring count breaks ties followed by time.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on May 31, 2016, 06:17:44 pm
Once again a reminder that the GAF Muster relies on the traditional generosity of it's members as far as door prizes.

So, decommission those "gently used", "field tested" items or reference materials and throw them into your kit to be taken to the banquet Saturday night.

Thanks.
RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on May 31, 2016, 09:45:03 pm
I will do my best to bring some goodies, John!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 01, 2016, 08:01:32 am
Once again a reminder that the GAF Muster relies on the traditional generosity of it's members as far as door prizes.

So, decommission those "gently used", "field tested" items or reference materials and throw them into your kit to be taken to the banquet Saturday night.

Thanks.
RCJ

I'll bring something as well.  I have one book, and I'l probably bring a set of holsters or some other leather item.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Gripmaker on June 01, 2016, 03:24:39 pm
John,  I also have a few items as well as grips for the banquet. Sure hope someone brings some Apple Pie again this year. It has a tendency to last a long time around here what with the wife's raised eyebrows at the mention of it. Oh well.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 01, 2016, 04:34:43 pm
I trust you have learned not to mention it then, Chaplain!   ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 01, 2016, 04:58:55 pm
I bet I can turn up something...
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on June 01, 2016, 06:39:18 pm
John,  I also have a few items as well as grips for the banquet. Sure hope someone brings some Apple Pie again this year. It has a tendency to last a long time around here what with the wife's raised eyebrows at the mention of it. Oh well.
I'm glad you brought up the Apple Pie!  I'd almost forgotten about that.  I'll mix up a new batch, and drink a toast to Stu, who gave me the recipe!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 03, 2016, 10:16:11 pm
Sorry to hear about the health issues Doug, was looking forward to finally meeting a bunch of you folks.  Another year perhaps.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 05, 2016, 07:06:10 pm
Did we ever get a round count for the various matches.

I know the Rifle Long Range is something like 15 to make 9 hits 3 per at 100 and 200 before you can move to 300.

Early on in the thread there is a recommendation for 100 for the battle rifle.  Luckily I have upwards of 250 pieces of Krag Brass right now.
Have loaded 20 of my 210 grain cast on top of 40 grains AA4350 and 15 of my 173 GI ball on top of 41.5 gr varget to test for the Krag for long range this week.  Will also be Crono ing the 210 grain cast sitting on top of 10 gr AA2.  Will adjust that if they fly faster than 1400 fps.

I will be shooting my 98 Krag Rifle, Battle Rifle and Long Range.  Guess I will be shooting Infantry.

Will either shoot RNV 45 colt or 1911A1 in the pistol match
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 05, 2016, 07:26:47 pm
 Round count depends on how good a shot you are.  It can vary, but the average rifle target count per skirmish run is around 20.  So thats 80 or so targets over 4 runs.  And all are must hit.  So how many times do you think you'll miss?  And you'll want some for sighting in, and just plain plinking in the evening

Bring 200 rounds.  Never hurts to have some left over.  And everyone misses more than they think . . .
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 05, 2016, 07:49:48 pm
Last time I was able to get up there, I had about 140 pieces of Lebel brass, all loaded for main match. It was plenty, had some left to use possibly the only 1886 Lebel  ever in a Zoot match the next day. Due to lack of Lebel brass, I used a Swedish Mauser for my long range that year. This year I have plenty of brass, but none of the jacketed bullet loads I have tried so far are grouping acceptably. My main match loads can shoot 3-4" at 100 yards, if I do my part, but all the jacketed loads are spraying out 8" or more :-[
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 05, 2016, 08:55:04 pm
Do you have any Idea of the actual bore size of the Lebel?  The cast bullets might bump up to fill the bore and the Jacketed may be a tad undersized.

Drydock thanks for the recommendation.  Will prolly load up 30 of what shoots best for LR and all the rest of available brass at sub 1400 cast.  That should be a few more than 200 if I don't ruin any more cases.

I do have a bayonet just in case I run out of ammo.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 05, 2016, 09:04:53 pm
The bullets I am using are a little undersized, .323, while the rifle slugs out at .324-.325. Others have reported good results using flat base, .323 bullets with faster powders (I'm using 3031). My cast are sized at .325. I see that Buffalo now has .327 bullets in stock again, I may try them-but time's getting short, and I already have suitable bullets for the Swede or Argentine. I might even try my cast loads beyond 100 yards, but I'm already using 5-600 yard sight settings to get to 100- might run out of elevation getting to 300!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 05, 2016, 09:41:22 pm
If you can get lino type gas checks you should be able to run them 2100 FPS and make the trip.  I can in my Krag
Looks like Montana Bullet Works is back in business

http://www.montanabulletworks.com/8mm_or_32_40_Rifle.html  
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 05, 2016, 10:23:45 pm
The Saeco #81 bullet might work, takes a very long OAL in a Lebel to function as a repeater.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 09, 2016, 08:49:52 pm
Well I loaded up 220 rounds of Krag 210 gc over 10 gr AA2.  Could not get the chrony to pick up that bullet today.  Does not make much of a bang shoots close to point of aim at 25 and 50 but about 8 inches low at 100.  Did not take much wind to blow it 8 inches down wind.

I did load some 173 gr GI ball with close to max load of varget.  Decided 2600 FPS was too hot for the old krag, backed of a grain.  That should fly about 2500 fps.  I was getting nearly 300 fPs more than the tables stated guess that long  barrel on a krag wrings out the last bit of energy from the powder.  Could be the 173 grain ball generates more pressure due to the .3086 vs .308 diameter.  Probably does not hurt that the barrel is new with about 200 rounds through it.  All but the 15 173 gr FMJ I shot to day have been cast. Albeit with gas checks on nearly all of them.

Sitll undecided on what to shoot in Pistol either 45 Colt RNV 7.5 inch or the 1911.  Will bring bullets for both

Departure date is 1 week from this AM.  I am really looking forward to the Muster.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 10, 2016, 08:17:14 am
I am certainly excited about the Muster!  I feel like a kid...well, I still act like one most of the time.
The favorite wife is even getting into the spirit. She is building up her wardrobe, and trying to figure
how to wear her hair.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 10, 2016, 08:54:53 am
and trying to figure how to wear her hair.

Tell her not to worry too much, the wind will decide. ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 10, 2016, 11:26:46 am
... Departure date is 1 week from this AM. 

Good grief, are you walking to Muster?   ;)  We have roughly the same distance to travel, and I won't likely be setting out until the morning of June 21st .... 

(Just kidding ... as I assume you are probably sightseeing en route, or something like that ...  ;D )
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 10, 2016, 07:03:21 pm
Yes a night in Monument Valley, a few days with my sun in Grand Junction and 2 Nights in Ft Collins will Arrive close to noon Thursday
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 10, 2016, 09:44:52 pm
Cpt Dan, those loads sound pretty fast for a Krag. I had a thought about my groups from the Lebel-they were all strung out in a diagonal line like / this. Perhaps from shooting with a tight sling? Will load a few more up and shoot without the sling before I give in and take the Swede. Still not real happy with the groups from the 1892 revolver either. Limited amount of bullets to play with, soooo, may have to use an SAA for the precision part. I really need to start the load development a bit earlier next time.....
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 11, 2016, 01:39:06 am
Well, I must say I am mighty disheartened over a wrench which was chucked into my Muster plans today!  A month ago I faxed in my application to the BATF for the Form 6NIA import permit for my guns and ammunition, and got a nice printed confirmation that the fax successfully went through ... just as I have done for the numerous previous years I have attended.

Since I hadn't yet heard back from them today (which seemed to be an inordinately long
delay) I phoned to check on the application ... only to be told that there is no record in their system of my application this year!

 ???  :o   :-X   :'(

The chap I spoke to on my first call said I would have to fax it in again ... and there would be a very slim chance it might be processed in time.  I immediately did up a further covering letter and drove halfway across town (to the funeral home where I work part time) and faxed it again - got another printed confirmation that the fax was successful ....  Drove back home, and phoned again to ask if they could confirm it been received this time ...  I got put through to the supervisor of that department who, as soon as he heard my question, asked what fax number I had sent it to ... to which I replied that I had sent it to the fax number listed on the BATF website, and in the application instructions ... and that I had triple-checked it to make sure I had it right.  He then told me they had received many reports about faxes supposedly delivered to that number which they in fact never received, and gave a different fax number to use ... saying they had set up a second fax line because of the problems.  (Not sure why the chap I spoke to in the morning couldn't have told me that ... or why they still list the old fax number on the form and website ....  :-\ )

Anyway, drove BACK across town to re-fax everything to the new number .... it took no less than SEVEN  attempts to get the fax to go through to this new number - it would connect and start sending the documents (9 pages total, so rather slow) but crap out by about page 7 or 8 and deliver a "failure" report.  FINALLY got a confirmation that the entire fax SUPPOSEDLY went through ... by then it was too late to phone back as it was after their closing time in West Virginia, so there is no way to even get through to ask if it got there until Monday at the earliest ....  :P

Sounds like the chances are not good that the application will be processed in time ... IF they got it, that is ... since I am told that a totally problem-free application can maybe be approved within two weeks (whereas there remain only only seven business days maximum before I have to cross the border.)

My new cover letter requests that my application be expedited if at all possible - even though I was told by both chaps today they don't 'fast track' applications ... hoping somebody sympathetic might see it and slip it to the top of the pile or something ...

I will be there if that happens, otherwise .... :'(
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on June 11, 2016, 06:07:52 am
What a crock!  And of course, no one there really cares since, being from the government and here to help, they've got other things to do......................hoping things work out.  Otherwise, wear a uniform compatible with a Long Lee.  I happen to have a nice one you're welcome to use.  I also have a very nice early Smith & Wesson .38 you can pair it with.  (They're the same guns I used last year.  I'm shooting a Trapdoor this year.)  If you can bring or send ammo for the Long Lee, great, otherwise I should have plenty, both cast and full power jacketed for long range.  Looking forward to seeing you here!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on June 11, 2016, 07:09:18 am
Are you coming for the Expansion Era match, too?  If so, I can bring the SMLE for that.  (Sorry, you'll just have to get along without a Ross.............I know that would break your heart!)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 11, 2016, 12:10:08 pm
I can bring a Webley Mk V for you, and ammunition.  Come on down, Her Majesty's bureaucrats be damned!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 11, 2016, 12:23:16 pm
I can bring a Webley Mk V for you, and ammunition.  Come on down, Her Majesty's bureaucrats be damned!

Ain't them I think, it's O's ones.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 11, 2016, 12:35:08 pm
Ah, my mistake.  HIS majestys bureaucrats be damned . . .  >:(
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 11, 2016, 12:57:06 pm
Just damn them all, they need it. :P
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 11, 2016, 04:19:12 pm
Damn, damn, damn the bureaucrats,
puling, legislative drones.
Underneath our various flags,
civilize them with a Krag,
and return us our beloved homes!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 11, 2016, 07:32:13 pm
Damn, damn, damn the bureaucrats,
puling, legislative drones.
Underneath our various flags,
civilize them with a Krag,Or in RSJ's case, a Long Lee
and return us our beloved homes!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 11, 2016, 07:36:32 pm
Just had a thought(Danger, Danger!!) Can you bring pre-1898 guns without the paperwork? They're not considered firearms under at least some US laws. But then there's the bigger question- Can you take them back?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 11, 2016, 08:28:52 pm
"underneath our flags and creeds.
civilize them with Krags and Lees"
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 12, 2016, 12:19:40 am
Jerry,

Were you going to post a list of attendees?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 12, 2016, 07:53:07 am
Happy to oblige:

Pitspitr
J Dawg
Neiderlander
Coy Wolf
Good Troy
River City John
Kit Peak
Steve Fowler
Broken Nose Scotty
Dusty Tagalon
Capt. Dan Blodgett
Johnson Barr
Oklahoma Tom
Quickfire
Bird Dog
Cactus Rope
Rattlesnake Jack Robson
Pony Express
Scruffy Skip
Sam Perfye
Capt. Little
Dutch Henry
Silver Creek Slim
Sagebrush Burns
Karol Bullen
Col. Diamond
Allen Ashton
Drydock
Dalton Masterson
Lonnie Meyers

There are a couple that have run into "issues" but these are the list of those registered.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 12, 2016, 06:38:50 pm
Gentlemen:

Your words of encouragement are heartening!

1.  As for bringing only "antique" firearms: yes, I could do that ... and have definitely been considering it as an option ... but am unclear whether I can also bring in the ammunition I would need for them.  If so, I will likely adopt that expedient, since I can certainly bring back anything I take down. (... Canadian firearms laws and restrictions are much less onerous than most Americans realize - almost all of my hassles with attending Musters, or other shooting events in the US, originate with US laws and restrictions.)

HOWEVER, if I can't also bring ammunition for my firearms, the ability to bring in the firearms is of little or no benefit to me ...  :'(

My uniforms are, of course, all "British Empire"(almost exclusively Canadian) but, for a shot at another Brigade Champion award, using borrowed firearms which are not appropriate to the uniform would disqualify me, I understand ...

(I readily admit that I have aspirations to enter the exclusive "maximum of three Brigade Champion Awards" club, with either my Pattern 1863 Canadian Militia Infantry uniform - worn at the last Muster I was able to attend, although I couldn't place with it because I was judging that year - or my brand new Pattern 1863 Canadian Militia Rifles uniform ... for which this would be the debut appearance.)

The Skirmish category I intended to shoot is "Military Single Shot - black powder", for which I would need suitable black powder cartridges - either .577 Snider or .577/.450 Martini-Henry - and also for a suitable  .450/.455/.476 British revolver - extremely unlikely I'd be able to buy, beg, borrow or steal sufficient suitable cartridges for either rifle on that side of the border.  Revolver might be a little less problematic, but still somewhat of a challenge.

2.  Perhaps I could make it a bit easier for myself if I switched to another military category - e.g. Rifleman or Handgunner - I'll have to give that some thought.  So, for example, if Col. Drydock could actually provide enough ammunition to permit me to shoot through the entire Skirmish component, that might be a possible option ....  I could actually bring my own revolver(s) as I do have several which qualify as "antique" on both sides of the border, thus evading the import problems .... (One nice thing about the cutoff year for "antique status" in Canada actually being one year earlier than in the US - i.e. such a firearm must be "pre-1899" up here, rather than "pre-1900" - is that the official written confirmation of "antique" status which I have from the National Firearms Centre run by the RCMP for each such revolver is, of course, accepted as sufficient proof of "antique" status in the US ....)

3.  Neiderlander, my friend, I might well want to take you up on your kind offer regarding the Long Lee and ammunition for at least the Sharpshooter match (and possibly the revolver as well ...)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 12, 2016, 07:09:31 pm
I have 100 Auto Rim cases for the Mk V.  I don't think that would be enough, though you're welcome to use it.  Unfortunately they're all loaded with smokeless.

I believe some of your Canadian revolvers were chambered for .45 Colt?  If so I do have a cubic ton of .45 Schofield BP rounds you're welcome to use.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Cowtown Scout on June 13, 2016, 04:11:37 pm

2.  ....  I could actually bring my own revolver(s) as I do have several which qualify as "antique" on both sides of the border, thus evading the import problems .... (One nice thing about the cutoff year for "antique status" in Canada actually being one year earlier than in the US - i.e. such a firearm must be "pre-1899" up here, rather than "pre-1900" - is that the official written confirmation of "antique" status which I have from the National Firearms Centre run by the RCMP for each such revolver is, of course, accepted as sufficient proof of "antique" status in the US ....)

Hey Jack
Sorry they are giving you the run a round.  In the US the antique designation is any arm made 1998 or before, any arm made 1899 and latter is considered a Firearm.
Scout
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 13, 2016, 08:16:40 pm
Yes .... I got that wrong .... I was out by a year on both: to qualify as an antique in Canada, a firearm must be manufactured pre-1898 ....

 ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 15, 2016, 09:47:34 am
What is the maximum number of rounds per stage for the revolver?  I'm considering shooting my 1860 Army, and carrying two, recapping the second one on the clock.  But, a spare cylinder doesn't do much good.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 15, 2016, 11:26:13 am
What is the maximum number of rounds per stage for the revolver?  I'm considering shooting my 1860 Army, and carrying two, recapping the second one on the clock.  But, a spare cylinder doesn't do much good.
Typically one reload (...or a seconded revolver) will do it. In fact in past years we had a few complaints that participants didn't shoot their BP revolvers enough to justify cleaning them.

This year, however; the "Water Carrier Ravine" will require more than that. (Yes, Drydock I know "we are riflecentric, DAMMIT!" but this stage is an exception) As written you will report to the line with 5 rifle rounds (except Rifleman class). After neutralizing the hostile sniper(s) you will pick up your canteen and start down the ravine engaging the pistol targets as seen and reloading as necessary. In my mind, I'm seeing 10 pistol targets which would mean 10 pistol shots IF you shoot it clean. With our stages that's a mighty big IF. I don't think we've ever had ANYBODY shoot a match clean and very few shoot a clean stage. With Riflemen (and percussion revolver shooters) in mind we are probably going to have to design some way of staging ammunition or more revolvers (battlefield pick ups of course ;) ).

Thanks for bringing this up
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 15, 2016, 11:33:48 am
Thanks Pitspitr.  I'll bring my entire arsenal, just in case!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 15, 2016, 12:24:10 pm
I'll bring my entire arsenal, just in case!
;D Guns and Ammunition are like fun. There's no such thing as too much....  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Jake C on June 15, 2016, 01:52:23 pm
That stage sounds like more fun than a barrel of monkeys. You gentlemen have fun, and good luck!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 15, 2016, 03:53:50 pm
;D Guns and Ammunition are like fun. There's no such thing as too much....  ;)

Agreed, but we have only one mule to make the trip there, and I can't overload it.  My list keeps getting longer and longer as the Muster approaches. 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 15, 2016, 06:27:26 pm
So, maybe we should ask for a round (er, target) count.  How many stages are you planning this year?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 15, 2016, 06:29:40 pm
They didn't have a round count at the Little Big Horn . . .


 ;)

RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 15, 2016, 07:05:39 pm
There will be 4 skirmish runs,  One as shown for the handgun, the rest rifle centric with anywhere between 15 and 25 rifle targets, and 3-7 handgun designated targets.  How many rounds depends on how much you miss . . .

15 round long range,  10 round precision pistol. 

I'd say bring a minimum of 150 rifle rounds, and 50 handgun.  Or 200 of either if shooting a one gun class.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 15, 2016, 11:09:55 pm
They didn't have a round count at the Little Big Horn . . .


 ;)

RCJ

If they had, DO YOU THINK CUSTER WOULD HAVE DONE ANY BETTER?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 16, 2016, 07:45:22 am
Well, he had a "sort of" round count, when a scout told him there were "more Indians than you have bullets".

But Custer never let a little detail; like that stop him!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 16, 2016, 07:47:38 am
Like we always say "Bring more."
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 16, 2016, 09:05:31 am
Well, he had a "sort of" round count, when a scout told him there were "more Indians than you have bullets".

But Custer never let a little detail; like that stop him!

My point, exactly. 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 17, 2016, 03:25:14 pm
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9M9unK0x7oodGx4dENRWE9IUzg (https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9M9unK0x7oodGx4dENRWE9IUzg)
The above is a link to some pre-match information
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 18, 2016, 02:44:42 pm
Managed to get 81 rounds loaded for the Mauser before buggering up my seating die. Have another on order from Graf & Sons, not sure if it'll make it to me by Wednesday.
55 rounds of 8mm Lebel, so I should be good for revolver rounds.

Oh well, I'll shoot what I can . . . and TRY not to miss a lot.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on June 18, 2016, 02:52:16 pm
Just a helpful suggestion R.C.  Maybe adjust your rifle sight before completing the first skirmish!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 18, 2016, 05:01:47 pm
Just a helpful suggestion R.C.  Maybe adjust your rifle sight before completing the first skirmish!

Would make sense. I had it adjusted for 200 yds., but of course the targets at BRR weren't that far away . . .
overshot quite a bit.

Thanks Scotty.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 18, 2016, 06:22:41 pm
If I had a suitable cast bullet, I'd bring you some more 6.5X55 just in case, but I only have the Lee/Mid South "Cruise Missile", and at least in my Swede, it has to be seated very deep, the nose portion is too large for the throat. Will have about 100 rounds of Lebel Revolver ammo, though. I'm thinking I'll use the Swede for the long range work, though. Work situation and other obligations have conspired to prevent successfully working up a decent jacketed bullet load in the Lebel, so I'll probably look for a load I've used before in the Swede.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 18, 2016, 06:54:09 pm
If I had a suitable cast bullet, I'd bring you some more 6.5X55 just in case, but I only have the Lee/Mid South "Cruise Missile", and at least in my Swede, it has to be seated very deep, the nose portion is too large for the throat. Will have about 100 rounds of Lebel Revolver ammo, though. I'm thinking I'll use the Swede for the long range work, though. Work situation and other obligations have conspired to prevent successfully working up a decent jacketed bullet load in the Lebel, so I'll probably look for a load I've used before in the Swede.


Thanks for the consideration, 'tho, Pony.
No worries. I go to see friends, have fun and shoot a little.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 18, 2016, 08:23:20 pm
OK, just so people know, I plan on arriving sometime in the middle of the afternoon Monday, kitchen can be operating 1/2 to an hour after that.

Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 18, 2016, 09:52:47 pm
I'll be up there late monday Del.  Got to do my Tractor requal.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 18, 2016, 10:12:00 pm
Yep, new that, wanna plan on supper about 7:30 or 8:00, not sure what, but can do something, will, I ain't running to town for it, I'm coming to cook, for just me or however many.


Slim will be there sometime Tues Morning.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 18, 2016, 10:16:06 pm
I'm going to fine tune a new dessert on Tuesday, very late 1890's, we may have fatalities, or at least high blood sugar.

 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 19, 2016, 08:54:02 am
Slim will be there sometime Tues Morning.

Tuesday evening or Wednesday morning.

Slim
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on June 19, 2016, 09:01:28 am
Would make sense. I had it adjusted for 200 yds., but of course the targets at BRR weren't that far away . . .
overshot quite a bit.

Thanks Scotty.


RCJ

River City, I was referring to the difference of your shot to hit ratio between the first and second skirmish of the Muster last year, after Drydock suggested adding a little elevation pilgrim! Thought you were going to run out of ammo on the first skirmish, and you didn't miss on the second!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 19, 2016, 10:10:15 am
River City, I was referring to the difference of your shot to hit ratio between the first and second skirmish of the Muster last year, after Drydock suggested adding a little elevation pilgrim! Thought you were going to run out of ammo on the first skirmish, and you didn't miss on the second!

Oh, . . .OK.
But still partially explains The NE Muster fluster. Did not change sights from last setting. Well, that and with new meds my blood sugar dropped.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 20, 2016, 07:30:53 am
Underway, shift colors.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 20, 2016, 09:22:57 am
The Field Marshall is loaded, a shower and then I am off.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on June 20, 2016, 10:10:43 am
Del, admit it, you've been off for years!  (Not criticizing, I am too!)  See you on the hill!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 20, 2016, 10:47:51 pm
I'm on the hill, got here about 3, road I drove on was being constructed.  Fe Drydock meat and taters, he's happy.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Johnson Barr on June 21, 2016, 12:16:54 pm
General Jerry, me brother Bryan and I will be flying the hiway between Taylor and Sargent in the next few days. What is the County Road number that will carry us West to your homestead? -J.Barr
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 21, 2016, 01:46:12 pm
General Jerry, me brother Bryan and I will be flying the hiway between Taylor and Sargent in the next few days. What is the County Road number that will carry us West to your homestead? -J.Barr

Rd. 816 
You will pass it on the way up to Taylor.
Col. Diamond and I will be at Taylor also.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 21, 2016, 02:43:23 pm

Col. Diamond and I will be at Taylor also.


RCJ

This is excellent news!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on June 21, 2016, 07:25:36 pm
Quickfire and I will be headin west tomorrow! Hoping to arrive in time to set up the tent, a couple cots, have a drink, and hit the rack. Bringin the Cadillac to haul old. tired, hot soldiers up out of the canyons. Will need to qualify the Command on the Mule Pro FXT! Anybody drink Scotch? (I don't have a cat to bring)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 21, 2016, 08:37:42 pm
Quickfire and I will be headin west tomorrow! Hoping to arrive in time to set up the tent, a couple cots, have a drink, and hit the rack. Bringin the Cadillac to haul old. tired, hot soldiers up out of the canyons. Will need to qualify the Command on the Mule Pro FXT! Anybody drink Scotch? (I don't have a cat to bring)

I can't think of a soul that drinks Scotch... :o
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Niederlander on June 21, 2016, 09:00:17 pm
If you don't care for Scotch, you can always mix it with Gatorade for a "Gun Shoot Thingy" cocktail!  (We'll explain that when you get here......)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: ira scott on June 21, 2016, 09:32:06 pm
I can't think of a soul that drinks Scotch... :o
Ya all got a cat?  Or just a wiener?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 21, 2016, 09:53:06 pm
On the road. Got over the border with antique shooting irons - 3 Snider-Enfield rifles and 2 Webley revolvers - with ammo! Overnighting in Sheridan, Wyoming. Should arrive in good time on Thursday. See you all then.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 21, 2016, 10:21:04 pm
Ya all got a cat?  Or just a wiener?

Rancho Agua Quieta - home of the world's finest Wiener. We also have a Border Collie, a Musterlander, 2 cats, 3 horses, 1 bull, 10 cows, and a calf. And a bar full of Scotch...
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 21, 2016, 11:30:33 pm
Safely made it to horse tooth reservoir County park ft collins. Will spend tomorrow here and leave about 5:15 am thursday for Sargent (drop trailer at Victoria Springs rec area before heading to the farm and chow
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 22, 2016, 03:42:39 am
Mules are feed, wagon loaded.  Leaving Tejas coastal plains within the hour.
Should make camp near Kansas/Nebraska border around sunset today, and then Taylor/Sargent on Thursday.
Godspeed.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 22, 2016, 09:00:05 am
All packed. Col. Diamond rolls in tonight for supper. We'll leave tomorrow after breakfast and be in camp around 1:30 or so.

(On a side note, the USPS Tracking says the new seating die should be delivered today. Hope so, 'cause then I'll load up another 30 rounds or so for the Mauser.)

General Pisptr, I'm bringing that 1860's leather trunk for Ft. Hartsuff that we talked about. Also, Ned, bringing orange water cooler and three .303 brass cases.
And Delmonico, found a little something for you that I think you'll like.

And don't forget those Door Prizes!




RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 22, 2016, 11:16:06 am
If you don't care for Scotch, you can always mix it with Gatorade for a "Gun Shoot Thingy" cocktail!  (We'll explain that when you get here......)

Green Gatorade is on hand for Scotch drinkers.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Johnson Barr on June 22, 2016, 12:24:27 pm
RCJ, have you been de-liced since Evansville or is Diamond still scratchin'?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 22, 2016, 12:56:45 pm
RCJ, have you been de-liced since Evansville or is Diamond still scratchin'?

I will only admit to being a lousy shot.

If'n Diamond is that susceptible to the power of suggestion, I'd better start jinxing him in the car on the way up.

"I've never seen you squint so much. Are you having trouble with your eyes?"
"You seem to be nervous. Worried you won't shoot well at the Muster?"
"Are you sure you brought the best rifle and right ammunition?"



RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 22, 2016, 01:17:44 pm
Green Gatorade is on hand for Scotch drinkers.

You, you, HEATHEN... :o
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 22, 2016, 01:19:06 pm
I will only admit to being a lousy shot.

If'n Diamond is that susceptible to the power of suggestion, I'd better start jinxing him in the car on the way up.

"I've never seen you squint so much. Are you having trouble with your eyes?"
"You seem to be nervous. Worried you won't shoot well at the Muster?"
"Are you sure you brought the best rifle and right ammunition?"



RCJ

Buahahahaha
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 22, 2016, 01:19:59 pm
Oh crap!  Is it time already???  I better get my gear together pronto
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on June 22, 2016, 09:55:42 pm




     Wow, that list has a great crew showing up for this Grand Muster! I wish I could make it, but I'm scheduled for a heart catheterization on the 27th. Nuclear stress test showed some potential blockage, and a long trip like this is probably a bit much for me right now.

   I'll probably get another period incorrect item added to the inside of one of my coronary arteries. So at least I got a good excuse-should keep me from attaining deserter status! :D




Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 22, 2016, 10:26:17 pm
Come new years will be 10 years since I got roto rooted and a culvert installed in the circumflex artery.
Be doing great ever since.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 22, 2016, 10:29:13 pm
We'll raise a glass to ya, Sir Charles. Mind your health as long as you've got it.

Perhaps next year.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: 1961MJS on June 23, 2016, 01:12:26 pm
Howdy all
I PLANNED to be there this year, but am stuck at work.  Still working
Up a load for the .45-70 sharps anyway.  Y'all have a great time.
Mike
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on June 26, 2016, 08:30:48 am






We'll raise a glass to ya, Sir Charles. Mind your health as long as you've got it.

Perhaps next year.


RCJ



    Thanks Sir. I hope you guys have a great time.







Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Mustang Gregg on June 26, 2016, 04:36:45 pm
We got as far a Kearney for the American Legion Department meeting, but I was not driver-in-command and I could not get up to Sargent.
Post pictures, please.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 26, 2016, 05:21:46 pm
1st Sgt Tom Rhodes and his Buffaler scout Barr had a great time. Thanks for hosting.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 26, 2016, 06:20:21 pm
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/RiverCityJohn/GAF%20Muster%2062516%205_zps1cbiucgo.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/RiverCityJohn/media/GAF%20Muster%2062516%205_zps1cbiucgo.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/RiverCityJohn/GAF%20Muster%2062516%201_zps3ujaudzj.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/RiverCityJohn/media/GAF%20Muster%2062516%201_zps3ujaudzj.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/RiverCityJohn/GAF%20Muster%2062516%204_zpsig14qr8l.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/RiverCityJohn/media/GAF%20Muster%2062516%204_zpsig14qr8l.jpg.html)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o26/RiverCityJohn/GAF%20Muster%2062516%203_zpsirm1uuga.jpg) (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/RiverCityJohn/media/GAF%20Muster%2062516%203_zpsirm1uuga.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 26, 2016, 08:35:07 pm
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9M9unK0x7ooYjZYN1ZTLVRJV2c
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Charles Isaac on June 27, 2016, 02:25:09 pm



   
Come new years will be 10 years since I got roto rooted and a culvert installed in the circumflex artery.
Be doing great ever since.


     That's great Capt. Dan!  Turns out all 3 of  my stents were clear. Got one small clogged artery that is inaccessible for a stent but we already knew about that and it's not a vital one anyways.



    Everyone looks great in the photos-I hope it was as much fun as it looked! :D


   
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 27, 2016, 03:13:51 pm
I arrived home about 1:30 pm today, had a minor problem with the Field Marshall, but he limped on in.  Going through stuff now.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on June 27, 2016, 04:56:56 pm
Made it to Dodge City today. So glad I came to the muster. Matches were fantastic, meeting the the folks was even more so. Everyone made a rookie feel welcome. Chow was great, the down side is I probably gained 5 pounds!!!

If anyone out there has ever thought about attending, I heartily recommend you do so. Shooting games a simulated combat course is a hoot!!

Many thanks to all that made the muster possible. Also many thans for making Anne, her friend Shirley and the dogs welcome as well.

Hope to make 2017 and if not certainly 2018.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 27, 2016, 05:44:48 pm
Give me a few days to get the full results and my report together. I'll post them in the After Action Reports child board.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 27, 2016, 06:26:59 pm
Mary and I stayed outside of OKC last night.  We made it back to the Tejas Coastal Plain around 1530 today.  Wagon unpacked, and brass is tumbling now.  Processed some photographs.  I'll post a few and a link to the rest in short order.

I want to close the post by saying a BIG thank you!  The event was very well laid out, and executed with military precision!  I think what made the most impression on me was the camaraderie...I'm making plans for next year already!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 27, 2016, 08:34:14 pm
I doubt there is another shoot like it. 
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 27, 2016, 08:37:26 pm
Oh, from Scruffy Skippy.  

I edited the raw ones.

For the group below:
Front Center: Brig. Genl. Pitspitr; Second Row, L to R Col. Drydock, Col. Dusty Tagalon, Lt. Col. Ned Neiderlander, Lt. Col Montgomery Little, Third Row L to R; Col. Sagebrush Burns, Lt. Col. Kit Peak Kid, Lt. Col. Pony Express, Col. Rattlesnake Jack Robson Third Row L to R. 1st Sgt. Dutch Al, Capt. Dan Blodgett, 1st Sgt Tom Rhoades, Col. Diamond, Capt. Bat Masterson Fourth Row L to R; Lt. Col. Silver Creek Slim, Capt. River City John, Johnson Barr, Cpl. Broken Nose Scotty,  Sgt. Dutch Henry, Sgt J Dawg. Fourth Row L to R; Good Troy, Scruffy Skippy, Trinity Iron Wrangler, Capt. Delmonico, Quickfire Hombre, Cactus Rope.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Good Troy on June 27, 2016, 09:24:56 pm
A few pictures from the Grand Muster...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/62787446@N07/albums/72157667576790303
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on June 27, 2016, 11:11:39 pm
Made it home finally, Muster was great, the travelling was not so great this year. The not-so-mighty Blazer decided Lincoln was as far as it was going, remains there awaiting some unknown repairs. Many thanks to Drydock for the ride home. Which reminds me, I've got your sleeping pad, and I think you've got my "tack hammer" (3 lb blacksmith hammer) I was using for driving tent pegs, and there's another book so far un-accounted for, might still be packed somewhere. Time now for some sleep, and off to work :'( tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Major 2 on June 27, 2016, 11:43:56 pm
Recognized a few pards, some I know (shot with ) other by there photo's
could someone put handles on the groups shot on the porch , Ladies & Gents ?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 28, 2016, 01:12:04 am
Made it back to the Texas farm at 2130. It was a great time once again. Special shout out to Ira Scott, who really cleaned house at the muster. I am proud of you, buddy!
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on June 28, 2016, 09:27:34 am
Great time!  Best muster yet!  Thanks to all for the cooperation,  allready thinking about next year.

Oh, and the SCOTS WHISKY was very good indeed.  Missed the scotch candy though . . .
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on June 28, 2016, 10:40:25 am
Great time!  Best muster yet!  Thanks to all for the cooperation,  allready thinking about next year.

Oh, and the SCOTS WHISKY was very good indeed.  Missed the scotch candy though . . .

Bonus score for leaving out the "e" when referring to Scts Whisky, or Scotch. Och, aye lad.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on June 28, 2016, 11:29:45 am
Now I know where all the green Gatorade went. ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on June 29, 2016, 06:15:25 am
If anyone wants to send the folks at Kawasaki a note of thanks for the use of the Mule here are the addresses:

NKawamura@lcn.kmmfg.com

TFurman@lcn.kmmfg.com
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 29, 2016, 11:47:39 pm
Made it back to Medicine Hat north of the Medicine Line yesterday afternoon.  Busy unpacking and such, and now have to prepare for an expedition with my 1885 Artillery detachment to Fort Macleod (location of the first NWMP post, 1874) bright and early on Friday (July 1 - Canada Day).  

Taken last year at Fort Macleod -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Artillery/2015_Canada%20Day_Fort%20Macleod_med_zpsf6c8qqaq.jpg)

(Nothing to do with GAF Muster, I know ... just showing what my next deployment will be ... ;) )
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on June 30, 2016, 01:01:26 am
Is that a 10# Parrot?




RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 30, 2016, 04:32:07 pm
Is that a 10# Parrot?

Good eye, RCJ!  Actually it is a 3/4 scale 10# Parrott Rifle tube, produced by Hern Iron Works in Coeur d'Alene, ID (http://hernironworks.com/ (http://hernironworks.com/)) which we mounted on our own carriage .... closest we could get in size and general configuration to a British 9 Pounder Rifled Muzzle Loading Gun tube, which is what our namesakes actually had in the field during the 1885 North West Rebellion -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Artillery/9%20pounder_zpsfffkador.jpg)

Unfortunately, nobody reproduces the 9-pounder barrel .... The most noticeable difference in the barrel profiles is that the reinforced breech of the Parrott does not extend very far forward - ending behind the trunions - whereas on the British 9-pounder tube the reinforce extends ahead of the trunions. We have plans to build up the reinforced section of this barrel (with fiberglass or the like) to more closely resemble the profile of the 9-pounder, then re-paint ...   ;D

Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Johnson Barr on July 01, 2016, 12:21:52 pm
General Jerry, is your pitspitr@nctc.net email account still active? -J.Barr
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Jake C on July 01, 2016, 03:47:48 pm
Good eye, RCJ!  Actually it is a 3/4 scale 10# Parrott Rifle tube, produced by Hern Iron Works in Coeur d'Alene, ID (http://hernironworks.com/ (http://hernironworks.com/)) which we mounted on our own carriage .... closest we could get in size and general configuration to a British 9 Pounder Rifled Muzzle Loading Gun tube, which is what our namesakes actually had in the field during the 1885 North West Rebellion -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Artillery/9%20pounder_zpsfffkador.jpg)

Unfortunately, nobody reproduces the 9-pounder barrel .... The most noticeable difference in the barrel profiles is that the reinforced breech of the Parrott does not extend very far forward - ending behind the trunions - whereas on the British 9-pounder tube the reinforce extends ahead of the trunions. We have plans to build up the reinforced section of this barrel (with fiberglass or the like) to more closely resemble the profile of the 9-pounder, then re-paint ...   ;D



Okay, I have to say, that cannon is as cool as can be. How much powder does it use? Naturally I'm assuming you don't fire solid shot out of but what would it shoot?
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: OklaTom on July 01, 2016, 04:08:52 pm
General Jerry, is your pitspitr@nctc.net email account still active? -J.Barr

I also have potspitr@gmail.com. But I have not gotten a response from that address either...
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on July 02, 2016, 01:41:44 pm
Okay, I have to say, that cannon is as cool as can be. How much powder does it use? Naturally I'm assuming you don't fire solid shot out of but what would it shoot?
 
So far, we have only used that one for "blank" firing in demonstrations such as seen in the first photo, for which we normally use a 3 ounce charge ... It is a 2 1/4 inch bore, cast iron but the tube is cast around a high-pressure steel liner (smoothbore) so it presumably could be used to fire projectiles - we just haven't tried that (yet).

Our other gun is a 1/2 scale version of the British 9-pounder RML gun, made about 30 years ago by an engineer - its barrel is also smoothbore (2") but all steel, and the gun is roughly the overall size of an original 6-pounder.  We do use that one to fire projectiles on occasion, using 2" steel round stock cut off in 2" lengths - not the most aerodynamic projectile, but it will punch right through a vehicle body at 150 yards or so! This is the smaller gun -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Artillery/MH%20Stmpede%202014_regimental%20pose%20_sm_zpsadeyiswf.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on July 02, 2016, 02:08:41 pm
R J, either you're very tall, or your comrades are boy scouts in disguise.  ;D

My vote is for very tall.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on July 02, 2016, 07:34:51 pm
My vote is for very tall.

Your vote would be correct, ST. I'm about 6'1" and he's got me beat by a couple inches, at least.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on July 03, 2016, 04:01:29 pm
6' 4" .... ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on July 03, 2016, 04:21:15 pm
I'm just a 6' midget.  ;D

But I get to be 6' 3" with my cowboy boots on.  8)
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on July 03, 2016, 11:39:27 pm
I prefer a low walking heel, so I only get to be about 6' 5" or so ... ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Drydock on July 03, 2016, 11:43:22 pm
Then he puts on one of them bearskin hats, an ends up around 8' or so . . .
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on July 04, 2016, 12:00:59 am
Nah ... bearskin is too hot and heavy ... and is what's worn by those poofty English Guards chaps ... :P ... what you're thinking of is the glorious Highland Feather Bonnet ...  ;D -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Scottish/e62deefa-d64b-4227-b900-9db6e9208547_zpsdff7rgha.jpg)

Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on July 04, 2016, 07:57:46 pm
Wonder how that would fare in a light Nebraska wind, never did find my onion that blew off my table and into the ravine.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: River City John on July 04, 2016, 08:10:55 pm
Nah ... bearskin is too hot and heavy ... and is what's worn by those poofty English Guards chaps ... :P ... what you're thinking of is the glorious Highland Feather Bonnet ...  ;D -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Scottish/e62deefa-d64b-4227-b900-9db6e9208547_zpsdff7rgha.jpg)

The amazing thing is the amount of training it takes to make that ostrich stay perched up on his head without moving.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Bat 2919 on July 04, 2016, 10:44:19 pm
Wonder how that would fare in a light Nebraska wind, never did find my onion that blew off my table and into the ravine.


Del,

This begs qualification.  When I lived in Wyoming they used a logging chain as a wind vane.  Until the chain began to indicate wind direction it didn't even qualify as a light wind.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Quick Fire on July 05, 2016, 06:18:14 am
As my dear departed pappy used to say, "The first liar don't stand a chance". ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Pitspitr on July 05, 2016, 07:26:56 am
General Jerry, is your pitspitr@nctc.net email account still active? -J.Barr
I also have pitspitr@gmail.com. But I have not gotten a response from that address either...
Sorry guys. I should have responded sooner if only to say that I'm checking into your comments and will get back to you. I've been crazy busy the last week, then I came down with some summer bug that makes me want to sleep all the time. I don't quite have everything cleaned up off my backlogged schedule, but I am making progress. I WILL get back to you. In the mean time keep the comments coming. This is how the Grand Muster gets better.

pitspitr@gmail is correct.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: Delmonico on July 05, 2016, 10:11:15 am
Except Wed I did really loose the onion and the winds according to NOAA was about 45 mph.
Title: Re: 2016 Grand Muster...140th Anniversary of the Battle of Little Bighorn
Post by: pony express on July 06, 2016, 06:16:35 pm
Except Wed I did really loose the onion and the winds according to NOAA was about 45 mph.

At least we didn't have to try and keep the tarp from flying away in the wind this time.