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Title: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 07, 2014, 04:58:46 am
Hopefully this is early enough that everybody can put in for time off now and get it.

I will be hosting the 2015 Grand Muster, June 26th, 27th & 28th, in my pasture.  

This Muster will be open to anyone in the GAF. If not currently a member I can help you register. (Membership in the GAF is free and easy) By using Google Earth and going to  41°40'16.24"N Latitude and  99°19'42.54"W Longitude you can see the Grand Muster site. Registration forms will be available on the dispatches page of the Grand Army's Web site. Particpation will be limited to 35 shooters. Registration is $75,  an extra Sat. eve. banquet ticked is $15. Meals will be available on site from Delmonico. Those wishing to attend but not compete may do so without registration fee, but be sure to pay the meal fee if you plan to eat with us.

The planned activities include: a 4 stage GAF steel target main match, a 200 yd paper target long range match and a GAF Expansion Era Match. While 4 stages for the main match doesn't sound like much these four stages will be of the skirmish format and will feature about 20 knock down targets per stage. Round counts will be dependent on the number of times the shooter needs to shoot at each target to get it to fall. 100 rounds at least would be a good plan. This is a match that participants say truly needs to be experienced to be fully appreciated.

Shooters will be able to sight in their rifles on Thursday and Friday afternoon and evening. When the actual long range match is held on Saturday it will be shot from the shooters choice of positions from the ground.

This muster will be a primative camping event. We will have a tent city and have tentage for about 10 individuals if you don't have your own contact me, I can help. We should be easily able to get photos without anything modern in them. We should have plenty of time to sit around the campfire and visit.

The average high temperature in this area on June 27th is 84 degrees

I've attached a FAQ sheet and a suggested equipment list and registration form below.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Mustang Gregg on July 07, 2014, 04:09:26 pm
We'll try to make it next year.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 08, 2014, 08:50:50 pm
I bought a new target for it yesterday!  :o
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 09, 2014, 09:51:17 am
So far since the match I've purchased a trauma kit (God forbid we ever need it), and a new target. I've planned a new stage location for a stage that will include elements of all three of  the stages, the fort stage, the Moro stage and the runner stage. We also have improvements planned for the camp site. Additionally, I've already done some road work to improve access to the canyons and by the end of the month I expect to have the cabin finished and another little shed moved up to the camp site. Ned and I have also been making notes so that we remember all the little tweaks we want to implement next year to help with time management on the stages.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Gripmaker on July 09, 2014, 10:19:41 pm
Col.,  Glad to hear that you are again hosting the Grand Muster at your place. Had a great time this year and would be amenable to having it there every year. Have already started working up loads for long range with 6.5 Swede. I guess that means I plan to be there. Need to clarify load specs for long range. Will we be using military loadings or must we work with the 1400 fps criteria? Wouldn't even mind spending a few days at the sight some other time, if that is acceptable.  December would be great but can't get wife away from Florida at that time. Oh, well!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 10, 2014, 06:17:42 am
We're going to be discussing the distance. Right now we have an awfully lot of no scores, plus 300 yds makes the use of spotting scopes to sight in difficult, ( I don't have a scope that's strong enough) and we lose a lot of time running back and forth trying to figure out where we're hitting. I really don't want to shorten it to 100 though, because that doesn't seem like "long" range to me.

That being said, the long range match is on paper so the jacket and speed limits need not apply. The load I used in my Krag was a jacketed 220 gr. RN bullet going nearly 2100 ft/sec. It was as close to the original loading as I could get.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on July 13, 2014, 09:37:22 am
Specific thoughts on this years Muster for next year 2015 Muster:
I really liked the idea of having the two Main match stages back to back, feeding off that common rallying area. What I would like to have though, is perhaps a portable Satellite station, additional rifle racks and seating, and one of the big orange water coolers placed there.
I know that ungodly steep hill is an obstacle, but I propose for next year:

I will cover the cost for a porta potty down in that common area. It could even be left on the transport trailer if possible.
My big orange cooler went unused this year. I'll earmark it specifically for that use.
I had two of those folding chairs that went unused, I'll put them down there to add to other seating.
And finally, fellas, after multiple years of fighting with that awning, setting and keeping it upright on the hill, I say set it up down in that gully area out of the wind as shade for the troops. After all, we spend the largest portion of time for this event there and would be better use for it.

And, not to add more work for poor Delmonico, for that midday meal load the three or four dutch ovens in the back of his Rolling Eggplant and serve rations in the field. Even our mess kits could be pre-loaded in the front of his pickup bed that morning after breakfast clean up so we wouldn't have to carry 'em down with our kit.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on July 13, 2014, 01:16:33 pm
+1  on the cooler at the shooting area! The tarp for shade would be good too, there's not much shade to be found in that one valley, but the one where we shoot EOE does have a little. But I don't know about that last one, John....depending on what is in those dutch ovens, might be more of it sloshing around the bed of the truck than inside the ovens by the time it gets down there. I think what we need to do is just set a lunch break time, and stick to it. And I kind of liked what we did in the Zoot match for organization, too. Just put your rifles in the rack and shoot in the order you stacked them.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on July 13, 2014, 08:04:45 pm
Lunch can be worked out however, I'm flexible, Jerry and I did some talking about it, but we have a while.   

I think we need one large ice chest with nothing in it but bags of ice to be grabbed as needed by what ever ice chest or jug needs them, I'm going to watch the fall sales and see what I can find in a month or so in the way of a larger one, for food stuffs the 3 smallers work better than one large one.   
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on July 13, 2014, 09:26:18 pm
Del, I have a pretty large one, I just have stuff in it while we're travelling. All the "travelling food" goes in the fridge wherever we happen to stay, and the cooler just sits, so we can use it for that. Only reason I carry such a big one is so we can load it full at the Asian stores in KC, take home a bunch of the stuff that's not available at home.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 16, 2014, 06:03:30 am
I started cutting firewood last night. I have 3 ash trees that died up there in the last several months and they're close to the "kitchen" so figured I'd get a jump on next year's projects.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on October 08, 2014, 08:57:02 am
Exciting news! see this thread: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,53455.new.html#new (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,53455.new.html#new)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on October 15, 2014, 01:45:19 pm
We'll try to make it next year.
You'd better be to do the paperwork!  :o  ;)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on October 15, 2014, 01:49:16 pm

I will cover the cost for a porta potty down in that common area.
I think I have 3 of them lined up for next year

And finally, fellas, after multiple years of fighting with that awning, setting and keeping it upright on the hill, I say set it up down in that gully area out of the wind as shade for the troops. After all, we spend the largest portion of time for this event there and would be better use for it.
I shoulda thought of that!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Dutch Al on January 29, 2015, 09:09:01 am
Hello Pitspitr

Will there also be four stages in the Expansion Era Match?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on January 29, 2015, 10:13:00 am
No, the Expansion Era Match is 1 looong stage.
The stages at this GAF match are long enough that participants will shoot almost as much ammunition in 4-5 stages as you would in 10 CAS stages.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on January 30, 2015, 05:36:46 pm
 ;D  As always, the best part of the Muster is Sea Stories around the fire.  BTW, I do believe we hold the record for Distance to Nearest International Body of Salt Water while engaged in the telling of Sea Stories . . .

D->NIBSW+SS= ??? ::)

We were gonna have an award for Best Bullsh . . . ah, Sea Story, but Ned retired that the first year with the Baby Ducks . . .
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on January 31, 2015, 02:53:33 pm

Can't wait for the camp fire talks...

Maj SH Long


(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0433.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0433.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on January 31, 2015, 06:21:45 pm
Yes, the campfire talks, stories, etc. tend to be excellent!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on January 31, 2015, 06:34:26 pm
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0013.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0013.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on January 31, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0017.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0017.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on January 31, 2015, 06:36:24 pm
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0021.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0021.jpg.html)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on January 31, 2015, 08:03:05 pm
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0017.jpg

"An' then the Chaplain said . . ."

Love that shot of Stu with his arms folded while the Sailor and Marine go at it!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: LT Col Long on February 01, 2015, 12:38:36 pm

Question; Is it ok to shoot my 45/70 carbine and Colt SA 45 in the "Expansion Match?

I am not taking any electrical work 2 weeks prior to this year's event!  None!

I have a 1911, but it and I do not get along.  Revolvers and me, just fine.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on February 01, 2015, 01:23:28 pm
I'll let the "powers that be" answer as to the Trapdoor, but your SAA could be used, I'm sure.

Me and my 1911 don't get along all that well, either. Since I've started going to Musters, now at least I've had an excuse to make myself shoot it once a year!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on February 01, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
If you don't mind shooting against 03 Springfields, sure you can do that.  I suspect a good hand with a single shot would still be fairly competitive in a Skirmish setting.  Sure you don't have a .30-30 laying about?

I'd probably reccomend shooting in the rifle only class, no handgun, just concentrate on working that Trapdoor.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on February 02, 2015, 07:14:13 am
My carbine is not a trap-door.  It is a repro  Sharps falling block, single shot.  So, can that be used in the expansion match?

Well, you can but it'd be even slower than a trapdoor. If you want' you can borrow my 1903 or my Krag. If you have the 1911 you could shoot handgunner with just it or do you have a DA Colt or Smith?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on February 02, 2015, 07:26:52 am
Please reserve my crib (er coop).
Coop Reserved and it's come along nicely since you were last here. You won't even have to bring your own cot

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/910/UyqOPO.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/paUyqOPOj)

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Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on February 02, 2015, 10:55:17 pm
Looking good there, did you find some vintage newspapers to paper it with?

That bunk bed looks just right for any former sailors that might be in attendance. Well, maybe it's a bit more roomy than where they bunked at sea....
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on February 03, 2015, 06:13:40 am
Looking good there, did you find some vintage newspapers to paper it with?
If by "vintage" you mean last summer and fall.  ;) They'll be vintage someday. In the mean time there are some faces on some of it they GAF folks will recognize.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on February 03, 2015, 09:39:28 am
What did you do?  Use the left over copies of the Chief with the article about last years Grand Muster?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on February 03, 2015, 10:03:41 am
What did you do?  Use the left over copies of the Chief with the article about last years Grand Muster?
8)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on February 15, 2015, 05:43:13 pm
Moved some more storage to Camp Scout.

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Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on March 08, 2015, 10:58:28 pm
For what it may be worth, I have posted a blurb about GAF and the 2015 Grand National  Muster on the British Militaria Forums site, in its "Historical Shooting, Competition, and Outings' section -

http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/18739/master/1/ (http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/topic/18739/master/1/)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 09, 2015, 09:59:49 am
Awesome RJR. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bull Schmitt on March 09, 2015, 03:21:22 pm
The registration form for the2015 Grand Muster is available on the "Dispatches" page of the GAF web site.

Col Bull
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Lord Eoin MacKenzie on March 09, 2015, 05:17:03 pm
An Equipment question,  What size "A" tents are y'all using for a single person? with a cot.   I am using up bonus money for equipment, for future events.   I have a round tent, available, made from a 9 ft. umbella shade, Khaki top. etc.  Or maybe a Brit wstyle pyramid?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on March 09, 2015, 06:52:28 pm
This is the one I use   http://www.fcsutler.com/fccanvas.asp     the 9' long 7' tall version.   Plenty of room for myself and all my gear, a cot goes neatly across the back, leaving about 7 feet for living space as it where.  Folds up into roughly 3'x3'x6" fitting between the wheel wells in my Dodge Challengers trunk.

I prop it up with segmented wood roundstock and PVC pipe, all cut to fit in the same trunk, 4' Maximum.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: CPL Jayhawker Jake on March 12, 2015, 07:18:18 pm
Couple stupid newbie questions (sorry):

1. Are checks for registration costs made payable to Mr. Davenport?

2. Are Meal tickets the same as the banquet tickets, are initial banquet tickets included in the standard registration fee, or should I buy one of each?  It says "extra banquet ticket $15.00".  Got me all kinds of confused.  Just need to know how much I need to write the check for!

Sorry again for the dumb questions.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 12, 2015, 08:45:35 pm
Couple stupid newbie questions (sorry):
The only stupid questions are the ones you didn't ask

1. Are checks for registration costs made payable to Mr. Davenport?
Either that or the GAF Either one will work

2. Are Meal tickets the same as the banquet tickets, are initial banquet tickets included in the standard registration fee, or should I buy one of each?  It says "extra banquet ticket $15.00".  Got me all kinds of confused.  Just need to know how much I need to write the check for!
The extra banquet ticket is, for instance, if you brought your wife or son and they weren't a registered shooter. The meal tickets are for the number of meals you want to eat on site. We have a cook (Delmonico) who cooks for us but those meals aren't included in the registration fee. The only meal that IS included is the Saturday evening banquet. I hope this is clear. if it isn't ask again.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on March 13, 2015, 11:37:02 pm
I just saw that Mr Buck and Mr. Smith are venturing up from Texas for the Muster, and I've gotten affirmation on several of the KVC people making the trip.

I dare say this is going to be one of the larger gatherings we've had in some time.

I am pumped!


Would it be possible to arrange a tour of Ft. Hartsuff?


RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 14, 2015, 05:37:23 am
I just saw that Mr Buck and Mr. Smith are venturing up from Texas for the Muster, and I've gotten affirmation on several of the KVC people making the trip.
I dare say this is going to be one of the larger gatherings we've had in some time.
I am pumped!
Would it be possible to arrange a tour of Ft. Hartsuff?
RCJ
I'm not sure but what it's going to be the largest yet. Must be that everybody wants a chance on that new revolver.

Absolutely we can tour Ft. H. I even know a tour guide. ::) 8)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Johnson Barr on March 14, 2015, 09:23:20 am
Jerry has Del set a serving schedule for meals at the Muster site? Brother Buck and I are trying figure out how many meal tickets to purchase for the event.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on March 14, 2015, 10:38:20 am
I will be there ready to fix things before anyone else shows up and after they leave.   

Planning on being there from late afternoon Tue to about noon on Mon.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 15, 2015, 09:47:38 am
For those of you who haven't been here before, there's a world class Indian War Museum within about 40 miles at Fort Hartsuff. Hopefully Sunday late afternoon or Monday we'll be able to work in a trip over there.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on March 15, 2015, 11:06:14 am
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Just ran across this pic and like to share.


Stu, you are missed. I know you'll be at Muster 2015 in spirit.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on March 15, 2015, 05:33:38 pm
I'm sure he will be.


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Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: OklaTom on March 26, 2015, 12:44:57 pm
Sorry it's been a few days since I've been active. I've been a little under the weather.
We've had several new registrations show up in the last week. We now have more officially registered shooters than what we used to have for the Dept. of the MO muster I hosted. It's really starting to look like the muster will be full for the first time ever, anywhere.

Pitspitr, I am excited about this my first muster.  I don't really know what to expect, other than a fun time and experiencing DelMonico's fabled cooking.  I'm certain to make some mistakes, but I have a driving force of friends that got me juiced into going, even though it is right on the heels of the NCOWS National Shoot.  Gonna log some miles on the buckboard that month...
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Johnson Barr on March 26, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
Sounds like it was a fun run. Nothing quite as fast as a good ol prairie fire. Five years back I stepped out of a twelve year career as a Wildland Firefighter. Worked for both DOA and DOI as a paid arsonist. Mitigation was always more fun than suppression. But, then I always did color in the boxes. Maybe I should bring my drip torch and black-line your property Jerry.
  On a second note; I'm trying to work up some .30-40 loads for Muster. Can you give me an idea what distances the rifle targets will be placed. And also a recommended bullet weight capable of target knock down.    
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on March 26, 2015, 01:43:44 pm
Go thru the "Care and Feeding of the Krag" thread.  You will find load data and target video.  Any bullet weight between 180 to 220 will work fine at anything between 1000 and 1500 FPS.  You may also want no more than 30 rounds of a Milspec load for the long range portion, utilizing Armor grade targets at 100 to 300 yards.  That data is in the thread as well.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on March 26, 2015, 08:11:47 pm
Ok, I I told Jerry tonight I have a proper bugler with proper uniform to come up and play taps for Stu.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 27, 2015, 12:57:37 pm
JB
We had a prescribed burn a year ago where we burned almost the entire pasture. I enjoyed it a lot more because we had a good crew that was pretty confident that the fire wasn't going to go someplace it wasn't supposed to...and it didn't. With this prairie fire I was plenty worried that it would get into my shelter belt or the shooting facilities or deer blind or all of the above.

Most rifle targets in the main match are 25-50 yds with a few out to about 100. Long Range Rifle as Drydock said will be 100-300 on armor so full power jacketed bullets are fine for it. I use the same load as Drydock for the long range. For the main match I use a 220 grain lead bullet from Scruffy Skippy over 13 Gr. Trailboss.

It's a funny deal 13 grains of Trailboss seems to work pretty well for 30-40, 30-06, 50-70 and 45-70 which is really nice because that way I don't have to reset the powder measure each time I change calibers.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Johnson Barr on March 28, 2015, 12:45:07 pm
Thanks for the load info. Hope to work up something to work in my Winchester '95 Carbine. I noticed in your u-tube 'staring' video that the junipers (aka cedars) had surface fire scorch on their lower limbs. Here at my end of the prairie the cedars are actually Ashe junipers; hatefully evasive species. When they become a mono-culture it's like fields of open 5 gallon buckets of gasoline just waiting. Ten or so years ago here in Texas we had almost a million acres burn in a 36 hour period. My assigned fire, Buckle L Two, went just over 42,000 acres in 24 hrs. It was the 'little fire'. There was no lay down even past mid-night. We tried setting back fire in twenty mile an hour winds off a county road with no success and fortunately no bonus acres on the wrong side of the fireline. Shortly after dawn a front came through, the winds shifted and the flame front blew back into the black. Just another 38 hour extended initial attack. The things I do to cure boredom, go figure.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on March 31, 2015, 09:33:53 pm
What do you think, Delmonico, Is this enough?
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Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on March 31, 2015, 10:21:13 pm
Should be. ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: OklaTom on April 19, 2015, 09:49:12 pm
So I sent an email to a pal, but have not heard back.  On the 200 yard long range, do we have to use the battle rifle that goes with our personae, or can we use any appropriately period rifle?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on April 19, 2015, 10:35:56 pm
You could use a different rifle, as long as it fits in the same category, for instance, changing military repeater for a different military repeater. But, for instance, a 12 pound Sharps buffalo rifle couldn't be substituted for a trapdoor carbine. One year I used a Swede Mauser for the long range instead of the Lebel I used for the rest of the match(didn't have enough brass for the Lebel), no problem, other than maybe some good natured "gamer" comment for using the Swede.......
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: OklaTom on April 19, 2015, 10:44:26 pm
So I'll be more specific. During the main match, I would be using the standard Cavalry Trapdoor Carbine, 45-70 Govt. For the long range, can I use an 1862 Peabody replica?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on April 20, 2015, 03:34:17 am
Yes, you may use any period appropriate rifle for the long range.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on April 20, 2015, 10:50:06 am
Is it supposed to be in the same class, or does it just need to be from the same period?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on April 20, 2015, 12:24:47 pm
If you choose to compete for the Brigade Championship and you shoot in more than one class you must announce prior to the start which class you will be scored in for the BC competition. If you are competing for the BC you must shoot in the same class the whole way through. If competing for the BC you could conceivably shoot a trapdoor in the main match and a military rolling block in the long range as long as they were both BP or both Smokeless. What you can't do and still compete for the BC is shoot BP Trapdoor in the long range and the Krag in the main match or something like that. If you don't care about competing for the BC it doesn't matter what you shoot in each event. 
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on April 20, 2015, 04:39:00 pm
Basicly, if you care about the BC, then the LR rifle should be appropriate to the era, and uniform you wear. 
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on April 20, 2015, 07:05:35 pm
You're good!.  Look forward to seeing your Peabody.

BC is Brigade Champion.  Iron Trooper is the Medal Awarded to the BC. 
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on May 14, 2015, 09:34:26 pm
So Far we have the following categories registered:

Military Singleshot (BP and Smokeless)

Smokeless Military Repeater

Smokeless Handgunner

Smokeless Rifleman

Smokeless Militia

Scout

We have some people who I know plan to attend but from whom I have not received a registration, so it looks as though this will be our biggest Muster ever as it appears we will have between 32 and 35 in attendance.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on May 15, 2015, 08:54:27 pm
OK, now I have 2 versions of the Pee chart, the original military one:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Safety/Urine_Chart_zpsd7f16de5.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/Safety/Urine_Chart_zpsd7f16de5.jpg.html)

Or the new version of it:


(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Safety/10846166_923845294303732_7036137204120762114_n_zpsgtomkyf1.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/Safety/10846166_923845294303732_7036137204120762114_n_zpsgtomkyf1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on May 16, 2015, 03:19:23 pm
Is there any shooting planned for Sunday?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on May 16, 2015, 06:42:54 pm
Is there any shooting planned for Sunday?
You mean besides the 21 gun salute?  ;)

If we can get through all the stages on Saturday, then no, but if we don't we may have to defend Ft. Scotsman on Sunday AM
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on May 16, 2015, 10:41:36 pm
So the Memorial will be Sunday? Don't wanna miss that, if at all possible.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on May 22, 2015, 06:19:12 am
Hey River City John,
Is this something like what you had in mind? There are more than enough for each of the canyons.

 (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/1jBSRz.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on May 22, 2015, 03:19:19 pm
Looking forward to christening each and every one!

Crap!, there's enough of 'em that someone could take one home as a door prize. :P

RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on May 27, 2015, 09:21:53 pm
I am afraid to even wonder how or why you were able to acquire so many latrines.
Are there some construction workers having to hold it somewhere near by?

Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on May 27, 2015, 10:36:56 pm
 :'(  I greatly regret to announce that I will not be able to make it to Muster this year .... :'(

Nothing dire, but two or three factors have combined to render my attendance impossible, including a family event and also a significant home renovation project under way ....

I will very much miss seeing everyone ....
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on May 28, 2015, 03:32:01 am
Ah Jack, too bad, we'll miss you.   A tot of Nelsons Blood in yer honor sir!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on May 28, 2015, 07:30:36 am
Bummer, Jack!  We'll miss our Canadian contingent!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on May 29, 2015, 10:16:47 pm
sounds like a really good time, wish I could make it, was not in the cards, hope to make it next year.  If the wife does not want to come, may ask to car pool with bow view haymaker.  If I take the dodge crew cab, may car pool even if the wife comes.

Hard to judge the scale in the pick guessing that dog is a collie and not a shetland sheep dog like my Connery
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Guns Garrett on June 03, 2015, 09:24:00 pm
GAF Brothers and Sisters, due to circumstances beyond my control, Penny and myself will be unable to attend the Muster later this month.  We have been caught up in a legal issue (victims of a scam), and will require to secure a lawyer to recover some of our loss.  This case is currently ongoing, and can't say much, and may last several months.

We were really looking forward to seeing you all in Nebraska, but now I am all ready for next year!

BTW - I will be contacting the Comstock Lodge to cancel our reservations, so if any of you were turned away recently, check on availability again.  The room I had reserved was for one King-sized bed, double occupancy.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on June 03, 2015, 09:35:49 pm
Bummer!  Was looking forward to seeing you here.   Hope all goes well with your case.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on June 04, 2015, 12:21:54 am
Sorry to hear you can't make it either, Dave!  Next year?

If all goes well, at the beginning of June next year I will be participating in various events related to the 150th Anniversary of the Battle of Ridgeway (2 June 1866, the first of the Fenian Raids) as part of a unit portraying the York Rifle Company, one of the Independent Militia Companies which took part in the engagement. 

If that all works out, I'll have yet another new uniform .... something along these lines -

(http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i219/GrantRCanada/Fenian%20Raids/b993e66a-e80c-4aa7-b0a6-c80c93747414_zps0niiajxf.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 04, 2015, 07:36:01 am
It was requested that I post a schedule, so here it is:

Wednesday June 24
8:30-12:00- NRA RSO Class
12:00-1:00 Lunch
1:00-competion RSO Class Resumes

Thursday June 25
All Day-Check in
7:00- Breakfast
8:30-12:00 Squad Leader/Range Master Shoot Through
1:00-Completion Rifle Sight in

Friday, June 26
All Day- Check-In
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30– 6:00 Side Matches (EEM, EEM Long Range, EEM Sidearm), The Command will be split into 3 Squads to complete the side matches.
12:00– Lunch
Sight in targets will be available after lunch.
6:00-Supper
8:30- Retreat

Saturday, June 27  
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30– 6:00 Main Matches (Including Long Range & the Sidearm matches)
12:00– Lunch
7:00- Formal Banquet at Comstock Lodge. Retreat following

Sunday, June 28
7:00- Breakfast
8:00-8:30- Morning Colors/Mandatory Shooter’s Meeting
8:30-12:00- Complete Ft. Scotsman Stage and any other stages not completed
12:30– 1:30- Lunch
2:00- Awards & Final Muster
3:00- Fallen GAF Member Memorial

We expect to run 4 Squads shooting concurrently. Each squad will cycle through 3 of the main matches, the long range match and the sidearm match on Saturday. The Long Range Match and the Sidearm Match will each be treated as a stage.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 04, 2015, 10:07:35 am
Great schedule, thanks.

A quick question for clarification please. 

You say the long range and sidearm events will be treated as a stage.  Do you mean they are side matches included in the rotation for scheduling or that each will be included and scored as separate stages as part of the overall match total?

Thanks
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 04, 2015, 12:42:11 pm
Great question Bat! Thanks for asking.

Before getting to the answer I'd like to give a little background information.

Over the last several months I ask my staff to address the time/scheduling issues we experienced last year and the subjective nature of parts of the Brigade Championship scoring.

On some suggestions there was clear consensus; We need smaller squads with defined shooting orders and stages with a few less targets per stage starting earlier in the morning with a more defined break for lunch. On the Long Range Match we needed to use steel targets so as to eliminate the seemingly endless sighting in and multiple trips out to the targets. We further agreed that the best way to make the Brigade Championship less subjective was to weight the competition heavier on the shooting side by requiring Brigade Championship competitors to wear a uniform that meets a minimum standard as "qualifier" and use placement in the uniform competition as a tie breaker only. These issues were easy to address as we all agreed.  

Other issues there wasn't the clear consensus so I had to make a determination myself. One thing I liked about the Brigade Championship was that it was a 3-sided scoring and wanted to make sure that it continue to require placement in 3 events; making the Brigade Champion the "all around cowboy" if you will. My staff couldn't agree on what the third area should be. They also couldn't agree on the format of the sidearm competition.  So what I've decided is this:

For this year the Brigade Champion will be required to place in the Long Range and the Skirmish events with his uniform meeting minimum standards and the uniform competition will be a tie breaker. (This was the format we used to good effect last year) The Sidearm event will be a 10 shot paper event (B-27 target) at 25 yards and will be considered a side match for this year. The long range event will be a 15 shot event on armor targets (this allows full power jacketed loads) with 5 shots standing at 100 yds., 5 shots sitting or kneeling at 200yds., and 5 shots at 300 yds. from the shooters choice of position. All shots are to be rapid fire and total time is the tie breaker. The long range and sidearm events will be treated as a stage in that they are included in the rotation for scheduling. The Long Range match is included in Brigade Championship scoring as usual. The Sidearm Match is a voluntary side match this year, but if the scheduling works the way I think it will, I predict that it will become the 3rd area of competition for 2016.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 04, 2015, 01:24:53 pm
Hard to judge the scale in the pick guessing that dog is a collie and not a shetland sheep dog like my Connery
Full sized collie
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 04, 2015, 03:17:05 pm
WOW, you ask the right questions and look what you get.

One last question and I'm done, I promise. 

What paper target will you be using for the 25 yard sidearm match, B27?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 04, 2015, 04:39:12 pm
Yes
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on June 12, 2015, 11:09:20 am
Is the round count target count similar to previous Musters? Pierre currently has only about 155 Lebel cases available, after loading some for the long range, that will only leave about 130-135 for mail match ammo.(brass mortality is pretty high in the "N" chambered Lebels, due to over working of the case necks in re-sizing) Or I could order a couple of boxes of Privi factory ammo for the long range, hoping it will arrive in time, leaving more brass for lead bullets.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 12, 2015, 11:32:06 am
It'll be similar, but each stage will be a little shorter.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on June 12, 2015, 01:31:50 pm
What do the numbers look like now Jerry?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 12, 2015, 01:44:49 pm
 :'(
They're off looks like with all the cancelations we're going to be 25 or 26.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on June 15, 2015, 10:17:49 pm
As I stated before, this is a really busy time for me this year. Unfortunately, I will have to bow out of attending this year. Some work scheduling problems have become the "final straw" for being able to make it, along with the time pressures of building a house and the ever present financial pressures. However, arrangements will begin immediately for next year's GM. Perhaps things will "loosen up" a bit later to allow going to either Iowa or Illinois.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 16, 2015, 07:42:14 pm
Anybody have any 3lb coffee cans they could donate? I need a few to keep the mice out of the TP in the outhouses.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 16, 2015, 10:04:45 pm
I can bring you three 3# coffee cans (if you can call plastic anything cans.)  Found two in the basement with brass in them and we're about to empty another in the coffee club at work.  Also have a few 2# if you want them.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 17, 2015, 07:11:03 am
Yeah I still call the plastic ones cans :D

Will TP rolls fit in the 2lb ones?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 17, 2015, 08:08:24 am
Well, "A" TP roll will fit.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 17, 2015, 08:12:43 am
Ok, I'll take them too. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 20, 2015, 11:29:02 am
Pitspitr,
I realized a couple days ago I will have Friday off 'cuz I'm working Sunday. Is it too late to register?

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: CPL Jayhawker Jake on June 20, 2015, 12:40:11 pm
Sadly, it looks like I will have to cancel as well.  Between finally finding a job, and not being able to track down the appropriate amount of .30-40 Krag brass, it's probably best not to try and attend this muster.  See you all at the next though!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on June 20, 2015, 01:06:55 pm
Slim, I expect with all the cancellations, you shouldn't have a problem. Hope the remaining participants have a great time, looks like I'll be working Saturday..... :(
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 20, 2015, 01:15:42 pm
Already called and gave Mrs. Slim Jerry's numbers and told her to tell him to head that way.    ;D

I am sure it's no problem.    ;)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 20, 2015, 04:41:00 pm
Jerry said head on down.    ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 20, 2015, 06:25:58 pm
I realized a couple days ago I will have Friday off 'cuz I'm working Sunday. Is it too late to register?

Sorry Slim, I've been out of town the last couple of days and just got home. As Delmonico Said we have plenty of room and that goes for anybody else considering it.

Cpl. Jake I can loan you ammunition if that would help. We'd really like to have you.

Besides I just picked up the pistol we're giving as a door prize and it's really nice. Odds are down to under 24:1, so That's a lot better odds than playing the lottery.  ::)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on June 20, 2015, 09:31:09 pm
Jake, Ive got enough extra Krag rounds for two people.  Between Jerry and I we've got plenty.  Please, we need some corporals to keep all these damn officers in line!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 20, 2015, 09:53:14 pm
Sorry Slim, I've been out of town the last couple of days and just got home. As Delmonico Said we have plenty of room and that goes for anybody else considering it.
Sounds good. I'll plan on it. I should be there some time on Friday. I'll see if the boss will let me off the following Monday for a travel day.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 20, 2015, 10:39:51 pm
Are you bringing Root Beer?   ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 21, 2015, 07:43:29 am
Are you bringing Root Beer?   ;D ;D
What brand?

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 21, 2015, 09:11:00 am
What brand?

Slim

 ;D

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Major 2 on June 21, 2015, 09:16:18 am
If I had a dog in the fight...I'd vote Dog 'n' Suds
Being a Mid-west icon , I assume you have it

A local Hot Dog stand imports it in bottles here....  Major like !
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 21, 2015, 10:35:56 am
If I had a dog in the fight...I'd vote Dog 'n' Suds
Being a Mid-west icon , I assume you have it

A local Hot Dog stand imports it in bottles here....  Major like !

Ain't seen one since may Johnson was Prez, but then we ain't really the Midwest on this side of the Misery River, so smile when you say that.  LOL
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Texas Lawdog on June 21, 2015, 04:13:05 pm
I like A&W!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: CPL Jayhawker Jake on June 21, 2015, 07:19:08 pm
Jake, Ive got enough extra Krag rounds for two people.  Between Jerry and I we've got plenty.  Please, we need some corporals to keep all these damn officers in line!

If it was just the ammo, I'd take you up on it.  Unfortunately, after ETSing from the Army back in April, my job hunt wasn't exactly fruitful until this past week, when I landed a night watchman's job.  Easy as pie, but the hours don't work too well with other things.  If I did attend, I'd be asleep halfway though the first stage.  ::)  Hopefully by the next muster it'll be practical for me to make it.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 22, 2015, 01:39:11 pm
So everyone knows, I am planning on arriving in camp sometime tomorrow afternoon.   

Once I'm there for an hour or so I will be able to provide meals of some sort, homemade of course

I plan on full meals of course on Friday for 25 or so, but anyone who is going to be there sooner than Friday morning let me know just for an idea.   

Also Gatorade search was not as good as hopped.  I 5 cans of orange that make 6 gallons and that's what I add to my jug for that "start out stong and mellow" stuff I keep.  Also have part of a can of green I'll save for the guys who want it in the evening.   

If anyone wants other flavors grab them or if you see some cheap grab it cause I cleaned the Wal-mart I go to out yesterday.   Powder is cheap, but getting hard to get, going to have them order me a case of green when I get back if I can, we have one that is great about helping out.

Also, I have the two yaller jugs like always, one for iced tea and on for Gatorade, if someone has a extra one to toss in we can set up an ice water one, a couple extra to take into the canyons would be nice also.   

Also will have to salt pill/heat tabs as always, I know some besides me use them.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 22, 2015, 04:41:10 pm
Oh, I'll have my cell phone on and even if I don't here it I'll check messages so if anyone is lost or needs a load hauled up, call.

402-432-0339
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 22, 2015, 06:00:56 pm
;D

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg.html)


That's what I figured. I'll try to locate some.

If I had a dog in the fight...I'd vote Dog 'n' Suds
Being a Mid-west icon , I assume you have it

A local Hot Dog stand imports it in bottles here....  Major like !
Wow does that bring back memories. Marshfield, WI had one of those in the 70's. I didn't know it still existed.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Major 2 on June 22, 2015, 07:24:19 pm
locations in Montague &  Muskegon, Michigan

http://dog-n-suds.com/

To be honest, I don't know if its my favorite because it so good or so rare in these parts  :-\
But to be fair.... I'd like to try Del's Sprecher Brewery.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on June 22, 2015, 08:37:40 pm
locations in Montague &  Muskegon, Michigan

http://dog-n-suds.com/

To be honest, I don't know if its my favorite because it so good or so rare in these parts  :-\
But to be fair.... I'd like to try Del's Sprecher Brewery.


Tis Slim's it comes from up there, We see it now and then, most often at Menards of all places, but since Menard's and I are not on speaking terms I don't get any anymore.   No root beer is good enough to get me to go back in there, even if it's only for root beer.  And why does a hardware store need a grocery section anyway?
 ::)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Major 2 on June 22, 2015, 11:39:56 pm
" And why does a hardware store need a grocery section anyway? "   ???

...reminds me of a old joke  concerning an RC & a Moon Pie  :) it's a southern thing.  ;)
I've heard of Menards .., mostly on the NASCAR & Indy cars also ran lists ( another Southern thing )
seems to me I've  been in one in SPRINGFIELD, IL.  :-\  
With none closer than Kentucky looks like, We've managed without too.


The Joke ( less someone be wondering )

Man walks in and says, "I'll have a RC Cola and a Moon Pie."
The guy behind the counter says, "You must be from Alabama."
The man is a little miffed and says, "If I walked in and ordered Peking Duck and Tea would you say, I must be from China?"
"No"
"If I ordered Pasta Carbonara and Chianti would you say, I must be from Italy"
"No"
Then Why do you say I must be from Alabama when I order a Moon Pie and RC Cola.

"Because THIS is a Hardware Store."

 ::) 

I didn't say it was old FUNNY Joke   ;D  you just had to understand , the late Jerry Clower
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Texas Lawdog on June 23, 2015, 06:12:25 am
I still like A&W from the tap, not from cans or bottles.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Bat 2919 on June 23, 2015, 09:57:34 am
I still like A&W from the tap, not from cans or bottles.

I'll have to agree, but only in the "Frosty Mug."  It just ain't the same outa that paper cup.  I was in one of the new A & W's for the first time in years.  It was combined with a fish chain (I forget what the name of it was) and they still had the glass mugs advertised on the menu board.  Took me back to my childhood.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Major 2 on June 23, 2015, 11:46:07 am
Long John Silvers ...sorta a hanger on from the 70's  British invasion music 60's 70's
 and Fish 'N' Chips fast foods  in the 70's.
The two national chains were  the a for mentioned LJS & Arthur Treacher's Fish and Chips
both have dwindled and are now owned by  Nathan's , the Hot Dog people ...

and you're spot on right about the mugs....  sorta like Coke in the old original little green bottles

I think the Alum & varnish they use to seal the can,  flavors the suds in distasteful way.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Texas Lawdog on June 23, 2015, 01:09:05 pm
There was an A&W Drive In in Amarillo in the 60s, complete with carhops. That was always a treat when we drove over there. Moose is doing errands today, she's going back to Atlanta this weekend and returns on Monday.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 23, 2015, 07:08:26 pm
Sprecher's is made in Milwaukee. Menards HQ is in Eau Claire.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on June 23, 2015, 07:12:09 pm
Delmonico,
I plan on bringing my Big Orange R2D2.

I'll also bring you a tin of Earthworm flour. Keep it as a camp joke, or slip the contents into one of the recipes sometime over the weekend and let everyone guess where it was used . . .

Coming in Thursday.

I'm partial to Sioux City Sarsaparilla meself.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on June 23, 2015, 09:35:15 pm
Weather forecast sounds perfect! :o

RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 23, 2015, 11:16:44 pm
Delmonico,
I plan on bringing my Big Orange R2D2.

I'll also bring you a tin of Earthworm flour. Keep it as a camp joke, or slip the contents into one of the recipes sometime over the weekend and let everyone guess where it was used . . .

Coming in Thursday.

I'm partial to Sioux City Sarsaparilla meself.

RCJ
I'm going thru Sioux City on the way. I'll see if I can find some.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 24, 2015, 11:34:52 am
I'm partial to Sioux City Sarsaparilla meself.
Me too
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 24, 2015, 09:26:13 pm
I have a spotting scope I will be bringing but don't have a tripod for it. I think a camera tripod will fit it. If anyone has one and is willing to bring it, please do. I will also see if I can borrow one from verk tomorrow.
I'll be heading west around 15:00 tomorrow.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on June 24, 2015, 09:44:00 pm
I have a spotting scope I will be bringing but don't have a tripod for it. I think a camera tripod will fit it. If anyone has one and is willing to bring it, please do. I will also see if I can borrow one from verk tomorrow.
I'll be heading west around 15:00 tomorrow.

Slim

I'll bring the camera tripod.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on June 25, 2015, 06:58:28 am
I'll bring the camera tripod.

RCJ
Thanks, John.

Slim
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on June 29, 2015, 11:29:02 am
Please post your After Action Reports here:
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,55513.new.html#new (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,55513.new.html#new)
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on June 29, 2015, 12:55:57 pm
 I've been watching for some news about the action at the 2015 Muster-can't wait to hear some!!!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on June 30, 2015, 05:51:18 am
I didn't get any pictures, but I sure enjoyed getting to visit and shoot with everyone.  Once again, some great camp fire stories.  Charles, you need to get out here so you can share some of yours!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on July 27, 2015, 05:10:02 pm


Wow-Col Niederlander is the Champion-I just caught that! Congratulations Colonel! :D




Once again, some great camp fire stories.  Charles, you need to get out here so you can share some of yours!


It would be great to shoot with you gentlemen again-It's on the short list-I'm looking forward to it!


Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on July 28, 2015, 01:21:23 pm
We'd love to have you!

It appears there are folks coming from back east. Maybe you could car pool.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 04, 2015, 08:25:16 pm






It appears there are folks coming from back east. Maybe you could car pool.



 There you go again General! Did those other Easterners do something wrong so you're gonna put them all in a wagon with Pvt. Isaac for a 1500 mile ride? :D








Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on August 05, 2015, 06:54:21 am
This would be a strictly voluntary basis, Pvt. Isaac. I wouldn't order anybody to ride with you.

 You never know. There might be somebody craz...ah fooli...ah stup...ah desper...ah HAPPY to ride with you!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: OklaTom on August 05, 2015, 11:58:24 am
You ought to try road tripping with 1st Sgt Tom Rhodes and 2nd Lt George Smith.  Now that is a trip from hell, since we make a joke out of everyone and everything...  Looking forward to next year.  Hope the timer does not forget to hit the start button....    :o
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Johnson Barr on August 05, 2015, 12:45:39 pm
Or the STOP button for that matter, eh Jerry?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on August 05, 2015, 05:03:47 pm
 :-[ It seems some people just have problems with buttons. I'm usually just happy when I get all my fly buttons buttoned.  :-[

Of course with 3B's generosity it should be less of an issue.  :)

It seems the Texans have hearts befitting the size of their state!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: River City John on August 05, 2015, 05:04:16 pm
You're still in the Cavalry, aren't you Lt. Smith? ::)


RCJ
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: OklaTom on August 05, 2015, 06:18:33 pm
:-[ It seems some people just have problems with buttons. I'm usually just happy when I get all my fly buttons buttoned.  :-[


Trust me, Gen. Pitspitr, sir. We are all relieved when you manage to get your fly buttons fastened.  :-\
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 06, 2015, 12:10:34 pm



You ought to try road tripping with 1st Sgt Tom Rhodes and 2nd Lt George Smith. 


Road trip? Most people wouldn't be caught dead in my car :D




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Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Pitspitr on August 06, 2015, 01:29:22 pm
Fireball or V-8?
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Delmonico on August 06, 2015, 01:38:03 pm
Prolly a 389 and a turbohydromatic.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 06, 2015, 02:11:57 pm
 


  Close! It's a 389 all right, backed by it's original 4 speed fully automatic dual range Super HydraMatic :)




Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Johnson Barr on August 06, 2015, 02:15:07 pm
RCJ that would be dis-mounted cavalry. Shanks mare you know. A lovely bunch of coconuts! 
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on August 06, 2015, 04:56:51 pm
Y'all can ride on the back.

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s363/sgtdrydock/426790_263063673767938_100001929227988_575570_633733187_n.jpg
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 06, 2015, 07:43:15 pm



Y'all can ride on the back.

http://i1048.photobucket.com/albums/s363/sgtdrydock/426790_263063673767938_100001929227988_575570_633733187_n.jpg


 

  I remember when you got that-it is too cool!!!



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  You could put some sides on it, put about 20 of us back there with AKs, G3s, FALs, BM59s etc and we could do a Somalian drive by :D


Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 06, 2015, 07:58:20 pm
But, Charles, we're not "most people"! I'd ride up in that!

Or Drydock's truck, too. But I might have to set aside an extra day for the trip, what's the cruising speed on that truck? I remember my '53 1 ton would go 50-55, but it was really wound up doing it. 45-50 was more like it. But that was back in the 55 days anyway, so it wasn't a problem then.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 06, 2015, 08:39:25 pm




I remember my '53 1 ton would go 50-55, but it was really wound up doing it. 45-50 was more like it. But that was back in the 55 days anyway, so it wasn't a problem then.



 I bet you really had to put a load on that to even need the granny gear.




Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on August 06, 2015, 09:28:51 pm
Its got a pretty tall high range gear in the rear axle.  (Rod and cable actuated with the OTHER gear shift)  and will cruise 55-60 comfortably on flat ground.  Stopping takes some planning though . . .
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 06, 2015, 10:00:57 pm
Two speed rear axle does make a difference, my 1 ton was just a single speed. Never really found a load big enough to need granny gear, but it was useful for creeping around the farm. I don't think I ever had a hay crew load it, just loaded it myself, most of the fields were flat enough I just slip it out of gear and leave it sit idling while I stacked it.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 09, 2015, 12:14:52 am
Drydock, did you get all the new tires on that?

Was just looking online earlier, for mine I would need 6- 700x18 tires,$188 plus flaps and tubes, and a radiator,$3-400 just as a minimum to get it rolling around again. Unless I could find some other radiator I could "Bubba" into it....
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Drydock on August 09, 2015, 09:41:43 pm
I've got 6 new tires, 7.50x20 thru the local MFA, along with flaps and tubes.  Got to get them mounted yet.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 10, 2015, 07:20:00 pm
So the next step is finding an old time tire guy that's not scared to death of split rims.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 10, 2015, 09:39:18 pm
 



   I think most of the paranoia of split rims was started by mechanics trying to make everything they did seem like voodoo black magic that you had to pay an arm and a leg for-kind of like some gunsmiths with headspace, refinishing-you name it.  Yeah, if you do something blatantly wrong that hoop might come flying off.  I've changed tires on them-it aint rocket science! :D




Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on August 10, 2015, 10:15:15 pm
I used to help bust tires on 5-Tons all the time.  When we inflated them we just parked the truck on top of the wheel to make sure it didn't hurt anybody even if it DID fly apart.  Not that big a deal.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 11, 2015, 06:13:00 am
I used to help bust tires on 5-Tons all the time.  When we inflated them we just parked the truck on top of the wheel to make sure it didn't hurt anybody even if it DID fly apart.  Not that big a deal.

We had a tire cage in our motor pool. Only time I remember we had a ring come off, was on the duals on a 2 1/2 ton, and they just drove it back to the motor pool, only thing to notice was the gap between the duals was gone.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 15, 2015, 08:32:49 pm
  


Well I figured you two had some experience with them!

  When I first came in the Army, we had some "duece 'en a halfs" with tires on them from 1955! On that note-Yes, I was in the Army at one time-it's America-you can do more than one branch! :D






..............................and will cruise 55-60 comfortably on flat ground.  Stopping takes some planning though . . .






  I took the Star Chief up Pilot Mountain in Western N.C. Coming down reminded me of that Midnight Oil song where they sing "How can we sleep when our brakes are burning"




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   Andy Griffith was born in this area. On the Andy Griffith Show they called it "Mount Pilot" and called his home town,  Mount Airy,  "Mayberry"




Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Niederlander on August 15, 2015, 10:29:24 pm
Soldier and then a Marine............I sense a campfire story that needs to be told!
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: pony express on August 15, 2015, 11:11:36 pm
 


Well I figured you two had some experience with them!

  When I first came in the Army, we had some "duece 'en a halfs" with tires on them from 1955! On that note-Yes, I was in the Army at one time-it's America-you can do more than one branch! :D





 

I don't know how old the tires were, probably not that old on the ones that were in Germany. But when I was in AIT at Ft Leonard Wood, we still were using Gas engine Duece and a halfs. No telling how old the tires were, they may have been warehoused for years. And since I was a mechanic and not a driver, our driving training was just limited to on post, not like the truck drivers, they go all around the area for training.
Title: Re: 2015 Grand Muster
Post by: Charles Isaac on August 16, 2015, 07:09:47 pm







I don't know how old the tires were, probably not that old on the ones that were in Germany. But when I was in AIT at Ft Leonard Wood.................................






Now you see, there goes that "balance of the universe" thing-Col Niederlander was in the Marines and You went to Fort Leonardwood which is where I did my basic training in the Army. Things always happen for a purpose and there a reason for everything!










Soldier and then a Marine............I sense a campfire story that needs to be told!






  You certainly have some insight. How do you know that I would rather eat off a tin plate, sleep in a tent and sit around a campfire and not go stay in a comfy hotel with the Texans and New York City people?.........................Hey, that reminds me of a good campfire story! :D