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Title: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on November 15, 2011, 08:45:45 pm
It is my pleasure to announce that the Kansas Vigilance Committee has volunteered to host the 2012 Grand Muster at Garnett Kansas October 5th through the 7th.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cowtown Scout on November 15, 2011, 09:33:37 pm
I am putting this on my calendar right now.  See everyone then if not sooner.
Scout  8) 8)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on November 16, 2011, 10:39:19 am
It has been requested that we have the banquett at an in-door venue for 2012. (We got lucky with the weather this year.)  We have started the search.  As soon as we have that lined up, and a cost established, we will begin registrations.

Registrations for 2012 will be handled by myself, pretty much the same way we did for the 2011 Grand Muster.
[If anyone has improvement suggestions, please send me a PM.]

Respecfully;
Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG [again]
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on November 16, 2011, 10:53:07 am
THANK YOU!  to the KVC and it's GAF members for doing this again.  I know your hard work is apprieciated.  I will be there God willin' and the creek don't rise.  and I will try to bring some troopers with me.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Delmonico on November 16, 2011, 06:26:53 pm
It has been requested that we have the banquett at an in-door venue for 2012. (We got lucky with the weather this year.)  We have started the search.  As soon as we have that lined up, and a cost established, we will begin registrations.

Registrations for 2012 will be handled by myself, pretty much the same way we did for the 2011 Grand Muster.
[If anyone has improvement suggestions, please send me a PM.]

Respecfully;
Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG [again]

Are you guys covered for the other meals or will the Commissary Dept be needed? 
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Mustang Gregg on December 17, 2011, 04:55:33 am
I'm planning on making it to this one.  It's been quite a spell since I been able to make the "big" GAF Muster.

Respectfully submitted,
LtCol (bvt) Mustang Gregg
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: FTrooper on December 24, 2011, 01:25:06 pm
It is on my calendar thanks to the gracious invitation of the Col.  I do hope to make it and sounds like it will be the debut of my reproduction M1872 Infantry Gear!!!

Chris Fischer
F-Troop
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on December 24, 2011, 03:01:06 pm
I am so excited, and will be there at all costs.

Not only is the GAF worthy of support,- the Kansas Vigilance Committee consistently hosts memorable events.

To my mind the above two groups represent the very best combination that could be asked for when considering variety of arms allowed coupled with creative use of a range.

RCJ



 
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on December 24, 2011, 06:22:55 pm
..... and sounds like it will be the debut of my reproduction M1872 Infantry Gear!!!
Oh NO! I thought the Department Muster was going to be it's debut.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: c.o.jones on December 24, 2011, 07:46:59 pm
I'm looking forward to GAF shoot with NCOWS rules.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: US Scout on December 26, 2011, 08:32:19 am
I'm looking forward to GAF shoot with NCOWS rules.


GAF Musters are run according to GAF rules within the safety guidelines of the host range.


US Scout
GAF, Commanding
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on December 26, 2011, 08:35:27 am
I'm looking forward to GAF shoot with NCOWS rules.

  ??? Wouldn't that really just be an NCOWS shoot with uniforms?   ::)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: US Scout on December 26, 2011, 04:20:39 pm
  ??? Wouldn't that really just be an NCOWS shoot with uniforms?   ::)

Maybe, then maybe not!

We have different firearm requirements and shooting categories, and our stages have our own special twist to them. 

US Scout
GAF, Commanding
Title: '72 field gear debut
Post by: FTrooper on December 26, 2011, 04:55:55 pm
depends alot on when it arrives and what I know I can attend.  ;)

Chris Fischer
F-Troop
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on February 17, 2012, 10:20:58 am

Yesterday I secured an indoor place for the saturday evening festivities and chow just in case of inclement weather.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Drydock on February 17, 2012, 05:16:30 pm
Excellent!  Great work, I',m looking forward to it!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on April 08, 2012, 01:51:16 pm
I just started a new job but should be able to take off by Oct.  Looking forward to seeing all of y'all again.

Capt. Mack
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on April 08, 2012, 01:53:30 pm
  ??? Wouldn't that really just be an NCOWS shoot with uniforms?   ::)

That is what I thought.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on April 08, 2012, 06:20:52 pm
Never heard of NCOWS allowing RIFLE calibers in the main match,  GAF does give more leeway in weapon choices and isn't as strict about PC gear.  Authenticity is encouraged by the GAF and rewarded.  but those that don't go all the way are still allowed to join the fun even at the regional and national level.  within the rules of the hosting range.  

The way I feel is the GAF says "this is what would best fit what we are doing"  NCOWS often says "you can't use that here"
basically the same goal  but approached a different way.  Just my 1/2 cent worth.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on April 09, 2012, 06:15:55 pm
I will submit for vacation tomorrow. It stands a good chance, October, I work nights.

Brian
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on April 09, 2012, 08:15:20 pm
Please post lodging info as soon as you can. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Niederlander on April 09, 2012, 09:21:37 pm
Welcome back, Captain Mack!  Where ya' been?!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on April 09, 2012, 09:59:15 pm
Welcome back, Captain Mack!  Where ya' been?!

Howdy Ned!  Been really busy with family stuff for the last year but now I am back!   ;D
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Niederlander on April 10, 2012, 07:49:04 am
Family comes first, but it's nice to have you back on the forum!  How's Texas Sarge doing?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on April 10, 2012, 09:06:00 pm
Family comes first, but it's nice to have you back on the forum!  How's Texas Sarge doing?

Sarge is well. Keeping up with grandbabies.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Guns Garrett on April 16, 2012, 05:17:31 pm
Captmack  (and other interested parties):

For those that do not want to do the primitive camping on-site, there is the Garnett Inn and RV Park (Sheila Woosley  785-448-6800 or www.garnettinnandrvpark.com) located 2.5 miles from the range.

Last time I stayed there (2011) they had a good clean place, and reasonable rates.  Very easy commute to the range. (3 - left turns)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on May 11, 2012, 08:45:38 am
Looks like I can't make it, will be training on one of my new systems.

Dusty
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on July 03, 2012, 06:11:15 pm
Training shifted to December, so I can make it. How do I get a registration form, how much is the registration?

Brian
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on July 03, 2012, 09:31:54 pm
Great news! Now If something just happened you you could come to Nebraska next week. :o
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on July 04, 2012, 10:18:24 am

  unfortunately it is so hot that I need to stay home to take care of livestock. But I will be getting a registration form on here soon. I would like to get a short review of your course of fire.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Guns Garrett on July 05, 2012, 05:27:59 pm
I second the request on a course-of-fire summary - or at least a round count.  I am undecided wheter to register as "Rifleman (SS rifle & pistol) or "Infantryman (SS rifle only).  I assume the Infatryman may expend mor rifle ammo than a Rifleman?:  "The Infantryman shall engage only designated rifle targets but may be required to engage extra designated targets in lieu of shooting the pistol targets."

My rifle ammo is rather expensive (even empty brass), so I would like to have an idea what I will need in time to "arrange financing" to obtain enough...
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on July 06, 2012, 08:13:11 pm
Saw something online, I have ordered 2 items for door prizes.

Brian
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: captmack on July 08, 2012, 08:16:52 pm
Captmack  (and other interested parties):

For those that do not want to do the primitive camping on-site, there is the Garnett Inn and RV Park (Sheila Woosley  785-448-6800 or www.garnettinnandrvpark.com) located 2.5 miles from the range.

Last time I stayed there (2011) they had a good clean place, and reasonable rates.  Very easy commute to the range. (3 - left turns)

Thanks for the info Guns.

Mack
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on July 19, 2012, 09:33:01 am
The first registration has been recieved from Major C.O. Jones.


Respectfully;
Major Michael "Books" Tatham
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on July 21, 2012, 11:09:09 pm
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,44330.0.html

Anyone from the southwest want to wagon train to the grand Muster?
I sure want to go but need someone to help drive the team.  Safford AZ, about 3 hrs east from phoenix is where i'd be leaving from.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Wooly Dan on July 23, 2012, 08:01:28 am
I have started gathering door prizes for the Grand Muster.  Last year Windy City did a great job w/door prizes would like to get close this year.  If you can come up w/something bring it w/you.  I am still not a member of GAF. I have tried a number of times to register on line with no success.  I have taken the name and address off the FAF site and mail a hard copy at least twice about to give up.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on July 23, 2012, 08:53:56 am
I have started gathering door prizes for the Grand Muster.  Last year Windy City did a great job w/door prizes would like to get close this year.  If you can come up w/something bring it w/you.  I am still not a member of GAF. I have tried a number of times to register on line with no success.  I have taken the name and address off the FAF site and mail a hard copy at least twice about to give up.

Wooly Dan,
 the gentleman you'll wish to e-mule in here is Bull Schmitt, I believe. The registration off the web site is done sporadically, but rest assured you are a member.
See you in October. I'll bring some door prize items.
RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bull Schmitt on July 25, 2012, 07:00:42 pm
Wooly Dan is #789 and has been assigned to the Department of the Missouri.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 03, 2012, 11:29:18 am
I would like to get a short review of your course of fire.

I second the request on a course-of-fire summary - or at least a round count.  I am undecided wheter to register as "Rifleman (SS rifle & pistol) or "Infantryman (SS rifle only).  I assume the Infatryman may expend mor rifle ammo than a Rifleman?:  "The Infantryman shall engage only designated rifle targets but may be required to engage extra designated targets in lieu of shooting the pistol targets."

For reviews of what we did at the Dept. Muster please see the DOMM 2012 thread in the After Action Reports: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,44406.25.html It contains several. Also be sure to look at Cowtown Scout's photobucket slide show for a look at the targets we used. I realize you will need to use the targets you have, though I might be able to bring a few of ours for people to try. Anyway I think you'll like to at least see what we used.

We had 3 stages of between 15 and 22 rifle targets and between 5 and 10 pistol targets. With the heat we took some time off during the hottest part of the day and still finished all three stages in 1 day. We had 13 shooters  (I counted myself twice as I shot in 2 classes). We all shot in the same squad.  This doesn't sound like a lot of shooting but it was enough to be satisfying and yet not so much as to risk heat casualties. Most participants expended somewhere between 100 and 115 rifle cartridges. In the last couple of years that we have used the skirmish format we have found that 15 to 22 rifle targets in the heat of July is about optimal. Given that you will be hosting the GM in Oct. and that it is the Grand Muster you might want to add a couple more stages and/or a few more targets per stage.

The distance to the pistol targets was in the 10 to 20 yard range and the distance to rifle targets was somewhere in the 50 to 100 yard range. If a contestant hit a target 3 times without knocking it down it is considered dead. If he misses 2 to 3 times he is encouraged to move closer. We usually throw in some bayonet dummies, ect. One thing we found is that this number of targets will neccesitate using a stopwatch as most shot timers reset at 2 minutes and these stages tend to run between 8 and 10 minutes.

Time must also be figured in to allow the Long Range match as it is now included in the Brigade Championship computations.

The following is a video of Ned Niederlanders first run at the first stage. I ran out of memory on my camera or I would have video from all 3 stages.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4EjUYh8mxc&feature=youtube_gdata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4EjUYh8mxc&feature=youtube_gdata)

I recognize that my setup is unique and adjustments might need to be made, but this is the review you requested.

Guns I shot the EEM (same format as the main match) in Staff Officer (pistol only) thus engaging all targets with pistol only and shot roughly the same total round count (ie. 25 rifle targets+ 10 Pistol targets= 35 targets) as if I had shot it as most folk did using a rifle and a pistol. Again with all targets being "must hit" there is no way an exact round count can be given but a rough rule of thumb is that most folks will use approximately 2 shots for each rifle target  and the same or slightly less for each pistol target. This approximation will be +/- depending on the distance to the target.

I hope other participants will add their comments on the stages and setup, ect. This is a match and format that; as one participant said, "Truly needs to be experienced to be fully appreciated."
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Drydock on August 03, 2012, 05:54:32 pm
Just my 2 cents, but I think a 3 stage  Main Skirmish match, A single stage EEM Skirmish, with a seprerate long range component for both Main and EEM, is just about optimal for a 3 day match.  I'd rather see a few more targets than additional Runs.  But 20 to 25 seems about right.

-Friday-
-EEM in the Morning,  EEM Long range all afternoon at shooters discretion.  Those that wish may shoot their main match rifle for score as well.

-Saturday-
-One skirmish run in the Morning, one in the afternoon.  If numbers warrent, split into 2 squads and swap off. Long range that evening.

-Sunday-
-Final Skirmish for all hands in the morning, awards in the early afternoon, and everyone's away!

IMHO, have a cuppa joe on me!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 03, 2012, 06:37:09 pm
With the inclusion of the long range in the Brigade Championship, I'd rather see it on Saturday or Sunday for the sake of those that have to travel and don't care to attend the side matches, but that's just my opinion
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Drydock on August 03, 2012, 06:46:21 pm
I see the point.  How about that?  (See above)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on August 04, 2012, 07:43:25 pm
http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,44330.0.html

Anyone from the southwest want to wagon train to the grand Muster?
I sure want to go but need someone to help drive the team.  Safford AZ, about 3 hrs east from phoenix is where i'd be leaving from.

Good news,  I officialy got the time off work.  Now I REALY need someone to share at least part of the dirve.  Will someone PLEASE go with me.  Does anyone from the Southwwest want to share part of the drive to Kansas? PLEASE?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 05, 2012, 07:50:53 am
Super! Boy I'm glad to hear it.

It'd be really great if Capt. Dan Bloggett could come with you.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: US Scout on August 05, 2012, 08:23:31 am
It is my pleasure to announce that the Kansas Vigilance Committee has volunteered to host the 2012 Grand Muster at Garnett Kansas October 5th through the 7th.


I regret that with the change of dates to October I am unable to attend.  Sadly, I must attend a (wife's) family wedding in Florida that weekend.  I would much rather be at the Grand Muster of course. 

US Scout
GAF, Commanding
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on August 05, 2012, 09:51:21 am
Super! Boy I'm glad to hear it.

It'd be really great if Capt. Dan Bloggett could come with you.


Captain Dan can't make it this year. I'm looking for anyone else from any where this side of Texas and south of Colorado that wants to share part of the Ride.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 05, 2012, 04:37:20 pm
Trap,
Will the Long range rifle be 200 yds like last year or will it be 300?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on August 06, 2012, 09:13:07 am
Trap,
Will the Long range rifle be 200 yds like last year or will it be 300?

Trap is on a "scout" to Colorado, and I don't know if he has any access to a computer.  Be patient; he will get back to the Barracks as soon as he returns to Kansas.

Repectfully;
Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 06, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
Thanks Books
If I'd been thinking I could have asked "Trap or Books" In the mean time I can afford to be a little patient as I have almost 2 months to get my re-loading done.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on August 22, 2012, 09:31:04 am

  The long range rifle will be at at least two different ranges, but the longest will be at about 200M. I am planning for it to be available to shoot fri- sun at designated times. there will also be a long range pistol side match, Fri only. EEM will be shot Fri pm.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on August 22, 2012, 10:15:38 am
Thanks
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on September 02, 2012, 06:46:38 pm
Schedule change again, can't make it. Need an address to send a couple o door prizes.

Brian
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on September 04, 2012, 08:47:56 am
  Very sorry to hear you cant make it. Prizes may be sent to John Torrence, 2723 Emmer Rd, Lebo Ks. 66856
Would rather just have you here!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 04, 2012, 01:06:43 pm
Is there a registration form available yet?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cactus Rope on September 04, 2012, 10:14:40 pm
Col.
Look under subject, GAF entry form of which you responded on July 11, 2012. 
It's the next subject following 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett, KS
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 05, 2012, 04:46:07 am
 :-[ OOPS  :-[

Thanks CR
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: pony express on September 09, 2012, 10:05:52 am
  The long range rifle will be at at least two different ranges, but the longest will be at about 200M. I am planning for it to be available to shoot fri- sun at designated times. there will also be a long range pistol side match, Fri only. EEM will be shot Fri pm.

Will the long range be shot on paper, or steel? Lead bullets only, or jacketed milspec loads permitted?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on September 09, 2012, 06:19:51 pm

 Probably steel, lead only please
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Gripmaker on September 11, 2012, 09:22:54 pm
Books,  Sign me up for Staff Officer/BP (pray for a 10 mph wind both days).  The check and info for registration will be in the mail tomorrow. Looking forward to another great time at the Muster.  GOOOOO GAF!

LTC Montgomery Little,
Senior Chaplain, GAF
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Gripmaker on September 15, 2012, 12:46:01 pm
SOOOO, Michael Tatham,  How many are presently signed up for this year's muster?  I need to start a prayer list for travel and safety for us all.  See Y'all there!

LTC Montgomery Little, Senior Chaplain, GAF
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 15, 2012, 12:53:29 pm
Entry and check in the mail.
RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 15, 2012, 02:21:44 pm
Mine were mailed last week.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on September 16, 2012, 11:25:59 am
SOOOO, Michael Tatham,  How many are presently signed up for this year's muster?  I need to start a prayer list for travel and safety for us all.  See Y'all there!

LTC Montgomery Little, Senior Chaplain, GAF

I have three or four registrations plus a transfer of funds from the TAPS Encampment to the GAF Muster.
I will do the paper work and file a more complete report tomorrow (Tuesday at the latest).

Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG

Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cowtown Scout on September 16, 2012, 07:28:04 pm
Filled my entry out today, it will go in the mail tomorrow.  I was wanting to change categories but have run out of time to work out the new loads and sight in.  Going to stick with what I have working for this muster.
Scout
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Stu Kettle on September 17, 2012, 12:25:56 pm
My conscience will not allow me to see so many Dept. of the Missouri troops head off to face the hostiles in Kansas without the aid of my repeating rifle.  I can find Garnett, how do I get to camp from there?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 17, 2012, 01:26:07 pm
Gen'l Hancock said Indians would follow the smell of cigar smoke and look for the fat man. I don't think this will work, though.

I suppose one of the KVC boys will print one of their maps. Or a couple of those longitude and latitude numbers.

But frankly, I wouldn't give those KVC boys too much latitude.
They be tricksters.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 17, 2012, 01:32:23 pm
Which reminds me, are we going to get the opportunity to bayonet something in one of the scenarios. Just planning on what to bring.


RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 17, 2012, 02:21:14 pm
N38 15.363 W095 12.992
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Stu Kettle on September 17, 2012, 04:37:37 pm
N38 15.363 W095 12.992

I can find that - see you there.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Guns Garrett on September 17, 2012, 09:44:01 pm
"...follow the smell of cigar smoke and look for the fat man."
RCJ

Which one?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Delmonico on September 17, 2012, 10:24:33 pm
Which one?

Doesn't matter, several fat men with cigars will make more smoke than just one. 
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Niederlander on September 20, 2012, 05:18:13 pm
I just posted a gun cart for sale in the classifieds.  I mention it because on the off chance anyone is interested, you might be able to convince Pitsptr to bring it along to the Muster.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on September 20, 2012, 08:26:20 pm
Books:

Did you get my e-mail?    ???
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on September 21, 2012, 10:12:32 am
Books:

Did you get my e-mail?    ???

Yes; and I thought I responded.

You are good to go.  We will see you at the muster, and adress any administrative isssues then.

Books

Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on September 21, 2012, 03:50:41 pm
Many thanks, Mr. O'Toole!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: pony express on September 21, 2012, 06:03:03 pm
My application is in the mail, finally. Looks like I will probably do the same as last year, drive out early Sat morning and miss the friday events.(Unless pregnancy problem pops up)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Drydock on September 21, 2012, 07:22:26 pm
Should have mine by now!   ;D
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bow View Haymaker on September 21, 2012, 08:10:45 pm
I regret to report that I will not  be abloe to make the journey from the Dept. of the Platte, Southern division, to the Grand Muster.  The horses are still tired form the trip in July and so is the driver.  I hopoe to get at least one other person from this Department interested in going to the grand Muster with me next year.  Will be thinking of you all.  Give 'em Heck for Bow View!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on September 22, 2012, 12:49:32 pm
I regret to advise that it now turns out I am also unable to attend ....   :(

My two year old grandson was taken from Medicine Hat to the Children's Hospital in Calgary yesterday, and last evening was diagnosed with leukemia.  They will be starting him on chemotherapy on Monday.  My wife and I are in Calgary now and for the next several days at least.  Needless to say, I will have other priorities for the foreseeable future.

Please help with your prayers and good wishes.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 22, 2012, 01:40:22 pm
I regret to advise that it now turns out I am also unable to attend ....   :(

My two year old grandson was taken from Medicine Hat to the Children's Hospital in Calgary yesterday, and last evening was diagnosed with leukemia.  They will be starting him on chemotherapy on Monday.  My wife and I are in Calgary now and for the next several days at least.  Needless to say, I will have other priorities for the foreseeable future.

Please help with your prayers and good wishes.

I am damn sorry to hear this news, Grant!

My prayers for your grandson and the family.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Delmonico on September 22, 2012, 03:14:13 pm
Damn, good thoughts and prayers up from here.  Keep us informed as to how he's doing.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Drydock on September 22, 2012, 09:26:29 pm
Won't be the same without you, Grant.  But family comes first, my prayers are yours.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: pony express on September 22, 2012, 11:10:07 pm
Sorry to hear that! Praying all will be well with your grandson.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Gripmaker on September 23, 2012, 10:07:10 pm
Grant,  So very sorry to hear of this situation with your GRANDson.  I shall also be praying for him. My God is still in the healing business today even as He was back during Bible times and has not stop being since. I shall issue an alert to the GAF constituency to be in prayer for all of the family.

LTC Montgomery Little, Senior Chaplain, GAF
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 24, 2012, 06:24:02 am
Grant,
As has been said I am very sorry to hear this. Your family has been in my prayers since I saw your message earlier and will continue to be until I hear of his healling.

Also as has been said the muster won't be the same without you and we'll miss you. Jacob found another piece of your .303 brass yesterday. I guess I'll just have to wait a while longer to return it.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on September 24, 2012, 12:25:30 pm
Thanks to all for your prayers and encouragement!

Ebin had a "central line" surgically implanted below his collarbone yesterday, from which all blood samples can be taken and through which medications can be administered.  Apparently it will remain in place for as long as 2 1/2 years, throughout his treatment regimen.  Hopefully he can now get over his fear of nurses .... until now whenever one showed up it was most likely to stick a needle into him for one reason or another!

They are starting his first round of chemotherapy today .... The first of four 37-day treatment blocks.  We have been told that an improvement could be apparent as early as the end of this first block, although they would continue with the whole series in any event.  I understand that the recovery rate with the particular type he has is 85-90%.

Don't know how I managed the honor, but I seem to be Ebin's favorite grandparent - no matter who he may be with, when I show up, he has to come to "Papa"  .......   Kinda chokes me up, y,know .....
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Stu Kettle on September 24, 2012, 12:31:04 pm
Hope our prayers increase his odds for a full & speedy recovery.  I'm sure having his Papa nearby helps at least as much as anything those mean old nurses have to offer.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Mustang Gregg on September 25, 2012, 05:40:37 am
Rattlesnake Jack:

Prayers for your grandson.

MG
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on September 27, 2012, 09:42:39 am

  Grant, Heard last night about your Grandson. Sorry you won't be in ks next week but all understand, and wish your family the best. jt
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cowtown Scout on September 27, 2012, 10:01:41 pm
RJ/Grant
I'm sorrry to here you will not be attending the Grand Muster, but I am most sorry to here of your young grandson's illness.  My thoughts are with him and his family.

Trap
Can you please provide us some idea of times for side match events on Friday and main match events on Saturday and Sunday?  Just want to make sure I know when I have to get there for which event.  Also, last year yall posted a map to the event location.  Can you do that again this year?

Scout  
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cactus Rope on September 27, 2012, 11:02:26 pm
Books or Trap

Is anyone going to be at site on Thursday? I am planning on coming up that afternoon.

Thanks,
Bob
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on September 28, 2012, 08:47:03 am
 Fri am - Long range rifle and pistol, Fri pm a short era o exp. side match. We will also allow L. R. rifle Sat am for late arrivals.
  Sat There is one skirmish run to be run by everyone whenever they are ready.
  Same sun, shorter run.
  For a map go to the KVC site on the NCOWS website.

  I plan to arrive thur pm. I imagine that a couple of our other camp diehards will be there thur also.
  Please do not camp north of the south side of the grey cabin.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on September 28, 2012, 10:41:18 am
Books or Trap

Is anyone going to be at site on Thursday? I am planning on coming up that afternoon.

Thanks,
Bob

Bob;

Major C.O. Jones and Windy City Joe will be set up on Wednesday; so a Thursday arrival would be fine.

Books
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 28, 2012, 02:29:25 pm
How many are we expecting total?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on September 28, 2012, 03:45:26 pm
How many are we expecting total?

I am projecting, between 15 and 20.

Books
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on September 29, 2012, 10:50:06 am
Here is a list of the currently registered shooters:

Guns Garrett            Milspec-SS-BP
Mrs. Guns Garrett     Scout-Smokeless
B. Little                   Milspec-SS-Smokeless
Pitspitter                 Infantry-BP
River City John         Militia-BP
L. Little                   Staff Officer-BP
C.O. Jones              Scout-Smokless
Drydock                  Milspec-SS-BP
Cow Town Scout     Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Col. Diamond           Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Stu Kettle               Scout-Smokeless
Poney Express         Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Wooly Dan              Milspec-SS-Smokeless

Respectfully;
Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG  
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 29, 2012, 11:43:58 am
Sorry if I missed the answer, but will a bayonet be necessary? I hope.
RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on September 29, 2012, 12:46:48 pm
Also, is the Infantry Class the only class that shoots rifle only and the Staff Officer class shoots pistol only?
All others shoot rifle and a pistol, including Militia?


RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on September 29, 2012, 01:56:12 pm
Also, is the Infantry Class the only class that shoots rifle only and the Staff Officer class shoots pistol only?
All others shoot rifle and a pistol, including Militia?


RCJ
Yes
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cactus Rope on September 29, 2012, 05:18:22 pm
Thanks Trap and Books

CO and Windy City on Wednesday
Good maybe I'll come up then.

Thanks
Bob
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Gripmaker on September 29, 2012, 10:38:06 pm
Bob,  I concur with your Wednesday arrival plans. It would be nice to have accomodations established before my arrival on Thurs. PM. Yuck! Yuck!

LTC Montgomery Little, Senior Chapalin, GAF
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Trap on October 01, 2012, 09:48:42 am


   SEE TOPIC G M ANNOUNCEMENT
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on October 02, 2012, 10:36:38 am
Here is a list of the currently registered shooters:
(As of 11 Sept. 2012)

Guns Garrett            Milspec-SS-BP
Mrs. Guns Garrett     Scout-Smokeless
B. Little                   Milspec-SS-Smokeless
Pitspitter                 Infantry-BP
River City John         Militia-BP
L. Little                   Staff Officer-BP
C.O. Jones              Scout-Smokless
Drydock                  Milspec-SS-BP
Cow Town Scout     Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Col. Diamond           Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Stu Kettle               Scout-Smokeless
Poney Express         Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless
Wooly Dan              Milspec-SS-Smokeless
D. Frazier                Milspec-Repeater-Smokeless

Respectfully;
Michael "Books" Tatham
AAAG 
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Cowtown Scout on October 02, 2012, 10:18:31 pm
Books I don't see your name on that list.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on October 03, 2012, 03:10:23 am
I'm betting that Trap, Books, Windy City Joe, and probably a few others, are late to the party.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 03, 2012, 08:36:28 am
I really wish I could make this event, but we are getting ready for the NCOWS SW Regional/Joe Berger Memorial at Greenville and this weekend is our last work day before the event.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Books OToole on October 03, 2012, 10:21:15 am
Books I don't see your name on that list.

I'll be there; I just have not put my money in the envelope, yet.  (I'm waiting for pay day.)

Trap has had expenses and he is going to make me do algebra to figure whether the envelope owes him or he owes the envelope.
It is always interesting running a match.

Books
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 03, 2012, 11:06:33 am
Trap has had expenses and he is going to make me do algebra to figure whether the envelope owes him or he owes the envelope.
It is always interesting running a match.
Been there, done that!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Dusty Tagalon on October 19, 2012, 01:27:39 am
I wish I could have attended, but I guess this years muster was never to be. I did end up with the time off, started FMLA care giver on 9/24, my mother passed on 10/2. So even if granted the time off, I would have canceled the trip.

Brian
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 19, 2012, 06:10:04 am
my mother passed on 10/2.

I'm really sorry to hear that Brian. I'll be praying for you and your family.

We wish you could have been there too.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Niederlander on October 19, 2012, 06:25:15 am
Sorry to hear about your Mom, Brian. 
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: River City John on October 19, 2012, 03:54:25 pm
Brian, I am sorry to hear your sad news. At least you were able to get FMLA and be a blessing during your Mom's final days.

Only time will help lessen the loss, and your Mom's spirit will always be there.

RCJ
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 22, 2012, 07:37:35 pm
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Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pony Racer on October 23, 2012, 07:59:15 pm
Nice pics! Thanks for posting!

PR
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: G.W. Strong on October 23, 2012, 09:43:58 pm
Jerry, Your pictures are inspiring to me. The level of detail and authenticity is wonderful. I love the big floppy '72 hat. It is spectacular! You don't see those too often. I've thought about getting one of those and the 1872 pleated blouse. Man that would be a goofy uniform. Very specific to a short period of time. Put on a Palmer brace system an you could have the most unpopular uniform of all time!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 24, 2012, 06:28:22 am
Thanks HS
 I've spent nearly 20 years researching the men and equipment at Fort Hartsuff. (One of my jobs there when I worked there was teaching guests about the men, material, and equipment of the time) I don't have the '72 blouse, but have been considering having one made. I do have a plamer brace though. I wore it with my dress uniform Saturday night. When you come out next summer I can drag all my stuff out again and let you look at it all if you want.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: G.W. Strong on October 24, 2012, 08:01:11 am
Thanks HS
 I've spent nearly 20 years researching the men and equipment at Fort Hartsuff. (One of my jobs there when I worked there was teaching guests about the men, material, and equipment of the time) I don't have the '72 blouse, but have been considering having one made. I do have a plamer brace though. I wore it with my dress uniform Saturday night. When you come out next summer I can drag all my stuff out again and let you look at it all if you want.
I would very much like to see the '72 gear next summer.
Do you know a source for the pleated blouse? how about the '72 hat?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 24, 2012, 08:38:54 pm
I just got to see the pix today (Thanks Windy City Joe!!!) Wow, I really didn't realize that d***ed blouse shrunk so bad in the closet.  :-\

Actually the only M-'72 equipment I have is the campaign hat and the shoes. (The boots I'm wearing with the field uniform are the M-1876) Most of my uniform and equipment is M-1874

The only museum quality repro of the M-1872 blouse was Connie Lindmeier from South Pass WY., but to the best of my knowledge she has ended production. The Quartemaster Shop (and others) do make a copy, you even see one on e-bay once in a while.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: G.W. Strong on October 24, 2012, 10:17:03 pm
I think I need to start looking.

I have most of the hardware here for the Palmer brace system. I thought I might cast up a few sets of the brasses.

Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2012, 06:14:46 am
I thought I might cast up a few sets of the brasses.

You cast brass items?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: G.W. Strong on October 25, 2012, 07:05:03 am
You cast brass items?

Yes. Nothing overly large or complex. I make buttons, buckles, belt parts and other items for my business.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 25, 2012, 08:10:59 am
What is the Palmer Brace System?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2012, 08:28:53 am
Think ALICE suspenders only made from leather and connecting only on the front of the body. The back straps connected to the haversack and clothing bag.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 25, 2012, 10:35:42 am
Nice, that way the haversack and sleeping roll could bang you in the kidneys all day long.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2012, 11:51:47 am
Sort of. They sort of hang under your arm because the other end of the strap hooks to the front. The blanket roll is higher, about your shoulder blades. My expirience with them is unusual because they weren't made for guys my size.

But, Yep, they were very unpopular and basically not used except when some officer made you.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img805/3636/palmerbrace3.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/9979/palmerbrace2.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on October 25, 2012, 12:28:44 pm
Good Grief .... and I thought some British Empire equipment was bad!   ::)

Gentlemen:  Your "Best Wishes" arrived in the mail yesterday, and are heartily appreciated!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2012, 12:53:32 pm
We'd have liked to have been able to offer them in person, but this was the next best thing.

How's you little trooper doing?
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on October 25, 2012, 01:40:51 pm
Trooper Ebin seems to be doing fairly well.  The chemo is taking its toll on him a bit and, because of a localized infection, they had to remove the "central line" surgically implanted in chest, through which intravenous medications were to be administered and blood samples taken, on an ongoing basis.  Of course, he was receiving regular antibiotics because of his seriously compromised immune system (resulting both from the leukemia and the chemotherapy.)  But they are giving an oral antibiotic which seems to be doing the job.  It is my understanding that they will try to install another central line in due course, as his initial regimen of treatments is scheduled to continue into February.

Treatment seems to be having a positive effect already - for example, his level of "normal (as opposed to cancerous, and thus ineffective) blood platelets had dropped as low as 12 - normal is 150 to 200 - but has now climbed back to 140.   :)

He has a long campaign ahead of him yet, however, so continued thoughts and prayers will be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Pitspitr on October 25, 2012, 02:11:48 pm
He has a long campaign ahead of him yet, however, so continued thoughts and prayers will be greatly appreciated!
He gets mine every morning and anytime I think of it in between.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 25, 2012, 02:45:53 pm
He gets mine every morning and anytime I think of it in between.
Same here.
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Niederlander on October 25, 2012, 04:30:26 pm
That makes three of us, at the least!
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: RattlesnakeJack on October 25, 2012, 04:42:30 pm
I'd say it's helping!   ;D
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: G.W. Strong on October 25, 2012, 08:22:51 pm
That makes three of us, at the least!

At least four
Title: Re: 2012 GAF Grand Muster: Garnett KS
Post by: Bull Schmitt on October 26, 2012, 06:28:07 pm
Prayers are continuing!