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Title: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 24, 2011, 10:07:18 AM
Howdy Pards
Hunting season is almost here . Hope everyone can get some pictures and tell everyone about their Hunt .I have been working with my 44wcf and it's ready .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on September 25, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
Circa 1875 in northern Michigan hunting out of "Camp Erwin"
From the book: Legendary Deer Camps

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/JohnIrwin1878.jpg)

"Most hunters that hung out at deer camp Erwin used the Model 1873 Winchester in .44 W.C.F. (44-40)......" 
 

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on September 25, 2011, 09:32:59 AM
I wonder how many of these deer were harvested with the 1873 Winchester?
I'll bet 80+%.

From the book: Legendary Deer Camps

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/late1800s.jpg)

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 28, 2011, 10:49:04 AM
Howdy
 What is your pet load that you plan on hunting with . Will you be shooting black or smokeless ? And what caliber is your 1873 ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on September 29, 2011, 09:46:17 AM
Rowdy Fulcher,

I like stepping back in time so I plan on using 40 grs of SWISS FFG with a 200 gr. cast bullet in original W.R.A. CO. 44 W.C.F. cases (see avatar)..... similar to the ammunition that John Irwin used in his '73.....back in the 1870's...... ;D

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 01, 2011, 02:32:15 AM
W44WCF
I know what you mean . I am going to our Hunting Cabin tomorrow and camp for the night and yes I will take my 73 and my USFA prewar . I love shooting both . The 44wcf is a excellent round in rifle or pistol . And I will have a GOOD time setting around the campfire thinking about that BIG Buck we all want to get . Will work in a little plinking session over the weekend . Will finish off the last batch of jerky over the weekend .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2011, 05:26:23 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to slip away to the cabin and shoot . I shot at 110 yards to see how much drop my bullet would have . I was impressed to see hope the bullet had enough energy to make small dimples in the soft steel target . I shot at 50 yards and it was smacking steel with authority . I was a little concerned about using the 44wcf but after this weekend I feel it will do an Excellent job in it's Range .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 15, 2011, 12:08:47 PM
Howdy
 Deer season is here . Hope everyone has a safe and successful Hunt . Post your pictures , we want to see what you got big or small .
                    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 16, 2011, 08:54:39 AM
Rowdy I'll be using two rifles this season. One is the '76 I reworked and turned and shortened the BBL in 45/75, and the other back-up is my '86 Browning in 45/70 (that one will digest some hotter loads) Hopefully I'll be able to post some nice buck pics, as we've been seeing some nice ones during bow hunting this year. Good luck during your hunt!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 20, 2011, 08:36:32 PM
Dirty Brass
This year I have been using my 1873 . During Muzzle loader season I had a Big Bobcat at about 20 yards , but we have a season and it wasn't in then . Now we can take a Bobcat so I am waiting for him to come back . I was bored the other day while sitting in my stand so when a coyote came through at a fast pace I had to give him a try . And ole Willey Coyote was fast enough to not get hit .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 25, 2011, 09:20:15 PM
Howdy
Still no Deer , but I got a coyote today . He was about 55 yards and the 44wcf did a heck of a job . Tomorrow will be the last day I will be able to Hunt , wish me Luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on November 26, 2011, 08:42:26 AM
 
Still no Deer , but I got a coyote today . He was about 55 yards and the 44wcf did a heck of a job . Tomorrow will be the last day I will be able to Hunt , wish me Luck .

Rowdy,
Nice job on that coyote! ;D  We need less of them around.  Hope you are succesful on your venison quest.

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 27, 2011, 10:13:08 AM
Rowdy:

We're breathlessly waiting for the hunting report.  With no update, I'm assuming no good news?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 27, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
Howdy
Nothing moving today . So Deer season is over for Rifle season . Muzzle loader season will come in the 2nd Saturday of December .
Maybe next year for my 1873 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rafe Covington on November 27, 2011, 01:06:12 PM
Congrats on getting the coyote, nice shooting.  8)

Rafe
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 30, 2011, 12:54:17 PM
We had little luck this season, but i managed to get this spike buck opening day with the modified '76 in 45/75. About 60 yards away, and walking slowly and carefully. I consider myself fortunate  ;) May try the T-zone hunt on the 8th - 10th, but it's doe only that weekend. Didn't stick around for the ML hunt as we saw very few deer for the 9 day gun season.

Congrats on the coyote Rowdy!

(http://home.roadrunner.com/~tlcguns/newpics/spikebuck45_75.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 30, 2011, 05:36:19 PM
Dirty Brass
Fine looking Buck . Glad you was able to use your 1876 . How much Jerky are you going to make ? Congratulations on a fine kill .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 01, 2011, 10:03:22 AM
Not making any jerky this year. Grinding everything into hamburger and seasoning it "Italian" style for chili, burgers, and spaghetti. Back steaks of course are separate for grilling and frying. Not much left of the shoulders for use.

I really enjoy the 45/75 as it is modified, but I'm leaning on using the '73 in 44/40 next time, or the 45/60 '76. Gotta spread the wealth around you know!  ;D My only fear is seeing a 10 pointer 250 yards off and no scoped rifle for these old eyes (chuckle).

Continued success to all you folks still hunting!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 10, 2011, 06:33:42 PM
Dirty Brass
 Are you going to shoot black or smokeless next year in your 73 ? I plan on working on a black powder load if the Black Dawge doesn't work out . I really enjoy working with the 1873 in 44wcf .The new short rifle needs a .429 dia bullet my old half round shoots .427 imagine that ? Why can't they all take the same bullet ?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on December 15, 2011, 12:46:19 PM
..........I plan on working on a black powder load if the Black Dawge doesn't work out . I really enjoy working with the 1873 in 44wcf .The new short rifle needs a .429 dia bullet my old half round shoots .427 imagine that ? Why can't they all take the same bullet ?  

Rowdy,
They can if one prepares b.p. ammunition like it was manufactured back when Winchester was making '73's.  
In other words, a soft lead bullet of .426 - .427" diameter over a quality black powder.

Prior to the mid 1890's when smokeless powder and metal patched (jacketed) bullets made their appearance bore / groove dimensions varied widely according to George Madis, who wrote the Winchester Book (my '73 made in 1882 has a .433" groove diameter. I have heard of some being as large as .435".).  George told me that Winchester knew that their b.p. ammunition would shoot accurately in barrels of varying diameter so didn't correct the situation.

That changed in the mid 1890's because smokeless powdered ammunition did not shoot so well in larger barrels.

Today, handloaded replications of early Winchester b.p. ammunition shoots well in my rifle's oversized bore. Black powder bumps up the undersized .427" diameter soft lead bullet to fill the bore just like the original ammunition did 100+ years ago......

I Took my gun for a walk a few times this year but didn't see anything legal. The magazine contained black powder ammunition assembled to replicate that vintage ammunition of yesteryear.

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Leverguns/188273a.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/Leverguns/188273.jpg)

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 15, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
Dirty Brass
 Are you going to shoot black or smokeless next year in your 73 ? I plan on working on a black powder load if the Black Dawge doesn't work out . I really enjoy working with the 1873 in 44wcf .The new short rifle needs a .429 dia bullet my old half round shoots .427 imagine that ? Why can't they all take the same bullet ?  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I'm going to have to look back at my notes when I get time. I was shooting smokeless and Pyrodex RS mostly, with some T7 loads thrown in just for comparison . IIRC, the smokeless were giving the best accuracy for my gun, but I didn't play with the loads much, as I was concentrating on the 45/60 and 45/75 at that time. I'm sure I'll have something worked up this summer. I really like the '66 better than the '73, but both are 44/40, so one load might work for both. Time will tell........
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 18, 2011, 08:08:02 PM
Dirty Brass
Have you worked with KIK powder ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 19, 2011, 11:03:12 AM
I have never used KIK Rowdy - sorry. It sounds like a quality powder from what I have read on it though....
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 22, 2011, 02:38:46 AM
Dirty Brass
I talked to Jerry at Powder Inc. about a Vintage Hunting round . I told him we were wanting to recreate the original Winchester load .We talked about using KIK powder and I am pushing for this , wish me luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 22, 2011, 08:37:15 AM
Dirty Brass
I talked to Jerry at Powder Inc. about a Vintage Hunting round . I told him we were wanting to recreate the original Winchester load .We talked about using KIK powder and I am pushing for this , wish me luck .

Sounds interesting - I look forward to seeing what develops. Good luck getting this worked through.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2012, 02:04:43 PM
Dirty Brass
Guess what ammo I will be Coyote hunting with ?????  ;D ;D ;D That's right .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 26, 2012, 07:52:34 PM
Texans
Are yawl allowed to Turkey Hunt with a Rifle ??? I would love to take a Tom with my 1873 ( legally ) . Hum smoked Turkey .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 08, 2012, 08:01:09 PM
Howdy
Turkey season is over ( shotgun only ) .  so will be hunting coyotes and ground hogs this summer . Looks like I may have plenty of time for Hunting . We got a 60 day notice that our Coal Mine is shutting down . Back to the soup line .  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on May 09, 2012, 01:25:14 AM
Sorry to hear that Rowdy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 10, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
MJN77
Thanks ,  I just hate job hunting . But that's life . Looks like I will have a little free time , plan on a few Video's . Would love to put a Vintage Hunting Video together . A Black Bear Hunt would be a dream come true .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on May 10, 2012, 07:49:04 PM
Quote
A Black Bear Hunt would be a dream come true
I would like to see that.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 09, 2012, 08:45:39 AM
mjn77
To take a Black Bear with a 1873 using black powder ammo , that would be the ULTIMATE HUNT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on June 09, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
mjn77
To take a Black Bear with a 1873 using black powder ammo , that would be the ULTIMATE HUNT .

Yes sir, it would. We have black bears around here.  My mother has had them walk up onto her back porch a few times, and I have seen their tracks when out checking on my cattle. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 16, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
Howdy
Today is smoking Hot   . Decided to start planning on the upcoming Hunting season . We try to always have a Deer camp which is a lot of Fun . Between the hunting ,the eating ,and the camping , well that's  as good as life gets . The camp cook is always looking for new recipes for his Dutch oven . And he always delivers excellent food . I will use my half octagon rifle it shoots the best group for me . And will carry my 5 1/2 USFA in 44wcf for back up or actually if I get one up close I enjoy using my pistol . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: hammer1 on July 02, 2012, 08:49:34 AM
Rowdy, If you dont mind me askin, where are you from ,sir? talkin about a coal mine closed, I have kin all over PA. Was born there, in Johnstown. Have family in, Ebensburg, Southfork, Altoona, and a few others. My uncle was killed in the Somerset mine back in 84, and my granddad worked in the mines there for over 40 years.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 02, 2012, 12:19:59 PM
Hammer
I live in Kentucky . I worked for Patriot Coal at there Freedom Mine . Hope to get on at there Highland Mine which is 4 miles from my door step .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 17, 2012, 05:30:51 PM
Howdy
Today has been a Hot one . Went shooting earlier and that was Hot . Tried the Reloader 7 and it was ok . I prefer the smokey loads .   The Swiss is my favorite , and if for some reason I run out of those will work with the T7 . I loaded up a few rounds with T7 today , plan on shooting tomorrow . If I can get it to shoot 20 rounds consistently that is the plan .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 10, 2012, 10:59:57 AM
Howdy
Today the weather is Great . Sunshine and cooler temps . It's time to finalize the load selection for the up coming Deer season . I have my loads  down to 2 different loads . And yes Swiss is one of them . I can't wait for Rifle season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on September 10, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
Well, I'm having a hard time waiting as well. Our season doesn't start until mid-November. I'll be practicing offhand shooting between now and then with my '73 44 WCF.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 17, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
KirkD
Today was a rainy cooler day , really makes you think about Hunting season . I hope my ammo is on the next UPS truck . I plan on shooting ammo loaded with Swiss . But if for some strange reason that doesn't happen I have a back up plan . I can legally take 4 Deer with my 1873 . So naturally I want to take them with Black Powder Ammo . And yes I have been practicing shooting off hand .
Rule of thumb ,What ever direction you anticipate the Deer to come from they will probably come from the other . So it's a good idea to practice shooting from your weak side also .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on September 17, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Rowdy, I casted up over 300 bullets for my old '73 today. Now to get them loaded up and out to the range on a weekly basis until hunting season. I used to hunt Snowshoe Hares every day in the winter time. I eventually got used to all sorts of contortions to get the shot. Trouble is now the ol' neck doesn't twist around 360 degrees anymore.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 09:36:53 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to check on my Deer stands . They are still there , will move one to another area on Farm . The drought has been tough on the mass crop . The swamp is all dried up , never thought it would look like that . At least the skitters aren't to bad . Might try to slip in there and call a coyote up . We camped the other night and those ole song dogs were making all kinds of noise .
It sounded like there was 50+ coyotes but when it gets daylight they disappear . The next day all you can find is tracks and crap . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on September 23, 2012, 07:20:53 AM
Howdy
Got a chance to check on my Deer stands . They are still there , will move one to another area on Farm . The drought has been tough on the mass crop . The swamp is all dried up , never thought it would look like that . At least the skitters aren't to bad . Might try to slip in there and call a coyote up . We camped the other night and those ole song dogs were making all kinds of noise .
It sounded like there was 50+ coyotes but when it gets daylight they disappear . The next day all you can find is tracks and crap . 
If you can imitate a wounded rabbit, they'll come a-runnin'. There's too many of them around here. They are decimating the fawns.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on September 24, 2012, 06:50:31 PM
Wounded rabbit works ,Lost pup works good late summer ,wounded bird works all yr . Take it from a Texan who has put many song dog in the happy hunting ground . You can fool them once or twice after that the are educated . Prob. the smartest animal you can hunt . Dusty .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 27, 2012, 09:03:35 AM
Dusty
Ole Wiley Coyote is about as smart of a critter as you can hunt . If you can get them into range the 44wcf is a different way to hunt . Last Deer season I was hunting and a Coyote came slipping through the woods ,the old 44wcf laid him to rest . Sure do wish I had got a picture of him .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 02, 2012, 10:19:55 AM
Dusty
I broke down and purchased a electronic caller last winter . Looks like I will get to use it this year .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on October 02, 2012, 03:06:43 PM
Hope you put a spanking on them song dogs Rowdy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on October 02, 2012, 03:12:31 PM
I ordered that 2ff Swiss from Powder Inc. Waiting on it to get here . Got a bunch of bullets cast lubed,and ready . Hope that load works good . Decided to hunt only with my 45-75wcf 76,and my C.Sharps this season. Have not been this excited to hunt in yrs. Brings back the fun. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 02, 2012, 08:18:51 PM
Dusty
I know that feeling , I have been working with my 1873's and  plan  on SLAUGHTERING the Deer at the farm . I have a new Short Rifle and it needs a .429 bullet . My old faithful uses a . 427 and what I don't understand  , they are both Uberti's . I plan on filling my tags this year , I like jerky and the sausage sticks . And how could you not like the Tenderloin or Steaks .
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 05, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
Howdy
Got out there yesterday and tried the .429 , .430 with Swiss BP . The short rifle shot  much better .  There was one group at 50 yards I could cover with a quarter . But what really amazes me is the cleanliness of Swiss powder . When you can shot 30 rounds and look down the barrel and still see all your rifling .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 07, 2012, 07:43:23 PM
Howdy
 Well I found out the 2 Uberti 1873 rifles I own have a .429 bore . I slugged them tonight . Plan on shooting them this week at 100 yards .I am guessing the .430 will produce the best groups ??? BUT the half round barrel has always shot good with .427 ?? And that was with smokeless loads , will figure out this week .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: pony express on October 07, 2012, 08:56:59 PM
Dusty
I broke down and purchased a electronic caller last winter . Looks like I will get to use it this year .

Using electronics to get coyotes close enough to shoot with BP??? :o
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 07, 2012, 10:35:40 PM
Howdy Pony Express
If you have a better way I'm all ears .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 12, 2012, 01:12:28 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to shoot the different powder charges and different bullet dia . The .430 did ok but overall the 429 looks to be my choice as best performing . Testing is still going on but close to finished . Having a Premium ammo is what the Vintage Hunter needs . Just because a Hunter decides to use black he shouldn't be at a hunting disadvantage .Now that Swiss has the standard to go by , maybe the rest of the Powder Companies will follow suit with clean burning powder that can achieve the Velocities as the Original Winchester loads ? 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 14, 2012, 06:06:34 PM
Howdy
Rifle season  is only weeks away . I plan on taking 3 Deer this year . That way I will have plenty of jerky meat . And several Steaks for the year . I plan on using my 73 and maybe my 76 . I have killed Deer with my 76 , but this will be the year for my 73 in 44wcf
a few years ago I used my 66 carbine in 45 colt to harvest a nice Doe . The 45 colt did a good job ,but it's time for the 44wcf to step up . The nice thing about being a Cowboy Shooter and a Vintage Hunter is they cross over . You own the Guns ,clothes and ammo . Now to put them all together and have a safe Hunt . Life is one big Adventure enjoy them one day at a time .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on October 15, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
I had been planning on using my original '73 44 WCF for deer hunting next month, but due to the conditions I'll be hunting in, I'm thinking of taking my original Winchester 1895 38-72 instead. Next year, I'll be hunting at a different location where the risk to my pretty high condition '73 is not so great. I feel kind of bad about this because I am all in a lather to harvest a Whitetail Deer with my old 44.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 17, 2012, 10:15:50 AM
KirkD
Good luck with your 95 , Hope you get a nice Deer . We want to see pictures if you kill anything .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 19, 2012, 11:03:43 AM
Howdy
Well the UPS truck ran yesterday . I have a couple more samples of Vintage ammo to try . They are loaded with .429 bullets , and 2 different powder charges . Tomorrow is opening day of Muzzle loader season so will spend the next 2 days Hunting . Oh and today is raining so probably won't get a chance to shoot today . But the weather forecast for Monday is dry and 70 degree's .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 22, 2012, 04:17:18 PM
Howdy
The weather was warm and dry , but WINDY . I shot both loads at 50 yards . Both shot ok but I need a better day to get a true test .Will have to use my 1873 44wcf to harvest does this fall . I used my Buck tag Saturday on a Muzzle loader Hunt . He was a nice 8 point .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on October 22, 2012, 06:48:47 PM
I't will be interesting to see how the different ammo compares in the accuracy department.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2012, 08:38:27 PM
Howdy
Was able to shoot the samples of the Vintage Hunting Ammo . Was working with the Swiss 3f powder using 33.5 grains and 34.0 grains . The bullets were a.429 diameter , shooting was done out to 90 yards . The 33.5 gave the best results today . The Vintage ammo is back on with Powder Inc.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2012, 11:41:10 AM
Howdy
Rifle season is a week and a half away . Plan on using my 73 to harvest a Doe or 2 . I have all my plans worked out . Today I'm fixing Jerky and can't wait to sample a piece or 2 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
Howdy
Well the Jerky turned out Excellent . The ammo is ready for this coming Saturday .  You just can't beat Swiss powder . A 1873 and Vintage 44wcf ammo , this will be a great hunt . Good luck and be safe , and don't forget to take pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 09, 2012, 12:06:35 PM
Howdy
Plan on departing in about an hour . Can't wait to arrive at our hunting cabin . I like sitting around the fire at night , having a nip of Whiskey, and talking about the next days hunt . Wish everyone a safe and successful Deer season . Happy Hunting
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 10, 2012, 04:51:55 PM
Yep, the evenings are always very enjoyable at the end of the day in the bush. I'm starting my hunt in just over a week.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 11, 2012, 10:57:39 PM
Howdy
Life's funny , I am Hunting for does and all I see is Buck's . Wish I had a pocket full of Buck tags .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 14, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
Wildman
Good luck on your hunt , hope you can keep those toes and fingers warm . The weather has cooled down so will be headed out tonight or in the morning ? Have been thinking about where the Does are ?The plan is to take a nice 90 pound doe , excellent meat between the Buck and a Doe that should hold me the year . Now this Spring I would like a Hog and a couple Turkeys but that's another season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 18, 2012, 03:48:04 PM
Howdy
No doe yet . Saw several Bucks and a few Does , but it just didn't work out for a shot . Times a ticking away .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Deadeye Dick on November 18, 2012, 06:29:52 PM
Howdy
No doe yet . Saw several Bucks and a few Does , but it just didn't work out for a shot . Times a ticking away .
Rowdy, that's about par for the course. Bucks around in doe season and does around in buck season.  :P
Good luck on getting you doe.
Deadeye Dick
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 22, 2012, 11:38:03 AM
Howdy
This weekend will wrap up modern Rifle season . Plan on Hunting Tomorrow , hope to take a Doe with my 73 in 44wcf . HOPEFULLY the weather change will get them to moving . Time will tell .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 28, 2012, 10:24:32 AM
Howdy
Well Modern rifle season is over , and I didn't get a Doe with my 1873 . My next big project is to take a coyote with my 73 . I got one last year with my 1873 , but didn't take a picture . That was STUPID but I do carry the camera on all Hunts now .

Pony Express
I decided if I'm Vintage Hunting I will leave the Electric caller at home . I have Plenty of wooden mouth calls wanting to be used .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 07, 2012, 10:57:09 AM
Howdy
 Rifle season for Deer is over . So will try my hand at Coyote Hunting after Muzzle loader season . I have 2 73 rifles both are 44wcf ,but I recently installed a scope on the short rifle . Wonder what the chances of taking a coyote with a 73 at 300 yards ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on December 09, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
You might need a couple ranging shots at 300 yards. I've shot my 73 at 200 yards and you could certainly nail a Coyote at that range.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on December 10, 2012, 07:22:41 AM
Howdy Rowdy. Have you test fired that short rifle with the scope yet. If so how did it do. What scope and mount did you use ?Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 11, 2012, 03:04:26 PM
Dusty
The scope is a 3 power . I got it from Powder Inc. After Muzzle Loader season I plan on working with it . I have shot it about 20 rounds ,but they were smokeless . Wanted to see how the scope worked before I used  my BP ammo . The short rifle with the 17 inch scope is pretty awesome looking .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on December 11, 2012, 03:14:04 PM
Sounds cool. Like to see a pic. of it.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on December 11, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
Been thinking about getting me a short rifle in a Henry ,1866 uberti or 1873 uberti cant decide . Would make a great Jeep gun for off season at the ranch.Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 14, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
Dusty
A short rifle or carbine , both a great Jeep guns . I had a yellow boy carbine in 45 colt . Why did I trade it off ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 20, 2012, 01:14:37 PM
Howdy
Coyotes and Bobcats are in season . Hope to get  a Coyote .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 10, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
Howdy
Yesterday I did a little Coyote hunting ,no coyotes . But on the way up to the cabin we saw afield with a 100+ Turkeys . What really aggravated me was they were close to the road  and where was my camera , at home .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 25, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
Dusty
Watched a video on how to skin a rattler . Looks pretty easy . I  was hoping after I win the Lotto we could go on that big Hunt . And if we start down in Texas I would need to know how to clean a rattler . I figured we would get tired of Mt. Lion and rice .
Do you have a good recipe for rattler .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Deadeye Dick on January 25, 2013, 11:46:31 PM
 Any rattler I ever skinned, smelled so bad that there was no way I would ever eat one!  :-\
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 26, 2013, 06:21:06 PM
Deadeye
Don't know about rattlers but Coyotes are smelly critters . Years ago I killed a coyote with a pistol ( Ruger Vaquero in 45 colt ) I was real proud of that kill . I was working third shift at the time so I stuck it in a trash bag then threw it in the Bronco on my way to work . The next morning after work I opened the door to my Bronco What a stink . I drove as fast as I could to deliver that stinky thing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Deadeye Dick on January 27, 2013, 01:02:54 PM
Rowdy,
I hear ya. The few coyotes I've skinned were okay smelling, but I'm sure if they were left in an enclosed place overnight they would be kinda smelly. Hope the stink didn't last too long in your Bronco.
I was planning to cook the snakes I skinned, but backed out of it after I smelled them. They say (whoever they is) that snakes can be very tasty. I would hope the smell would leave them upon cooking, I just couldn't bring myself to try.
Deadeye Dick
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 28, 2013, 12:56:39 PM
Deadeye
Well the smell lasted a few days . But that was several years ago . I loved that old Bronco , but it loved gas . That's why it's gone .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Space Cowboy on February 05, 2013, 12:24:38 PM
I stalked these roe deers with the 44-40 1873 on my shoulder to 20 meters (cartridge loaded with 35 gr 3fg swiss + a 240 grain Lyman bullet). They were so peaceful I chose not to shoot. But I had my camera with me:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ejG2RkfWpw&list=UUefQw7bLRPKSG-qx9dJroew&index=3[/youtube]
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 06, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
Space Cowboy
Looks like they were busy browsing . They were out for supper . Thanks for posting , I always like hunting in the snow .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Space Cowboy on February 09, 2013, 02:04:14 PM
Space Cowboy
Looks like they were busy browsing . They were out for supper . Thanks for posting , I always like hunting in the snow .

Hi Rowdy,

Me too. A winter hunt without snow is like ... :)

SC
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 09, 2013, 08:18:36 PM
Space Cowboy
Hunting in the Snow . Makes me think about White Buffalo ( movie) . Our Jeremiah Johnson  both good movies . I guess the East Coast would  have Excellent hunting this weekend . I heard they have 2 feet in some places .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Space Cowboy on February 10, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
Space Cowboy
Hunting in the Snow . Makes me think about White Buffalo ( movie) . Our Jeremiah Johnson  both good movies . I guess the East Coast would  have Excellent hunting this weekend . I heard they have 2 feet in some places .

It is snowing here as well. We have about 15 cm since the mornig. I made an artificial blood trail in the morning for my dog to practice, and when I took her out in the afternoon to do the practice, the trail was already covered with 10 cm of snow. It was beautiful to see how she was digging out the blood drops weith her nose. Made me feel bad I left my 1873 at home. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 12, 2013, 04:22:34 PM
Space Cowboy
Have you taken any Wild Boars with your 73 ? If you have any pictures please post we all love pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on February 13, 2013, 07:41:15 AM
SC,
Thank you for posting that video. Neat! ;D

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 15, 2013, 09:51:55 AM
W44wcf
Have you got a chance to do any shooting lately ? I've been dreaming about going to Texas and killing a Mt. Lion with my 73 in 44wcf .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 16, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Howdy
Recently was at a Gun shop looking at a 1873 carbine . The carbine was in 45 colt which would be great to pair up with my pistol . Now what can I trade for it ? I hate tough decisions .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on February 17, 2013, 12:29:39 PM
Rowdy,
About 2 weeks ago when it warmed up into the low 40's for a day or so, I took some black powder handloads to the range for testing.   Bullets were 427098 and 43-215C and made from pure lead, 99/1 and 50/1 alloys.  I was trying to find out what the accuracy would be in my original '73's oversized bore (.435" average) with standard sized bullets (.427 & .429).  All shot pretty well at 25 yards.  ;D

On the next decent day, i will test at 50 and 100 yards to see if the accuracy still holds well......

w44wcf
Title: successful hunter from yesteryear
Post by: w44wcf on February 19, 2013, 07:09:32 AM
Venison harvested with 44-40's....

From the book: Legendary Deer Camps


(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o25/w30wcf/CampIrwin1878.jpg)

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on February 19, 2013, 08:28:39 AM
I do wish I could have been around for that kind of hunting. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 20, 2013, 08:24:58 AM
W44wcf
Thanks for posting the Picture . Imagine what it would be like to have the large woods of the 1800's . Our woods in Kentucky are shrinking , it seems the farmers are at war with trees . The small woods we used to hunt are now just  cropland . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 26, 2013, 05:59:43 AM
Howdy
Who's planning on using there 1873 Rifle to Turkey Hunt with ? In Kentucky it's illegal to Turkey hunt with a rifle . So I will have to break out the ole Double barrel .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 02, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
Howdy
I have lost a picture of a Vintage Turkey Hunter . I found a picture of a Hunter with a couple Turkeys across his back and he had a 73 in his hand . The picture was in the NWTF magazine . The picture was from the 1890 ( my guess ) but was a neat old picture .
If I could find was wanting to post the picture here .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 23, 2013, 09:05:48 PM
Howdy
Has anyone been out shooting lately ? Hope to get out and shoot a few rounds . My rifles are needing the dust blown out of them . After Turkey season is over plan on trying for coyotes and maybe a ground hog or two .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on April 25, 2013, 07:16:50 AM
Rowdy,
I was finally able to go to the range on Tuesday. The weather was very nice for a change with temps in the 60's. Nary a cloud in sight. ;D 

I was testing some factory 44-40 cartridges for accuracy and velocity (Magtech 225 gr and Winchester 200 gr jacketed) and will be adding the results to the original tests with the other factory cartridges evaluated late last year.   Both shot very well.

In addition, I tested some vintage .44-40 smokeless rounds containing DuPont No. 2 & Hazard No. 2 bulk smokeless and they were steady in their performance, turning in excellent groups and good velocities. Too bad that nothing like them is available today.

Finally, I tested some 240 gr. bullets with Swiss b.p. (Lyman 429667) and they shot / grouped well.

All in all....a very fuunnn day!

w44wcf   
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 28, 2013, 02:53:55 PM
W44wcf
Sounds like you have been busy figuring out loading data . Sounds like the DuPont no2 is a hotter version of the Trail Boss . Wish we could find it now . I guess I really need to say that I wished they produced that powder now . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 04, 2013, 12:59:16 PM
Howdy
Being a GOOD American today I went to shoot my 73 rifle . That's my fire works . I sat my chronograph up and tried a few loads over it . I shot a load of Triple 7 over it and they were what I call good velocities . They averaged 1320 fps , now to put them on paper and see what happens . I also tried a load using h4227 and not to bad they averaged 1250 fps . I tried a few loads with Trail Boss and they were at 1000 fps , fun to plink with but not a hunting round . Now is the perfect time to work with your weapon , be ready for opening day of season . Remember one shot one kill .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on July 17, 2013, 08:08:17 PM
I bought some standard pressure loads with 200 grain speer hollowpoints.  Anyone used those for deer hunting?

I am planning on using 255 lead over a stout BP load for hogs.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on July 18, 2013, 12:37:13 PM
Mean Bob Mean,have not used the 200 gr. hp.But have shot hog with the 255 gr. lead in .45 Colt , out of a 4-3/4 in barrel ,with fullcase of 3fff Goex,range was about 65 yd. It only took one shot,the hog was about 140 lb. and standing broadside feeding. Bullet entered in the shoulder ,knocked him down, passed through, he recovered ran about 15yd. nose plowed into the dirt Mighty DEAD . Out of your 73 that type load should Knock em silly. Good Huntin......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 20, 2013, 05:03:20 PM
Howdy
Now is the time to start planning that Big Hunt this fall . And now is the perfect time to work on that perfect load IF you don't have it already . What is your favorite hunting load for your 73 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on July 20, 2013, 08:40:16 PM
Well I am still learning here so no short A1 answer, but I have one that I know is good to go and another I wish to test out this fall.  The one I plan on using this fall is 35.2 gr by weight of Swiss ffg, compressed and a 200 gr. bullet. (44-40) About 1295fps.  The 1973 SRC I am loading for has been a far easier project vs. the Marlin 1984 44-40 I was working with last summer.   I enjoy hunting with the vintage firearms.    Good luck on your hunt and hope to see some photos of a harvest.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 25, 2013, 08:48:30 PM
D-Hansen
Welcome to the Vintage Hunters . We love the old weapons and we love to Hunt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on July 25, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
Thanks for the welcome Rowdy.   For years I was using a 1894 Winchester SRC in .32ws from 1927,  then two years ago started using a Marlin 1894 in 44-40 made in 1895.   I have a great time hunting with the vintage firearms, last year other hunters (who had spent range time with me)  said they knew it was me that shot from the sound of the report from my 44-40.  (connected with a nice six point buck)  It makes you feel good when you hear things like that from other hunters.   I plan to change things up slightly this fall vs. last fall.  One change is using Swiss instead of A2400 and the other will be to let the 1873 Winchester get out for a week in the woods during Whitetail season.  The season is fast approaching and I am looking forward to it.  I like taking photos also, so like I always do I will take lots of pictures. I have just recently joined this sight, but had been reading information on the 1873 Winchesters here and liked what I was reading.  It is nice to have the resource like this and the extra reading material.

Take care, D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 26, 2013, 07:04:29 PM
D
What state do you call home . Hows the Hunting there . I am a Kentuckian , born and raised here . I went to visit my Uncle for a few years ( 6 1/2 ) they came back home to stay . My Uncle kept me in shape and we did all kinds of FUN things as all 11-B do .  But then that was 30 years ago , don't time fly .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on July 26, 2013, 08:35:00 PM
Rowdy,  I'm in Minnesota, been here my whole life 50 years.  I hunt in different area over the years,  most of my hunting is North East Minnesota, along the Minnesota Wisconsin border.  About and hour south of Duluth Mn.    Hunting here is good.  Harvest numbers are about half of what Wisconsin does.  I've taken a deer each of the last two years and I also small game hunt.  The area I deer hunt has some large Black Bear, I have come across them while in deer stand or out hunting.  But I have yet to try Bear Hunting.  I did bear hunt when younger 14 and 15.  The area along the St. Croix river, North of the St Croix State park there are 400 to 600 pound black bears taken.  I'm not an expert, but just like being in the woods and enjoy the outdoors.  I have been bitten by the 44-40 bug and its got a good hold on me.  Most of my friends hunt with .243, 7mm, .300 mag, you get the idea.  But I have yet to track a whitetail that I have shot.  I have had to help others track, but the 44-40 does a fine job on deer.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 27, 2013, 01:50:36 PM
D
I enjoy the ole school weapons . The 44wcf in a 73 Winchester is as GOOD as it gets . I also have a 1876 in a 45-60 it's a shooter but it's heavy . I killed a nice buck with it a few years ago . But I haven't taken a Deer with my 73 . Last year I used my Muzzle Loader to harvest a buck . I wish you could use a 1873 using black powder ammo in muzzle loading season . Maybe some day ?
Good luck to you on this upcoming Hunting season be safe , have fun and hunt every day , life is short .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 28, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
Howdy
Went to shoot my 73 today . I had a few rounds loaded with Triple 7 they shot good . They came in at 1250 fps the other loading I used came in over 1300 fps . So if you can't get your hands on Black Powder then the T7 is another choice .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on July 29, 2013, 12:38:10 AM
Rowdy,  I shot three different loads today from the 73 Winchester in 44-40.  1st was 15.2 gr. of A2400 with a 200 gr. rnfp at .430" diameter these were at 1000 fps.  2nd was 33.6gr of Goex and that was 1250fps, (I had to clean after ten rounds)  3rd was 35.2gr of Swiss at 1290fps and very low SD.  I have been pan lubing, but want to buy a luber/sizer.  Been think about the Lyman 4500 model with heater.  Have fun and hope to see some photos of your hunting camp and harvest.

D-hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on July 29, 2013, 06:11:02 AM
It's a little more money, but you'll be thankful in the long run if you buy a Star Lurbisizer from Magma Engineering.  The straight through design is much, much faster and easier to use.  I started out with a Lyman and kicked myself in the posterior for not getting a Star sooner.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on July 29, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
Blackpowder Burn,  Thank you for the advise.   I will look into a Star Lubersizer.   I have not had the need to size yet.  My 1894 Marlin is very large groove diameter.   An I have not purchased a mould for the 1873 yet.  Plan on ordering a Accurate Mould from Tom.   It will be a 430215c or the one that 30wcf recommends as being close to the Winchester original design (I have the number written down).

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Blackpowder Burn on July 30, 2013, 08:45:55 AM
If you can afford it, you'll also appreciate the pneumatic cylinder to provide automatic lube feed.  It requires a small air compressor, but is another item that really speeds up sizing and lubing.

So many toys...............so little money!  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: pony express on July 30, 2013, 07:05:09 PM
If you go with the Lyman, you shouldn't need a heater if you stick with using BP type lubes, that's mainly needed for the newer hard smokeless lubes.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 02, 2013, 11:03:04 PM
Howdy
What's the new guy going to do for black powder ammo . After the explosion Black Dawge is gone . Sadly with them out of the picture , the Vintage Hunting ammo is done before it started . I have made a few calls and they say we are to small . They are wanting a larger crowd . Oh well , just go hunting and have a good time and remember how much fun you had with our obsolete weapons and ammo .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on August 03, 2013, 12:07:50 AM
That is sad information for the person who wants to buy loaded B.P. ammunition.  But I can understand their position.  44-40 is not as common as 45colt or 44mag.  Then on top of that someone wanting 44-40 in B.P. is even less.  I am glad I can still buy Swiss and Goex, and can find Winchester large pistol primers so I can put together what I need.   I think the writing is on the wall.   There are less hunters every year.  In the 1980's in Minnesota we had 480,000 upland bird hunters in the fields.  Last year was under 80,000 hunters for upland bird.  The numbers are not there.  As hunters drop in numbers, so will revenue for these companies.  Shooting sports like sporting clays, cas and sass have all help give shooting sports a shot in the arm so to speak.  But more needs to be done to get younger people involved in maintaining the shooting ranges, educating shooters and non-shooters.  It is hard to expect these companies to produce products that are not making them a profit.  Things can change, but it takes putting forward a good image to the non-shooting crowd.  And us shooters supporting the companies the manufacture the supplies we use for our sport, whether that is hunting or target.  I know I enjoy hunting and I like vintage firearms, but just how may hunters are looking to buy B.P. loaded hunting ammunition and how many rounds a year would one hunter buy?

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on August 04, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
Howdy
What's the new guy going to do for black powder ammo . After the explosion Black Dawge is gone . Sadly with them out of the picture , the Vintage Hunting ammo is done before it started . I have made a few calls and they say we are to small . They are wanting a larger crowd . Oh well , just go hunting and have a good time and remember how much fun you had with our obsolete weapons and ammo .

It is very unfortunate that their son was injured in a reloading accident that he is still recovering from. Understandably, that was a good reason to dispense with the ammunition portion of their product line.  

Thankfully, there are presently two other sources for 44-40 b.p.  ammo....
Buffalo Arms offers .44-40 b.p. ammunition loaded with Swiss powder but it seems like it is not in stock most of the time.
http://www.buffaloarms.com/44_40_Black_Powder_Ammunition_it-158172.aspx?CAT=4438

Ten-X has 44-40 ammunition (44-40 BPC) that uses 777,  a substitute b.p.
http://www.tenxammo.com/files/Shooter_Direct_Pricing_06152013.pdf

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on August 04, 2013, 12:12:07 PM
I was not aware that anyone was hurt in the accident.  My post sounded cold and based on profits,  I apologize and pray for their sons speedy recovery.     Thank you for the added information.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 10, 2013, 12:26:17 PM
Howdy
Today I drove to my shooting spot . I fired a few rounds through my 45 colt pistol  then I got my 73 out . I had ammo loaded with unique and some loaded with T7 . The unique was a load that will work for hunting season if I need a smokeless round . The T7 will work if I run out of Black Powder . The T7 load has a good thump to it when you squeeze the trigger . Who's ready for Deer season ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on August 10, 2013, 03:20:26 PM
Quote
Who's ready for Deer season Huh

Buddy, you aint the only one.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on August 11, 2013, 04:11:28 PM
The time is fast approaching, and I feel I'm already behind as compared to last year.  It is hard to fit all the fun stuff into the schedule.   Hope to see some great photos of the hunts this year and of the camp sites.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on August 12, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
I'll be using my original 1873 44-40 (made in 1887) for deer hunting this fall. The season is not until the 2nd week in November. I've settled on a load and will be practicing offhand shooting between now and then. Hope to be able to post photos of the old '73 and a nice Whitetail.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 16, 2013, 09:14:46 PM
Kirk
Can't wait to see those pictures . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 21, 2013, 10:50:56 AM
Howdy
Has everyone got there rifle ready for Deer season ? I had a opportunity to check my rifles out with my Hunting ammo . My ole favorite rifle was spot on BUT my backup rifle needed some sight adjusting and my trigger was way to heavy . Hope to take it back out and try it again , maybe today .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 23, 2013, 07:38:27 PM
Howdy
I changed the sights on my short rifle . I went with a marbles front sight with a gold bead and the rear sight was a ole Winchester rear sight . The trigger was way to HEAVY so I back the screw out about a turn and a half . Now I need to go shoot and put the final touch on my sights . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on September 24, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Rowdy,  Good to hear your all geared up for hunting.  I have a question about the screw you turned 1.5 turns to effect trigger pull.  I'm not sure if I understand which screw?  Is your back up rifle a different model, or are they both 1873's?  Hope I'm not sounding dumb, but I keep thinking in my head and can only think of the hammer spring, which will also effect the speed or fall rate of the hammer.  True it may have and effect on pressure needed to lift the trigger off the shear notch in the hammer.  Just trying to understand, and not attempting to be disrespectful. 

Happy Hunting
D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on September 25, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
Rowdy, I ran some 200 grain speer hollowpoints/and some 255 cast lead through it and it shot spot on with either load.  I don't plan on tinkering with her one iota.  

Good huinting!

Mean Bob
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 27, 2013, 10:35:02 PM
D
Both rifles are 1873's in 44wcf . The screw I'm referring to is under the lever . It keeps tension on the main spring .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 09, 2013, 08:50:52 PM
Howdy
After work I went to our hunting shack . Did a little grass mowing . Always like to keep an eye on things . Muzzle Loading season is almost here . Rifle season kicks off the second Saturday in November , my rifle is ready . I can't wait .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on October 09, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Been out archery hunting and upland bird.  Staying clear of an area I am saving for rifle season and am ready with the 44-40 black powder loads.  We will see how they perform if I get the chance to take a shot with the rifle and cartridge.  I've been waiting all summer for Nov. 9th   Wishing everyone great luck with their hunting and looking forward to some photos.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 12, 2013, 12:09:20 PM
D
We are all excited about Gun season . I plan on hunting with my 73 in 44wcf . I have a load worked out using BP and a smokeless load from years past . But my real interest this year is to use the BP load . I sit here chewing on a piece of Deer jerky and thinking about the oncoming Hunt . We always pray for good weather  and sometimes we get good weather and sometimes it RAINS and RAINS .  How many hunters are using 44wcf ? are you using smokeless or BP ??
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on October 12, 2013, 06:56:35 PM
I am using BP.  The load is 35.2 gr of Swiss 2fg.   with a 200gr 43-215c at .430" diameter.  50:1 lead:tin  at 1290fps.   We will see how this performs if I can connect.   Last season with the 44-40 and smokeless (A2400) I harvested a nice six point.  Complete pass through double lung and it just dropped straight down.   I am all amped up for the rifle season.   Trying to get all my chores under control so they will not interfere with hunting.

Happy hunting,
D-hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 15, 2013, 06:59:07 PM
D
This coming weekend muzzle loading season comes in . We will hunt and camp for the weekend . And do our scouting for Rifle season . JD has the cooking , so we will eat good . After hunting all day will spend time sitting around the fire probably burning marsh mellows , and having a nip of Whiskey . Good friends ,good Hunting and GOOD FOOD what else could we ask for ?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on October 15, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
Rowdy,  have a great time, have fun and stay safe.   Who is JD?   What state do you hunt in?   I hunt in Minnesota,  half way between Duluth and St. Paul.   Along the St. Croix river.   I have hunted in the arrow head region, and near the north west angle.  Only thing we need in MN. is Mountains.   But you can't have everything.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 20, 2013, 05:05:30 PM
D
I am a Kentuckian . I Hunt on a Farm in Webster County good deer hunting there . JD is my Father in Law .  We have been Hunting together since  1989 , that was the year I got out of Service . I shot a coyote today with my Muzzle Loader , can't wait for Rifle season to come in . Just weeks away . Who's ready ???
                 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on October 20, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
Well, I'm getting excited as well to bring home the venison with my 1889 vintage Model 1873. I've got my load, and this ol' '73 is a natural at offhand shooting at 100 yards. It's the heavy barrel and the tang sight. Only three more weeks until I get to head out into the bush with this beauty!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on October 20, 2013, 10:36:46 PM
Hey Rowdy, congrats to you on your coyote.  It is nice to spend time in the woods. 

KirkD,  Hope to see some photos of your 1973 and your harvest for the deer season.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 27, 2013, 08:26:59 PM
Howdy Boys
Got a chance to fire a few rounds this morning . The Rifle is doing it part , I just have to do my part . I have a box of ammo loaded with Swiss Powder . This was ammo that was being tested for Powder Inc . after the Explosion they discontinued the Black Dawge line . But I have ammo for Deer season . Plan on smoking me a BIG Buck with my 1873 . There's supposed to be a Black Panther in those bottoms , I ain't seen it our even a track . But I sure hope I do . I think his hide would look Great laying in front of my fire place . Hope the camp cook has a good recipe for panther .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on October 28, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
Rowdy, I sure hope you get that Black Panther. A rug would look superb with a full mounted head. Can't say I'd be looking forward to chowing down on panther meat, though. Two weeks from today I'll be sitting in the bush with my '73 looking to fill my tag. Hope you get that big buck.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on October 28, 2013, 04:02:18 PM
Howdy Boys
Got a chance to fire a few rounds this morning . The Rifle is doing it part , I just have to do my part . I have a box of ammo loaded with Swiss Powder . This was ammo that was being tested for Powder Inc . after the Explosion they discontinued the Black Dawge line . But I have ammo for Deer season . Plan on smoking me a BIG Buck with my 1873 . There's supposed to be a Black Panther in those bottoms , I ain't seen it our even a track . But I sure hope I do . I think his hide would look Great laying in front of my fire place . Hope the camp cook has a good recipe for panther .

Jack O'Connor said that Cougar tasted like veal.
Title: Speaking of panthers......
Post by: w44wcf on October 30, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
Interesting story from Tom Dalton - posted on the SASS Wire back on 3/29/04..........

Just thought I would pass this experience on to all you folks. My Pa runs a Scottish Highland cattle ranch. Its small but he does OK. Well here in the Pacific northwest in Washington state we gots a few mountain lions and one of em got a hankerin after one of our 8 month old hiefers and took after during the night. Tore her poor little throat out and then left.

Cougars like to let their kill ripen a bit before they eat it. Well I wasn't too pleased so I took my Pa's Uberti made 73 in 44-40 and waited near the carcass in the field with my little brother. Sure enough the cougar came to feast and I plugged it with a 44-40 right in the chest. Penetration was clean through the vitals and came out right under her tail and clipped the end off on the way out. She bounced around for about 3 or 4 seconds and fell over dead. I tanned the hide and salvaged the skull and teeth.

The cartridge was handloaded  200 gr RNFP Orgeon Trail laser cast bullet at about 1,200 f.p.s.     Tom D


w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on October 30, 2013, 10:02:15 PM
Thanks for the neat story John.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 31, 2013, 04:24:55 PM
W44wcf
Thanks for the story . Hows the Olde Enysford powder doing ? I have a few rounds of 44wcf loaded with Swiss . That will carry me through Deer season . I hope to Kill a nice Buck , a medium sized Doe , a couple coyotes . And a big black cat . Now that's my plan .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 31, 2013, 06:04:21 PM
I'm getting ready to load up some Old E. Will report back after I've had time to test it.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 01, 2013, 10:34:39 PM
Cliff
Will you take your 44wcf Deer hunting ? And do you plan to use BP ? I plan on shooting tomorrow , always like to practice as much as possible . I practice from close shots to out to 120 yards . In the woods I very seldom get a shot over 50 yards . I like hunting close , BUT you better have your crap together . And when you THINK you have them figured out they will prove you WRONG .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2013, 02:12:31 PM
Howdy
Today I did my last minute shooting . The Swiss powder did a Great job as always . The Swiss shoots Great and the cleanup is easy . I will be using my 1873 exclusively  this year    , will leave my 1876 in 45-60 at home . Today I checked my gear for this Friday , the plan is to leave work and head to the Hunting Cabin . The weather forecast for opening day is Good . But they have a tendency to change the weather forecast everyday . So when we get up Saturday , then we will know what the weather will be .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 03, 2013, 02:20:01 PM
Rowdy, sounds like you will be hunting the same time as me. I'll be doing my final practice session of offhand shooting tomorrow. On Friday morning I leave for the 7 hour drive up North and start hunting at the crack of dawn on Saturday. Good luck!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 03, 2013, 04:33:21 PM
Yeah Rowdy, I'lll be shooting black powder in my 44wcf. I plan to take my Uberti 66 rifle with 24 inch barrel since it has the sights on it I think would serve me best hunting.

Update on the 44wcf Old E. powder loads.

Accurate 43-210 35 grain 2f Old E. average 1317fps. Most accurate load tested. Nice 3 inch group at 100 yards with my eyes and open sights.

Accurate 43-210 33 grain 3f Old E. average 1345 fps.

Accurate 43-215C 35 grain 2f Old E. average 1275 fps.

Accurate 43-215C 33 grains 3f Old E. average 1311 fps. Second most accurate load tested. I'm probably going to hunt with this one since it hits perfect point of aim.

Regular Goex powder 36 grains 2F produced 1135fps with Mav44 big lube bullets. This is the load this rifle had been sighted for and hits good groups point of aim.

All loads were well within minute of deer accuracy and most were nice groups but I had a flier on the second two tests. Probably was my fault.

The sights on this gun are a large white marbles bead and the rear sight is a stock uberti sight that I have modified to the same profile as an original 1873 winchester sight. Not the best set up for real accuracy testing at a distance since the bead is too large for longer ranges but a great set up for close range deer hunting under 75 yards or so. I can find that big marbles bead with low light in the woods.

Where I plan to take this one hunting my shots probably wont be over 50 yards and likely within 30 yards.

The Old Eynsford powder does really seem to be clean like the Swiss powder.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 03, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
I still have not snagged any Swiss, otherwise I'd be using it for hunting next weekend. This evening, I am loading up my 44-40 cartridges with 18 grains of 5744 under a 200 grain Accurate Moulds cast bullet for right around 1,300 fps. It gives me around 2 & 3/4" five-shot groups at 100 yards out of my original '73. Hope one of these bullets takes down the venison next week.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Patrick Henry Brown on November 03, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
I plan to take my 44-40 Uberti Henry deer hunting next weekend. Loaded some cartridges yesterday morning with 35 grains of Swiss 3FG behind a a Mav Dutchman Big Lube 44 200 grain RNFP. Went to the range today and tried them. Excellent group at 50 yards. sighted 2" high at that range. Any idea what I can expect as far as POA vs POI at 100 yds. Don't plan on shooting that far, but am interested anyway. I'll be hunting in East Texas, so probability of encountering some hogs as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 03, 2013, 07:44:15 PM
if it is 2" high at 50 yards, it should be very close to bang on at 100.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Patrick Henry Brown on November 03, 2013, 07:49:15 PM
Thanks. That was what I was thinking, but thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 06, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Howdy
Well Hunting season is just DAYS away .Hope everyone has a safe and successful Hunting season . And don't forget your pictures . We love all the pictures , does anyone have there eye on a Monster Buck ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on November 06, 2013, 08:07:13 PM
I am so bummed, I was set to go hunting this Friday-first time with my 1873 and my 1860 conversions-but they've called me in to work in the crime lab.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 07, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
I am so bummed, I was set to go hunting this Friday-first time with my 1873 and my 1860 conversions-but they've called me in to work in the crime lab.
Mean Bob, that is a crime in and of itself. :(

I'm leaving first thing in the morning and come dawn on Saturday morning, me and my '73 will be out in the bush.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on November 07, 2013, 11:05:17 PM
I'm leaving first thing in the morning and come dawn on Saturday morning, me and my '73 will be out in the bush.

All the best wishes for a safe and succesful hunt to you sir!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 17, 2013, 11:34:39 AM
MBM
Sorry you had to work . Hope things work out for next year .I was able to take a nice 8 pt. will post pictures in a few days . I will also post the picture of my first Vintage Hunting Deer it was a nice 11 point , he has a nice drop tine on his left side . Life is funny I started out using a Remington 700 scoped out in 30-06 and now I am back to a 73 Winchester in 44wcf  using  BP .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 19, 2013, 04:48:56 PM
Cliff
Did you hunt with the Olde E black powder  ? So you think it works as well as Swiss . What does a pound go for now days . There has been several good reports about this powder . I shot some ammo that was supposed to be loaded with olde E but I don't know what happened . The grouping and the fouling were bad . I hope the olde e works .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 19, 2013, 08:32:47 PM
Rowdy, started out modern season shooting long range areas with modern scoped rifle. Been trying to get to the woods with my 66 for the last week but work, weather, and my neck problems have kept me from it. I'm hoping to get my four wheeler going so I can get in the last few days end of the week. My neck and back just arent going to let me get back in the woods and drag out a deer without help.

I also wound up concentrating in an area where I saw a really nice buck that was hoping would show again but the shots in those bottoms have me stretching out to around 400 yards at times so wasn't wanting to see him at a long distance again with nothing to reach out and get him.

I have shot the Old E in a few loads, it seems real clean but haven't gotten to do any extensive testing compared to swiss. I will say for the price the Old E will probably be going in most if not all of my black powder loads unless something changes. It seems to be the best "bang for the buck" so to speak. Pun intended  ;D

Still got late muzzleloader season in which Old E will probably be going in my muzzle loader.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 23, 2013, 09:21:55 PM
Howdy
Today I finally shot a doe . We cooked the tenderloin tonight . And it was excellent .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on November 24, 2013, 07:19:00 AM
PIC"S!! Or it didn't happen.   :D Congrates!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: mr phil on November 24, 2013, 09:22:02 AM
PIC"S!! Or it didn't happen.   :D Congrates!

 ;D
Well now I'm all kinds of excited to take my Uberti 73 out on opening day. It's a beauty with a 30 inch barrel . I have replaced it with a 66 for when I get back into cowboy shooting. That is to say when I get weekends off again . All my guns are in 45LC cause I like it and I am set up to load it. My deer stand locations are in the deep woods and have never offered up more than a 50yd shot. It's the most beautiful spot next to a Cyprus swamp. So this year It will be the 73. Maybe next year I'll try the 1860 Henry which is in 44-40. I don't yet load for that round.
I have not been hunting yet this year. I had some abdominal surgery 4 weeks ago but I believe I should be good to go by next saturday. I will have ny 21 yr old son down the swamp if I need help. I had a Hernia for the last 3 years that I finally had the funds to get it taken care of. Lets hear it for doctors who give cash discounts.  :D  
 Good luck to everybody and be safe.
Oh yes ...... Lets see some pictures. I will be sure to post if I have any luck.
 God save the Republic.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 27, 2013, 04:40:54 PM
Howdy
Today I finally shot a doe . We cooked the tenderloin tonight . And it was excellent .  ;D ;D ;D
Excellent! Was it with a black powder load?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 27, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Kirk
Yes it was a Black Powder round . She was a small Doe , excellent eating .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on November 28, 2013, 08:37:20 AM
Kirk
Yes it was a Black Powder round . She was a small Doe , excellent eating .
Good to hear. My regret this year is that I did not use black powder and a pure lead bullet. I would have if I could have gotten my hands on some Swiss. I do have Goex, however, so if I can't get any Swiss, I'll have to consider using Goex.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 28, 2013, 05:37:58 PM
Kirk
Goex's has a NEW black powder on the market , it's old Ensyford . There are reports that it works almost as good as the Swiss .

W44wcf
Hows the olde E doing ????
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on November 29, 2013, 09:59:39 AM
It was nice to hear you had success Rowdy.   I was skunked this season and rifle hunting for whitetail is over.  Still have archery season till Dec 31st. 

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2013, 04:34:24 PM
Howdy
Trying to post picture ??????
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2013, 05:16:42 PM
Howdy
Here is the picture of the little Doe .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on December 01, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
Lots of nice venison there Rowdy, Congrates. I wish we could hunt with rifles here in IL, I'd sure be out there with my old 94's, 92, or 86. But for now I got this lil 10 pointer with my Remington 1100 sunday morning.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j78/veeman2/Home/11-24-1310pointKrafts4_zps9c9cd030.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on December 01, 2013, 08:30:39 PM
Rowdy,  thanks for sharing the very cool photos.   That is a very nice looking 1873.   

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on December 01, 2013, 08:32:25 PM
Rowdy,  how did the black power load perform.  Did it pass through?  Did you recover the bullet?

Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2013, 09:21:18 PM
Howdy
The black powder ammo worked . It did a good job .
KM
Nice Deer , have you made any Jerky yet .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on December 01, 2013, 09:56:06 PM
Na, no jerky. Too expencive to have made, dont have time or equipment to do it myself. All burger and brats, besides the chops n tenderloins.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 06, 2013, 02:03:09 PM
KM
I have my Deer meat ground for Jerky ,and I have a jerky gun that I use . It looks like a caulking gun and making jerky is real easy . I make my own jerky because it's to expensive to have made .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 15, 2013, 10:39:20 AM
Howdy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on December 16, 2013, 07:44:31 AM
Very fine coat. Where can a fellow get a coat like that?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2013, 04:31:50 PM
KirkD
The shirt in the picture was made by a friend . Bear Tooth Billy brain tanned the hide and made the shirt . I love that shirt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on December 17, 2013, 06:41:48 PM
KirkD
The shirt in the picture was made by a friend . Bear Tooth Billy brain tanned the hide and made the shirt . I love that shirt .
Now that is even better! A handmade shirt; very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2013, 08:43:46 PM
Howdy
Here's a few Vintage Hunting Tools .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: D-Hansen on December 21, 2013, 12:34:43 PM
Cool photos Rowdy, thanks for sharing.  The hand made stuff is special beyond words.

D-Hansen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 21, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Howdy
A picture from Deer Camp .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 28, 2013, 02:12:46 PM
Howdy
Here is a few of my Hunting tools .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on December 29, 2013, 08:11:27 PM
Very nice outfit of vintage style tools and leather. Using tools like that adds a lot to the enjoyment of a hunt.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 03, 2014, 10:45:14 PM
Howdy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on January 04, 2014, 10:34:43 AM
Beautiful buck, taken with a '73 in a classic caliber, and with a vintage outfit. That is hunting done right!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 05, 2014, 04:12:50 PM
Howdy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on January 08, 2014, 09:23:29 AM
Nice outfit, and I really like that pelt.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 21, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
KirkD
The coyote pelt was taken with a 45 colt pistol about 10 years ago . I was so proud to take a Coyote with a pistol I had the hide tanned . Plan on chasing coyote this weekend , if the weather will cooperate ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on January 22, 2014, 01:57:17 PM
Impressive. A Coyote taken with a pistol is a rare accomplishment!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 25, 2014, 10:18:30 AM
KirkD
Thank You for the kind words . I am proud of that Trophy , them critters are hard to get with a rifle  . Several years ago I was out scouting for Turkey when we noticed a pack of coyotes moving through the woods . I started calling and I was able to break one away from the pack . I called him to within 30 yards of where we were sit up . Then I used my favorite Muzzle Loader a TC Pennsylvania Hunter , a 50 caliber round ball does an Excellent job on coyotes at 30 yards . That was the same muzzle loader I used this year to take a Coyote during Deer season ( muzzle loader ) .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 08, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
Howdy
Made my rounds today out  looking for Coyotes . I spotted 3 and killed 0 . They were not at 73 distance , about 400 yards .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on February 08, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
Howdy
Made my rounds today out  looking for Coyotes . I spotted 3 and killed 0 . They were not at 73 distance , about 400 yards .

Well, if you ever get one at that range we will be extra proud of you.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 10, 2014, 06:21:26 PM
Howdy
A 400 yard shot with a 44wcf , I need a Video to go along with that . They say seeing is believing . ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 02, 2014, 03:57:22 PM
Howdy
The 2013 Hunting season is over . Hope everyone had a successful season . I was able to take my first Buck with my 73 , and was happy with the out come . Later I was able to take a small Doe , which has made for Excellent eating . Now for the 2014 Hunting season is here , Hope everyone has a chance to go Hunting . Wish everyone lots of luck on there Hunts in 2014 . My plans for 2014  Hunt more and enjoy just being there . Having a nice fire at night and sitting around visiting with my Hunting friends . Life is Good . It's the small things in Life that are important .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on March 02, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
My plans for 2014  Hunt more and enjoy just being there . Having a nice fire at night and sitting around visiting with my Hunting friends . Life is Good . It's the small things in Life that are important .
That pretty much sums up my plans for 2014 as well.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 08, 2014, 03:01:52 PM
Howdy
The weather was nice , Finally . Drove down to my favorite shooting hole and  shot a few targets . Even pulled out the saa and fired a few rounds through it . I guess you could say I was practicing  for season . That 44wcf still works after a century .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 20, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
Howdy
Spring is almost here . This is the time of year we try to call in a few coyotes , usually it's the hungry ones that come a running . I figure a 73 with a bp load should give a hunter a few style points .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on March 21, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
Sound's like a hunt is brewing- up Rowdy. Good Luck Amigo.,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 27, 2014, 05:32:52 PM
Dusty
What  about that 38-40 taking a Texas Tom ? She's a good shooter . Make one Hell of a story for the Grand Kids .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on March 27, 2014, 06:11:26 PM
Rowdy I think the 38-40 is up to it ,just need to get me in gear. How is the season looking  for up Yonder?Bout time Yall get some Spring and let go of Old Man Winter. Good Luck Amigo!,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 03, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
Dusty
Mother nature is being a BAD girl . Heavy rains are flooding the bottoms . Was planning a scouting trip this weekend but looks like that's a l WASH OUT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on April 04, 2014, 10:31:02 AM
Same up here. Still lots of snow, but it is melting every day. I am getting very antsy to do some casting and shooting, but it might still be a few weeks away.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 04, 2014, 10:19:33 PM
Howdy
  I will need a canoe to scout . The bottoms are flooded big time . And Turkey season comes in next Saturday . BUT the water has moved the Coyotes to higher ground .
KirkD
Hang in there warm weather is coming .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 01, 2014, 04:28:11 PM
Howdy
The ground hogs are out . Who has the first kill of the season ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on June 01, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
Quote
The ground hogs are out . Who has the first kill of the season ?
I shot a big female with a Uberti 44-40 revolver and BP ammo yesterday. Does that count?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on June 01, 2014, 07:13:41 PM
I shot a big female with a Uberti 44-40 revolver and BP ammo yesterday. Does that count?

NICE!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on June 02, 2014, 03:48:26 PM
Got another one today in the hay field with my 1873 short rifle 44-40 and BP ammo. I need to start carrying a camera.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 02, 2014, 08:37:04 PM
MJN77
Great job , hope you can get a few pictures . We would love to see those dispatched Ground Hogs .   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: pony express on June 03, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
I haven't shot one in years, seems the only time I see them anymore, I'm driving and see one running for his hole.

40+ years ago, when my home town wasn't so grown up, I used to shoot them in my Grandma's garden. She's call on the phone, I'd grab Dad's Win 1890 pump 22 from the closet, cross the road to her house, Veeeerrrryyy carefully raise the bathroom window, then blaze away. Funny, when she called, she would whisper on the phone, didn't want the groundhog to hear her call in the artillery.....
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 07, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
Howdy
Went to our hunting cabin over the weekend . We mowed grass and did a few other chores . We also shot a few clay birds after wards . I fired a few rounds from my 73 and she is ready for the 2014 Deer season . I can't wait till hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on July 10, 2014, 10:51:50 AM
Getting ready for the fall hunting season, I see! I haven't fired my '73 since it took a nice doe last fall. You are making me think I need to dust it off again and head to the range.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 11, 2014, 10:45:57 PM
Kirk
I plan on shooting my rifle tomorrow . Wonder why if you have your rifle with you , you won't see any Ground Hogs . But if you leave that rifle at home they are EVERYWHERE ? I guess the moral of the story is never be unarmed .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Thomas (Tom) Horn aka James Hicks on July 12, 2014, 12:24:16 AM
Rowdy,

Doubt if this qualifies...LOL.  I had 2 woodchucks (ground hogs) who wanted to stay under my Barn (shed). But they made the wrong choice... I used my Marlin 783 which is chambered for Win 22 WMR.  No more woodchucks under the barn. I Live inside city limits and with all the new construction in the area the hogs are moving into town. These two just happened to choose the wrong resident for their home sight.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 12, 2014, 12:21:17 PM
Tom
Looks like you fixed the problem .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: hammer1 on July 13, 2014, 06:32:16 AM
Ive had a issue this year with raccoons, had one raiding the wifes bird feeders. I was instructed to be the other shooter on the grassy knoll. A rather large female took one from the cz 512, 22 mag. Another one was circling my pond, for no known reason. My 50-70 sharps with a 450 gr. Bullet made a interesting conversation piece of it. Both shot in broad daylight, midafternoon. Havent seen any woodchucks this year, which is a bit odd.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 20, 2014, 08:24:24 PM
Howdy
Here is my 73 in my little blue mule .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 23, 2014, 08:52:24 PM
Howdy
Rifle season opens in a couple weeks . I have a week of vacation to take . Have plans to camp for the week .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on November 02, 2014, 02:58:33 PM
Good luck on the hunt and congrats on having vacation to take as that implies being employed.  Did you get on at the mine 4 miles from your door.

I just acquired a Miruko 73 RB short rifle in 44-40.  Just starting loading, want to get a decent CAS smokeless load for it then branch out to BP.  I have 100 rounds starline brass and 300 enroute from TOTW.  Don't want to load them with BP until I have fire formed them to the chamber.  That should give a bit more powder capacity vs the straight taper they are when new.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 02, 2014, 08:04:02 PM
cpt Dan
I work for the County water now . I tried getting on at the local Coal Mines but no luck . They prefer 21 year old workers over 52 year old workers . Good luck with your new Rifle , have you tried Trail Boss . It works real good for a smokeless load .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 03, 2014, 08:59:58 AM
Rowdy it is good to see you are still actively engaged in vintage hunting. It's been awhile since I've stopped in here - but I still shoot my BP rifles now and then. I'm planning on using either the 1866 or the 1873 in 44-40 for a day or two this season for deer. I've set aside the 45/75 and 45/60 for now - but just temporary I assure you. ;)

Best of luck during your week of camping and hunting!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on November 03, 2014, 09:46:10 AM
Have not tried TB, I have a bunch of Nitro 100, AA2, AA5, AA7, and 2400 around the house.  Given the data that I can find the only way I will be able to get to original 44-40 velocities is using holy black.  I have schuetzen 2F and 3F and Olde Eynsford 1.5 and 2F

Reading through a lot of stuff on the CAS City Forums sounds like the best bet for fouling will be the OE vs Schuetzen.  I am basically too cheap to come of the dime for swiss and the OE seems to be within a gnats behind of the quality of the swiss.

Don't know if I will ever hunt with the 44-40 because it is really hard to get drawn for a hunt here in AZ.  Having said that there is some discussion of a Hog hunt in conjunction with the SASS Convention in San Antonio 7-11 Jan or there abouts.  There will then be the 73 44-40, 92 44 mag (carbine and rifle), 94 32 WS (dads rifle and sentimental favorite) 95 30-06 conundrum.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 05, 2014, 08:48:15 PM
cpt dan
I have my ammo ready for hunting . I have a box from last year loaded with Swiss , and a box loaded with Triple 7 .When I get sit up at camp Friday will see which one  performs the best .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 11, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Howdy
The 44wcf did an Excellent job on a very big Buck . This is the largest Buck I have ever killed . The State Biologist aged it at 4 1/2 years old . It has a inside spread of 20 1/2 inches . This is a 10 pointer . Will post pictures later .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 11, 2014, 05:33:50 PM
Congratulations, Rowdy!  I'm looking forward to the photos.

CC Griff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on November 11, 2014, 06:11:47 PM
Congratulations Rowdy ! That is great news! Look forward to seeing some pics. Nothing like Traditional Hunting!,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 12, 2014, 07:35:22 PM
Howdy
Here is the pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 12, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
Really nice Rowdy. Congrats.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 12, 2014, 08:15:48 PM
Wow!  NICE!

CC Griff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on November 12, 2014, 10:09:24 PM
That's a dandy!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on November 12, 2014, 10:26:26 PM
Great job Rowdy! That is a Top end buck! ,,,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2014, 08:34:42 AM
Howdy
I was holding the barrel of my rifle against the rack so you can get an idea of it's width .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 13, 2014, 04:37:07 PM
That there is one dandy buck Rowdy. Can you give some specifics such as range, weather, hunting method, etc. ? I'd love to hear more about the hunt. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2014, 07:12:40 PM
DB
He was at 65 yards standing broadsided . The 44wcf took out both lungs and he was down in 20 yards . I fired 1 shot and it hit the right spot . The weather was nice temp was mid 30's and I was hunting from a stand about 15 foot high .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on November 13, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Fantastic Buck.  So much for 44-40 not being enough gun for deer!!  Actually shot placement and a realistic appraisal of capabilities of rifle, round and the man behind the rifle all lead to a humane kill and some good eats.

Congrats, even though I have a slightly green hue
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 14, 2014, 11:34:29 AM
I'd say you did very well with the rifle at 65 yards and open sights. Sounds like there was plenty of oompf~ left in the projectile to the job done on both lungs after penetrating the hide. Well done!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on November 14, 2014, 04:18:52 PM
Quote
So much for 44-40 not being enough gun for deer!!

No kidding. I've hunted deer with the .44-40 for sixteen years and have been told time and again that I need something with more power. While I wouldn't try to kill deer at 200 yards, all the ones that have crossed my sights at 100 or less never knew I didn't use a 30-06. I've said on here before, when I got my first 44 rifle, I killed three deer with Magtech .44-40 "cowboy" loads before I knew better. Of all the deer I have taken with the old 44WCF, "cowboy" or proper ammo, I never had to use more than one shot and all fell in 10-15 yards.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 14, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Howdy
Today I was hunting for a Doe when a coyote came slipping through the woods . I got a good hit on him and he was down . He was at about 75 yards . I knocked him down and he jumped up and ran about 30 before giving it up . He was shot through the lungs .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on November 15, 2014, 06:13:18 AM
Rowdy,
Wow! That is an awesome buck!  Great adventure with the 44WCF! ;D  

A few questions please.....
Swiss or 777?
Bullet?
Alloy?
Did the bullet pass through?

Thank you for making 1 less coyote roaming around.

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 16, 2014, 07:38:52 PM
w44wcf
I used 777 and the bullet was a 200 grain .429 dia . I purchased them from Valiant Bullets from Alabama . That was the reason for using the 777 because I didn't have bullets with black powder lube . The ammo that I had left over from Powder Inc. the bullets were actually a .428 even though the box was marked .429 . The load that I used did an excellent job ,when I field Dressed the Deer the bullet had destroyed the lungs . I'll be honest when I saw that Buck my fist thought was I hope I brought enough GUN ,   after shooting he ran about 20 yards and went down .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on November 18, 2014, 10:40:26 PM
Rowdy,
Thank you for the information. Much appreciated.
Did the bullet pass completely through?

w44wcf


Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 19, 2014, 04:38:14 PM
w44wcf
Yes the bullet shot completely through the Buck . I was really pleased with the performance of the round . I plan on testing the olde E this summer . If I reload it , I will know EXACTLY what's being used .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 21, 2014, 07:59:36 PM
Howdy
Plan on one last day of Hunting , looking for a nice doe for eating .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: stuck_in_73 on November 21, 2014, 08:38:49 PM
Ok I know it's obvious to kill a deer with a 73. I got my first deer (an 8 point) last weekend with my Marlin 336ss 30-30. But I want to fill my doe tag and am tempted to take out my uberti 73 using cowboy load 45 colt. How close is lethal range with this caliber? Thanks, and nice deer btw to the guys who have recently posted pics!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: pony express on November 22, 2014, 05:52:35 AM
Probably depends more on how far you can hit the right spot reliably. But at least 125 -150 yards, but then the trajectory gets a little loopy..
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 23, 2014, 10:50:58 AM
Stuck in 73
When you say Cowboy loads for your 45 colt ? What weight bullet and what is the velocity ? I killed a doe several years back with a yellow boy carbine in 45 colt . I was using a 250 grain bullet loaded with Unique powder . I would keep my shoots under 75 yards .
Also if I was thinking about using my 45 for Deer hunting I would spend time at a range , that way you can put your bullet in the kill zone . One shot one kill is a good thing . Hope this answered your question , Good Luck hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: stuck_in_73 on November 23, 2014, 10:17:42 PM
Stuck in 73
When you say Cowboy loads for your 45 colt ? What weight bullet and what is the velocity ? I killed a doe several years back with a yellow boy carbine in 45 colt . I was using a 250 grain bullet loaded with Unique powder . I would keep my shoots under 75 yards .
Also if I was thinking about using my 45 for Deer hunting I would spend time at a range , that way you can put your bullet in the kill zone . One shot one kill is a good thing . Hope this answered your question , Good Luck hunting .

I'm not sure of the velocity. They are 250gr. I got them from georgiaarms.com
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on November 24, 2014, 05:54:45 AM
"Cowboy" ammo is a low velocity target ammo not really suitable for hunting. It can be used, but you need to keep your shots close (50-75 yrds) and shot placement is important. Personally, I would advise getting better .45 ammo.

P.S. On the Georgia Arms website, the ammo is broken into two categories, "cowbow loads" and "hunting & self defense loads". That should tell you something. http://georgia-arms.mybigcommerce.com/

P.P.S. The Georgia Arms site lists the 250gr .45 colt "cowboy" loads with a velocity of 725fps. Not what I would choose to hunt with.
http://georgia-arms.mybigcommerce.com/new-45-long-colt-250gr-round-nose-flat-point/
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 24, 2014, 06:30:22 PM
My 44wcf loads with the Accurate 215C bullet and FFFG Old Eynsford averaged 1315fps last time I chronographed. I haven't shot a deer with it but would choose that load over a standard Cowboy load.

That is 215 grain bullet with 36 grains of powder by weight out of a 24 inch barrel. It's got a bit of a kick to it compared to shooting regular cowboy loads. ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: pony express on November 24, 2014, 09:26:23 PM
While I've never chronographed it, or hunted with it, my triple seven .45 Colt loads from a 19" carbine barrel used toring the steel loader than most anything anybody else had at the range. Used a 250gr bullet, and I don't remember the exact powder charge, but it did hit with authority! I wouldn't hesitate to use it hunting, it just needed some sight work to get it "on" at greater than CAS distances.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on November 25, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Well, it isn't a big buck but today wasn't a total waste of time.
(http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss359/mjn77/Picture001_zpsfac6583b.jpg) (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/mjn77/media/Picture001_zpsfac6583b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 25, 2014, 09:25:50 PM
MJN77
Great job . Looks like excellent eating . What caliber is your rifle . How about that Vintage Hunting , I love it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on November 26, 2014, 05:53:01 AM
Rowdy, my rifle is a .44-40. It's my favorite cartridge. As for the vintage hunting, is there any other kind?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 26, 2014, 09:03:33 AM
Nice job MJN77
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on November 26, 2014, 10:19:25 AM
Thanks Cliff.
 I'll say this, the .44-40 impressed me yesterday. My shot hit and passed through a small tree 3-4 inches wide before hitting the doe. It hit her in front of the last rib on her right side and came out through her left shoulder. She only made it about fifteen yards before she dropped. I have always liked the 44WCF, but that much penetration surprised me.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on November 26, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
Meat on the ground is meat in the freezer! Great shooting with a great round, my favorite also.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 30, 2014, 05:17:13 PM
Howdy
Today we fired the grill up and cooked Deer sausage and Deer burger . He was a big Buck but he sure was tasty . The breakfast sausage was the best , plan on slapping them on a biscuit and eating .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on December 01, 2014, 07:53:06 AM

........ The Georgia Arms site lists the 250gr .45 colt "cowboy" loads with a velocity of 725fps. Not what I would choose to hunt with.

In a 24" barrel, velocity would likely be right around 1,000 f.p.s. as it was with other .45 Colt Cowboy ammunition I tested.
While it is more comforting to have a round producing 1,300 f.p.s. or so, the old 45 C0lt from a handgun at 850 f.p.s. probably accounted for many deer over the years......

Nice harvest.

w44wcf 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on December 01, 2014, 08:36:28 AM
Rowdy,
Thank you for the update on the bullet performance.

Savvy Jack recently tested.44-40 original bullet (pure lead) and a 75/1 lead tin mix over b.p. in ballistic gelatin.
Interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0cfvsruBuQ&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPrCl02R7E&feature=player_embedded

http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/team-44-40/148227-clear-ballistics-gel-44-40-a.html

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2014, 07:57:46 PM
w44wcf
Thanks for the info  27 inches of penetration is very good . This old round loaded at 1300 fps works as good now as it did in the 1870's .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 03, 2014, 08:02:09 PM
Howdy
Pictures from the past .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 29, 2014, 05:12:33 PM
Howdy
Don't you love the Deluxe short Rifle .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: QueensHorseman on December 29, 2014, 05:53:22 PM
Howdy
Don't you love the Deluxe short Rifle .

Rowdy,

I currently have a model 92 src and rifle and have been considering getting a Uberti 73 and just can't decide between the 20" & 24" rifles with half round barrels and I believe that you have both.  This is a fun rifle and will be used for some hunting and I'm torn between the portability of the 20" vs the longer sight radius and balance of the 24".  My ideal choice would likely be a 24", half round rifle with a button mag and straight stock but no one offers a button mag option to my knowledge.  Caliber would be .44 WCF.  I would appreciate your experience with the different barrel lengths.  Thanks
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 30, 2014, 05:34:32 PM
QueensHorseman
I prefer the 24 1/2 . It has the half octagon barrel . I have a short rifle but I like the longer barrel , I guess I need to trade it for another long barrel . Good luck with the rifle , and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2015, 03:12:52 PM
Howdy
Here is a picture of my short rifle  and my old model Cimarron . Now I wish the rifle had a 24 1/2 inch barrel and the pistol had a 4 3/4 . I looked on Cimarron site and what I want is a mp522 . Hope I have one to carry next Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: frimath on January 04, 2015, 11:03:14 AM
Hey Rowdy!! Really really nice buck in that first photo, and that second one ain't nothing to sneeze at either!  Beauty of a rifle and REALLY love the buckskin duds as well. It's not often I say this to a guy BUT love your outfit!!!  How about a little description of what you're wearing and where you got it all. I dare say that buckskin outfit isn't something you bought off of the rack at Walmart ! ::). Thanks for the posting. JohnnyF
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 05, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
JohnnyF
Thanks for the compliment . The shirt is a brain Tanned Buckskin from Bear Tooth Billy . His wife made it for him and he gained a few pounds , so he sold it to me  ;D ;D ;D . The pant are Elk skin I pick them up several years ago at a shoot . The other feller had also out grown his , my lucky break . But my favorite part of this years hunt was I used a 44 wcf with a BP sub. load that I had been loading and shooting since last summer . When I shot that Buck and he went down I was a HAPPY HUNTER .   I was field dressing my Deer and saw the damage that antique round did it was amazing . Both lungs were basically reduced to two blood clots .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 17, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Howdy
I have a Short Rifle that I'm working with . Our should I say trying to like . Here is a picture of it and a USFA that I love . The pistol is a 45 lc Great gun and shoots as good as it looks .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 27, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
Howdy
Hope to get my mount back tomorrow . Can't wait .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on January 28, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
Howdy
Hope to get my mount back tomorrow . Can't wait .

What a beauty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 28, 2015, 04:25:09 PM
Howdy
Well now it's going to be Saturday before I can pick my mount up .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 31, 2015, 09:10:54 PM
Howdy
Got my Mount back today .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: MJN77 on January 31, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
That is fantastic Rowdy. Something to be proud of, for sure.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on February 01, 2015, 10:54:45 AM
Very nice. That is really white. Painted?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 07, 2015, 10:20:34 AM
King
Thanks for the compliment . I don't think they use paint to give it the white color . After they remove the hide and meat they use beetles to eat away the rest of the gunk . Then they degrease the skull . What made it so shinny was a clear coat . I am real pleased with it and I was able to have it back in a few months .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 12, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
Howdy
I have written an article for the Shootist magazine about my Vintage Hunt . The editor is talking about  adding a Vintage Hunting  column to the magazine .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 26, 2015, 08:37:51 PM
Howdy
I was bored tonight , so I snapped a picture of my rifle , pistol and the empty cartridge that killed my 10 point Buck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: M113A3 on March 09, 2015, 01:09:58 AM
Nice pic and I hope the Vintage Hunting column works out. Your profile photo and this thread tie into the book I am currently reading... Hunting trips of a Ranchman.

Cheers
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 11, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
M113a3
Were you in the Mech.INF ???
I have been working with a Pietta 44wcf  pistol to go with my rifle . I think they will make a good combination together .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 18, 2015, 04:11:02 PM
Howdy
  I have my guns lined up for Deer season . I also went with a El Paso John Wayne rig .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: M113A3 on April 19, 2015, 12:26:10 AM
M113a3
Were you in the Mech.INF ???
I have been working with a Pietta 44wcf  pistol to go with my rifle . I think they will make a good combination together .

Roger that... Btw nice photo.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on April 20, 2015, 05:46:01 PM
Nice outfit you have lined up for hunting season, Rowdy. I'm not sure what I'll be using next fall yet, but I do look forward to getting my ol '73 out to the range soon and enjoying some 200 yard shooting with my 44-40.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 22, 2015, 06:10:57 PM
Howdy
Thanks for the kind words . Last Deer season I hunted alone , my hunting buddy was sick . Hope he can make it this fall . We have had lots of fun over the years . Plus he's a better cook than I am .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on April 30, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
That's one heck of a good looking mount Rowdy - sure puts my 2013 board to shame......sorry for the poor quality - taken with a cheap flip-phone...

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/brassmagnet/Hunting%20Shacks/3racks2103_zpsfb3jlfzc.jpg) (http://s274.photobucket.com/user/brassmagnet/media/Hunting%20Shacks/3racks2103_zpsfb3jlfzc.jpg.html)

Congrats one your trophy!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 01, 2015, 05:00:40 PM
Dirty Brass
Thanks for the kind words . Looks like you have a nice collection there yourself . As always I hope to kill a Bigger Buck next season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 08, 2015, 06:53:25 AM
Howdy
I have a short Rifle in 44wcf .Plan on getting it out and shooting , after Turkey season ends this weekend . Will try Ground Hogs and Coyotes .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Dirty Brass on May 11, 2015, 04:13:49 PM
That looks a lot like the 24" 45/60 Rowdy. Just got through watching your ammo test video from 09' with that rifle.

Looking good!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 15, 2015, 07:24:14 PM
Howdy
Plan on ground hog hunting tomorrow . I have my ammo ready and will be packing my Pietta in 44wcf .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 21, 2015, 07:37:09 PM
Howdy
A few of my favorite 44wcf's . And my John Wayne rig from El Paso Saddlery , I love this rig .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 06, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
Howdy
My Deer picture and testimonial is on Hodgdon's  FACEBOOK PAGE .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 21, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
Howdy
Can you tell I love 44wcf ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 04, 2015, 02:41:44 PM
Howdy
Hope everyone's having a great 4 th of July . Which means Deer steaks on the grill and friends over . God Bless America .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: M113A3 on July 04, 2015, 09:14:46 PM
Amen to that brother!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 09, 2015, 04:32:11 PM
Howdy
I got my vacation for Deer season this fall . Plan on Hunting for the week . Will eat good that week as always . Hope I can find the Big brother to the Buck I killed last year .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: KirkD on July 17, 2015, 08:42:34 PM
Looking forward to this fall myself. Everything is lined up except the deer and the rifle I shoot it with. I'm thinking of my vintage 45-70 Model 1886, but I have a couple other ancient Winchesters that haven't had a turn yet either. I sure enjoyed hunting with my '73 though. I plan to take it to the range on Monday and blow the dust out of the bore.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 24, 2015, 04:29:08 PM
Kirk
Well how did the ole 73 shoot ? and what caliber is it ? Got any pictures ? We love pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: mr phil on August 31, 2015, 02:01:16 PM
Howdy.
Well I have been putting this off for a few years but this year I really want to take some Deer with a few of 45's.  I am all ready to use my new chronograph to work up some loads for my 73 and my 66. I will be using smokeless . It seems that unique might be a better choice that trailboss or bullseye.  What would you feel is a safe but effective velocity ? 1200 fps ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: wildman1 on September 01, 2015, 05:35:28 AM
Most states will have a minimum velocity and /or power factor that you need to meet. Contact your state fish and game dept. to ascertain what you need. wM1
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 02, 2015, 05:07:53 PM
Phil
 I used a yellewboy carbine in 45 colt to take a nice Doe a few years back . I used Unique powder and a 250 grain bullet , shot her in the neck  . She may have ran 30 yards . She was about 50 yards when I fired . One shot one kill .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 12, 2015, 01:43:58 PM
Howdy
Hope everyone has had a chance to shoot their rifles . Hunting season is close at hand . I plan on shooting this weekend . I like to shoot at several distances . I start at 25 then 50 then 75 and finish up with 100 yards . I hunt in the woods and usually stay at 50 yards or less . The Buck I shot last year was at 65 yards .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Molasses Mike on September 19, 2015, 07:30:59 PM
Got this boar running in the woods. Shot three times while he was running,all hits, he dropped on the third. Used black powder sub. Distance was about forty yards.
                                         Molasses Mike
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 21, 2015, 08:41:33 PM
MM
Nice Hog . Thanks for the picture . And welcome to Vintage Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 05, 2015, 08:10:40 PM
Howdy
The weather is starting to cool down ,are you ready for hunting season ? Have you been out shooting , can you knock a flea off a dogs ear . And never touch the dog . They really appreciate that . I have my Meister bullets loaded and ready . Are you ready for Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 11, 2015, 06:58:29 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to go shooting . I shot my Vintage Hunting ammo and it shot great . I am ready for Deer season  .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 11, 2015, 07:11:12 PM
Howdy
Let's try it again .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: chuckerbird on October 12, 2015, 11:11:47 AM
Rowdy, if you don't mind me asking, what size Meister bullets are you using?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 12, 2015, 06:18:44 PM
Chucker
I am using a .430
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: chuckerbird on October 13, 2015, 07:03:36 AM
Thanks. I'm getting ready to place an order. Will order a 100 pack and try them.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on October 13, 2015, 08:54:32 AM
You should really slug your bore first, to find out what you need. might save you some $$.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: chuckerbird on October 14, 2015, 07:32:28 AM
That's what I keep telling myself.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 14, 2015, 11:54:08 AM
Then why not do it? It only takes a few minutes.

Generally though, the 429 or 430 is going to work if it's a newer gun. All newer ones I've checked are .429 bores. If it's an original or an older Uberti it definitely should be slugged.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Good Troy on October 14, 2015, 01:38:30 PM
I hesitated (procrastinated) slugging the bore of my 45-70.  Wasn't quite sure what to use.  Finally, I flattened a lead round ball for my 44 cap and ball (0.451" smashed to over .462") and drove it down the barrel with a wooden dowel and mallet.  I wish that I would have done this when I first bought the rifle.  I was getting terrible accuracy, and found out why when I slugged the barrel...I was shooting 0.02" under-bore bullets.  She groups fine now that I'm using the proper sized bullet!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2015, 11:37:57 AM
Howdy
Got a chance to shoot the other day . I was shooting my Vintage Hunting Ammo . The 44wcf is an Excellent shooter . The 200 grain bullet traveling at 1300 fps does a great job .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 28, 2015, 05:59:15 PM
Howdy
Deer season is almost here . I have planned my Hunt down to my wool socks . The ammo is loaded  , my rifle and pistol are READY . I have even sharpened my knife . I'm ready are you ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on October 28, 2015, 06:09:02 PM
Not as ready as you Rowdy , but I'm working on it. Have you got a bigun located ? Hope ya do! Good luck on your hunt Rowdy.,,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 29, 2015, 04:50:14 PM
Dusty
I seen a REAL nice Buck during Muzzle Loader season . I watched him in the thick brush never had a shot . And he was a little far for my ole smoke pole . That ole round ball rifle has take 20 + Deer , lots of good eating over the years . Hope all the Deer in Texas didn't drown after that big turd floatin rain yawl got .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: M113A3 on November 01, 2015, 11:00:10 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to shoot the other day . I was shooting my Vintage Hunting Ammo . The 44wcf is an Excellent shooter . The 200 grain bullet traveling at 1300 fps does a great job .

At what range did you get this group?  Can you tell me more about this vintage hunting ammo.

Thanks
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 04, 2015, 05:13:09 PM
M113A3
I think the distance was about 50 yards . I use starline Brass and Triple 7 powder and a 200 gr. bullet ( .430 ) I wanted a round that was shooting at the same velocities as the original round .I have a 1875 Winchester catalog and it list the 44wcf at 1325 fps . If you use Triple 7 do not use 3f it is HOT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 11, 2015, 03:03:15 PM
Howdy
It's almost Deer season .Who's ready , got a chance to shoot a few rounds today . Hope everyone a safe and fun filled hunting season . Don't forget to take pictures . Remember a pictures worth a thousand words .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Oregon Bill on November 20, 2015, 08:20:36 AM
Beautiful whitetail there, Rowdy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 21, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
Howdy
I hunted for 8 days . I had to work to get this one . The weather was rainy and the creek flooded . I camped and had a Great time .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on November 21, 2015, 09:55:17 PM
Nice buck, Rowdy, well done!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 23, 2015, 06:04:28 PM
King
Thanks for the kind words
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Oregon Bill on November 24, 2015, 01:02:20 PM
Rowdy, that's a buck to be extra proud of, taken with your 73. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on November 25, 2015, 05:11:36 AM
Congratulations Rowdy ! A fine buck taken the old way. Cant get any better than that my friend! ,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: El Tio Loco on November 26, 2015, 08:44:30 PM
Congrats Rowdy!  Good looking buck.  I hear you can eat right up to the bullet hole with those slow moving bullets.  A nice finish to your hunt.
Ken
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 27, 2015, 10:14:21 AM
Howdy
Thanks everyone . There is only a few of us who realize how good of cartridge the 44wcf is . But what sold me on the 44wcf was last year . The Buck I shot was down in 20 yards and when I field dressed it the lungs were like 2 big blood clots . That was impressive . A lead bullet traveling at 1300 fps did that much damage .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on November 29, 2015, 07:47:26 PM
 Very proud of you Mr. Fulcher.

 It's amazing how hunters have "progressed" to the point that they think they need gigantic cartridges to kill a deer. All it STILL takes to kill a deer are holes through both lungs. It really is that simple.

 I've been hunting this year with a Bisley repro in 45 Colt. I'm absolutely determined to get a buck with it. Here at the house I've had a couple of opportunities at bucks that weren't legal, and have passed three times on does, all within my 50 yd. range limit. The last time just this evening. We're coming out of a horrible drought and I just can't bring myself to shoot a doe until populations increase.
 
  I've come into possession of a couple of '73's in 38-40 that are 1880's vintage. One I intend to have the barrel relined then it will become my one of my deer rifles. I chronographed some 180 gr. bullets over a compressed charge of Pyrodex P a few days ago and was stunned that five shots averaged 1386 fps. That ought to work just fine!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 30, 2015, 04:38:21 PM
CHT
Thanks , we all love our 73's . And these weapons work fine . I love shooting my rifle and try to shoot at least once a week . I have hunted Deer for a long time . Killed my first Buck back in 79 . He was a 6 pointer and I was Proud of him .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on December 07, 2015, 02:46:13 PM
Rowdy,
Nice harvest! Congratulations! Your persistence paid off in another beautiful buck! ;D
I read where the cartridge you used was loaded with 777 and a 200 gr bullet.

A few questions if you don't mind.....
How did it compare in size to your buck last year?
Whose bullet did you use?
Hardness if known?
Penetration?

Thank you,
w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 09, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
W44wcf
This years Buck was a 1 1/2 year old , last years Buck was a 4 1/2  . He was a nice Buck but no Monster Buck . I use a Valiant Bullet that I use when Cowboy shooting . The Triple 7 doesn't need black powder lubed bullets . The bullet passed through both Deer and I am happy with it's performance on both Deer . Plan on going after another  Buck next year with my 73 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: w44wcf on December 14, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
Rowdy,
Thank you for the information. Nice harvests! ;D

If you would like some soft 427098's to use next year, let me know.
I'll be molding bullets probably Feb or Mar.

w44wcf
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 14, 2015, 04:37:26 PM
W44wcf
Yes I would . I would love some soft lead bullets . Also where is a good source for sling swivels . I have used muzzle loader slings but would rather have a set of swivels on the rifle .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
Howdy
Do we have any Coyote hunters among us . When the Deer hunting is over I love to hunt Coyotes . What is your favorite Coyote load for your 73 ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 21, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
Howdy
I made a butt stock cartridge slide to hold 10 rounds of ammo .   Will post pictures later hopefully with a coyote . ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 31, 2015, 03:11:31 PM
Howdy
plans for 2016 ? I would like to work up a Black powder load for my 73 , would like to try ole E . I would also like to work up a smokeless load and even work with a jhp . I have used Triple 7 in the past and it has done an Excellent job . I'm hoping for more Vintage Hunters . And by having all the loads covered the biggest question is what will I wear .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 09, 2016, 02:40:32 PM
Howdy
I would like to have all three loads worked up for the 2016 Hunting season . The reason being if you want to Vintage Hunt with a 44wcf there will be a load for you . No excuse for not Hunting .
                                                     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 10, 2016, 10:29:49 PM
 I have an 1866 sporting rifle with a ladder sight (YIPEE!!) on the way. Can't WAIT to start loading and shooting and have about 200 gleaming lead bullets from a recent casting session waiting to go. My usual MO is to get some meat in the freezer with one of my modern guns (because eating comes first) then hunt with one of my Colt repros. But, next season I may deviate and use the '66 instead of a revolver. Too bad I have to wait 10 months to decide!! FWIW I'm sitting here with a steaming bowl of soup made with venison stew meat. To. Die. For!

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 14, 2016, 08:33:08 PM
Howdy
Congrats Cholla on your yellow boy rifle . What caliber did you go with ? Well   Deer season is over for the year , it's time to turn my attention to Coyotes . Planing on working on a black powder load for my 44wcf . Will keep you posted on the results .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 14, 2016, 09:32:35 PM
Howdy
Congrats Cholla on your yellow boy rifle . What caliber did you go with ? Well   Deer season is over for the year , it's time to turn my attention to Coyotes . Planing on working on a black powder load for my 44wcf . Will keep you posted on the results .

It's a 44-40. It's an older Uberti, '90's, but it's been slicked up, hope it's accurate! Has the ladder sight which I'm pumped about as I have a 200 & 300 yd. range at the house so I hope to find a good load and regulate the sights for those ranges. I post pictures as soon as I get it.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2016, 06:43:33 PM
Cholla
A Yellowboy rifle in 44wcf you will really enjoy that .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 16, 2016, 11:43:03 AM
Cholla
A Yellowboy rifle in 44wcf you will really enjoy that .

Continued here:http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,56777.0.html
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 16, 2016, 03:26:49 PM
Howdy
I have finally got my hands on some Olde E . Will be working up a Vintage Hunting load with it . Looking forward to working with the Olde E .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 24, 2016, 04:30:10 PM
Howdy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 25, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to go Coyote hunting yesterday . Didn't see any coyotes , but we watched a bunch of Deer . But Deer season is over for this year . I always enjoy getting out and hunting in the snow .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 20, 2016, 03:42:35 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to work with Old E and things look real good . The Velocities were fast 2f at 34 grains were 1280 fps and the 3f averaged 1390 fps .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: nativeshootist on February 21, 2016, 04:10:16 AM
i admire your spirit.....and your shooting skills!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 21, 2016, 11:46:58 AM
Howdy
Today I tried 35 grains of 2f .The velocities were Great . First shot was 1304 second was 1303 and last shot was 1298 . The Old Eynsford powder is working real good .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on February 21, 2016, 08:49:00 PM
Howdy
Today I tried 35 grains of 2f .The velocities were Great . First shot was 1304 second was 1303 and last shot was 1298 . The Old Eynsford powder is working real good .

 Good stuff, Rowdy. I too find velocity spreads pretty low with the Swiss 3Fg I've been using. I don't weigh my charges but My velocities are similar to yours. I was able to achieve right at 1400 fps with my 220 gr. RNFP loading a heavily compressed charge (2.6cc) of 3Fg, but found loading easier with a little less powder (2.2cc) and that load averaged 1331 fps. Good enough.

 Keep the reports coming!

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 25, 2016, 05:23:43 PM
Howdy
Shot this Coyote at 50 yards . I called him in and the 73 did the rest .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on February 25, 2016, 08:18:02 PM
 Good shooting, Rowdy.
 If you like shooting coyotes, you need to visit Texas. It's not at all unusual to hear two, and occasionally three packs carrying on at once from my house. I see them almost daily, but as long as they stay away from the house and the chicken pens, and don't bother the cattle, I leave them alone.

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 26, 2016, 09:33:18 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to burn a little black powder after work . Wanted to try a different 3f load . Wanting to run in the lower 1300's so I tried 33 grains of 3f ,They were in the 1340 range . When I got home I got my #13 to clean up and it was empty so I grabbed a bottle of windex and it actually worked better than my old 13 .

Cholla
I enjoy coyote hunting it's a challenge to call in a coyote . Especially close enough to use a 73 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 03, 2016, 04:27:21 PM
Howdy
My 73 and a NCOWS pistol by USFA .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 19, 2016, 09:20:23 AM
Howdy
I have been loading old E and using Chey Cast bullets .  This will be the load that I hunt with this fall . I am happy with there performance .My goal is to take a 170 + class Deer with this load .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 08, 2016, 04:33:58 PM
Howdy
The weather has been warming up , who's been out shooting ? And better yet , has anyone been chasing coyotes .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 21, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
Howdy
The weather is getting warmer , and luckily it's warm and not smoking hot . Hope for a little dryer weather we have had lots of rain . I plan on working with different loads for my 73 . I have a smokeless load , a BP sub load , and a  old  E load . My plan for Deer season is to hunt with the old E load .

I have posted a picture of a group fired from 50 yards using triple 7 and a Hornady xtp bullet .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 28, 2016, 09:48:18 AM
Howdy
I have a load of Old E and the Chey cast bullets waiting to be tested . The old E has Great velocities and is fairly clean . Like to use it on ground hogs ,they love the young soy beans . And the Farmers don't like that at all .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 18, 2016, 03:20:50 PM
Howdy
We need your favorite Vintage Hunting pictures . You and your favorite hunting weapon ( 1873 ) and your favorite hunting duds .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 26, 2016, 11:15:39 AM
Howdy
Your Vintage Hunting pictures are a chance for everyone to show off there weapons and clothing . I thought this would be something for the summer to entertain us till hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 30, 2016, 02:58:20 PM
Howdy
I found a picture of a Doe I killed in 2005 . The Yellow boy was in 45 colt . That was the gun I shot almost every weekend at Cowboy shoots . So I decided hey let's hunt with it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 07, 2016, 05:07:02 PM
Howdy
Have you got your load ready for Hunting season ? Deer season will be here before you know it . So far this summer I have worked on a few loads . I retried a H4227 load only to remember I didn't care for the unburned powder . The old E is a excellent powder for black powder ammo .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on August 12, 2016, 12:33:25 AM
 I'm pretty much a handgun hunter these days (4 3/4" Uberti .44 Special) but I'm thinking seriously about carrying my '86 production 1873 Winchester to the stand with me this year. The load would probably be 2.2cc of Swiss 3F under a 192 gr. RNFP from an RCBS 40-180 mould. MV is right around 1300 fps. Should work fine.

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 13, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
CHT
Sounds like you have a good load . Thanks for posting , and good luck this fall . Hope you get that Monster Buck of a life time . Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 27, 2016, 02:41:47 PM
Howdy
I have a few soft lead bullets coming that I want to try with old E powder . Soft lead bullet and a good load of black powder looking for that Special Vintage Hunting load . I have started planning my 2016 hunting season and have a week on vacation to use in Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 11, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
Howdy
Plan on shooting after work . I can't wait to try my new loads . I am wanting to see if the soft lead bullets bump up to fit my rifles bore ? Deer ( rifle ) season is only a few weeks away , I can't wait .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2016, 11:23:21 AM
Howdy
Finally got a chance to try the soft lead bullets with the Old E powder . Things look real good so far . I only have 49 of these bullets so I am wanting to save at least 20 for rifle season . Deer season will be here in about 2 weeks . Hope the weather cools down today the temp is supposed to be about 80 , wonder what Mother Nature has up her sleeve ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2016, 07:46:13 PM
Howdy
Who's ready for Deer Season . I plan on shooting this Saturday and season opens Next Saturday . The old 44wcf is ready and so am I .

I hope ole Swamp Buck's Brother shows up.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on November 03, 2016, 07:50:43 PM
Howdy
Who's ready for Deer Season . I plan on shooting this Saturday and season opens Next Saturday . The old 44wcf is ready and so am I .

  I think I am. I normally hunt with a Uberti SA .44 Special but am thinking  this year I'll carry my 130 year old 1873 Winchester 38-40 to the stand. 1.9cc of Swiss 3Fg under a 193 gr. cast FP shound work fine, I'd think.

    CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 17, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
Howdy
No Monster this year . But we will eat good .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 17, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Nice, Rowdy!  Thanks!

CC Griff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 25, 2016, 05:04:09 PM
howdy
Plan on Doe hunting tomorrow . That will be my last chance to hunt with a cartridge rifle . There is muzzle loader season in Dec if I don't take a Doe tomorrow . Hope everyone is having a successful and SAFE Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 27, 2016, 08:33:01 PM
Howdy
Deer season is over today . Don't know where the doe's went . Now it's time to chase ole Wiley Coyote ,them critters will keep you guessing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 13, 2016, 10:06:17 PM
Howdy
Well Deer season is almost over , so it's time for coyote Hunting to start . Here is a picture from last season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2016, 07:34:19 PM
Howdy
Here's one that didn't get away .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: 58cal on December 26, 2016, 07:32:59 AM
So.....my family is going wild pig hunting in SW Texas this spring.
They'll carry AR-15s with special pig scopes. Haha!
I'm considering opting for my Marlin Cowboy in 44-40.
Got a solid scope sighted for 100yds.
Very accurate thanks to John 44wcf.
I have 240 gr standard and hollow point blackpowder rounds.

What do y'all think? Happy New Year.

Mike Arthur
Charleston, SC.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 26, 2016, 07:48:09 AM
  I'd stick with the standard rounds. Hollowpoints are nice but have a tendency to limit penetration.  Good luck on your hunt!

  CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on December 26, 2016, 07:55:01 AM
Cholla's right the solid will be much better,,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 26, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
58
Good luck on your pig hunt . Let us know how the weapons performed ie 5.56 verses the 44wcf ? Are your 44wcf bullets soft lead  Also take lots of pictures . Happy Hunting
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 26, 2016, 09:37:43 AM
So.....my family is going wild pig hunting in SW Texas this spring.
They'll carry AR-15s with special pig scopes. Haha!
I'm considering opting for my Marlin Cowboy in 44-40.
Got a solid scope sighted for 100yds.
Very accurate thanks to John 44wcf.
I have 240 gr standard and hollow point blackpowder rounds.

What do y'all think? Happy New Year.

Mike Arthur
Charleston, SC.


  Wait...you said "wild pig" and SW Texas. Are you hunting hogs or javelina? The latter are much smaller than your typical feral hog and I wouldn't hesitate to use a hollowpoint bullet.

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: 58cal on December 26, 2016, 08:55:27 PM
I think it's s pig
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on December 27, 2016, 07:31:13 AM
Yep, thats a pig. Nice shootn.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on December 27, 2016, 10:02:08 AM
Nice eating size pig right there! Picture looks like it could have been taken on my place up on the divide ! N/W of San Angelo Tx. Good Shooting ,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 27, 2016, 10:05:05 AM
I think it's s pig

  Yep....for sure a pig!

   CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 28, 2016, 02:53:07 PM
58cal
Thanks for posting the picture and congratulations on your Hog hunt . We would love to here all about your adventure .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: 58cal on December 28, 2016, 05:32:51 PM
Thanks but I'm not going until late March. That's a picture of a recent sW Texas pig hunt. But I will take my 44-40. Thsnks y'all. 🏆🏆
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 31, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
58cal
Good luck in March . Be safe have fun and take lots of pictures .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 07, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
Howdy
Well it's 2017 which means Winter Hunting is in full swing . The COLD weather makes hunting for long periods of time very difficult . We have all Froze out , but pre hunt planning can make your next hunt an enjoyable one .Remember hands feet and head are your biggest heat loss .Keep these warm and you will have a more enjoyable hunt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 01, 2017, 10:45:21 AM
Howdy
Well spring is finally here . There are Coyotes and Ground Hogs to hunt . I spotted a few ground Hogs out of there den a few days ago . Sure would like to use my 44wcf on them . Hum I aint ever had smoked Ground Hog ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 12, 2017, 05:32:07 PM
Howdy
Found a picture from last Deer season . It was a nice sunny fall day .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coffinmaker on May 13, 2017, 07:52:38 PM
Has/Have/Will/Does anyone else notice just HOW LONG Rowdy has been keeping this thread alive??  Pretty soon we're gonna run outta fingers  :o ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Slamfire on May 14, 2017, 01:18:18 PM
"YO",,Rowdy...Keep it going,,at least someone is getting to do what more of us "should "be doing.







  If ya' got'm smoke'm,,,Thank's Hootmix.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on May 14, 2017, 04:06:48 PM
Has/Have/Will/Does anyone else notice just HOW LONG Rowdy has been keeping this thread alive??  Pretty soon we're gonna run outta fingers  :o ;D

And rightly so coffin dude.  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Carlsen Highway on May 19, 2017, 05:48:19 AM
It is an honour to be able to contribute to this thread. When you search for hunting with the Winchester 73, this is a thread that comes up often and so I have come across this thread many times since I am a both a .44-40 fan, a lever action fan, and like to use them for hunting. (I actually just did my first CAS match last weekend also too)

I bought this Uberti '73 short rifle six weeks ago, it has a 20'octagonal barrel. I load it with soft lead cast bullets from an Accurate Mold designed by John Kort (W44WCf on this forum), his 43-215C and 36 grains of 3F black powder. This gets me 1200 - 1220 fps which is about right, this will shoot 5 shots into 3 inches at 100metres with the factory sights.
Rarely have I been so excited to receive a rifle. And I have had a lot of rifles in my time, but I was really looking foward to this one. As well, it came just n time for a hunting trip I had planned to the mountains the next week. The deer here are European red deer, same species as American elk.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/Carlsen/seaforth_zps8fb6af37.jpg)

on this trip I shot two red deer hinds, both looked the same below. (My camera died after this one photo, it was the only picture I took on the whole trip) Both were shot with black powder .44-40 loads replicating the original ballistics of the cartridge.

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c271/Carlsen/hind1_zpskisdqx6a.jpg)

I found that despite the low velocity, and the soft pure lead, the bullets all exited. The first deer above was shot once and died only a few feet from where I shot her. A second deer shot later I had to shoot again because I shot too high - the wound was mortal I discovered later, but I wasnt waiting to find out, because I was experiencing what black powder shooters knew better than me, because of the cloud of smoke when I fired, and with open sights, I wasn't sure exactly if I had hit the deer where I intended, and I didnt get to see the the animals reaction to the shot  as one might with smokeless modern rifles. So I payed the insurance, as they say.
So all bullets completely exited going through and through. I ddint autopsy the deer properly, I would have liked to see exactly what the bullets did, but it was getting dark soon and I was a long way from camp.

I was well pleased with how the .44 Winchester performed. I carried it a great deal, as the hunting where I am is all backpack hunting, and shifting fly (spike) camps often, and with many river crossings and climbing up ridges through thick bush too. I am glad I got a short rifle, as a 24 inch barrel might have been too heavy for carrying, I am pleased with it as it is.

I am also pleased with the performance of the black powder load and bullet, I cant see where these deer would be any deader if I shot them with my .270. And I got a real kick out of this rifle shooting black powder...the thumping concussion of it is always impressive.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on May 19, 2017, 06:17:05 AM
  Beautiful pictures and many congrats on your kills! Where are you hunting?

  I knew there was another hunting thread here somewhere. Now that I've found it, here are my two most recent using my old '86 production 1873 Winchester 38-40 using a bullet cast from an RCBS 40-180 mould (192 grs.)  and as much Swiss 3Fg as I could get under it. Velocity 1300+ as I recall.

   Last fall:

   (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/3%20point_zps9n2ntijz.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/3%20point_zps9n2ntijz.jpg.html)

   A few weeks ago:

   (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Gobbler_zpschqunhns.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/Gobbler_zpschqunhns.jpg.html)

  CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on May 19, 2017, 07:59:53 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 20, 2017, 09:11:30 AM
Howdy
Thanks for posting your pictures . We all love our 73's and we love hunting with them . And as we have all seen a 44wcf is a effect Deer cartridge .  I want to thank John Kort for all of his hard work and help with the 44wcf .
                ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coffinmaker on May 20, 2017, 11:46:06 AM
Hummmm ....... Well ...... That second picture is a really funny lookin Deer,  CHT   ;D

Coffinmaker
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 03, 2017, 07:27:23 PM
Howdy
The Ground hog hunting has been successful . I have taken  two pigs with it so far . The 44wcf has worked Great .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on July 03, 2017, 09:10:16 PM
I've killed several deer with a muzzleloader that I've built from parts, not a kit. It's a very satisfying achievement. I wish I was still hunting. It would be neat to use a 73 or 76 to harvest a deer. I love the photos. Congratulations guys.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 06, 2017, 07:52:30 PM
Howdy
Who's been working up a load for their favorite 73 caliber . I have an Excellent load with olde E and I also have a good load with Unique .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on September 07, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
  I just ordered a pound of Swiss 3f and a pound of d Eynsford 2f for my 38-40's and 44-40's. I have loads for the 3f but am hoping the 2f will work to reduce velocities for CAS shooting.

  CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 22, 2017, 07:58:40 PM
CHT
They are both Great powders . I have loads loaded with both . Plan on using the old E for Deer Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 10, 2017, 08:31:53 PM
  Been watching this scrub buck for a few weeks waiting on the weather to cool down so he could hang before butchering.

  (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/scrub%20buck_zpsfa2gwedh.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/scrub%20buck_zpsfa2gwedh.jpg.html)

 I keep the rifle loaded and THOUGHT the magazine was full of BP loads, but for some reason I had filled it with smokeless handloads. Oh well, it's the thought that counts, right?

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on December 10, 2017, 10:12:13 PM
Good job! Good meat for the freezer. I must be getting old, my eyesight getting bad, but that sure don't look like any 73 I've ever seen.  ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 10, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
Good job! Good meat for the freezer. I must be getting old, my eyesight getting bad, but that sure don't look like any 73 I've ever seen.  ;)

 Well...it's not an 1860 and it's not an 1873, so I split the difference!

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on December 11, 2017, 08:58:00 AM
44-40 I presume? I have one just like it. What is your load?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 11, 2017, 09:11:41 AM
44-40 I presume? I have one just like it. What is your load?

  That particular load is 9.5 gr. oF Unique. It and the BP load of 2.2cc of Swiss 3Fg are ballistic twins giving practically identical velocities.

   CHT
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 11, 2017, 04:23:37 PM
Good harvest. I've got a rifle just like that myself in 44wcf. Mine has never seen anything but black powder.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 11, 2017, 06:39:58 PM
Good harvest. I've got a rifle just like that myself in 44wcf. Mine has never seen anything but black powder.

  Thanks. BP in this rifle has shot very well. I'm still at a loss as to why I had it.loaded with smokeless unless it was at a point when I was out of Swiss 3Fg. Anyhow....I'll remedy that soon.

   CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 08, 2018, 12:02:48 PM
Howdy
Deer season is almost here who's ready .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on September 08, 2018, 02:47:33 PM
Howdy
Deer season is almost here who's ready .

  Yep! Been practicing with my Uberti Frisco  and already checked the Yellowboy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: scrubby2009 on September 08, 2018, 09:40:47 PM
Got tags, got my survivor twins and some quick-moving 2400 smokeless loads, hopefully the middle fork of the Feather River will be down a couple of bucks next month.(http://)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on September 09, 2018, 07:21:07 AM
That stock looks like it's got a story or two to tell. What's the rest of it look like?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: scrubby2009 on September 09, 2018, 10:57:15 PM
That stock looks like it's got a story or two to tell. What's the rest of it look like?
I wish I had a great story for the stock. All I know is that it was $60 on GunBroker. The rifle came to me with a bandsawn piece of oak for a stock when I was 11. we'd moved off the family "patch" into town and I missed my gramps fierce. So he gave me this old relic for a toy and to connect me and him while I lived in town. That was in 1979. This last year I started piecing stuff off of eBay and GunBroker, put the  old bastard back into service. Here's a couple more pictures.(http://)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 11, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
Howdy
Looks like we are all getting ready . I can't wait to fry up some fresh tenderloin . I am out of Jerky , but if I can get my sights on a Doe in a couple weeks I will fix that . Just hope the temp don't get mega HOT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 19, 2018, 09:19:45 PM
Howdy
Well I finally got my rifle out and shot it . Hey it still works . She still prints a nice group at 50 yards . I even broke out my Cimarron 44wcf and shot a nice group at 15 yards . This rifle pistol combo works Great .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 07, 2018, 06:18:21 PM
Howdy
Today I went to my Hunting camp . The weather is HOT , it sure doesn't feel like Hunting season . I was checking my stands and blind . I wish the Deer was as thick as the mosquitoes . Rifle season will be here in a month . I sure hope it's cooler then . Has anyone done any Scouting ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Jake C on November 13, 2018, 11:36:52 AM
Howdy all,

Rowdy, just wanted to say thanks for this thread - it's been fun and informative reading. I'm going hunting with my father & step-brother next week, and this thread inspired me to take my Uberti 1873 sporting rifle in .44-40. I figured I'd rather take my first deer with a rifle that is truly special to me than borrow a gun. Loading up cartridges now. Full charge of 3F Olde Eynesford under a 200 grain big lube bullet.

Not expecting to have any luck, but I'm very excited for the experience and the chance to do things 'Old School.'
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 17, 2018, 05:04:20 PM
Jake
Good luck and Happy Hunting . I killed a 8 point Buck yesterday . Nice Deer but no monster . I can't get my pictures to down load ? Oh well I've got all winter to figure it out . I think you will love Hunting with your 73 . The  44wcf will do a great job good luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Sarge on November 18, 2018, 05:00:21 PM
Rowdy,
OUTSTANDING!
You gotta give more than than, detail wise. Please!
Distance, what bullet, hit location, how much penetration?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Jake C on November 26, 2018, 08:36:03 AM
Howdy all,

Unfortunately, no luck. There were deer about but none came by our (my family's) stands. That aside, it was a nice little trip, and I think I've been bit by the bug. I'll look into hunting here in good 'ol Kentucky next season; the in-laws have plenty of farmland and they saw a ton of deer on the same morning I was hunting, so maybe I'll have better luck up here.

Hope you all had successful hunts!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on December 03, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
Rowdy,
Thank you for the update on the bullet performance.

Savvy Jack recently tested.44-40 original bullet (pure lead) and a 75/1 lead tin mix over b.p. in ballistic gelatin.
Interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0cfvsruBuQ&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPrCl02R7E&feature=player_embedded

http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/team-44-40/148227-clear-ballistics-gel-44-40-a.html

w44wcf


I have the videos back up on youtube but have different address now.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5bplooWWnaT1z4kL1YWUVfnzkKMhN3b6
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 11, 2019, 07:27:36 PM
howdy
This is the 2018 Deer .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on January 11, 2019, 07:29:12 PM
NICE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 10, 2019, 10:41:11 AM
Howdy
Here is another picture of my buck . We have been feasting on Deer steaks and they are Excellent .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coffinmaker on February 11, 2019, 09:40:10 AM

Some time back, when I was hanging around and hunting in Montana, a fella dropped a real big buck.  Put his rifle across the rack for the obligatory photo documentation.  All of a sudden the buck shook his self, jumped up and ran off with the rifle.  Took 'im three days to find the rifle.  Never found the buck. Least wise that was the story.  Must have been some fun!!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on February 14, 2019, 09:46:04 AM
Kind of an anachronism there with your 1873 next to your four wheeler. Nice buck.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 06, 2019, 06:14:06 PM
Ed
 I gave up dragging (by hand ) Deer out of the woods 25 years ago . That ole 4 wheeler makes getting your Deer out of the  woods easy work compared to hand dragging .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Oregon Bill on April 03, 2019, 11:20:28 AM
Rowdy, my hand dragging and/or packing out days are over. Absent a mule, an ATV is an elegant solution.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 19, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
Bill
Your right hand dragging a Deer is an Excellent way to have a Heart attack . The farm that I hunt on is a mile off the pavement .   on the wet years I use the 4 wheeler to minimize the damage to the dirt road . Now if you shot a nice Buck and was hand dragging  all the way up to the vehicle ?
Well that wouldn't be healthy or smart .Can't wait for Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on April 19, 2019, 01:20:30 PM
My hunting bud had permission to hunt the huge fields across from his house so his hunt involved riding his bicycle down the field roads, stopping every so often to glass the soybean fields. He was meat hunting not horn hunting so whenever a curious buck would stick his head up to figure out what that thing on the field road was my bud would lay it down with his trusty .243. Drag the deer to the road, pedal back to the house unlocking the gate and drive his El Camino to the deer, load up, drive back home and process the deer. His wife made the best tenderloin biscuits.  Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: shrapnel on April 25, 2019, 09:02:03 PM


Here are a few critters taken with a few 1873's...

(http://i.imgur.com/7nSWUCB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/7nSWUCB)

(http://i.imgur.com/8tvlLoy.jpg) (https://imgur.com/8tvlLoy)

(http://i.imgur.com/zVERcin.jpg) (https://imgur.com/zVERcin)

(http://i.imgur.com/aCfyhjk.jpg) (https://imgur.com/aCfyhjk)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on April 25, 2019, 09:12:42 PM
Hey, Shrapnel, am I seeing a .22 '73 there?

CC Griff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: shrapnel on April 25, 2019, 11:07:12 PM


Yes, it is a 22 Long and has a shiny bore, shoots great...
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 28, 2019, 08:23:50 PM
Shrapnel
Thanks for posting the pictures . You always post excellent pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 18, 2019, 09:09:32 PM
Howdy Pards
Well Deer season is almost here . I am ready for another season of Hunting . I am Planning on shooting this weekend ,need to blow the dust out of the barrel . Has anyone been shooting lately ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 28, 2019, 02:49:03 PM
Howdy
Got a chance to go shooting . She still shoots like a charm . I enjoy sitting steel targets at different yardages and shooting fast and drilling my targets dead center .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on September 28, 2019, 04:39:44 PM
Glad to see this topic still rolling. I have been shooting a few times but wont get to hunt till probably late November early December.

Yes, I too like shooting a few different loads too but I just am not good enough to get that dead center shot...lol

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 30, 2019, 08:20:31 PM
Bryan
I love shooting my 73 . And I enjoy shooting at Targets at different ranges . And when I hit the center , it makes for a Great day . I haven't shot a cowboy match in several years but I gave it hell for 20 years .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 08, 2020, 01:26:15 PM
howdy

well the weather is HOT ,and Deer season is months away . But it will be here before you know it . I need to load up a few rounds and go shooting when it cools down .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 13, 2020, 07:24:14 PM
Howdy
  who's gonna drag there 73 out Deer hunting . Plan on using my 73 , you can't beat the 44wcf .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on August 13, 2020, 07:37:20 PM
Howdy
  who's gonna drag there 73 out Deer hunting . Plan on using my 73 , you can't beat the 44wcf .

I only get to hunt three days a year if I am lucky :-(
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on August 13, 2020, 08:40:12 PM
Might be buying some property with my son soon that has a ton of whitetail sign on it. There’s got to be a big buck on it. The rub is that my daughter in-law is a big animal lover. I also am an animal lover, venison that is. Venison is an animal right? I hope that I can twist her arm and harvest at least one off of it. Ones aplenty. I don’t think that I’d use my ‘73 but maybe my ‘76. We’ll see.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 14, 2020, 08:30:55 PM
BE
Wish you the best of LUCK . Your 76 will do an Excellent job . You can't beat Deer jerky .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on September 15, 2020, 07:41:18 AM
Might be buying some property with my son soon that has a ton of whitetail sign on it. There’s got to be a big buck on it. The rub is that my daughter in-law is a big animal lover. I also am an animal lover, venison that is. Venison is an animal right? I hope that I can twist her arm and harvest at least one off of it. Ones aplenty. I don’t think that I’d use my ‘73 but maybe my ‘76. We’ll see.

Why?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: King Medallion on September 15, 2020, 09:29:48 AM
Why not? I would.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on September 16, 2020, 09:32:59 AM
Thanks for the encouragement but I would have to actually work up real hunting loads as opposed to cas loads, very different things imo. Accurate with power loads as opposed to easy shooting minute of sass marshal at point blank range loads. I was thinking more about using the ‘76 or ‘95 or maybe my Krag for the extra power and range. My last deer rifle was a .25-06 Sendero but after selling it I did harvest a few deer with my M1. Having the much larger acreage to stretch out my rifle range will allow me to do some ammo development this fall. Couldn’t do that on an acre and a half. Used to go to my company’s 100 yd range at their employee center but the new owners have closed the range down.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on September 16, 2020, 09:40:30 AM
Thanks for the encouragement but I would have to actually work up real hunting loads as opposed to cas loads, very different things imo. Accurate with power loads as opposed to easy shooting minute of sass marshal at point blank range loads. I was thinking more about using the ‘76 or ‘95 or maybe my Krag for the extra power and range. My last deer rifle was a .25-06 Sendero but after selling it I did harvest a few deer with my M1. Having the much larger acreage to stretch out my rifle range will allow me to do some ammo development this fall. Couldn’t do that on an acre and a half. Used to go to my company’s 100 yd range at their employee center but the new owners have closed the range down.

Ahhh, now I follow ya!!  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 25, 2020, 09:35:37 PM
Howdy
We are weeks away from Deer Gun season . Shot my rifle yesterday still shoots good but the sights are getting harder to see .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Slamfire on October 26, 2020, 04:36:10 AM
Hey Rowdy,, I also have noticed , the more & longer I store my rifles w/o shoot'n um, the fuzzier the front sights get ,, hmmm,, may be on to something here ???? ::)


  coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on October 26, 2020, 06:40:14 AM
Getting old ay folks? Is it time to run down Missionary Ridge?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk1cFLwqBNM
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on October 26, 2020, 08:28:20 AM
Howdy
We are weeks away from Deer Gun season . Shot my rifle yesterday still shoots good but the sights are getting harder to see .
         You aint fooling me Rowdy , I'll bet when you see that Ole buck , you'll squint them eyes and make it count ! Good Luck and I hope you see another big-un !,,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 29, 2020, 05:51:19 PM
Dusty
I have my ammo loaded with olde E 2f . That seems to be really good Powder . Hope things in the lone star state are all good . Hope you find a Monster Buck to put a bullet in . Bryan hope the 3 days you get to hunt are the BEST .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on October 30, 2020, 10:00:53 AM
We bought the property. Should become a nice homestead if I live long enough. 11 acres field- 23 acres old hard woods- newer pine woods that butts up to something called Flat Swamp. The peanuts are gone now and the farmer is doing winter wheat next, soy beans in the spring I’m guessing. Plenty of room to sight in a rifle or two. Working on cleaning up the overgrown old house sight that’s on it. House is gone just the footers, trash, fireplace, pump house and shallow well left. Exactly one hour away from me. Hoping the strong winds from the leftover hurricane took down two dead trees on the house sight yesterday.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: DeaconKC on October 30, 2020, 10:16:30 AM
It looks great! Congrats on such a nice place.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: dusty texian on October 31, 2020, 05:57:47 AM
We bought the property. Should become a nice homestead if I live long enough. 11 acres field- 23 acres old hard woods- newer pine woods that butts up to something called Flat Swamp. The peanuts are gone now and the farmer is doing winter wheat next, soy beans in the spring I’m guessing. Plenty of room to sight in a rifle or two. Working on cleaning up the overgrown old house sight that’s on it. House is gone just the footers, trash, fireplace, pump house and shallow well left. Exactly one hour away from me. Hoping the strong winds from the leftover hurricane took down two dead trees on the house sight yesterday.
Congratulations BE , nothing like hunting your own land , and having your own private range . ,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 01, 2020, 08:03:10 PM
BE
The winter wheat is a plus . The Deer love green stuff and in the winter the wheat will be green , when most stuff is dead . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Diamond Jake on December 04, 2020, 07:05:31 PM
I shot this 11 pt Whitetail just about a year ago.  Uberti '73 in 45 COlt.  It was the very first time I carried it in the field.  It was a light rainy day and I was a bit worried about the blood trail, but it was no problem.  Thirty yard heart shot...he ran about 100 yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDNQgVDzAuc

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Baltimore Ed on December 04, 2020, 08:58:47 PM
Very nice deer. Good shooting. Enjoyed the video.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting with the 1873
Post by: Bryan Austin on December 04, 2020, 09:12:00 PM
NICE!!! ;D