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Title: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 22, 2009, 07:59:30 pm
Howdy Pards
How many NCOWS members are Hunters ? I know that some of our members enjoy hunting with Cowboy guns . And some members even use Black Powder Cartridges and enjoy looking the part of the Hunters from the 1870-1899 . This would add a little extra spice to the Shootist with a monthly article on Vintage Hunting ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: James Hunt on November 23, 2009, 02:35:09 pm
Vintage hunting. No, no..., the clothing and rifle are new - it's the hunter that is vintage.

(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x80/Jhunt67/HuntWy2004031.jpg)

Before the economy went south I would hunt each fall in the hole-in-the-wall country west of Kaycee. Often I would use a BP cartridge rifle, spent the night in a my cowboy teepee and eat poorly. I always butchered my own deer. Most folks in Michigan seem to pay someone else to do it for them. The sooner I shot a deer would mean the sooner I would get to go to Cody and stay the rest of the time at the IRMA.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Jed Cooper on November 23, 2009, 02:41:16 pm
Rowdy, I have been toting  my 66 in 440-40 real bp loads. No luck yet. Trying again in the morning.    Jed
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dedwood Dave on November 23, 2009, 03:31:04 pm
Some of you guys might remember this. It's not exactly a cowboy gun.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dedwood Dave on November 23, 2009, 03:32:05 pm
Some of you guys might remember this. It's not exactly a cowboy gun.
Sorry about the size. I don't think I can do anything about it.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: gw on November 23, 2009, 05:37:14 pm
A timely subject Rowdy. I just got a reply today from the DNR as how to proceed in petitioning them to get BPCR rifles allowed for deer hunting here in Indiana.  Actually, I haven't got the procedure yet, just an acknowledgement that they will forward my request to the top guy at DNR.  I always wondered why an inline muzzleloader shooting a plastic saboted bullet with some sort of pelletized powder(not black) was acceptable but an original Sharps in say 45-70 was not.  ???  Another example is the sabot shotgun round of a 300grain ballistic-tipped jacketed bullet at 2000 fps.. ..how can that be safer to use than my old 500grain cast bullet plodding along at 1350 fps??? Maybe we can get this changed for next years deer season, sure gonna try.
 
Rowdy, I have been toting  my 66 in 440-40 real bp loads. No luck yet. Trying again in the morning.    Jed
  Good luck to ya Jed, maybe next year you can try that Sharps! ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 23, 2009, 05:53:55 pm
Howdy Pards
Sounds like were all on the same page of music . Good luck GW hope you can get that changed so you can use BPCR to Deer hunt .
James Hunt
Good picture ,love that cabin .

Good Luck to all the Hunters out there.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on November 24, 2009, 08:09:07 am
Rowdy, A couple of years ago I took a whitetail with my Marlin 44/40. However it was not blackpowder. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: gw on November 24, 2009, 04:36:27 pm
Rowdy, A couple of years ago I took a whitetail with my Marlin 44/40. However it was not blackpowder. Tj

      Shame on you TJ !!!!!!! ;D    I was thinkin the same thing this year with my Marlin in 45 but didn't get it done in time. :-[


        Nice photo James,  maybe with an 'ol buffler gun you wouldn't feel so "vintage".   :o
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 25, 2009, 10:57:19 am
A picture is worth a million words.  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Jed Cooper on November 25, 2009, 01:07:18 pm
OUTSTANG!!!!!!   Good job Rowdy..  How far?   Did he run?  More info :D :D    Jed
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ottawa Creek Bill on November 25, 2009, 06:08:30 pm
Some of you guys might remember this. It's not exactly a cowboy gun.

No...but yer dressed right!

Bill
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ottawa Creek Bill on November 25, 2009, 06:13:20 pm
I plan on getting out during muzzle loading season with my 54 caliber French flintlock rifle....gonna dress as period as I can and still be legal.

Bill
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 26, 2009, 07:43:35 pm
Howdy Pards
I plan on filling my Doe tag tomorrow . And yes I will be in proper Vintage Hunting attire . The day I shot the Buck I was scouting after work in preparation for the next day when all of a sudden THERE HE WAS . I shot him and the adventure began . He ran straight for the SWAMP . I tracked him to where I found him laying in the edge of the water so I pulled him out of the water and then got on my cell phone and called a friend and ask him to come and haul him out of the bottoms with his four wheeler . The shot I made on the Deer was a neck shot but a little low . I like a neck shot because if you hit the spine there is no tracking and that is a good thing . The Deer was at 50 yards which is about as far as you can see through the woods after last years ICE STORM .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Buffalow Red on December 04, 2009, 05:25:39 pm
i shot a doe & a 5 point buck this year with my 66 yellow boy in  44-40.  both deer were shot with a 2oo g mav duthman boolit on top of 30-33 grains of 2 ff.  both were about 30-40 yards, both deer took 2 rounds .  boolits not recovered.  neather one left a good blood trail . i allmost didnt find the doe , it was just luck as i had no trail to follow. the buck went 50 yards & piled up after 2 nd shot. i was disapointed not to find boolits as one didnt exit the deer but seemed to dicentregrate when it hit the front shoulderas i found a lot of lead piceses.
next year i plan to try my trap door in 45-70
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 05, 2009, 08:17:56 pm
Howdy Pards
Well Deer Season for the Rifle Hunter  is over . Muzzle loader season starts next saturday . If I get the chance I plan on hunting . I still have a doe tag to use . Would be nice to have a doe to make summer sausage out of . Be safe and Good Luck  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 09, 2009, 10:19:28 am
Howdy Pards
This Saturday Muzzle loader season comes in . Plan on taking my old smoke pole and trying to fill my doe tag . Will try to take a few pictures . Hope everyone is having a safe and FUN filled hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 09, 2009, 12:36:40 pm
Rowdy, our ML season ends today here in WI. We tried a few days of hunting it, but deer were scarce around my place after the regular gun season ended just prior. Hope you have good success!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on December 09, 2009, 12:54:42 pm
Rowdy, enjoyed you article on the trapdoor carbine. Keep up the good work on reviews. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Skeeter Lewis on December 09, 2009, 02:31:17 pm
+1. I get a kick out of your great reviews.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on December 09, 2009, 09:55:55 pm
Well, I'll add a little here.

As many of you already know, I'm pretty much a city boy ... but I'm tryin' to correct that.

Last year, I had the good fortune to be invited to go deer hunting with my pard Jed Cooper (Dave Hollandsworth).  My first deer hunt.  I was dressed just as if I were going to the National shoot (plus the obligatory safety orange) and I had nearly 40 grs of pure Black pushin' 250 grs of soft lead out the barrel of my (Uberti) 1866 Winchester Sporting Rifle.  I was ready.


Now this tale would be much better if I had actually gotten a deer, but alas, I didn't even see one.  I DID see a dog, but ... he was safe from me.  I didn't (wouldn't) shoot him.


But I sure had fun!

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 11, 2009, 05:44:36 pm
SH
Sounds like you had a GOOD time .Maybe next year will be your year to see that big ole monster buck . ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on December 11, 2009, 09:08:42 pm
Got a good whitetail buck last weekend. Dropped him after he got up and ran. The "vintage" aspect of my hunt is that I walk around & shoot game using a smooth-bore shotgun, open sights, while standing on my hind legs.

Unfortunately, many vintage firearms would not be legal under the rules around here. I could use any rifle I'd like in the late January season. By that time, most deer hereabouts have moved to the big timber. Our seasons get started a bit later than most states and your limited to hunting ONE normal firearm season.

Glad to hear some of you have more options, even if you seem to have less deer available  ;D

Regards,
Slim

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 20, 2009, 02:37:33 pm
Howdy Pards
Hope Santa brings everyone a NEW Hartford 1878 Shotgun with a 26 inch barrel . These will be Great for at the Shoots , or in the field .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 01, 2010, 07:26:05 pm
Howdy Pards
I plan on a Coyote Hunting trip tomorrow even though the temp is suppose to be in the single digits . I plan on using my Trap Door Carbine . I plan on lots of walking and the TD is really nice and light for packing . I finally have a Saturday off and plan on Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on January 02, 2010, 12:46:10 am
Happy hunting, Rowdy!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Texas Lawdog on January 02, 2010, 02:59:13 am
Those coyotes might not accustomed to BP smoke.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: gw on January 02, 2010, 07:13:56 am
Update on my attempt to get BPCR rifles approved for deer hunting in Indiana...... the response from the DNR is that a decision on allowing BPCR rifles will be made by the end of February. I would guess thats when they issue the 2010 season rule book for hunting. They never did ask about minimum calibers, black powder only, rifle-caliber lever guns etc. etc. Lord only knows what they might come up with on this! ???  I certainly hope they do the right thing, but I can't help but think they may not. If I hear anymore from them I'll get a post on here as soon as it happens. Good Hunting! ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Texas Lawdog on January 02, 2010, 12:27:01 pm
I'm not much of a hunter anymore, so I'm not up on the hunting laws in Texas.  I remember that you were not allowed to hunt with a .223 rifle. I don't know if that is still in effect. I think we still have a Bow season before the regular Deer hunting season.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2010, 04:12:21 pm
GW
Keep me Posted on the BPCR hunting , Hope it passes for all the Vintage Hunters in Indiana . I was the only thing moving today , guess the coyotes are smarter than the Hunter .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on January 02, 2010, 07:32:35 pm
 ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

 ;D


Crafty critters, ain't they?!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 08, 2010, 05:58:22 pm
SHB
Well it's really cold out there , so I have taken a break . Also the Hartford 1878 hasn't arrived yet . It will be a new addition to the Coyote hunting arsenal . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 30, 2010, 08:11:10 pm
Howdy Pards
 I came across a new piece of hunting gear that is Great . I was in need of a hunting cap that would keep my ears warm . I ordered a Railroad Cap from beaver brand hat co. When I got the cap  it was similar to a cap my grandfather was wearing in a picture from the late 1890's .
Now my Biggest problem is keeping my feet warm the ole time boots look great BUT they won't keep my feet warm . My danner's work great . Any suggestion for warm feet and period correct . HELP
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 02, 2010, 10:40:23 am
Howdy Pards
I have a Wool military trench coat ? that I have been wearing while I hunt , it's great and was a bargain . I purchased it from Sportsman guide for $29.00 . If your in the market for a WARM  winters coat that's cheap on the wallet Here you go .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on February 06, 2010, 12:58:28 pm
A LOT of those surplus Military coats  from SG are good bargains.  Just watch out: one of us former Cold War sojers may have flashbacks and start preppin' to fire, if yer wearin' some former ComBlock clothing!

 ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Texas Lawdog on February 06, 2010, 01:03:05 pm
One round, HE, Fire for Effect!  ON The Way!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Will Ketchum on February 06, 2010, 07:48:56 pm
One round, HE, Fire for Effect!  ON The Way!

I have a Fire Mission

Will Ketchum
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 06, 2010, 07:51:40 pm
Will
shot over , shot out .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Will Ketchum on February 06, 2010, 07:59:33 pm
Off topic but I must admit as a Marine I always preferred close air to artillery.  Just something about hearing the voice crackling in your radio..."coming in HOT"  and seeing a couple of F-4s coming in just over the tree line :)

Get Some!!

Will Ketchum
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 06, 2010, 08:17:52 pm
Will
What about Danger close .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Will Ketchum on February 06, 2010, 08:58:14 pm
Will
What about Danger close .

With napalm if you can't feel the heat it ain't close enough.

Will Ketchum
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dr. Bob on February 07, 2010, 01:19:35 am
I guess napalm is vintage hunting of a slightly different kind! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 07, 2010, 11:16:11 am
Doctor Bob
Well maybe a red neck thing ? I prefer a Hammered double with a black powder loaded 12 gauge shell .
Ole Tom turkey doesn't know the difference between smokeless or black .
The FUN thing about Vintage Hunting is trying to relive the adventures of our forefathers . Some people may call it living History
the main thing is to be safe and have FUN . What's your opinion on Vintage Hunting what type of gun and ammo do you prefer ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 01, 2011, 05:25:48 pm
GW
What's the word on BPCR for Deer Hunting in In.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on January 02, 2011, 12:21:40 pm
I make a few struts through the countryside each year with a vintage-type gun (but my modern cothing). I have a few original doubles plus pumps/lever action shotgun & made a couple boxes of BP loads with #4 shot & "O" buckshot. Have dropped a number of crows, pigeons & other pesky critters down at the farm. Hard to find pheasants anymore...seems the Turkeys have taken over. Mght do a turkey hunt someday. BP slug loads are a possibility someday. The coyotes are out there, but often come out of the brush wher I can't see them...need my son to help me corral one.

Using vintage clothes could pose a problem in they'd probably get torn-up pretty well given the enviroment I hunt. Warm vintage boots & gloves would be an issue for me too. My feet get cold if I'm not wearing heavy pac-boots during most of the cold months...my hands are a bigger problem & all these guns have manual hammers and levers to operate & fit the gloved hand in.

HAppy hunting,
Slim
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on January 02, 2011, 01:53:14 pm
Rowdy, For keeping the feet warm. Get a pair of war Between the States treckers from Hamilton's. They come a little big and wide. When it is really cold and I wear my wool blues, I wear those shoes. Two pair of really warm or wool socks. This will be the ticket. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Monday Creek Kid on January 04, 2011, 10:43:40 am
Well I guess it is a little earlier than Cowboy times but I shot a 6 point buck with a .54 cal flintlock rifle during Ohio's gun season.  Used a patched .530 round ball, 80 grains of Goex 3f and an english flint for ignition.  Sort of stopped all of the Daniel Boone Jokes that I listened to at lunch time.
(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af245/TommyBruce/buckdown2.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on January 04, 2011, 05:20:54 pm
Good shootin', Monday Creek Kid!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 05, 2011, 12:50:41 pm
MCK
That's exactly what I call Vintage Hunting .Congratulations on your Buck . Thanks for sharing your photo . Have you made any Jerky yet ?  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 08, 2011, 10:59:13 am
During muzzle loader season I carry my 1858 Remington for an up close shot and a fifty cal. rifle for those farther away. 

When I want to do a vintage hunt during modern firearms season I don't take a cowboy action gun but I take a model 94 carbine in 32 special. Since I've always got a handgun on me I hate to be carrying a rifle in a handgun caliber also.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Monday Creek Kid on January 11, 2011, 09:05:56 am
I wish we were allowed to use rifles in Ohio.  Most of the shots that I have are within 50 yards, I think a lever gun in .44 mag or .45 colt would be just the ticket. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 'Monterrey' Jack Brass on January 12, 2011, 02:55:41 am
Fellows – Though neither Maria and I bagged anything, here is a picture of her and I made on my wetplate set-up just before we went vintage hunting last Fall in south central Michigan. We hunted for a bit on state land adjoining a living history event where she and I set up as Victorian era sporting hunters.

(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k507/gschult3/MariaandGreginlate1870shuntingattire.jpg)

Our wall tent in the background of above photograph is furnished early to mid 1880s, the shotguns are period to the era - of course we had BP shot shells, the period sporting outfits we made and are documented to the late 1870s per catalog illustrations in my case and a carte de visite in Maria’s.

Though we didn’t get any small game I thought I’d post the picture as a reminder of our 2010 vintage hunting experience. We’re planning on doing it again this Fall. Wish us luck!

Brass
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Monday Creek Kid on January 12, 2011, 07:06:26 am
Very Cool picture Jack!!  I would love to experience a 19th century hunting camp. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on January 12, 2011, 11:08:50 am
Outstanding, M.J.!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Texas Lawdog on January 12, 2011, 11:12:57 am
Bro. MJ, It's nice that you and your wife have a hobby to share. Those are great looking outfits.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2011, 05:50:32 pm
MJB
Excellent picture . That's what Vintage Hunting is all about . Hope we have more pictures of other Hunters .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 27, 2011, 11:13:15 am
Howdy
Hunting season is almost here . Hope to see a few Articles in the Shootist about your Vintage . Have a safe Hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on October 27, 2011, 11:20:19 am
Took my '76 out last week and did some sighting in and refresher shooting to get ready for this deer season. She performed pretty well at 80 yards with 3" groups the norm. Next week the '86 Browning gets a refresher shoot/sight in session - just in case I need a little more ooompfff with the 45/70 loadings, but I don't see it as being necessary ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Kayleen on October 27, 2011, 12:45:27 pm
For almost 12 years now I have gone deer hunting with my shotgun that I use for cowboys/girls. Out of those 12 years I can tally 14 deer.( One that won a spot on my wall.)  I love the hunting season and thank God for kids that tolerate their  Mother and mother-in-law.
Be safe and good luck to all.
Kayleen
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ima Sure Shot on October 27, 2011, 05:10:58 pm
I got a squirrel with my front stuffer black powder 12 gauge double.  French Jack said it died of smoke inhalation!!!!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on October 28, 2011, 10:35:20 pm
I got a squirrel with my front stuffer black powder 12 gauge double.  French Jack said it died of smoke inhalation!!!!

Second hand smoke, no doubt  ;)

Slim
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Steel Horse Bailey on October 29, 2011, 06:11:34 am
... cough, cough!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on October 29, 2011, 10:04:28 pm
Yes, black powder can be deadly, more so if you are standing in front of it. Tj   :D  ;)  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 01, 2012, 06:11:17 pm
Howdy
What guns are you Hunting with ? Do you use a Winchester 1873 in 44wcf ? If so are you hunting with Black Powder or Smokeless ?
Do you purchase your ammo or do you reload ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2012, 02:01:14 pm
Howdy
Deer season is over , so it's Coyote season now . Hope everyone a safe Coyote season . What is your favorite Vintage Coyote gun ?
See ya at the Convention .
     ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Trap on January 15, 2012, 07:09:41 pm

  Don't hunt coyotes, But I shoot all my upland birds with a Parker Bros GHE grade, patented 19th C but actually made in 1923.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 18, 2012, 02:42:35 pm
Trap
How was Pheasant season ? Hope there was plenty of birds to shoot .

I was out today looking for Coyotes , seen one but he was about 300 yards so didn't waste no 44wcf on him .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 16, 2012, 11:16:59 am
Howdy
Today is a Hot day for being outside . So after finishing my outside work retired to the comfort of the AC .Have started planning on Hunting season and getting everything ready . Planning on the Camp looking perfect . Will have my Guns and Ammo ready for the Hunt and my favorite skinning Knife ready .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 22, 2012, 12:04:25 pm
Monterrey Jack Brass
I loved the picture you posted . That is what Vintage Hunting is all about . I hope we have pictures of all the Vintage Hunters .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 17, 2012, 01:15:06 pm
Howdy
Well the weather at present is HOT and miserable . But while we are hiding from the heat this could be a great time to start planning for the fall season .This is a good time to check your Hunting clothes , for some reason they shrink over the summer . You will need to figure out you footwear . Most will wear boots and some will wear moccasins . Don't forget to water proof your foot wear . Having wet feet on a cold day sucks . Have you sharpened your hunting knife after last season . By starting now you can avoid that last minute rush . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 14, 2012, 05:25:26 pm
Howdy
The weather is getting Great .I shot my 1873 today and it shoots great . I hope the ammo from Powder Inc. gets here soon I am almost out . I can Legally harvest 4 Deer with my rifle . Hope everyone is ready for Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 15, 2012, 09:37:23 pm
howdy yall,
 hope yall dont mind me chiming in here. i've gotten to the point i get more enjoyment hunting dress period correct and using period correct guns as well.
 here are a few of my trophies taken using period correct guns loaded with period cartridges, or as close as i can get in this modern time.

this doe was my first kill with my 44-2 1/4 c.sharps. loaded with black powder of course. she walked out the last few minuets of shooting light at 40 of my steps

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1522.jpg)

here is another doe taken with my c.sharps

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1523.jpg)

both does fell where they was standing.

here is a young buck taken with my henry rifle. it was cold as blue blazes that morning, he came out shortly after daylight. days like that makes you appreciate a short hunt


(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1530.jpg)

here is a young doe taken with my old i.a.b. sharps business rifle in 45-70. she sure was tender

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/45-70doeoctober272010.jpg)

a old doe  i killed with my .54 caliber hatfield.

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/HPIM04561.jpg)


if yall aint noticed i am a proud meat hunter and that old red calico shirt is my lucky hunting shirt. i even wear it if im hunting with modern guns. im so ready for hunting season to start i think im about to go crazy


Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on September 16, 2012, 08:58:44 am
Buckskin Billy, Great pictures. Good huntin this season. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 16, 2012, 11:23:23 am
Buck Skin Billy
Great pictures . Now that's what Vintage Hunting is all about . I hope this upcoming season is a great success for you . Thanks again for sharing you pictures with us .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on September 16, 2012, 12:48:52 pm
Buckskin Billy, I've got a shirt just like yours. Mine has a big tear in the back, sewed up and still going. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ottawa Creek Bill on September 16, 2012, 04:52:24 pm
Buckskin Billy....great photos......

OCB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on September 16, 2012, 05:17:35 pm
Thanks for the photos Buckskin Billy. Thats what hunting is all about . Have been through the trophy stage with high tech. Last few years have been useing the Winchesters and Sharps any animal is a good one  . Hunting season is around the corner .Hope I will be posting Photos soon .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on September 17, 2012, 10:31:35 pm
Backyard hunting at my family's farm a few weeks ago.

We haven't made many visits in past year or so...and as such the varmints are unchecked in their brazen moves into the machine sheds, yard and even tunneling into/under the trees and the flower garden.

Groundhogs a plenty.... I shot two with my 1866 Carbine, 44-40 BP loads. I took one while she stretched out for a nap in the barn. Was nearly dark, but I saw the outline and a red-glow of the eye. Took quick aim on that eye and moved the sights back a shade, then fired - Bullet went in the right ear and passed out the left. Losts of sparks flew - Felt lucky I did not light the barn on fire. Next morning one was out sunning on the concrete next to the barn...he's resting permanent-like, now.

Didn't have a camera along...maybe snap one next time. I was unable to get in a position to haul the remains out. I'm sure they'll be undisturbed next trip.

Brother-in-law asked if I saw any of the big ones...thinks I need my Sharps Rifle next trip. One of the big-ones was winged last fall with a .223, passed through and the hog recovered. Bad news is they still have 5-10 hogs living around the house/bar/sheds...good news is I have a hobby when I visit.


Slim
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 18, 2012, 10:47:50 am
Slim
I fill that you will prevail in you Ground Hog quest . Being armed with a 44wcf they don't have a chance . Happy Hunting  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 19, 2012, 09:47:54 pm
we been having some cooler weather down here in north eastern louisiana. been teasing me these last few days. it stays like this and i'll be getting my traps out to dye and wax.
 we do period trapping camps as well. sometimes for the fur trade era and sometimes latter. here are a few pictures of some of our period catches.

a couple of beavers,the one on the left weighed in at 48 pounds. and as with most beaver catches they aint easy to get to. had to belly crawl just to make that set. lots of fun belly crawling while dragging a frozen wet beaver and traps and other plunder.

 (http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/mybeavers1.jpg)

here are a couple more beavers on a spring excursion. luckily my trapping pard brought his two boys with him to help out. they were like 13 or 14 years old then they are 18 now, and both are world class trappers

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/3-16-08028.jpg)

a picture of our camp and a pretty good fox catch. 4 grey fox 1 red and one very mean coon that left scares on a few of us. check out the blunder bus. we call our trapping party the limp bull fur company, cuz we usually come limping home after a 3 day camp ;D

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/largepicofthelimpbullfurcompany.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 12:12:11 pm
Buckskin
Great pictures , as usual . Do yawl barbeque those Beavers ? They are mighty tasty  that way . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on September 20, 2012, 02:08:17 pm
Rowdy, I don't know about the beaver,but the coon would be. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 04:28:09 pm
TJ
If you aint ate Barbecue Beaver you have missed out . But it don't taste like chicken .  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 04:44:40 pm
Howdy
There is a rumor that Powder Inc. is going to have Vintage ammo for our Hunters . As soon as I know the facts will post for everyone . If we can get them to do this , that will be great . Now who has the best looking Hunting Outfit , just snap a picture and show us .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 20, 2012, 08:50:50 pm
Buckskin
Great pictures , as usual . Do yawl barbeque those Beavers ? They are mighty tasty  that way . 

well you got  bar b q beaver, smoked beaver, boiled beaver, fried beaver ;D. bbq beaver aint near bad but i usually freeze the carcass and save it for bait. bobcats are kookoo for beaver meat. i perfer coon over beaver anyhows but coon meat is saleing for 8 bucks a pop i rarely keep any for myself.

doubt any one wants to see my hunting out fit. my old brain tanned pants are bloody and grimy and will almost stand up by thereself and have a pleasing fragrance  of smoked beaver castor and doe in heat ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 09:10:57 pm
Buckskin
Now that's what I call a Vintage Hunting Outfit . Does Louisiana have a Bear season ? And if it does do you Bear Hunt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 20, 2012, 09:23:29 pm
no there aint no bear season yet. at the 2011 louisiana trapping convention the powers that be said they were planning on having a lottery bear hunt by 2014, but it would be south of i-10. im a long way from from there. im right outside of monroe.
 i see one every once in awhiles. a guy i know had one pictured on one of those trail cameras not far from where i hunt.. i sure would like to draw a bead on one sometime
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 20, 2012, 09:54:18 pm
Buckskin
We have  had a Bear season for the last couple of years . There is Hunting over in the Eastern part of the state , that's also where they released the Elk . What a dream , go to the Mountains and kill a Bear and a  Elk . Now there would be enough meat for the winter . Wonder if there would be enough leather in a Elk to make a Hunting Frock ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 20, 2012, 10:30:13 pm
rowdy , it takes a pretty good elk to make a coat out of it.

this is a bull elk i started brain tanning for a guy and haven't finished yet. i hope to get back on it this fall. the hide measures out to be just a little shy of 40 square feet. im six foot 1 inches tall and that frame is 11 foot square. this picture is taken right after i scraped the hair off. just to give you a idea of the size of the hide.

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/elk4.jpg)

here is a picture of my braintanned hunting frock i made from 4 deer hides that measured 10 square feet each. as you can see the frock is right at  waist length and i had to get a little creative on laying out the pattern. this'll give you a idea of what you're getting out of 40 square feet of animule flesh

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/100_0611.jpg)

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/100_0612.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 21, 2012, 12:50:19 pm
Buckskin
Again great pictures . The weather tomorrow is picture perfect for the Red Brush shoot . I plan on wearing Elk skin pants and my buckskin shirt . And I plan on shooting Outlaw class IF they will let us . I plan on shooting my 44wcf in rifle and pistols . I guess I better bring my shotgun along in case they have a problem with the Outlaw Class . Will try to get a picture to post .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 23, 2012, 12:02:17 pm
Howdy
What  would a vintage hunter carry with him , say on a 3 day hunt . Rifle, ammo, knife, possibly a pistol . The late Ben Lilly traveled lite , they claim he carried little or almost no food . When he killed something he would basically founder himself . What do we really know about what they did a140 plus years ago ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Blair on September 23, 2012, 12:22:50 pm
Rowdy,

This is just my opinion, but, I would assume, (we all know about opinions and assumptions) it would depend a great deal on the type of hunting you were doing.
Example; upland bird hunting compared to Buff hide hunting.
Just a thought on my part...
  Blair
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 23, 2012, 10:28:53 pm
Blair
Upland bird or waterfowl any kind of hunting can be Vintage hunting . You can even do a vintage squirrel or rabbit hunt .  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Blair on September 24, 2012, 03:31:49 pm
Rowdy,

Sorry, for intruding.

Enjoy! ;D ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on September 24, 2012, 06:38:22 pm
Hey Rowdy ,when I figure out what is gonna go huntin and what is gonna stay . I`ll try to send a pic . I will bet they will not be as nice as Buckskin Billys . Just joking BB. PS. Hey Rowdy ,I cant wait for rifle season either Amigo !
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 28, 2012, 11:40:30 am
Dusty
The cool mornings have started causing me to dream  about the Monster Buck in the swamp . Now ole Swamp Buck is a monster that is seldom seen . He is able to stay out of sight and when he's seen it's only for a few seconds . Some say he is the spirit of a Indian Chief that guards  the swamp others say he is only a myth . I was hunting once and saw him chasing a doe and by the time I raised my rifle they were gone .
Muzzle loading season opens in late October , I got my ole smoke pole out and fired it a couple times . Had to get some patching material . I usually use pillow ticking , but they were out so I tried some canvas . It's thicker and seems to work better for a tighter shot group . I have taken 19 deer with this ole muzzle loader . When people say that round balls won't shoot through a deer what are they thinking ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on September 28, 2012, 10:55:59 pm
Dusty
The cool mornings have started causing me to dream  about the Monster Buck in the swamp . Now ole Swamp Buck is a monster that is seldom seen . He is able to stay out of sight and when he's seen it's only for a few seconds . Some say he is the spirit of a Indian Chief that guards  the swamp others say he is only a myth . I was hunting once and saw him chasing a doe and by the time I raised my rifle they were gone .
Muzzle loading season opens in late October , I got my ole smoke pole out and fired it a couple times . Had to get some patching material . I usually use pillow ticking , but they were out so I tried some canvas . It's thicker and seems to work better for a tighter shot group . I have taken 19 deer with this ole muzzle loader . When people say that round balls won't shoot through a deer what are they thinking ?

round balls has probadly killed more critters than any other kind of bullet.
 we had us some nice cool weather about a week ago, but that left. the humidity has come back and the temp is pushing up in the mid 90's. got a rendezvous next weekend and if'n this weather dont cool off any rendezvous is gonna be miseriable
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 02, 2012, 10:12:33 am
Howdy
Just wondering do you carry a sidearm with you while hunting . usually I carry a pistol during Deer season . During that time I like to carry my prewar 44wcf from USFA . Muzzle loader season comes in about 3 weeks , and rifle season comes in about 5 weeks . Hope everyone is ready , before you know it we will be at Hunting Camp . If it quits raining I plan on shooting my rifle today,practice , practice , practice .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 02, 2012, 07:53:40 pm
I used to carry a Pietta 1858 during muzzle loader season. Now I have a ROA that I carry.

Side arms vary during modern gun and they are not usually a NCOWS approved weapon. It depends on where I'm hunting and whatever I take the notion to carry with me. They range from Super Blackhawk 44mag, Super Redhawk 44 mag, SRH 480 Ruger, or a scoped SRH 480 Ruger. Once in a while I'll carry a Taurus Raging Bull with a red dot scope in 480 Ruger.

Can you tell I like the 480 Ruger round? ;D

A lot of times if I'm woods hunting and don't plan on getting over a 50 yard shot or so I'll just take a scoped handgun.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 02, 2012, 08:00:03 pm
Cliff
You need to slip your 44wcf rifle out to the woods and lay a few down .That's what we mean by SMOKED venison  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 03, 2012, 06:36:43 am
Cliff
You need to slip your 44wcf rifle out to the woods and lay a few down .That's what we mean by SMOKED venison  ;D ;D ;D

Rowdy, I'm really thinking of doing this in November at one of my hunting spots.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 03, 2012, 09:34:36 am
Cliff
I think this will be something you will enjoy . Just you and your trusty ole 44wcf . Now don't forget those photo's .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on October 03, 2012, 03:06:42 pm
Rowdy, Wonder how my Little Big Horn 45/70 Trapdoor carbine would work? Loaded with 55 grains 2f and a 405 bullett Tj  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 04, 2012, 11:54:09 pm
if i'm carrying my muzzleloader or my henry rifle i carry one of  two 3rd generation colt 1851 navies. if i carry my c.sharps or model '66 i carry one of two open top 44 colts. i have yet to make meat with my model 66, maybe this year. i got a blackpowdered frame peacemaker reproduction i carry with my winchester '76. this season will be my first season to hunt with the '76 courious to see how it does
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 05, 2012, 12:04:17 pm
Buckskin
Hunting season is getting close .  ;D ;D ;D I was out shooting my 1873's yesterday . I was trying a .429 and a .430 in my Uberti rifles
I was using Swiss BP at 50 yards they produced a tighter group . But my USFA prewar won't handle the larger bullet . But my  SAA USFA they are just fine . I will need to slug the barrel of the prewar to determine what size bullet it needs ? May have to open the cylinder a bit to accommodate the larger bullets ? a 200 grain bullet traveling at 1320 fps is not a bad woods round ,but with that said it's about shot placement . I also use a 1876 in 45-60 it shoots pretty good but it's HEAVY to lug around . Hope everyone is planning on hunting this year . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 05, 2012, 07:13:56 pm
Rowdy, is that 2 or 3f swiss and how many grains? I've shot big lube bullets in both .430 and .429 in my Uberti yellow boy and it doesn't seem to matter with KIK or Goex 2f. 

I know a many of whitetail have been taken with less powerful rounds I've just always said there is no such thing as too dead so usually hunt with more gun than necessary.

I put a stand in a new spot covering an area I've been watching a lot of deer the last two seasons but couldn't get shots for the heavy cover. I'm hoping for some bow range shots so with my 66 I could actually shoot them in the head on a close shot. No meat loss and no tracking on those shots  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 05, 2012, 10:40:37 pm
i agree that shot placement is everything. with my black powder loads i aim high on the shoulder. that usually breaks there back and the hunt is over. and i can eat right to the bullet hole, with soft lead bullets.
 that little spike i shot last year with my henry was less than 10 yards and for some reason i pulled  and hit him behind the shoulder taking out his lungs, he ran but not far and that 255 grain 45 colt bullet destroyed the rib cage on both sides.
 my 76 is in 45-75 caliber and is made by chapperal. so far i aint been to impress with its quality. got a heavy trigger pull gotta get that tended to
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 08, 2012, 08:58:51 am
Buckskin Billy
The season is changing . The leaves are falling and we are ready for ol Jack Frost . Jack Frost is our buddy because he takes care of the skitters  ;D .Hope the weather at season time is cool instead of warm . In the past we have had some warm hunting season which ain't great for hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 08, 2012, 11:35:19 am
Buckskin Billy
The season is changing . The leaves are falling and we are ready for ol Jack Frost . Jack Frost is our buddy because he takes care of the skitters  ;D .Hope the weather at season time is cool instead of warm . In the past we have had some warm hunting season which ain't great for hunting .
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Cliff
I am working with 3f , will keep you posted on the results .te]
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 08, 2012, 10:19:30 pm
its starting to cool off some down here. we had a mountain man rendezvous this pass weekend and it got cold at night with the wind blowing like it was. i could feel my neck starting to swell
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 09, 2012, 06:17:17 pm
Howdy
Today was a perfect day , We went to our Hunting cabin cooked steaks and shoot all day .I shot my 44wcf which was loaded with Swiss BP . I worked with .428 ,.429 , .430 bullets . Worked with several different loads of 3f . Shot at 50 yards and 100 yards also .
I shot 40  + rounds before running a patch . It still wasn't that bad ,  I used 2 patches and went back to shooting . At the end of the day the .429 seemed to out shine the other bullets . None of the bullets shot bad . I slugged my rifles last night and the bore slugged .429 so you would think the .430 would work the best . But the .430 did shoot a good group at 50 but not as good at 100 . The .429 gave the best at 100 yards and was still good at 50 . Now we are still testing so when we get the final results will let you know . Oh and the Steaks were Excellent .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 12, 2012, 10:07:36 am
Howdy
The weather is Excellent . Next weekend is muzzle loading season .Will take my ole trusty smoke pole out to try and take some fresh venison . Maybe NEXT year the laws will change letting hunters have a choice . It would be nice  to use a 1873 Winchester with a black powder load in early BP season . What's you opinion on this should we be able to use a black powder cartridge gun in the muzzle loader season  ? Don't forget that most of the modern muzzle loaders are the new fangled in lines which are scoped out 200+ yard rifles .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 12, 2012, 02:28:01 pm
Howdy
The weather is Excellent . Next weekend is muzzle loading season .Will take my ole trusty smoke pole out to try and take some fresh venison . Maybe NEXT year the laws will change letting hunters have a choice . It would be nice  to use a 1873 Winchester with a black powder load in early BP season . What's you opinion on this should we be able to use a black powder cartridge gun in the muzzle loader season  ? Don't forget that most of the modern muzzle loaders are the new fangled in lines which are scoped out 200+ yard rifles .


I cant see it ever going that way because the conservation officers wouldn't be able to prove what type of powder is in the cartridges unless they make you take them apart or shoot them all.

The argument would be you can reload the cartridge gun so much faster. It's true I can shoot my inline muzzleloader with a scope at great distances but its pretty much a one shot deal at a deer.

Personally I don't have much of an opinion since with the modern inline scoped muzzleloaders it has nearly defeated the whole purpose of the muzzle loading season anyway. Other than the follow up shot there isn't a lot of disadvantage under most shooting situations for Kentucky dear hunting.

I do hunt a couple farms where 200+ shots are very common and close to 400 is not an unusual but most of my hunting spots are under 100 yard shots.

You could scope a 45-70 with BP and handle most of the same shots we do with modern magnum rounds.

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 12, 2012, 10:59:02 pm
I took my TTN 12 ga 1878 with 26" barrels out for fall turkey. I'd had the barrels sent off to Colonial Arms for tubes, they did a great job. I'm running a full in the right barrel and a modified in the left, so far so good.  I got a decent sized tom in the spring, but no luck this fall. I did see a bunch of bushy tails while out turkey hunting so I tried a run at them the next morning with my uncle, we did alright.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 12, 2012, 11:36:12 pm
Howdy
The weather is Excellent . Next weekend is muzzle loading season .Will take my ole trusty smoke pole out to try and take some fresh venison . Maybe NEXT year the laws will change letting hunters have a choice . It would be nice  to use a 1873 Winchester with a black powder load in early BP season . What's you opinion on this should we be able to use a black powder cartridge gun in the muzzle loader season  ? Don't forget that most of the modern muzzle loaders are the new fangled in lines which are scoped out 200+ yard rifles .


louisiana did away with muzzleloading season and now have whats called a primitive season, allowing you to use any single shot rifle with a center hammer excluding the ruger no.1. you are limmited on calibre choices tho. such as .444 marlin and of course the almighty 45-70. you cant give a muzzleloader away down here any more. most people around these parts get a h&r handi rifle with a plastic stock with a 20 inch barrel and shoot hormandy leverlution bullets through this 6 pound carbine and cry cuz it kicks them to hard.
 it doesnt seem to primitive to me to take a plastic stock gun with a leupole scope smokeless powdered bullets with jacket rubber tip bullets out on a primitive hunt, and the locals call me weird
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 13, 2012, 08:33:07 am
Thats the problem, they try primitive and it winds up being more modern guns.

The more I think about it I hope they just leave things the way they are here in Kentucky. If a person wants to use BP in a cartridge we have all of modern gun season to do that. I use a handgun a lot of times then and a 44wcf black powder round is up to the task with a good hit. A 45-70 will do anything a 7 mag will do. Dead is dead.

My more traditional hunts during modern gun season usually involve me carrying my old trusty model 94 in 32 special. It is smokeless though but still is within the NCOWS timeline.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 13, 2012, 10:29:00 am
Howdy
Next Saturday is muzzle loading season . I have a Pennsylvania Hunter I have used since 1989 . I like Hunting with that rifle because that is how I THINK muzzle loaders should look ? But this is my spin , but if the next hunter wants to use the newly designed ML that's his choice . I think Vintage Hunting offers a chance to get back to a simple time  .

CarrsCreekKid
That was a fine mess of Squirrels you had there . Did you fry them or use them in Pot Pie , either way they are Excellent . Looks like you had a Wonderful Vintage Hunt . Thanks for the picture . Keep em coming .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 13, 2012, 03:58:31 pm
cck that is a tasty looking mess of squirrels. i just bought me a 26 inch barrel 1878 like yours. i'm rat holing money right now for some brass shells and one of those rcbs shot gun dies. i want to do the same as you did. get choke tubes and add it in as a regular hunting gun.  we start rabbit hunting after deer season closes so i would like to get me a pile of cotton tails and cane cuters with it this year. i would like to load some black powder shells with some buck shot and see what i can do with it deer hunting
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 13, 2012, 08:23:52 pm
They got fried up Rowdy! 

Buckskin: I'm really liking the TTN so far. Colonial did an awesome job on the tubes, I would recommend them if you're gettin' it done. I'm going to get me some brass shells also one of these days. I used federal game loads in 5's on that hunt. It's fun working the hammers and thinking about which barrel to use at different distances (little more involved than I'm used to). I hit one at a good 45 yards, I probably shouldn't have taken the shot but I misjudged it a little. I used the full barrel and one shot did him in, he was dead when he hit the ground. Hunting is good here in the Missouri Ozarks this time of year. Hope everyone has a good deer season this year!   
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 14, 2012, 11:02:43 am
Howdy
I had a TTN that the good fools at Colonial Arms put tubes in . They did an Excellent job . and that way you have a big selection of tubes to choice from . They offer Excellent Turkey tubes . The TTN with the 26 in barrels are an Excellent turkey gun . And with the Vintage shotgun shells those turkeys don't have a chance.

Got a chance to shoot my ole smokepole , had to double patch it to get the accuracy ? I was using the TC .15 patches and a.490 round ball . Has anyone tried the .500 round balls ? Heck they even have a .509 round ball ? Track of the Wolf have lots of muzzle loading stuff .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 14, 2012, 12:21:25 pm
i was going suggest you either try a bigger ball or a thicker patch. but not so much as you have to pack a hammer with you to load with.
 my old smoke pole is in .54 calibre and the mould i have for it is .535 and i have to use a very thin patch to get good accuracy. the problem i have is the thin patches burns up. i have to use some kind of wadding between powder and patch to keep that from happening.(wasp nest works good for this) i been wanting to try a smaller size ball like a 525 or something.

i been feeling under the weather the last few days and coughing alot, so yesterday i went to see the saw bones. he tells me i got the bronchitis. he gave me a shot and some medicines and then on the way out he asked if i hunt, to which i replied yes. he said i got some bad news for you, that cough could linger for as long as a month. hunting season starts in two weeks here and i got a cough. dern this bad luck
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 14, 2012, 05:48:11 pm
Buckskin
Hope you get to feeling better , this is a bad time of the Year to be sick , with Hunting season up on us . It might take a little hot toty and a good night sweat . Now as for the muzzle loader the bigger ball means a thinner patch and you don't want it to burn through . Do you use any lube on your patches ? Have you ever tried using the .530 ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 15, 2012, 07:16:37 am
Yeah I hope you feel better Buckskin! I always just used a ball .10 smaller than the diameter and the pillow ticking patches, I think track has http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/163/1/OX-18-50-D  I haven't shot the smokepoles much since I started hardcore reloading and casting, I won't shoot anything I didn't make now days but I liked the hornady round balls with those patches. Always had good luck with my blueridge and my hawken. When I was 14 or 15 my dad got me a traditions crockett rifle in .32, I used it for squirrel and rabbit. I just cut regular cotton cleaning patches into circles the size of the barrel, spit on the patch and rammed it in. Did a number on the bushy tails out to about 35 yards. I loved when my uncles would laugh at me taking the rifle when we left to hunt in the morning, they'd have their 870's or 11-87's , then see their faces when I'd come back with more bagged than they had! And with .32 round ball holes in their heads!!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 15, 2012, 10:40:10 pm
thanks yall,
 the doc gave me some powerful medicines. i cant take half of it cuz it makes me holler for ralph. but what i can take has made me feel better.
 i use to use bore butter for lube but like carrs creek kid i wont shoot nothing i didnt make,even lube. i have used a .530 ball and with a thin patch its still a bit too tight. a 535 ball is almost the exact size as the bore. in fact at rendezvous shoots i have shot without using a patch and didnt lose much of my accuracy. but the fouling was a little worst. i just cant bring myself to do that when the target is a living deer. if i cant kill it clean i'd rather count tree bark.
 since i got my c.sharps i kinda have pushed my old smoke pole to the side. this is my second season to hunt with. i've had my old hatfield for about 20 years now, it aint going no where
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 16, 2012, 07:34:01 am
Glad to hear you're getting better!! Amen to just shooting what you make, I'm to the point where I have more fun making the ammo than I do shootin it. I can't stand seeing ammo prices when I go to the store now either. The only factory ammo I'll buy is for my concealed carry guns
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 16, 2012, 05:22:10 pm
Howdy
Yesterday I got a chance to shoot my muzzle loader again . It shoots good if I use 2 of the .15 patches with the .490 round ball .
I have ordered a box of the .500 round ball , they won't be here for Early season . Has anyone tried the larger balls , In the past I have used the .495 and they were ok , But I'm out of them . So as I had to order anyway thought I would try the larger .500 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on October 17, 2012, 09:34:32 am
Rowdy,
I shoot the .490 ball with a .15 patch also. I tried a .18 patch, but it was just too hard to seat the ball with that thick of patch. If you go to a .500 ball you will need to go with a thinner patch. I shoot 80 grains of Swiss 2f powder in a Lyman Great Plains rifle. Going out today to practice and check the zero of my rifle. Muzzle loader season starts the 10th of Nov in Oregon.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ima Sure Shot on October 17, 2012, 09:55:58 am
CarrCreekKid, Are you from the CarrCreek area of Ky?  We are, my husbands uncle played on the famous Carr Creek bbteam of 56.Ima
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 18, 2012, 10:13:17 am
Ima, actually it's a place in southeast Missouri where my family farm is. It's in Shannon county down in the Ozarks right off the Current River.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 19, 2012, 11:27:56 am
Howdy
I received a couple samples of Vintage ammo to test . These are loaded with .429 bullets . Will  test them on Monday  . Will be at Deer camp the next 2 days . Muzzle loader season comes in tomorrow ,will hunt with my Pennsylvania Hunter . Hope to stock up some fresh venison .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 19, 2012, 12:33:30 pm
Good luck Rowdy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on October 19, 2012, 01:03:03 pm
Good Luck there on your hunt Rowdy. WT. season starts here in Tx. Nov. the 3rd.  Mule Deer season starts here in Tx. Nov. 23rd. Been practicing with the 45-75 ,76 for Wt. and the C. Sharps 45-120 scoped with RHO 6 POWER .for The Mule Deer, those Mule Deer shots tend to be on the long side . Hey that Swiss 2ff is great . Tightened up the groups on both rifles . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 19, 2012, 08:22:02 pm
wanna know  whats cruel? tomorrow is opening day of primitive deer season in louisiana and the boss called today and said "gonna need you to work tomorrow" to which i said. "today is my last day" to which he said "reguardless i need you to work tomorrow" i wont repeat what i said from there but im sure i made a sailor or two blush.
 got 20 rounds of 44-2 1/4. my lucky calico hunting shirt is airing out, and ill be putting in 8 hours tomorrow.
 next weekend regular gun season opens but you can rest assure that this child will be in the woods with my sharps
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 19, 2012, 10:06:13 pm
Yeah I think I'm going to try my '76 NWMP 45-75 at deer this year, or maybe take my Henry out again. Or maybe my 1895 in 30-05 that hasn't drawn blood yet...wish my spencer was here already. I'd like to give the 56-50 a go at a whitetail. Good luck next weekend Buckskin
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 21, 2012, 05:18:34 pm
Howdy
Had a Excellent weekend . I hunted Saturday morning out of a stand till mid morning didn't see but 1 at a distance . After lunch went to a ground blind and hunted till about 4 was seeing nothing but squirrels . Then I walked to another  woods as soon as I crossed the dried up creek I got a glimpse of Deer . There was a big oak tree in front of me so I slowly started walking toward the tree as slow and quietly as possible . I was at the oak tree when I noticed a Deer coming straight toward me , I stopped and as the deer was coming straight at me he then walked behind the oak which gave me a chance to raise my rifle as soon as he appeared he saw me standing behind the tree with my rifle at the ready . I decided in about a half of second he's a keeper . I made a good shot he was down and never moved again . I shot him in the neck with my ole Pennsylvania Hunter this made the 20 th deer I have taken with this Round ball Rifle . The buck was a nice 8 point I was by myself when I snapped a couple pictures BUT I do have pictures . Will post in a couple days when a friend comes over and shows me how .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on October 22, 2012, 06:39:30 am
Hey Rowdy,congrats on your deer hunt. Sounds like you had a good time .On the ground with a traditional rifle ,that is truly a vintage hunt . Glad for Ya. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 22, 2012, 09:51:31 pm
congradultions on your buck rowdy. cant wait to see your pictures
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 23, 2012, 11:03:52 am
Congrats!! ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2012, 07:04:34 pm
Howdy!

Here's the pictures (part 1 of 2). Hope they turned out good.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2012, 07:06:09 pm
Here's part 2 of 2 on the pictures.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Trap on October 24, 2012, 08:31:39 pm

  Nice buck Rowdy
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Post by: buckskin billy on October 24, 2012, 08:52:45 pm
thats one to be proud of.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on October 24, 2012, 09:16:28 pm
Nice buck! Way to go Rowdy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on October 24, 2012, 09:20:23 pm
Nice one Rowdy boy. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2012, 10:57:54 pm
Howdy
Thanks everyone for all the kind words . That buck was my 20th deer to be taken with my muzzle loader . So when rifle season starts it will be doe only for me . I want to take a couple does with my 1873 in 44wcf . We have worked up a round that would   mimic  the original Winchester round . I was out today shooting a couple samples , and at 90 yards she was right on .
Good Luck to everyone , and have a safe Hunting Season . Remember we want pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 25, 2012, 07:23:36 am
Rowdy, that's a nice buck! What load did you work up for your 44wcf? My henry is 44/40 and I've been playing around with trying to get the most accurate holy black load with optimum oomph. I've been doing alright with around 37 grains goex 3f and big lube .429's but I think swiss might work better. It's just a 100 yard gun anyway (tops), but I'd like to find a load that shoots tight as possible.   
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on October 25, 2012, 08:18:48 am
Hey Rowdy ,Nice buck ,looks like you made a (Dead Right There Shot) . Good Job .Vintage Hunting at its best !
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: jefff on October 25, 2012, 08:27:04 am
nice deer rowdy,but he looks tired and listless,eyes seem dull ,and think hes bleeding a little.maybe you should get him ckd out these are signs of drug abuse.jefff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 25, 2012, 08:29:57 am
I think he OD'ed on lead... ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 25, 2012, 03:05:42 pm
CCK
A 50 caliber Rifle is tough to beat . Jeremiah Johnson would agree to that .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

BSB
Hope you are feeling better , they say that Jim Beam works ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on October 25, 2012, 08:05:25 pm
Congrats on a nice buck Rowdy. That's the way to do it.

I only got to hunt Saturday morning as I had to get ready for my wife and I to leave for vacation this week. I only saw one at a distance and didn't have a safe shot.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 25, 2012, 10:07:48 pm
Like this one   :P

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nqxIdROsI&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 26, 2012, 06:31:21 pm
CCK
That was an Excellent movie . One of my favorites . Thanks for post that . Well tomorrow is the starting of Fall Turkey season . Hope I can smoke one .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   

I'm getting my gear ready for tomorrows hunt . The weather will be about 30 degree's cooler than yesterday . But at least it will be dry , it has rained all day . Going to use my 1878 from EMF , it has the 26 inch barrels . I have a few of the black powder shotgun shells loaded . Now all I need is the Turkeys .


Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on October 26, 2012, 09:12:02 pm
Good luck to ya Rowdy! I'm taking my 44wcf henry and my 30-06 1895 to get a little target practice before the season starts.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 28, 2012, 09:18:07 pm
well thursday was 85 degrees in north east louisana. a front moved through that night. friday morning it was 59 when i left for work and scattered showers. got to the camp friday night. woke up at the butt crack of dawn saturday morning to a howling north wind and 36 degrees. the wind blew all day saturday, didnt see nothing not even a bird. saturday night me and my hunting pards feasted on grilled deer steaks. a guy that hunts with us killed a nice 8 point and i skint it for the hide. gonna brain tan it. went to bed early. awoke about 11:30 to the wind blowing limbs over the tin roof of our camp and realize i needed to relieve myself. the moon was full and i was casting a shadow while taking care of business. i decieded to sleep in sunday morning, got on my stand at 10:00 that morning. hunted till 2:00 not seeing nothing. went to camp to find my hunting pard had taken a nice doe. cooked some more deer steaks. got back on the stand at 4:00 and hunted till dark. right at dark the wind finally layed. two coons came across my shooting lane. that was all i seen. but the good thing about it was, despite the wind blowing it was a great weekend. got to dress in my buckskins and carry my sharps rifle. maybe better luck next weekend
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on October 29, 2012, 02:44:16 pm
Howdy
Thanks everyone for all the kind words . That buck was my 20th deer to be taken with my muzzle loader . So when rifle season starts it will be doe only for me . I want to take a couple does with my 1873 in 44wcf . We have worked up a round that would   mimic  the original Winchester round . I was out today shooting a couple samples , and at 90 yards she was right on .
Good Luck to everyone , and have a safe Hunting Season . Remember we want pictures .

Nice shootin' Rowdy! I don't get in here very often these days, but I'm always checking ta see if you have hunted sumpthin'  ;D
I haven't been able to shoot rifle yet, but my 76' in 45/75 WILL be out with me at least two days this season. Managed a 8pt with the bow a week or so ago - so there is meat in the freezer.
Once again nice shooting, and good luck on your doe!

(http://home.roadrunner.com/~tlcguns/newpics/2012 Bowhunt Buck/bowbuck04.jpg)

(http://home.roadrunner.com/~tlcguns/newpics/2012 Bowhunt Buck/bowbuck02.jpg)



Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2012, 09:02:06 am
Dirty Brass
Good to hear from you . Good job with the Bow , nice Buck . Looks like you will be making jerky this fall . Actually I prefer to eat it over making it . congratulations on your Deer . And thanks for the pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on October 30, 2012, 05:59:44 pm
I'll probably make some jerky out of one of the doe we hope to get this season. There have been many deer seen all year, so if they just stay put for three more weeks ? Haven't made any jerky in a couple of years, so I'm overdue. I almost had everyone shooting lever guns opening day, but I think they are having second thoughts. They like their scoped super charged rifles too much (chuckle) I have an urger to drop something with the 1886 Winchester 45/70 (Japan model), but my first choice will be the 45/75 again.

Keep working up those 44 WCF loads - I'm paying attention. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2012, 06:45:53 pm
Howdy
Well the first batch of Jerky is done . I have been sampling on it tonight . Hope I have enough to take in my day pack in Rifle season . Will need to top my canteen off , that Jerky sure make's a man thirsty .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: wildman1 on October 31, 2012, 04:38:22 am
Yer makin me hungry Rowdy, I see yer deer and think of a nice juicy piece of backstrap with a couple of eggs fer breakfast.  ;D WM
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Big Goose on October 31, 2012, 09:29:17 pm
Our hunt took place in north central Montana last Thursday , October 25.
 It was a bit on the cold side and windy--- 30 mph +. The buffalo ( a herd of some 450 animals on nearly 50,000 acres) were really skittish.  Once we loacated the herd- which took most of the day- were hunkered down against a big rock on the edge of a coulee where it looked like they were drifting towards. The lead cow, the one that Colton shot with the Spencer, winded us and spooked at a sort of rocking horse gallop. She was about 60 yards in front of us and a bit uphill, and distanced herself some 20 yards in front of the herd and had no calf with her.  I leveled my 1859 Sharps and tucked the blade front sight just ahead of her shoulder andasked Colton if he was ready to take the lead cow. His answer was a sharp boom from the Spencer and her hide pukered for an instant right where iI had been aiming. Her stride increased and at about 110 yards the Spencer spoke again. This time she stumbled and it was obvious the Colton had broken her off side leg just below the shoulder. She slowed and was lost in the sea of buffalo that hurtled past us.
  The buffalo were some 10 or more animals deep and offered no chance for a shot for me... finally just at the tail end of the herd a lone cow came sprinting to catch her companions. Same distance maybe 60 yards and she was moving right along. Again I nestled the front bade into the rear notch and swung across her chest ... when the sights crossed in front of her shoulder I squeezed the trigger. KERBOOM --- the 565 grain slug propelled by 95 grains of very old Curtiss & Harvey 3F blackpowder ignited by an RWS musket cap  slammed into her ribs just behind her shoulder.
   I quickly dropped the lever and stuffed in another paper cartridge and fumbled  another cap on the nipple. Again, she was enveloped in the herd,  then as the herd steadily loped away, the two cows and a young bull and yearling heifer  stood by themselves some 180 yards away. I couldn't tell at that point that one of the cows was the one that I had mortally hit, but Colton's was obvious with a broken shoulder.
 He held high on her hump and touched off annother shot.  We could plainly hear the slap of the 385 grain bullet hit her once again in the chest.... she disappeared over the edge of the coullee and the othe three followed.
  It took us a while to get into position on the edge of the coullee where Colton's cow was down, At that point we could also see that the other cow was the one I had shot, though she spooked not offering a good angle for a shot. Colton's cow struggled to her feet and her put her down for keeps.
  I had to circle around the bend of the coullee to get another shot at my cow where she had bedded down.  She did get up as soon as I poked my head over the edge and I put anouther bullet into her--- quartering away at about 80 yards. She went down  as well.  We smoked a pipe of kinnikinnik with our Assinaboine guide and placed a final offering of prairie grass and sage for our buffaloes.
 The Spencer load was 37 grains of C&H 3f and 385 grain bullet from a mold that I have shortened. Starline brass and Winchester LR primers.This load shoots remarkably well in this AS carbine regularly grouping 3 " or so at 100 yards.  We recovered only 2 of the bullets( one from the spine shot and one from the long shot, both against the hide on the far side) the other two passed through. Colton's first shot was excellent, penetrating both lungs and actually creasing the back side of her heart. Second and third shots were equally as fatal and of course the spine shot anchored her. It says a lot about the effectivness of a heavy bullet at rather modest velocities, as long as your range is reasonable. And did he ever make that Spencer sing.... his first two shots were remarkably fast!!
 The Sharps as I mentioned earlier was loaded with paper cartridges stuffed with 95 grs. C&H 3f and that big .54, 565 grain slug . I did recover the second bullet penetrated over 3 feet of bison hide, bone and muscle and was nearly through the hide on the far side. As with Colton's both shots were fatal therough the lights. It was an awesome hunt and as fine a time a man can have with his son.
 We are blessed.... I just about have all of the meat processed. just a couple hundred pounds of burger left to grind. should be all finished by the time our Minnesota deer season opens on Saturday!
Take care all, and good hunting,
Big Goose
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 31, 2012, 09:53:02 pm
awesome pictures big goose. i hope to take my sharps on a buffalo hunt soon
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 01, 2012, 08:10:44 am
Big Goose and Colton ,
Thanks   for the awesome photo's and story . Hope your Deer season goes as well as your Buffalo hunt went . Goose I know you are as Proud as proud can be , sharing that Hunt with your son . Congratulation and thanks again for sharing this with all of us .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rafe Covington on November 02, 2012, 05:22:45 pm
Congrats Rowdy, very nice deer and great shooting.

Rafe
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 02, 2012, 10:49:56 pm
Howdy
Today we walked around looking for the Turkeys that have disappeared . Apparently they are on the other side of the Creek on a different Farm ? But after all that we were headed out and what did we spot ? Well it was an Excellent very large rack Buck . We sat in the Jeep and watch him with the binos  . We first spotted him at about 200 yards away . We slowly moved down the dirt road till we were about 50 yards from him , he wasn't paying no attention to the Jeep  he had his mind on a doe . He was a beautiful critter .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 04, 2012, 06:34:32 am
Howdy
What is your choice for a Vintage Hunting rifle ? I enjoy a 1873 Winchester ( uberti ) in 44wcf , a 1876 in 45-60 , a Remington RB in 45-70 , a Marlin in 45-70 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 04, 2012, 07:26:31 am
My favorite hunting rifle that fits in the NCOWS time period is model 94 Winchester chambered in 32 W.S.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 04, 2012, 08:57:04 pm
I harvested a tasty spike buck several years ago with my '94 Win 38-55. (About 1907 vintage, octagon barrel, 1/2 magazine) It didn't react any different than one shot in the same place with my usual .308 Win, but with a lot less damaged meat. Unfortunately, can't see the iron sights very well for hunting anymore. If I use the "shooting glasses" I use for CAS, I can see the sights clear, but the deer are a bit blurry, now they added an "antler point restriction" so I have to be able to see him clear enough to count points before I can shoot....Guess it'll be the scoped .308 again this year untill I figure something else out. Maybe a tang sight on one of my lever guns might help.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Carr Creek Kid on November 06, 2012, 10:42:43 am
Henry in 44wcf or NWMP 1876 carbine in 45-75  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 07, 2012, 10:24:49 am
Pony Express
Congratulations on your buck with the 38-55 . Have you ever considered using a Malcolm scope on you rifle ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on November 07, 2012, 12:21:55 pm
congradulations on your deer pony express.
 my guns of choice are a c.sharps bridgesport rifle in the 44 2 1/4sbn(44-77) and a 1860 henry .45 colt. i have taken deer with both these guns. i also use a model '66 in 44special,a '76 in 45-75 and a iab .54caliber paper cutter percussion sharps. i have not taken any deer with these guns yet.

oh yeah how could i forget my old 54 caliber hatfield i got one doe with it
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on November 07, 2012, 07:44:31 pm
The last buffalo I shot was a 1500lb bull taken with my 16 lb Sharps big fifty, black powder from 125 yds. I wore my
period clothes and field dressed it with a ripping and skining knife. Unfortunately the buffalo ranch sold out  and with it my
chance to get reasonably priced buff meat. I was able to harvest 3 buffs, with 3 calibres, 45/70, 45/90, and the 50/90
Sharps rifles.

                                          BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 09, 2012, 08:31:35 am
Howdy
Tomorrow is the opening day for Rifle season . I can't wait to take my 1873 in 44wcf out to the woods . I have my ammo loaded with Swiss powder , really wanting to go the extra mile for the Vintage hunt . The weather is going to be on the warm side but dry opening day . Now to figure out my Hunting attire , boots are easy will use my old Buffalo runners .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2012, 08:00:42 am
Howdy
Opening day of rifle season was WINDY and warm . Didn't see any does , just Bucks . We wasn't able to have our campfire because of the wind . So all Cooking was done in the building with a Coleman stove . We always eat real good while at camp . We ate tenderloin and fried taters the next day we had steak and fried taters . I guess you can tell we aint no vegetarians . Best of luck to all the Hunters out there . Remember The worst day of Hunting is better than the best day of work .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 13, 2012, 08:15:40 am
Rowdy it dont get better than hanging around the old camp ,cooking game and having a sundowner around the campfire .Last wk. we roasted wild pork ribs on the mesquite coals in less than two hrs. after I shot him . Cant wait to get back to the ranch life .Boil your coffee water in the morning ,cook eggs outside on the porch. Thats living. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2012, 09:09:43 am
Dusty
Post a picture of the Buck and wild hog here ,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D That was a fine looking Buck you killed with your 1876 Winchester .
I sure would like a plate of them ribs also . I think you are living the LIFE . Enjoy
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 13, 2012, 09:31:32 am
Rowdy if you can make it down to Texas  with that old 44-40 of yours in the spring ,for Turkey and Hog ,I am sure we will have a plate of them ribs together . Looking forward to it . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 13, 2012, 09:40:09 am
Here is a Wt. buck and Hog I got with my old 76 Winchester 45-75 .I took them both on a hunt in West Tx. last Wk. Was like hunting in the 1800s . This old ranch has ran the same brand since the late 1800s.Old wooden corrals rock house and barns . Like stepping back in time . Kinda makes you not want to go back to town . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 13, 2012, 09:41:09 am
Here is the hog.Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 14, 2012, 08:59:41 am
Dusty
That sounds like a Wonderful place to Hunt . Between the History and the natural beauty , well you just can't get no better than that . Most of my Hunting has been in my home state of Kentucky . So the thought of going to Texas is Exciting . But time will tell .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 14, 2012, 09:13:49 am
Should be getting real cool up in Kentucky Rowdy.It was 28 F at the ranch this morning Good luck on your next hunt. Mule deer season starts here in Tx. the Fri. after Thanksgiving . I am getting ready . Hope you can make it down to Tx. in the spring looking forward to it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 14, 2012, 01:27:36 pm
Dusty
Have you made any Jerky yet . We have almost ate the first batch of Jerky . Hope I have enough to finish Rifle season out . We stocked up our camp food today , will leave out tomorrow . We love cooking over the fire , we also like cooking baked Potato's in the fire . A Hot Sweet Potato with brown sugar and butter , it makes me Hungry just thinking about it . Oh and how can I forget the hickory smoked Steaks  , or Tenderloin .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 14, 2012, 02:07:03 pm
Rowdy I am working on the Jerky now. I cant make it fast enough for my girls. We all like the jerky the best. I grind my own pork&deer sausage also. I think you are right about the camp cooking. My Brother and I love to cook and have a cool one around the campfire . Sounds like you are ready to go. I will spend Thanksgiving with the family and then head out to the ranch for the two wk. Mule Deer season. Was at my cabin last wk. getting it ready for season. Was very nice weather in the canyon country .  The spring on my ranch is flowing good. Deer ,Bear ,Coyote ,Mt. Lion tracks all over .My cabin is about 3.5 mi. north of the Rio Grand and Old Mexico. Big Mule Deer & Javelina down there . Hope I get one with my C. Sharps . Gonna give it a try . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tascosa Joe on November 14, 2012, 02:30:43 pm
Dusty:
Watch your back trail.  3.5 miles north of Mexico is not the safest place in the US these days.  Good Luck on your hunt.
T-Joe
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 14, 2012, 02:45:46 pm
Howdy Tascosa Joe ' Yep I know what you are saying . I keep an eye out all day and sleep with a .45 under my pillow . But thats life on the Border now days . Thanks for the Good Luck Friend .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on November 15, 2012, 11:03:56 am
My muzzle loader deer success  on 11-13-2012. I lack period dress, but enjoy the period rifle and hunt. Black-tail deer taken in the Oregon coast range. Will be making burger, sausage and backstrap steaks out of him.


(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af229/berkster1/IMG_1679.jpg)


(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af229/berkster1/IMG_1683.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 15, 2012, 03:36:00 pm
Howdy Deadeye Dick.Congratulations on a fine Buck.What kinda cannon you shooting there ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on November 16, 2012, 09:37:43 am
Howdy Deadeye Dick.Congratulations on a fine Buck.What kinda cannon you shooting there ?

Dusty Texan,
Thank you,
It's a Lyman Great Plains Rifle. I'm shooting a 50 cal ball ahead of 80 grains of 2F Swiss black powder. The deer was shot at 60 yards.
Deadeye Dick
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 16, 2012, 04:43:55 pm
Way to go Deadeye, congrats on a nice buck with your muzzleloader.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 18, 2012, 03:26:57 pm
Deadeye
Good looking Buck . A 50 caliber is hard to beat . Thanks for Posting the pictures . Why does yawls Deer have black tails , must not wipe good .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on November 18, 2012, 06:20:22 pm
Deadeye
Good looking Buck . A 50 caliber is hard to beat . Thanks for Posting the pictures . Why does yawls Deer have black tails , must not wipe good .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Thanks Rowdy.  :)       And here I thought that odor was the musk glands!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on November 20, 2012, 08:27:49 pm
congradulations on everyones kill. glad to see other people are having good luck. i have been jinks  so far this year, but there still a month and a half left of deer season so i'm sure my luck will change.
 i bought a new camp house this year and this season is the first year to be in it. i have been really enjoying staying in it.  seeing hows its just me now days i'm thinking real hard about just staying there. wouldn't be nothing to think about if i had running water there
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on November 20, 2012, 09:31:05 pm
BB,
How close are  you to a stream? There is always the possibility of a well, if you can get a drill truck in that is. There is always hand digging, but that too much like work.
That ol buck is just waiting out there for you.
Deadeye Dick
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 22, 2012, 09:41:25 pm
Howdy
Rifle season is almost over 3 days left to hunt . Plan on getting back after them tomorrow . I really want to take a Doe with my 73 in 44wcf . Have all my Hunting stuff packed up , will load the Jeep early tomorrow . And the Hunt will be ON .
Buckskin
Hang in there brother that Big Buck will show up . Wishing you the Best of Luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Jack Wagon on November 24, 2012, 06:27:52 pm
This is a vintage picture (probably 1970 or 71') of my first deer with my first rifle. The rifle is a 45-70 Remington Rolling Block I bought off a co-worker for $125. That little forked horn wasn't any monster buck, but it felt like it to me at the time.   JW
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 25, 2012, 12:33:21 am
Thanks for showing us that shot from the past JW. It made me remember my first fork horn.I would drag him until I got tired and stop and stare at him and drag some more .Now my stops on a deer drag are longer the bucks are usually bigger but not as exciting as draging that forky. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 25, 2012, 03:14:04 pm
Nice photo Jack Wagon.

My first buck with a bow was a little fork horn. Back in them days any buck was a prize. Now we let ones that put them to shame walk hoping they get even bigger.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 26, 2012, 02:11:48 pm
Howdy
Didn't kill a Doe with my 73 , maybe next year . Jack Wagon , would you take $125 for that Rolling Block . ;D ;D ;D Thanks for sharing the picture with us . Hope everyone has a Good Hunting season . I can take a Doe with my muzzle loader in Dec. Will give it a try .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 27, 2012, 05:03:25 pm
Hey Rowdy , I'm packed up and heading out to the ranch in the morning,partner got better and we will be at the ranch tomorrow eve. Gonna start hunting Thursday. Got the old Sharps shooting pretty good and feel confident in my rig. If I have some luck I will post when I get back in ten or twelve days . Cant get any recption down on that part of the border . Total wilderness down there. Cant wait. Like stepping back into the old west ,for a while . Talk when I get back. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 28, 2012, 10:12:32 am
Dusty
Good luck on your Hunt . I wish I was with you . Sounds like a wonderful time . Hunting in Texas , with a Sharps rifle it doesn't get any better than that . We need a Video from that part of the World , Pure Vintage Hunting . How are you fixed for a camp Cook ?
Do you have any cabins in good enough shape to stay in . I can sleep on the ground next to the fire .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cash Creek on November 28, 2012, 11:04:23 am
Rowdy, I think he talking about you..  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 28, 2012, 05:39:11 pm
Cash
He gave a pretty good description of me . But when he said I shot at him , well he's alive so it couldn't be me .   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 29, 2012, 10:51:32 am
Cash
He gave a pretty good description of me . But when he said I shot at him , well he's alive so it couldn't be me .   ;D ;D ;D

Hehe - well said Rowdy - I can relate to that sentiment! :)
I had a great season, but unfortunately, I had rotated into modern firearms on the days I saw deer, so my `76 doesn't need cleaning this year. On the last day of the season my sons said "Dad you can hunt today if you want, but you have to leave your rifle in camp and not take it out with you!. Here is/are two of the reasons.....

(http://home.roadrunner.com/~tlcguns/DeerHunt2012/02d.JPG)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 29, 2012, 04:44:16 pm
Dirty Brass
Job well done . Now are  you making jerky this year . Looks like you will have a good supply . Congratulations again .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on November 29, 2012, 05:50:50 pm
I am not Rowdy, but my #2 son is going to make an attempt at it. We set aside 4 front shoulders for hot sticks, and two rump roasts to slice/or grind into fine hamburger and press it into strips - we'll see how that works. I know it's sacrilege (at least in these parts), but I'm going to donate some tenderloin meat too - we have plenty to spare this year. I'm sure it will turn out great.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on November 29, 2012, 06:32:25 pm
great looking deer yall.
 my luck finally changed sunday, i got a 7 point. i had my henry and my winchester model 70 270. the buck came out a little further than i was comfortable at making a shot with the henry.

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1585.jpg)

(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1584.jpg)

we finally had a weekend that got cold and them bucks were on the move that morning
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Raton Rick on November 29, 2012, 09:50:11 pm
Had a great time last month in central Tennessee on a wild boar hunt using my Chiappa copy of a Winchester 1886 in .45-70.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Johnny McCrae on November 30, 2012, 07:56:48 am
Hi Rick,

Welcome to CAS City. You might remember me from the NCOWS Nationals in Evansvile.

That looks like a pretty good sized Boar. Any idea what it weighed?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 30, 2012, 05:31:16 pm
Howdy
Looks like everyone has been busy killing Deer and Hogs . Turkey season opens tomorrow trying to go hunting and do Honey do's for my Mother . Ya just can't say no to mom . Thanks for all the pictures , keep em coming .

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 02, 2012, 04:08:41 pm
Howdy
I smoked me a Turkey today . My 1878 with the 26 inch barrel did an EXCELLENT job . The bird was at almost 40 yards and he fell to the ground like a ton of bricks hit him . These black powder shotgun shells work great . Will post pictures in a few days .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on December 02, 2012, 07:10:03 pm
congradulations on your turkey, cant wait to see pictures
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 03, 2012, 03:20:56 pm
Buckskin
Thanks for the kind words . I hunted this morning with a HOWLING wind , there was nothing moving in the woods . This Saturday muzzle loading season opens for a week . Plan on taking the smoke pole out for a Doe . If it's a Doe and brown it's going DOWN .
 ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 03, 2012, 11:33:15 pm
Here's the picture.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on December 04, 2012, 06:43:43 am
nice bird, cool hat
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 04, 2012, 07:19:15 am
Way to go Rowdy! Does your shotgun have choke tubes or how are the barrels choked?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 04, 2012, 07:36:28 am
Well done on the bird Rowdy! Hope you have similar success during ML Season.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Deadeye Dick on December 04, 2012, 09:59:59 am
Nice bird Rowdy. Cool looking outfit. Way to go!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 04, 2012, 01:22:30 pm
Howdy
Thanks for all the kind words . The 1878 shotgun has tubes , and for turkey hunting I use Turkey tubes . The shirt I was wearing is a brain tanned buckskin I got from Bear Tooth Billy . The hat is a ole beater I bought from Tonto Rim years ago .
Saturday is opening day of Muzzle Loading season , hope I get my ole smoke poles 21 st Deer .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 05, 2012, 09:41:08 pm
Good job Rowdy!! I'm jealous of you guys that can use rifles for deer hunting. Here in Iowa we have to use shotguns with slugs. I did
get a doe last sat., will be making summer sausage tomorrow.

                         BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 07, 2012, 10:46:44 am
Bear Tooth Billy
Good to hear from you . Have you got another shirt for sale ? I love the one I got from you ,wear it when hunting , or shooting . Tomorrow is the opening day of Muzzle Loader season . I have my old smoke pole ready for action . 90 grains of powder . patch and round ball = Deer Jerky ,Tenderloin , Steaks . The weatherman is calling for another day of rain again tomorrow . It is raining today ,so will leave the Turkeys alone today . Muzzle loading in the rain can be very interesting  . Keep your powder and caps DRY or your rifle becomes a CLUB . Good luck to everyone Hunting and always be safe ,and have FUN , life is short .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 09, 2012, 12:24:04 pm
Howdy Rowdy,Looks like you got a good  OleTom while I was gone hunting in West Texas .Congradulations my friend.That is cool doing it the old way Vintage hunting is special. You need to come out to the desert next yr. We have room in the cabin for someone that can cook and likes vintage hunting.I had some luck also'got a Desert Mule deer with my C. Sharps 45-120 cal.Shot him on the last day of my 10 day hunt,saw lots of Mule Deer bucks and Doe. Made a shot on him after a early morning stalk. Was on the bluff over him at about 267 paces down to the desert floor ' made my shot off of my rest sticks I made.Promised a pic. of a deer if I got one ' or me a trying ,so here he is not as big as some I saw but was mature and I did it the old way Sharps and black powder cartridge .We were hunting my place in Brewster Co. Tx. my Brother and I,he got a Mt. Lion on our first day out hunting .I will post a pic. of him to.   Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 09, 2012, 12:33:42 pm
Here is my Brother with his Mt. Lion 'he took on our hunt this past wk. on my Mule Shoe ranch Brewster Co. Tx. Lots a cats down on the border. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 09, 2012, 12:39:47 pm
Thats a lot of bacon Raton Rick.Congratulations .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 09, 2012, 06:22:58 pm
Dusty
Excellent job ,love the rifle with the scope . That is one fine looking set up , and it shoots as good as it looks . Nice Mulie and the Mt. Lion sweet . Have you ever had time to drop the state of Texas a letter about Vintage Hunting ? What I'm proposing for Ky is to let the use of Black Powder Cartridge weapons using black or sub during the Muzzle Loader season . I figure if a Hunter can use a Scoped out Remington 700 Muzzle Loader with sabot ammo why not a 1873 Winchester in 44wcf using Vintage Hunting Ammo .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 10, 2012, 08:36:01 am
Rowdy, I think the argument will be because you can load the magazine in the 73 and shoot all week but you have to take the time to reload that 700 ML which requires a bit of time a quite a bit of movement.

Even though the inline muzzleloaders are very powerful and pretty darn accurate you still have to load them in all the same steps any other percussion capped rifle.

A actually have a scoped 700ML and from experience can say even when shooting with 209 primers there is that ever so slight delay in ignition compared to the instant ignition with black powder cartridges.

I don't know how the ignition speed is on these even newer inlines, honestly it has all gotten out of hand and away from what the muzzleloader season was supposed to be about.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they would make a new season or make at least one of our muzzleloader seasons where you have to use more primitive weapons with no inlines and no scope. Just old fashion cap or flintlock.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on December 10, 2012, 07:45:22 pm


I don't know how the ignition speed is on these even newer inlines, honestly it has all gotten out of hand and away from what the muzzleloader season was supposed to be about.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they would make a new season or make at least one of our muzzleloader seasons where you have to use more primitive weapons with no inlines and no scope. Just old fashion cap or flintlock.


New change for this year in Missouri, they changed Muzzle loader season to "alternative methods", to include modern handguns.So you can use a scoped .500 S&W or .480 Ruger, but a '73 Win with BP is a no-no. ::)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 11, 2012, 06:50:08 am
New change for this year in Missouri, they changed Muzzle loader season to "alternative methods", to include modern handguns.So you can use a scoped .500 S&W or .480 Ruger, but a '73 Win with BP is a no-no. ::)

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard. I use a scoped handgun a lot but thats modern gun season.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 11, 2012, 10:31:05 am
Howdy ,Rowdy , I have sent a letter to TP&W stating that I would like to see Texas have a black powder deer season that would allow the use of black powder cartridge rifles as long as they were designed before 1895 original or reproduction. I am waiting for response .Hope for the best. But will not give up if I get a NO.I through the design deal in there in case I got a responce that you never know what powder is in a cartridge . Thats the pre 1895 reason or (primitive arms ) season route . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 11, 2012, 02:50:40 pm
Howdy
The time is NOW  to start sending letters to the Fish and Wildlife in your state . I think that NCOWS has a chance as a organization to make a difference . We the members can all work together to make this happen , that is the members who want this . We have members in several states . I would like to see the use of Black Powder Cartridge weapons added to what is presently the Muzzle Loading season . Yes if this happens , they will rename it to Black Powder or Vintage Hunting season , the name doesn't matter as long as we can use our Weapon's . What is your opinion ?
 We need people from every state to HELP with this who's in . How many Kentuckian's will help me ??? I need your HELP .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on December 11, 2012, 06:03:59 pm
That's one of the dumbest things I've heard. I use a scoped handgun a lot but thats modern gun season.

I agree, I guess their reasoning must be a need to increase the harvest, deer are really plentiful here, sometimes to the point of being pests. We already have mid Sept-Mid Jan for bow season, plus 10days firearms, 10 more firearms antlerless only, plus the 10 days of "alternative methods" and two weekends of youth firearms. Many towns in my area are starting to have special "in town" bow hunts to try and control them.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 14, 2012, 01:39:13 pm
Howdy Rowdy. Well Texas Parks &Wildelife  sent me my answer back ,The answer was that the use of bp. cartridge guns is allowed (now) in Regular season( I think I knew that since I have been hunting with one for some yrs now).And that Muzzeloader only season is (muzzeloader only) well that makes sense too, but did not answer my question ,(Why cant bp. cartridge guns be used during Muzzeloader season). I am going to keep trying to get the bp. cartridge guns to be legal during Muzzeloader season. Muzzeloader season here in Tx. is held after Regular season.This yr. I think it starts Jan. 7 -20 . Keep in mind here in Tx. we can use muzzeloaders or bp. cartridge guns in regular season .This season usually runs about two months Nov.-Dec.  And that is after our Archery season in Oct. So we can Start with Bows and crossbows for a month,then go to centerfire guns rifle or pistol bp. or modern,then a two wk Muzzeloader season. A heck of a long time ! Not asking for another season just let us use the bp. cartridge guns in Muzzeloader season.  I dont think I or anyone would be taking advantage of the game hunting with bp. cartridge firearms after all other seasons are over  ie. Muzzeloader season.The game by then are usually up to speed that they are being hunted .Will just keep plugging who knows , They might change their rules . Dusty Texian.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 14, 2012, 02:48:53 pm
A cartridge gun is a cartridge gun, a muzzleloader is a muzzleloader. Regardless of what powder is used in each.

Savage makes a muzzleloading rifle that is safe for certain types of smokeless powder. But it is a muzzleloader. You don't have that quick follow up shot for that herd of deer.

You can load cartridges with many types of powder, including black.

What makes a cartridge rifle any more primitive when it comes to hunting by using black powder? You have smoke and that's it. Generally your not taking hunting shots with the speed of cowboy action shooting so how does smokeless powder give you any advantage in something like a 73 Winchester? You are only safely going to push a bullet and so many fps out of a particular rifle and caliber.

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 14, 2012, 03:20:31 pm
What you say is true Cliff.But my cap& ball side hammer full stock  muzzeloader is not the same as the modern  inline mulleloaders that can use bp. or smokless powder they both load from the muzzel yes. But that is all they have in common.I am not saying you guys with those type guns should not hunt with them ,you probably own one dont you. I am saying we that like oldtime bp. cartridge guns should be able to use them in a special season like Muzzeloader season.  My 1876 winchester 45-75 wcf is a cartridge gun repeater for that( quick follow-up shot )you speak of  and so is my Mk.5 Weatherby .300 Wby. NOT MANY FOLLOW-UP SHOTS NEEDED  .but again I dont think they are in the same class. I think I have a greater advantage when using my Weatherby over the old Winchester . If I am understanding you right you think there is no disadvantage when using the oldtime bp. cartridge guns . Well I disagree .If you notice I do not condemn other type of hunters or the type weapon they use ,I think we as hunters( if you are I dont know ) should support each other !To each his own Cliff.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 14, 2012, 07:28:38 pm
Howdy
Everyone has there opinion . All I would like to see is the use of Black Powder Cartridges , added in with Muzzle loader season . As for any thing else keep it the same . For the Hunter who loves his inline let him use it . We don't want to be fighting amongst fellow hunters . Hey it's a Big Woods we can all be happy .
Cliff
If you use a Revolving rifle you can have 6 shots pretty fast . ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on December 14, 2012, 09:34:17 pm
The deer I shot with my model 94 this year wouldn't know the difference if it was loaded with black powder or smokeless. You can load a 32-40 or 32 special either way and the performance difference wont be noticed at 50 yards. At least not with just a couple or three shots and some clean burning black powder.

It will never pass because they cant enforce it. How can someone tell what type of powder is in a cartridge?

Personally I wouldn't complain but can't see it happening. I bet the game wardens wouldn't want to have to deal with trying to enforce it.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Big Goose on December 18, 2012, 05:05:53 pm
Greetings all, and congrats to all as well for  some fine successes in the hunts. I carried my old 86 Win. 40-82 quite a bit, as well as a Ballard # 5 pacific in 44-77 SBN (Freund & Bros. marked). Didn't get the chance for a decent shot during the regular firearms deer season. Was too busy with snow and ice to get out with the muzzleloader....
 As far as "Vintage " seasons go, i see that Mississippi and Louisiana have a "primitive" season that includes single shot cartridge rifles of over 35 caliber as well as muzzleloaders. That would at least give a fellow a chance to get out in the late season with the Sharps, or Roller or Ballard...
 For sure if you don't ask it wont happen.  I have taken a few deer with my flintlock smoothbores as well as flint rifles and caplock muskets, and have carried an inline as well.... but it sure would be nice to get a little more woods time with the Spencer for instance.....
 Have a merry Christmas,
Big Goose
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 27, 2012, 11:00:15 am
Big Goose
Well I plan on asking and asking and with due time we will have a Vintage season . I can't see how this can hurt because it's a win win situation . We aren't asking to take anything away from fellow Hunters we just ask for the BPCR addition with the Black Powder season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 28, 2012, 08:12:24 am
Thats the right attitude Rowdy, You never know until you try. I'm gonna keep trying over here in Tx. May be if they figure out they could charge us with a( Vintage Hunting stamp) ,like the Archery ,and Spring Turkey ,Muzzeloader ,stamps. They may think again. They get more revenue from more hunting,not less hunting. Bringing my Grandchildren hunting on the New yrs. school  break. Get the young involved that is our future . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 28, 2012, 10:10:11 am
Dusty
I think your on to something . With revenue down everywhere they are all looking for ways to increase revenue . I was in hopes that the thought of  additional Hunters in the field would be enough . I was hoping that we could get enough interest across the US so eventually every State  would have a Vintage Hunting season . Maybe what we need is a Vintage Hunting Club ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on December 28, 2012, 04:29:26 pm
A vintage hunting club,that sounds's like it would be a great idea. I think there are a lot of other hunters out there that would be part of a vintage hunting club. Good idea Rowdy. Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2013, 01:49:17 pm
Howdy
I guess the Deer Hunting is over for the year . Hope everyone had a good season . I guess now would be a good time to think about improvements for next year .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 02, 2013, 07:33:03 pm
Yeah it's been over for a few weeks for me. I finally shot my 1858 pistol last night to unload it from late Muzzleloader season. I tagged four this year, about an average for me.

Two with bolt action 7mm, one with my old Model 94 32 special, and one on the last day with a Muzzleloader.

None with a pistol this year, I did have the hammer back on my Super Redhawk on a nice 8 pointer early in the season but decided he needed to walk for another year. Hopefully he made it, he will be nice next year if he did.

I sure didn't see as many nice bucks as I would have liked. Last year a lot of nice ones walked by me so I had high hopes to see some real good ones this year. Only saw one real mature buck and he had two tines broken off. If not for that he would have been a really nice 9 pointer.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2013, 09:48:52 pm
Cliff
Got any pictures ????  ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 03, 2013, 08:38:55 am
Cliff
Got any pictures ????  ;D

No I didn't take any. A friend got some pictures of that same deer with the times broke off with his phone one morning when he hung around under his stand for about an hour. We also have him on trail cam but cant see the rack very well. I don't have the pictures on my computer.

We were hunting a gas line cut and between trail cam and us seeing him he showed up within a 100 yards area from 10 to 11 o'clock in the morning for a period of two weeks. I hope he didn't keep those daytime wondering habits and move to another farm because the knuckleheads across the creek would have shot him. He needed to walk and he'll be a wall hanger next year.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 06, 2013, 04:52:41 pm
Howdy
Got a chance to go Coyote Hunting yesterday . There is a reason for no pictures , no coyotes . There were no coyotes moving ? I called and called . Will try again in a few days .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 06, 2013, 09:43:45 pm
I never have any luck calling Coyotes. Only time I called any in was when we were calling crows and didn't have a rifle. I usually get one every deer season though.

Last time I went out calling Coyotes I had twenty six turkeys come right up to the caller. ??? Every one of them had a beard so as you might figure that is where I was turkey hunting opening morning in April.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 08, 2013, 03:16:12 pm
Cliff
A few years ago we were coyote Hunting down in the bottoms . We watched a pack of them  on a ridge , I broke out the ole dying rabbit call and pulled one from the pack . He ran right straight to the call . I used my ole Pennsylvania Hunter to ring his bell . Shot him at about 40 yards . I guess he was hungry . Wish I had taken a picture of him being a Muzzle Loader kill .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 13, 2013, 03:38:01 pm
Howdy
Went hunting yesterday didn't see any thing except a few squirrels . After carrying my rifle all day I decided when I got home I would fix a sling for Hunting . I used an old leather belt , a top from an ole moccasin , and now I have a sling for hunting . Now if i decide to go to a shoot all I have to do is untie it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 13, 2013, 04:15:22 pm
Rowdy I made one kinda like that for my Sharps. Sure made it better on me lugging that heavy thing around the desert. They aint even a tree to lean your rifle against out there. Learned that I can set my shooting sticks at an angle and that sling strap butts up again it ,for hands free glassing. Good part is this kinda sling can be taken off in a flash . Now I need make one for my 76 .....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2013, 04:33:57 pm
Dusty
I carry my Rifle across my back to free up my hands . Sure makes it easier to get a dip of copenhagen or use my coyote calls . But don't put a dip in and grab your call . How long is the Mt. Lion season in ? Would you use a 44wcf or a 45-60 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 15, 2013, 04:44:20 pm
Can hunt Mt. Lion all yr. here in Tx. they are not protected ,got to many. You can take as many as you please ,by any way you choose ,day or night. Rowdy I think you would be armed aplenty with your 44-40 or your 45-60 . .....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2013, 04:49:15 pm
Dusty
That is great news . I would LOVE to have a Mt Lion , that is right up there with a Bear . Now if I can just win the lottery .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2013, 07:00:46 pm
Dusty
We could have a fine time Hunting . Hunt all day sit around the fire at night . Probably have a nip or two . Life is short , better enjoy every minute .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 15, 2013, 10:26:09 pm
Amen Rowdy! I only wish I had taken the time to realize that sooner.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 16, 2013, 03:19:07 pm
I agree on all parts ,Fine time ,Setting around the fire ,A nip or three , And enjoy life, it is short.......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 18, 2013, 08:49:38 am
Howdy
What's your favorite hunting knife ? Everyone enjoys a good knife . some like Damascus some don't . Some like stag grips while others prefer wooden grips .

Over shoes , when did they become available ? When the weather gets wet and cold my ole Buffalo Runner boots will make your feet miserable at best . I have coated them with all the water proof boot dressing but they still leak after a while .

If anyone has any secrets that they would like to share on clothing tips for staying warm or dry . There's lots of tips we have used over the years going to cowboy shoots in the Winter on staying warm . Most know that wool clothing is a great start .

Look forward to hearing from YOU .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 19, 2013, 12:25:08 pm
Wool is the only way to go, it doesn't loose its insulation value when it gets wet.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on January 19, 2013, 04:47:59 pm
When I was still bear hunting with dogs, all the TN boys would use bear fat. While satting around the fire and after a kill, they would heat a big piece of bear fat and rub it on their boots. It did work very well. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on January 19, 2013, 07:07:22 pm
There has been some discussion either in NCOWS or The Historical Society about when rubber boots or overshoes came about.

As for favorite knives, I guess I'm just not a knife guy, almost every deer I've ever field dressed and skinned has been done with my 3 blade Buck pocketknife that has been riding around in my pocket for 30+ years.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 05:57:21 am
Howdy ,Hunting in West Tx. can be Hot or Cold! I have seen 50 deg. swing in just hrs. As far as my leather boots I use hightops for the cactus more than the snakes ,even though they, call em snake boots. I coat them with snowseal two times a yr. Keeps em waterproff and they dont crack in the hot&dry. And it can get dry in the desert Amigo.I think Cliff hit the nail on the head with the Wool. I use Wool shirts.With a Buckskin coat over the wool shirt a felt hat and some Mohair socks made here in the Hill Country region I am ready for some pretty cold weather.I'm kinda like Pony Express about the knife ,mine is a Old Timer Trapper my Dad gave me 30 somthing yr. ago. Cant tell you how many animals it has skinned, or meat it has made. Guess in the hundredes. If that knife is not in my pocket I walk funny .Good Hunting, here is a pic. of yours truly in front of the 5C Hedquarters a couple wk. ago..........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 08:59:22 am
Hey Rowdy ,this old bear got real close to my game camera,about 30 min. after I set it out. Guess he wondered what it was. The black bear are protected here ,cant shoot them anymore. They are making a big comeback. I called the black bear varmints, a TP&W biologist said they aint . But he aint the one fixing the water trough's , They tare -up everything they touch,like a 250 lb. coon. I am.Guess it's how you look at it ........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 09:02:41 am
A bad day for the coyote's .Male and a female came in that morning......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 09:08:29 am
I'll try this one again (lion after training is over) . Hit the wrong button last time sorry about that .......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on January 20, 2013, 09:14:44 am
Here in Kentucky I'll can get my coldest with the temps in the upper thirty's or low forty's. Generally the air is damp and high humidity especially in the Ohio valley.

When I was a kid I froze because my folks dressed us in cotton and bow hunted a lot because I hated sitting still in the cold during late November deer season. Once I discovered wool I started hunting again in the colder weather and actually like winter now.

I dress in several layers and I try not to wear anything with cotton whatsoever. I pretty much dress the same for 45 degrees or 5 degrees. Once it starts getting down below freezing the air feels drier.

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 09:43:18 am
You bet that damp air hurts ,Cold and dry aint that bad if the wind is not howling.That buckskin helps in the wind. Here is a Lion taken on the Muleshoe ranch this winter. Need to get back out there and do some more . Thats one thing the biologist and I agree on ,Varmint control is one of the best things you can do for your deer herd. Actually we agree on more than one thing......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 20, 2013, 09:54:12 am
My Brother, hauling a lion out of some rough country on the Muleshoe ranch,he killed it in the hills in the background,he is strong as an OX. Thats Old Mexico on the horizon . 3.5 mi. from the Muleshoe South fenceline. Border Country still wild as ever you gotta love it .......Dusty .(gotta give this a break this speed typing is killing me).......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 20, 2013, 11:34:42 am
Dusty
Thanks for posting the pictures . I've got to get down there and get me a mt. lion . I found out along time ago that wool is the way to go . I like the military wool socks to wear ,uncle sam got me hooked on them . I wear a lot of wool because it works . Now my boots are old Buffalo Runners . I have used snowseal to try to water proof them . But I have been spoiled using Gortex hunting boots . As far as knives go I prefer a fixed bladed knife , but have used the pocket knife to do the job at hand . Now I have a couple Damascus Bowie that I occasionally carry . Also can you carry a handgun in the field while Hunting ? I like to carry my SAA in 44wcf when I'm using my 73 .   
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on January 23, 2013, 04:28:17 pm
Howdy Pard's ,Is anyone doing any Winter Varmint hunting, hog hunting, or any kinda hunting if so tell us about it ,show us some pictures .Some of us are stuck inside these cold winter days and enjoy reading and seeing your hunting success,and even hearing about the not successful hunts. So let's hear about it Pard's .........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 27, 2013, 04:38:14 pm
Dusty
Have been working on my boots . Have applied a heavy coat of mink oil . I heated it to a liquid and applied with a rag , tried to rub it in . I plan on letting them sit for a few days and then applying another coat . I  have a drovers coat in my  Jeep in case the weather is rainy .Today is a rainy day and our forecast is rain this week . I need to load a few 45-60 rounds this week . With it being a rainy week I will clean a few rifles .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on January 28, 2013, 06:18:04 am
Dusty
Have been working on my boots . Have applied a heavy coat of mink oil . I heated it to a liquid and applied with a rag , tried to rub it in . I plan on letting them sit for a few days and then applying another coat . I  have a drovers coat in my  Jeep in case the weather is rainy .Today is a rainy day and our forecast is rain this week . I need to load a few 45-60 rounds this week . With it being a rainy week I will clean a few rifles .

Hi

If you really want the oil to soak in, put it on in August and leave the boots in the trunk of the car for the afternoon.  That's how I do my WW2 rough out boots and my brogans.

Later
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 01, 2013, 04:23:05 pm
Howdy
The weather is COLD out there today . Not going Hunting today . Plan on getting out early tomorrow . Hope to get a little snow tonight . Maybe I can get lucky and get a shot at a Coyote .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 01, 2013, 05:04:37 pm
Howdy there Rowdy, Hope you get a couple of them Coyote in the morning.Remember once you shoot one start calling as soon after as you can ,it has worked plenty for me ,nothing beats a double. Best thing you can do for the herd .Good luck and (give em a barrel ) for ole.........Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 03, 2013, 09:00:09 pm
Dusty
Today we awoke to about 4 inches of Snow , weather idiot called for flurries . I made my rounds and never seen  anything except a squirrel . It was a windy day but I didn't see nothing moving , may try again tomorrow .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 05, 2013, 03:03:54 pm
Hey Rowdy ,any luck with the coyote huntin. How about that snow did it melt off yet. Try swapin call's a bit. This time of yr. I like bird in destress call's . Along with the rabbit in destress , in a couple a month I will pull out the pup in destress.That bring's um right up to my barrel. Dont take them long to wise up, faster than most. My old Daddy used to tell me way back yonder. Every time you hunt them song dog's you teach them another lesson. And he was spot on.  ....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 08, 2013, 03:22:52 pm
Hey Rowdy you still kiking ?. Or did you start the long hunt early? .....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 09, 2013, 03:27:27 pm
Dusty
Been hunting a job , not as fun as Deer Hunting . Wish I could win the lotto tonight , then I could be Full time Hunter .  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 09, 2013, 03:36:48 pm
Good Luck Rowdy ,Wish you the best......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 12, 2013, 10:30:55 am
Dusty
The only hunting I've been doing is for a job . In my free time I have put a set of one piece grips on my usfa pistol . They look great and feel even better . The grips I fitted was won at the Convention . They were donated by Grip Maker , thanks grip maker .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 12, 2013, 12:38:32 pm
Hey Rowdy ,wish you luck with the job huntin. I'll bet them one piece grip's look good. I have one piece on my cap-n-ball revolver's ,but my Colt's .45 has the hard rubber grip's . Think a one piece Mesquite burl would look good . May start wittling. That's what I need another project. .......Good Luck.........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 14, 2013, 11:20:16 pm
Dusty
If your bored and want to whittle out a set of grips ,why not it's winter They will be just fine . I have been trying to figure out what caliber of pistol I want to pack Hunting . I have been a 45 colt fan for years . I also enjoy the 44wcf , now common sense would dictate that what ever the rifle caliber was then that would be the pistol caliber . But I love my 44wcf in my 73 rifle , but the 45 colt is my favorite  pistol . That is the caliber of my NCOWS pistol that USFA built . I hope to start in Texas and hunt to Montana some day . Now if we can only get someone to finance this adventure ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 20, 2013, 10:30:04 pm
Dusty
Today I  fixed a large batch of jerky . The dehydrator came with 4 racks and I purchased 2 more . So today was the largest batch I have fixed . It turned out OK but it still lacks something ? I have one recipe that calls for some brown sugar . When you google jerky it comes up with lots of recipes . Now to tweak them to my liking . I thought a touch of brown sugar and red pepper might be a interesting taste ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Blair on February 21, 2013, 01:50:40 pm
Rowdy,

Try dissolving some brown sugar and chill powder, salt and black pepper (to taste) in some Jack Daniel's "Black Jack". Glaze the jerked meat with this several time before fully jerked/dried. Workes well in grilling and bbq. Save the left over Glaze. It wont spoil.
Just a thought?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 22, 2013, 03:26:09 pm
Blair
Thanks , the next time I fix Jerky I will work with that recipe . I enjoy a couple slices of jerky for a snack . I purchased a jerky cannon a couple years ago . It works like a caulking gun , real simple to use . Makes nice strips of jerky for the Dehydrator . I thaw the meat out add my mix of ingredients let set up for a day then dehydrate .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 26, 2013, 05:52:31 am
Howdy
Yesterday I came upon a large flock of Turkeys . That got me to thinking about Turkey season . That's about 6 weeks out . This winter is slipping right on by . I was hoping to have a 1887 repeating shotgun for this Turkey season but that ain't going to happen .I will be using my ole 1878 with the 26 inch barrels . I have killed Turkey with it in the past and it has always done a Excellent job.But that has a lot to do with my black powder ammo . The ammo is from Powder Inc. and is a Heavy load that we have developed for Turkey Hunting . The paper hulls work real good with the black powder load .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 26, 2013, 07:15:31 am
Howdy there Rowdy ,I am lookin forward to turkey season here in Tx. You are allowed four Rio Grand Turkey per license yr.I still have three tag's for this spring, took one in the fall. Gonna use my .45 cal. caplock front stuffer and round ball.Been wantin to use a old double 12 ga. hammer gun I have think it is around 1880 's model. Bore's look great and it locks up tight. Even has some case color showing on the lock's. Point me in the right direction for gettin some Black Powder load's for it . Think it deserves a trip out huntin again ,dont you ?One more thing NOTICE I SAID RIO GRAND TURKEY ---------NOT EASTERN TURKEY . I think you can only take 1 of them  per license  yr. I dont ever hunt in east Tx. not up on that huntin there . ........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 27, 2013, 03:07:09 pm
Howdy
Turkey season is almost here . Thought we might try to have a turkey hunting contest . Have everyone post a picture of there Turkey . Hope we have several members  give this a try . The Hunting is lots of fun and the wild turkey is Excellent eating .


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Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 27, 2013, 03:55:38 pm
I like that Idea Rowdy ,I'm All In .....Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 27, 2013, 07:00:02 pm
Dusty
On the contest , I have a few connections for prizes . To be eligible just post a picture of your Turkey . Have your best Vintage Hunting attire on . We should be able to have lots of fun with this . So tell all your Turkey Hunting buddies .


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Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 10:14:07 am
Rowdy here is the start of my vintage turkey huntin outfit 12 ga. shotgun and old cedar box call from my late Father who taught me to hunt .The little turkey feather  and the box call are for luck. ....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 28, 2013, 03:19:55 pm
Dusty
I use a box call and have had good luck using it . Have you ever used a wing bone call . I have only read about these , I guess they were the diaphragm call  of old times . I enjoy being in the woods in the early morning , as everything is waking for the day . The sounds sights and smells of the early morning are always worth the effort . To sit up for a Turkey , call him in range to take with a old double barrel shotgun using black powder . That is the ultimate fun and Excellent eating afterwards .

  Vintage Turkey Hunters Wanted
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 03:29:19 pm
Rowdy I have watched my old Daddy use a wingbone call way back yonder.He would make em .We used the old cedar box call for yrs. Then somtime in the 70's we started on the mouth diaphram call's . Bought the kit's and made em ourselves ,that's when we were Hi Tec.. I have to say the mouth diaphram is to me ,easier to use ,and hand's free. I'm using the old cedar box , just to have part, of my old Huntin Pard along again ......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 03:42:38 pm
And Rowdy your rite about the early mornin sounds and smell's . Aint nothin like hearin all them Turkey's cackel then flap down off the roost and start the ear shatterin Gobble . My little Daughter when she hunted with me ,would listen to them gettin ready to come of the roost and sing to me ,Aint Commin Down Till The Sun Comes Up . Huntin with your Kids and Grandchildren is Top's ......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 28, 2013, 03:55:58 pm
Dusty
I know what you mean about the diaphram calls . Makes for less movement . When you get that ole Gobbler all fired up and he comes running in , if that doesn't excite you nothing will . And I will have my favorite diaphram call in my pocket just in case .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 03:59:14 pm
Just dont tell me you used it LOL . ....jUST PULLIN YOUR CHAIN ......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 28, 2013, 04:06:16 pm
Dusty
Have you tried not using a call but just your mouth , I am working on it BUT have a long way to go .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 04:18:13 pm
Do it all the time . My little Brother can talk to em like nobody's business . He wont use a call, just his mouth . Have to admit where we hunt they have a bunch of Turkey , but they aint dumb . I have friends in other States tell me it,s so easy cause we have a bunch of em . In a way they are rite . But you ever try to fool about 20 turkey's eyes that's 40 eye's Pard it Aint easy . .....Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2013, 04:22:27 pm
Another thing Rowdy Aint gonna use any CaMO I HATE THAT STUFF .It just aint for me . It aint hard to get em close in West Tx. it's movin once they are in range ...Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 28, 2013, 05:59:14 pm
Dusty
I have lots of Vintage Hunting clothes from 20 years of Cowboy shooting . I have a brain tanned buckskin shirt that I love to wear . That is my favorite hunting shirt . I have a set of elk skin pants that I wear some . The foot gear is boots ( buffalo runners ) and a pair of moccasins from Arrow . Now if I hunt in Texas may leave the moccasins at home ? But they sure are comfortable and you sure are quiet wearing them through the woods .  
 

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Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 06, 2013, 03:46:03 pm
Howdy
The new powder from Goex is about to arrive , I can't wait to see how the Olde Ensyford works .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on March 08, 2013, 02:33:46 pm
Ready to go and try out them Black Dawg shot gun shell's my Pard Rowdy sent me. Hope they pattern good in the old double barrel.Turkey season is around the corner . Gettin Ready ....Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 09, 2013, 12:00:32 am
Dusty
Hope the ammo works out for you . I have killed turkeys with that load ,worked for me . I heard a rumor that you was so close to the boarder that those turkey speak Spanish . If he ever gobbles he's mine .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 18, 2013, 05:49:37 pm
Howdy
I finally snagged up a 1887 shotgun , but a 20 inch barrel ? Hope to have a 30 inch barrel installed for Turkey hunting . Any suggestions ?   Does anyone know of someone that had this done . She is a norinco , wish she was a winnie .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on March 22, 2013, 11:37:49 am
Howdy there Rowdy ,have you had a chance to pattern that 87 yet? That twenty " may do perty good. Finally gettin to head out west soon,so I'll be gettin to try out that BP. shotgun load you sent me. And my .44 colt OT. If I can, gonna try the .44 colt OT on a wild hog. Gettin on to spring down here ,the Gobbler's are worked up , been gobblin for a couple wk. now . Think they open the spring season a little late. But not complanein ,it run's six wks. from March 30th into May 12th. Still putin my Vintage Huntin Kit together . Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 22, 2013, 04:35:14 pm
Dusty
The plan for tomorrow is go SHOOTING . I plan on shooting my 44wcf loads from Powder Inc. and my 12 gauge BP also . I will try the 1887 but not expecting much . With a 20 inch barrel and no full choke , no way it can perform at any distance .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on March 22, 2013, 07:00:46 pm
What would be better (or cheaper) a new full choke barrel or choke tubes? Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 23, 2013, 03:13:10 pm
Howdy
I shot my 87 today and had the smoke rolling . but the short barrel won't reach out there and kill Turkeys . But if I could get a set of choke tubes for it that would help .

Also tried the new powder from Goex Olde Eynsford , the first test wasn't to impressive at all .  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Blair on March 23, 2013, 04:36:31 pm
Rowdy,

I watched a video about hunting turkey with a air/pellet rifle.
While this kind of a challenge appeals to may sportsmanship, when I squeeze the trigger, I really prefer bring home the meat.
Choke inserts maybe the least expensive "reach out there" and ge them method for your '87.
It is not quite the same as a long barreled variation, is it?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on March 23, 2013, 06:49:36 pm
Rowdy, was that new powder the 44wcf loads. What did it do or not do?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 23, 2013, 07:49:34 pm
Cliff
The Olde Eynsford is lighter can only get like 32 grains in a case where the Swiss got 35 grains . The velocities were slower also , the 2f was about 1150 ish and the 3f was at about 1250 . Now the fouling was bad after 20 rounds , now keep in mind this is with the Powder Inc. bullets which hold a small amount of lube . Now this was my first testing of this powder . Will talk to Jerry after work Monday to try and figure out the next step . If you was using a bullet that held more lube there would be less fouling . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 30, 2013, 02:34:47 pm
Howdy
Was wanting a hunting cap of the era . I was looking at old photographs and found a style that would be great for cold weather hunting . It looks like the Elmer Fudd hunting cap that had the tied up ear flaps . I have looked on line and can't find what I want . When you look up EF hunting cap ,they pop up as a leather cap with ear muffs . The old pictures I have seen look to be like a carhart material . Who makes caps ???
Wish I had purchased a hat from the vendor at the Convention . I liked the bobcat hat and the beaver was nice also .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on March 30, 2013, 04:37:54 pm
Rowdy, How about seeing if Jerry would donate a couple pounds of that new powder for the National. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on March 30, 2013, 05:49:18 pm
Rowdy,

The Elmer Fudd's characters cap was supposed to be the famous Filson hunting cap. Filson has been known since the late 1800's for their quality work and hunting clothes. That hat is called a Mackinaw wool hunting cap.

My good friend was a Filson dealer until recent years after they started having some of their products made in China.

I don't know if they still offer it in the red and black plaid but just Google "Filson Mackinaw wool cap", you'll probably find it.

I can say from first hand experience they are very warm.

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 31, 2013, 11:20:14 am
Cliff
I found it , But they are similar to a cap from the 1800's . Still not exactly what I want . Shotgun Steve posted some Hunting pictures and I noticed a few hunters wearing caps with furry looking ear muffs .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: John Smith on March 31, 2013, 11:21:37 am
Here are some vintage looking hunting caps.  http://www.stormykromer.com/mens/caps?p=1
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on March 31, 2013, 12:35:13 pm
Cliff
I found it , But they are similar to a cap from the 1800's . Still not exactly what I want . Shotgun Steve posted some Hunting pictures and I noticed a few hunters wearing caps with furry looking ear muffs .

Rowdy,

Here is the Double Mackinaw hat with the furry flaps. http://www.filson.com/products/double-mackinaw-cap.60041.html?fromCat=true&fvalsProduct=mens/hats-and-caps&fmetaProduct=1011

I wear the Filson Wilfowl cap when hunting. The Tin Cloth repels water and it has the Mackinaw wool lining for warmth. The buckled part will slide down over your ears on the sides and back or you can bring it all the way down with the buckle at your chin. Just depends on the temperature.http://www.filson.com/products/tin-cloth-wildfowl-hat.60063.html?fromCat=true&fvalsProduct=mens/hats-and-caps&fmetaProduct=1011

Go to Filsons website, most of their stuff is still here in the good ole USA, it is pricy but I can vouch it is high quality. I have a bunch of Filson gear thanks to one of my best friends being a dealer for many years so I could get it at dealer cost.

We both sport our Filson gear mostly when we are waterfowl hunting, he has one of the "Fudd" hats as we call it but it has to be down right cold for our area before he brings it out. When it gets down around single digits he will show up and say "had to break out the ole Fudd hat today" ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 31, 2013, 05:45:27 pm
Cliff
Thanks for the info I really appreciate it . Turkey season is almost here . I have a stormy Kromper in grey wool nice cap and it works pretty good . may have to use it if the weather is cold and crappy in early Turkey season . I have my old TTN 1878 shotgun ready to hunt Turkey . I have a great black powder 12 gauge load ready to SMOKE some Turkeys .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on March 31, 2013, 08:10:15 pm
Sounds great Rowdy, go get em.

I'm not going to be able to Turkey hunt this spring because of my neck. The Doc hasn't given me the go ahead to do much lifting or shooting any guns at all much less something with recoil.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 01, 2013, 05:10:05 pm
Cliff
Sorry to hear that you will be sitting Turkey season out . I am planning on hunting opening day , have the ole double barrel ready to go .   wish I could get a long barrel for that Norinco 1887 . Oh well maybe I can have it for the fall season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 05, 2013, 06:04:31 pm
Howdy
Today I watched a pair of Tom's . They had the Hens in sight and were putting on a real show strutting around and gobbling . Next Saturday is opening day of Turkey hunting . I will have my old Doubled barrel ready , plan on smoking the woods up . Wild Turkey is Excellent eating .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 07, 2013, 05:18:27 pm
Howdy
Today was an Excellent day . Had a chance to pattern my shotgun ( 1878 ) At 40 yards . Pattern was good so I am ready to hunt down a couple Turkeys . If I get a nice Tom on opening day I might try to take  the second bird with the short barreled 1887 ,   he will have to be close . Good Luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 14, 2013, 10:43:19 am
Howdy
Well Turkey season is in full swing . I killed a nice Tom today . The TTN 1878 reached out to 52 steps to lay him down . Not to bad for a Black Powder load . Will post  picture later . Nice big bird weighed about 25 lbs ,had a 9 1/2 inch beard and 1 1/4 spurs .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on April 14, 2013, 11:23:00 am
Howdy
Well Turkey season is in full swing . I killed a nice Tom today . The TTN 1878 reached out to 52 steps to lay him down . Not to bad for a Black Powder load . Will post  picture later . Nice big bird weighed about 25 lbs ,had a 9 1/2 inch beard and 1 1/4 spurs .


That's great Rowdy! I'm chomping at the bit because I'm still recovering from neck surgery and not allowed to shoot anything with recoil. I'll be missing out on spring turkey this year.

Looking forward to the pics.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 14, 2013, 11:32:57 am
Good on Ya Rowdy. Glad you smoked you a Tom. ......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 16, 2013, 07:28:01 am
Dusty
The Black Powder shotgun shells were the key to my success . They have to keep a excellent pattern at a long distance . For turkey hunting i load #6 and I have a few shells loaded with # 5's . I use Federal paper hulls which crimp great . As for powder I use Goex have been experimenting between 2f and 3f . The bird I killed over the weekend was with 3f .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 16, 2013, 08:04:42 am
I patterened my old double 12 hammer gun with the Goex loaded paper shell's you sent me. Was really impressed with the result's at 50 paces. Had good pattern's in the tight barrel and the improved one. Managed to get three big Rio ,Tom's for the hunter's and they missed a couple chances at wild hog. Hunted for me one morning and had two Jake's come in ,passed on them in wait for an old Tom. Again congratulation's on your success Rowdy. I better get back out there and beat the brush......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 19, 2013, 04:57:58 pm
Dusty
Well the weather has cooled down , will try for another bird this weekend . Hope the next bird doesn't roll in the creek . The last Bird I shot managed to flop off the bank and into the creek , I guess the Black Powder smoke was to much for him . I slid down the Creek bank and picked him up and the nerves kicked in to flopping and he almost drown me . Well I will be out there trying for another Tom early tomorrow morning .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 19, 2013, 05:51:09 pm
Good Luck on Ya Rowdy .Should be a little cool tomorrow . Hope you have a good hunt. Let us know how it goes. I'll be headin out next wed. for another go at the Rio Grande's and wild hog. This time just me and the bird's. Caint wait. I'll say a little good luck prayer ,fer Ya in the Mornin.......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on April 19, 2013, 06:07:37 pm
Good luck Rowdy.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 20, 2013, 05:41:43 pm
How'd Ya do Rowdy ? .............Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 20, 2013, 06:43:58 pm
Howdy
The flood water had me up a creek . I aint swimin to the other side . I seen a strange sight , a hawk after a Turkey ,they were making all kind of noise . I was a hoping the hawk could drop the Tom on my side of the Creek and in shotgun range , but that didn't happen .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 20, 2013, 07:07:02 pm
Any day out there spent vintage huntin is a goodun .......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 20, 2013, 07:09:07 pm
Never thought my Pard up in Kintuck would need a Life Jacket Turkey huntin. .......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 21, 2013, 07:30:17 pm
Dusty
I decided to stay dry and sleep in . Maybe I will get a chance to hunt after work tomorrow ? What about you , any luck yet .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 22, 2013, 04:22:01 pm
Rowdy aint nothin wrong with a little R&R . Naw hadn't any luck yet.Been doin town duties but headin out to the Ranch later this wk. plannin on doin a little huntin ,around the two gates need replacin and gettin some cattle moved around. Dont know about up yonder but down here the rattler's are on the move. Need to cary my 45 Colt's this time cause have some shot load's for the 45. Spring is the worst time fer snakes . I kill more in spring than any other time. I better get on an old Tom soon round here most hen's are already settin a nest.Them hog's dont ever give it a break so they may get a little attention this time .......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 23, 2013, 04:12:45 am
Aint nothin like the Roar of a 45/120/ 550 Sharp's .The old 1874 C. Sharp's can get the job done ,on both end's . ...Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 24, 2013, 07:10:51 pm
Dusty
That's a fine looking Deer and rifle . Hope you can get you a big fat turkey . Good Luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 26, 2013, 03:57:41 pm
Headin out for another hunt next wk. Turkey season end's on May the 12th. Got the old double barrel patterned and some bp. shell's loaded up . Workin on a slug load brass and bp.in case I run into a hog while chaseing Turkey. Will try the slug's out when I get too the ranch...........Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 28, 2013, 03:09:08 pm
Dusty
I wasn't able to Hunt this weekend . I went to a Wedding out of town . Had a niece get married , so we did the family thing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 04, 2013, 11:02:19 am
Dusty
  Turkey season goes out May the 5th , and I am on call this weekend . So my spring hunt is over . I was able to take at least one Tom this Spring so can't complain . We have time to test our loads now for the up coming seasons in the Fall . I have a excellent load worked up for my 44wcf using Swiss BP . I enjoy hunting with the 44wcf , it seems that   everyone wants a 300 magnum to kill a whitetail deer at 50 yards . I enjoy woods hunting and most of my shots are fairly close , 80 yards or less . Now with a 44wcf cranked up to 1300 fps it works great . I started using Vintage Hunting Guns because I was really into Cowboy shooting . Used to shoot every Saturday somewhere . So was always shooting these weapons so decided to start Hunting with them .Now before you say hunting and Cowboy loads they are 2 different animals your right .I used a   hotter load to hunt with . That way I don't destroy the targets at a match . Hope everyone had a safe and successful Turkey season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 04, 2013, 11:25:51 am
Rowdy I have got a last chance hunt commin up this week.The spring turkey season for Rio Grande's end's on the 12th of May. Have been under the weather this past week and couldnt go. Goin to give it a try on tue. or so. You are right there is a big difference in a bp. huntin load and a cowboy load or plinkin load. I have seen people step back after standin next to my 45-75 bp. or my 45-120 sharps when it goes of ,it's funny to see the starteled face when they hear the roar from a gun they thought was just goint to go pop.Hopin to get a Turkey and wild hog . Glad that you got a Tom Turkey up yonder in Kintuck.I know wood's huntin is some kinda difficult. My hat is off ta ya Rowdy. Look forward to doin some load development ,durin the off season , for my 45-75 my Sharps 45-120 ,and my bp hammer double . If I have some luck I'll post a pic. when I get back. When I'm out younder I am outa touch with the modern world. Thinkin that's what I like about it the most.Go draw water fer your coffee,listen to the coyote gather call while ya wait on the pot ta drip in the mornin, and a coal oil lamp at night on the porch listnen to the coyote sang goodnight, while somthin is cookin on the mesquite fire.Life is good...........Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 04, 2013, 12:43:57 pm
Dusty
My favorite thing is sitting around the campfire at night listening to all the critters . The sound of bull frogs croaking during the night or a pack of coyotes .  and the sounds from the campfire , these are the simple things in life that make it all worth living . We enjoy being out in the wild , have you ever sat on a rock and wondered who sat there a 150 years ago ? Life is Short enjoy every second .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 05, 2013, 11:27:44 am
Howdy
The Black Powder 12 gauge shotgun shells have a 1 3/8 ounce of #5 shot powered by 100 grains of Goex 3f . They aint no wimpy loads . Works real good on Turkeys .To make this work I also use a shot cup which performs GREAT . What are you using in your shotgun loads ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 06, 2013, 03:16:46 pm
Rowdy I still have enough of the bp.shell's you sent me ,they are plenty powerful,and pattern good in my hammer double outa 45 paces or more.Gonna do more testin with my brass shell loadin before I use them on game. Ifn the load's I'm shootin are loaded like you say ,I say I should be able to up my load's a bit. Cause I'm not pushin but 60grn. 3fff Goex under 1-1/8 ox.# 4 .My old gun locks-up tight ,but feel I need to work up a bit at a time. Headin out in a day ot two for my hunt,if the creek dont rise.......Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 08, 2013, 07:28:18 pm
Dusty
I sure do like the #5 shot . They have worked real good out of my Double barrel . I hope I hit the Lotto tonight . Will become a full time hunter tomorrow IF I WIN . I guess that is the real red neck 401 K plan .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 14, 2013, 08:49:33 pm
Dusty
You ever ate a frog ??? Frog season will be here in a few weeks . Frog legs are better than Chicken .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: MJN77 on May 15, 2013, 02:15:50 pm
Hows this? Not exactly hunting. More like checking on the cows and happen to see. She didn't last long against a 45-70.
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Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 15, 2013, 04:59:41 pm
Look's like Ya made a good coyote outa that un. Good job ,bet that 45- 70 put the hurtin on it. That's huntin the hunter.....Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on May 15, 2013, 05:09:35 pm
Dusty
You ever ate a frog ??? Frog season will be here in a few weeks . Frog legs are better than Chicken .

So, do I use the .44 or the .45 on frogs???

Bob
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 15, 2013, 06:07:12 pm
Rowdy I have et frog ,and have to say they are Dang Good. Didnt know Ya have a season on em. Must be some bigun's up yonder ,if Mean Bob wants ta use the hardware on em. I think he's jest bein Mean.LOL.......Dusty.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on May 15, 2013, 06:17:57 pm
I think he's jest bein Mean.LOL.......Dusty.

Right, like everyone here doesn't spend every waking hour trying to find an excuse to use their firearms.

"I can open that coffee can honey!"
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: MJN77 on May 15, 2013, 06:22:24 pm
My cousin used a .22 rifle on frogs.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on May 15, 2013, 06:23:10 pm
My cousin used a .22 rifle on frogs.

What if one had charged?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: MJN77 on May 15, 2013, 06:41:25 pm
Then my cousin might have croaked.....................(groan). ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Pancho Peacemaker on May 15, 2013, 08:30:03 pm
Hows this? Not exactly hunting. More like checking on the cows and happen to see. She didn't last long against a 45-70.
(http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss359/mjn77/SN853572_zps03665f10.jpg) (http://s591.photobucket.com/user/mjn77/media/SN853572_zps03665f10.jpg.html)

Nice looking '86. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: MJN77 on May 16, 2013, 06:07:57 am
Thank you. I've only had it about a month.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 16, 2013, 07:07:05 am
Howdy
We usually gig frogs , but if we shoot them we use a 22 . BUT when you shoot them sometimes they will get away . Plus you don't have to feel around under water trying to feel the sunken frog .
MJN77
Nice coyote and love your 86 , thanks for posting the picture .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 20, 2013, 08:02:09 pm
Howdy
Frog season is in and hoped to hit a few ponds this weekend . Will break out the old frog gig and a light .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on May 21, 2013, 03:49:01 pm
Howdy
Frog season is in and hoped to hit a few ponds this weekend . Will break out the old frog gig and a light .

That would be a neat thing to take a troop of Boy Scouts out on.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 29, 2013, 06:49:03 pm
Howdy
How many Vintage Hunters are coming to the National Shoot . Hope to see you there .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Yuma Kid on May 30, 2013, 12:32:31 pm
Rowdy,
Why don't you write me an article on vintage hunting?  I'm sure a lot of the member's would love such an article.  For that matter any of the rest of you who have posted on this subject feel free to send me something.  Sent to editor@ncows.org , its best if you send the text in any of the major word processing softwares and then send the pictures as attachments or in a separate file.
Thanks,
Yuma
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Blair on May 30, 2013, 01:04:21 pm
Great Idea!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 30, 2013, 05:13:23 pm
John
I think Vintage Hunting would be something our members would enjoy . Will start working on it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 30, 2013, 11:57:08 am
Howdy
Hunting season is just around the corner . I had a chance to shoot my short rifle 1873 in 44wcf yesterday . It shot great , the 44wcf is a great round . In a time when every hunting magazine tries to sell all the new calibers . We know that the old trusted calibers still work . It doesn't matter if your using your grand fathers 30wcf ( 30-30 ) or your cowboy shooting 44wcf . They still work in the Hunting situation of today . Now with that said I have lots of friends who use modern style weapons and that's fine they use what they want and I use what I like . Were all one big happy family and the woods are big enough to accommodate everyone .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on July 01, 2013, 08:47:04 pm
I like to take the old 32 Special out for at least one deer a year. ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 03, 2013, 05:55:50 pm
Cliff
What about your 73 in 44wcf . If I win the lottery this weekend we will have a BIG Vintage Hunt . We will have to travel to Texas and visit Dusty . Would LOVE to hunt on the Mule Shoe Ranch . I would love to Deer hunt in almost every State that has a Deer season using my 73's in 44wcf . Remember boys life is SHORT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on July 03, 2013, 09:47:53 pm
Rowdy, I've never taken a deer with the 44WCF but I really need to add that to my bucket list. 44WCF using black powder of course.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on July 03, 2013, 11:26:54 pm
I intend to hunt pigs with my 1873 in .45 Colt this winter. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 04, 2013, 11:27:33 am
Cliff
My wish for this Deer season is to use only my 1873 and take 4 legal Deer . Now that means that I will have to sit early Muzzle Loading season out . But if I strike out with my 73in rifle season I will break the ole smoke pole out . I shot my 73 today with ammo loaded with T7 ,they came in at 1300 fps over the chronie .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on July 04, 2013, 04:13:10 pm
Cliff
My wish for this Deer season is to use only my 1873 and take 4 legal Deer . Now that means that I will have to sit early Muzzle Loading season out . But if I strike out with my 73in rifle season I will break the ole smoke pole out . I shot my 73 today with ammo loaded with T7 ,they came in at 1300 fps over the chronie .

No limit on antlerless deer where I live  ;D I usually get anywhere from three to seven, depending on the freezer and what I see.

Is there a particular hunting bullet you like for the 44wcf?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 04, 2013, 06:49:04 pm
Cliff
I just use the 200 grain round nose flat point ( lead ) .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on July 04, 2013, 10:09:27 pm
I've been shooting the Mav 44 Big Lube for CAS. I suppose it would serve well on a deer at fairly close range.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 05, 2013, 08:53:26 pm
Cliff
It worked real good about 120 years ago . But now lead is a bad thing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 13, 2013, 10:24:37 pm
Howdy
The weather this summer is GREAT . I went to our hunting cabin this afternoon and the temp was about 78 degrees . Did a little shooting . We stopped shooting to watch the deer in the soy beans . Now why don't those critters watch you like that in hunting season ? We were moving and making noise , doing everything you can't do in Hunting season . They just watched us and kept eating .  We had one old Doe that was about 75 yards away , I guess she was hungry not scared . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 03, 2013, 11:39:30 am
Howdy
As a NCOWS member we are lovers of History and Authenticity . Now put that together with Hunting and you have your Vintage Hunter . The Hunter who would rather grab his 1873 Winchester with a round that was loaded as the original  44wcf were loaded . While some hunters enjoy having a camp to hunt and enjoy the whole outdoor experience for weeks at a time , some hunters can only hunt for the day so what ever category you fall in get out there and hunt and have fun this is your chance to relive the past . 
Remember this is your adventure enjoy every minute to the last second . Life is short .
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on August 03, 2013, 10:16:19 pm
... We stopped shooting to watch the deer in the soy beans . Now why don't those critters watch you like that in hunting season ? We were moving and making noise , doing everything you can't do in Hunting season . They just watched us and kept eating .  We had one old Doe that was about 75 yards away , I guess she was hungry not scared . 

Hi Rowdy

Them darn Deer can read Wildlife Department Calendars nowadays.  I noticed that in Illinois when I'd drive down the road the Pheasants would be popping their heads up in the fields until November...

Later
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 05, 2013, 04:30:55 pm
Howdy
I played around with Triple 7 and the velocities were in the 1300 + fps . So if a hunter can't find black powder the triple 7 is another option . It was to hot for Cowboy shooting some cowboys said , but it's just right for Vintage Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 10, 2013, 12:55:45 pm
Howdy
Well it's that time of year when we start thinking about upcoming hunting season . Squirrel season opens in a few days . They work great in a Pot pie or fried up like chicken . The Deer forecast looks Great , I seen a real nice buck a few weeks ago . I have a pack of Deer steaks laid out to grill for tomorrows lunch . I plan on fixing a batch of venison jerky in the upcoming weeks to have ready for Deer season . Start planning NOW season will be here before you know it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on August 10, 2013, 02:04:21 pm
Rowdy, I normally shoot 2F in my 44wcf. Thinking of loading up some 44wcf with 3f swiss and run them across the crony and see how they group.

You reckon I'd get a little extra umph with the 3f? Not that it really needs it at close range.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 12, 2013, 08:39:35 pm
Cliff
I had some loaded with 3f 35 grains , they were smoking HOT . If I was  loading the 3f I would stick to about 33 1/2 grains . I THINK that will put you at around 1300 fps .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 21, 2013, 07:19:51 pm
Howdy
There's  long barreled 87 shotguns in Canada . And I think the price was under $500 . They are pw87 which is a Chinese gun . Fall Turkey season is just around the corner . I need a long barreled 87 for a Turkey Hunting Video .
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on September 04, 2013, 04:19:13 pm
A littile back-yard hunting at the farm...Poor fella peeked over the top slat of what used to be a feed bunk inside the barn.
His first/last mistake of the day. The pictured 44 WCF Carbine is 100% effective on small critters, so far.
32 grains of FF Kik + 44 "MAV" big-lube bullet.
I've not Chrony'd the load in this gun, but anticipate it would be at/below 1000 fps.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/9675869096_eef628171d_z.jpg)

Good news ....he can't warn his friends that I'll be back... soon  ;D

Slim
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on September 04, 2013, 06:54:03 pm
Good thing you didn't need a follow up shot on him, shooting BP inside the barn smoke probably took a while to clear.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on September 04, 2013, 08:28:55 pm
Slim, is it true that if you cook em right they taste just like chicken?  They must be thick this year, at the neighbors barn I shot
one and trapped two in the last week

                       BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on September 04, 2013, 10:59:09 pm
Slim, is it true that if you cook em right they taste just like chicken?  They must be thick this year, at the neighbors barn I shot
one and trapped two in the last week
                       BTB

I should ask a neighbor at the farm, bet he's tried it.....BTW, maybe they make good chili?  ;) :o

Agree, must be good season for them to breed. I only saw two last weekend..but based on the dirt mounds, holes, etc I'd guess 8-10 are in the herd. On the bright side, I'm keeping them from invading the house & I have a steady population to "manage". Makes a good hobby for me now that the meth-manufacturing neighbor is gone (deceased) & the family farm / livestock aren't overrun with his crossbred attack dogs (avg wt - 130 lbs). After his demise, the police investigated his barn & they found over 50 of these dogs in crates/cages.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Books OToole on September 05, 2013, 09:26:06 am
Slim, is it true that if you cook em right they taste just like chicken?  They must be thick this year, at the neighbors barn I shot
one and trapped two in the last week

                       BTB

No; Beef.
(They are grazers.)

Books
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on September 05, 2013, 07:51:56 pm
I've tried them. Do not care for it. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on September 05, 2013, 08:30:24 pm
Maw Maw used to parboil them and fix em when I was a kid.

I can come up with better things to eat nowdays. Lot more deer in these parts than there used to be ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 21, 2013, 10:37:50 am
Howdy
Got a chance to squirrel hunt the other day . I killed 4  so later that week we had squirrel pot pie . Today I am making Deer Jerky this is the last of the Deer meat from last season . The plan is to have used all of the meat from last year , so on opening day of Deer season I have a EMPTY freezer . Hope everyone is gearing up for Deer season and everyone has a safe and successful hunting season , good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: River City John on September 21, 2013, 10:58:03 am


. . . they found over 50 of these dogs in crates/cages.

"Dog makes good eatin'"

RCJ
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on September 21, 2013, 08:35:02 pm
I don't like for the freezer to run completely out. Always try and get enough to last till next deer season.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 22, 2013, 10:06:45 am
Howdy
The Deer jerky I fixed yesterday will come in handy . I enjoy chewing on jerky while waiting on that ole Big Buck to show his head . I plan on harvesting a couple young does for eating , then trying to wait for the Swamp Monster to appear . I have been working with my 73 in 44wcf as my weapon of choice this year . But my 76 in 45-60 is always at the ready  .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 19, 2013, 11:25:54 pm
primitive season opened today in n.e. Louisiana. took hoss my trusty c sharps 44 -2 1/4 out this after noon and made meat. dropped him where he stood.

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Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on October 20, 2013, 06:12:09 am
Mighty Fine job Pard. They dont call em old reliable fer nuthin,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 20, 2013, 04:49:30 pm
Buckskin Billy
Great job . This weekend was rainy Saturday and WINDY Sunday . We ate GOOD and had a Great time . JD killed a nice Doe and I smoked a Coyote . I sat a blind by a downed cotton wood tree that crossed the creek . I look up and here comes 2 coyotes they are on the other side of the creek and the lead coyote gets to the downed tree and jumps on the tree with intentions of crossing to my side Wrong answer . That 50 caliber dropped him dead .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on October 20, 2013, 08:05:24 pm
good kill rowdy. you cant kill enough coyotes. my hunt had the makings of going wrong in a hurry, when I got to my blind my chair that I have sat on for 20 years was gone. it was a old boat seat on a bucket and worked good, it allowed me to swivel all the way around to make a shot. I built that blind for the chair. I had a lawn chair in my truck and grabbed it but it aint for shooting out of. and it sat me too low in may stand, I couldn't even see out the window. so I figured what the heck the weathers nice and its a good day to be in the woods. when he walked out and the smoked cleared from that ole sharps that day got better
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 02, 2013, 09:51:46 am
Howdy
Well next Saturday is opening day for Deer Season ( Rifle )  Hope everyone has a SAFE and Successful Deer Season . I have my 73 ready for action .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2013, 11:18:51 am
Howdy
We need Articles for the Shootist on Vintage Hunting . I am in the process of writing one that I promised the editor at the National Shoot . So take lots of pictures . Maybe we can have a page devoted to the pictures of our Vintage Hunters and there Trophies they Harvested with Vintage weapons .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 06, 2013, 04:46:18 pm
Howdy Boys
Well Deer season is just days away . Good Luck and be safe .

Oklahoma Tom
The Cimmarron 1881 shotgun with the 30 inch barrels , are there lots of these on hand ? They would make a excellent Vintage Hunting Shotgun .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: OklaTom on November 06, 2013, 06:20:12 pm
Howdy Boys
Well Deer season is just days away . Good Luck and be safe .

Oklahoma Tom
The Cimmarron 1881 shotgun with the 30 inch barrels , are there lots of these on hand ? They would make a excellent Vintage Hunting Shotgun .

Yes, there are plenty of the 1881 with 30" barrels.  20+ of the Standard, 20+ of the Deluxe.  I have a deal with Cimarron right now where I can sell the deluxe and standard for the same price.  So it boils down to how fancy do you want wood.  Standard is laser checkered stock and fore arm.  Deluxe is laser checkered with scroll carving around it.  I have a 30" Deluxe in my shotgun cabinet.  email the store at ThreeB.Shooting@att.net if you are interested in pricing.
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 06, 2013, 08:07:55 pm
Oklahoma Tom
Could you post a few pictures of the 30 gun . The 30 inch barrels are the Vintage Gun . This would be the ticket for Turkey hunting and we have fall season in December . Would that gun have a xtra full with it ?

I sent you a pm
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Post by: OklaTom on November 07, 2013, 08:23:26 am
Here is my Cimarron 1881 Deluxe with 30 inch barrels.  I included a close-up of the fancy laser checkering/carving on the pistol grip.  It has the same style on the fore arm.

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Post by: Mean Bob Mean on November 07, 2013, 11:06:41 pm
Here is my Cimarron 1881 Deluxe with 30 inch barrels.  I included a close-up of the fancy laser checkering/carving on the pistol grip.  It has the same style on the fore arm.

Looks nice!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 15, 2013, 06:59:15 pm
Howdy
The Hunting was good . I killed a 8 point Buck , nice animal will post pictures after season . I used my 73 with BP ammo ( Swiss ) the 44wcf did the job . I plan on spending my Saturday doe hunting , also would love to take a doe with my 73 .   who knows what tomorrow will bring . Maybe a doe , or a coyote ??? Hope everyone has a Great hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 15, 2013, 07:34:11 pm
I've put a couple in the freezer for meat but haven't gotten a Buck that meets the criteria to show. I've seen a couple nice 8 pointers that deserved a hard look but they just need another year to grow.
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 18, 2013, 10:38:53 pm
Cliff
Sounds like your 44wcf did a great job . I broke out my buckskins for Hunting ,I decided to look the part of a Vintage Hunter Except for I wore my blaze orange . But not for the pictures . Hope everyone is having a good time Hunting .
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 23, 2013, 09:33:55 pm
Howdy
I got a Doe today . So Rifle season is over for me . I can buy a doe tag and use it for Muzzle Loader season . But I have Killed a nice Buck which I will be posting pictures of . The Doe was a small one about 60 lbs . We cooked the tenderloin tonight , it was excellent . We had a excellent day . We Hunted ,Harvested and feed on fresh meat . Life is Good .
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2013, 04:37:11 pm
Howdy
Here is a picture of the Buck I killed .
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 01, 2013, 05:18:51 pm
Howdy
Here is Doe pic.
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 03, 2013, 05:35:14 pm
Howdy
Here is another picture .
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Post by: bear tooth billy on December 04, 2013, 05:17:12 pm
Congrats Rowdy!!! You know there's 4 more deer hides in that shirt you're wearing. I sure wish I could use a 44/40, but here in
Iowa we can't use centerfire rifles. I'll be out this Sat. for 1st season shotgun, supposed to be cold!! start out single digits
with highs in the teens,     

                                           BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: buckskin billy on December 05, 2013, 11:20:07 am
congradulation rowdy on both your kills
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 07, 2013, 10:04:20 am
Howdy
No Turkey hunting today . The weather outside is pretty rough . The temp is 12 degree's and wind chill is 2 degree's and the roads are real bad . I guess I could make a batch of Jerky in preparation of Muzzle Loading season .

BTB Did you like my shirt . I sure wish I had another one . ;D

BSB Hows the Hunting going  . Having any luck .

Attention All Kentucky Hunters . It's time to start a Campaign to  add  Black Powder Cartridge guns to our Muzzle Loading season . That way we could use either weapon . Muzzle Loading OR Black Powder Cartridge Fire Arms Season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Dirty Brass on December 09, 2013, 02:56:12 pm
Congratulations Rowdy! Nice buck, and a doe to boot. Should keep the freezer working for awhile.
I had to do a double take on the doe pic - picture looks remarkably similar to a little buck I got in 2011. I guess we both take similar camera shots!

(http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/brassmagnet/1876%20etc/spikebuck45_75_zps9ecb1cb0.jpg) (http://s274.photobucket.com/user/brassmagnet/media/1876%20etc/spikebuck45_75_zps9ecb1cb0.jpg.html)
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Post by: dusty texian on December 09, 2013, 03:39:15 pm
Congratulations Rowdy,on a couple of nice deer, and great photo's . And by the way ,that is a perty rifle there Pard,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 09, 2013, 05:10:11 pm
Dusty & Dirty Brass
Thanks fellows .Nice rifle dirty brass , what's the length of the barrel ? Your is a 45-75 isn't it ? Nice Buck have you eat any of you back straps yet . The wife fried up some back straps last night from the Doe and they were DELICIOUS .
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Post by: Dirty Brass on December 09, 2013, 05:37:40 pm
The entire deer was devoured some time ago (chuckle) that was from 2011 season. Your pic of the doe just clicked in my head of a similar picture I had from a previous season Rowdy. IIRC that barrel was capped at 23.5" before rounding the front half and redoing it to SG butt style, and yes, 45/75. Did not get to use it this year - heck I only saw 3 deer all season, and only one shoot-able one (which I did get)  :) You had a much better season my friend - well done!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 14, 2013, 01:40:16 pm
Howdy
This picture will go with our weather .
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 15, 2013, 10:37:16 am
Howdy
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2013, 08:38:07 pm
Howdy
Here is a picture from Deer Camp .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 21, 2013, 09:57:36 am
Howdy
This weekend is the last for Muzzle Loading . The weatherman said lots of RAIN for this weekend, and he got that right .So I stayed home and slept in . I have had a good hunting season this year . I plan on doing a little predator hunting this winter . Heck before you turn around it will be Spring Turkey season . MERRY CHRISTMAS 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 29, 2013, 09:43:09 pm
Howdy
A few of my favorite tools for Vintage Hunting .
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 03, 2014, 11:14:49 pm
Howdy
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Post by: Dirty Brass on January 04, 2014, 10:01:48 am
Great picture!
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 05, 2014, 11:26:20 am
Howdy
Here are a few of my favorite things .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on January 09, 2014, 02:14:38 pm
Hi Rowdy

I don't deer hunt, but I need to build a couple of knives for two Eagle Scouts next year.  What size / length blades are those?  A link to something you would use for skinning etc on Track of the Wolf or Crazy Crow would be helpful.

I have a couple of decent deer horns to use as the handle.  I'm GUESSING that I don't want a huge guard, but I don't KNOW what length and curve blade I should get.

I've only built one tang bladed knife, but I did learn a few things from that experiment.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 10, 2014, 06:58:12 pm
1961mjs
The two large hunting knives have a 7 1/2 inch blade . They are what I like but you might want a smaller blade a 41/2 to 5 inch blade work great . I like a guard on my knives , but that needs to go with the blade . Smokey Mountain knife Works has lots of knives to look at  . Good Luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on January 10, 2014, 07:22:20 pm
1961mjs
The two large hunting knives have a 7 1/2 inch blade . They are what I like but you might want a smaller blade a 41/2 to 5 inch blade work great . I like a guard on my knives , but that needs to go with the blade . Smokey Mountain knife Works has lots of knives to look at  . Good Luck .


Thanks

I'll post a picture of the ones I think are candidates.  My plan is to use 5-6 inch blades, with a small guard.  I may use a one sided guard.  I have a couple of antlers to use as handles. 

Thanks again
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 13, 2014, 05:04:13 pm
1961mjs
The 5 inch blade is a nice size blade . It will handle skinning jobs with no problem . What type of metal are you planning on using carbon steel , stainless , or Damascus .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on January 13, 2014, 07:17:32 pm
1961mjs
The 5 inch blade is a nice size blade . It will handle skinning jobs with no problem . What type of metal are you planning on using carbon steel , stainless , or Damascus .


I'm open on metal type.  It's a gift to a friend's kids for Eagle scout.  I have to make two SIMILAR knives.  I have antler and that's it.  Which do you suggest and why??

Thanks
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Post by: Montana Slim on January 18, 2014, 08:31:55 am
I'll offer my opinion...I like carbon steel blades in my knife projects. My knives are geared to be 19th century American west. Therfore, point (1) Authentic material - becasue that was the most common material (didn't have stainless, and damascus blades were not common) (2) I can age a finished carbon blade after polishing by coating with ketchup or other mild food acidic (authenic look). (3) A carbon blade is flexible - therefore you see it tending to flex/bend before it breaks (durable material), (4) Sharpens easily and holds an edge as well, or better than the others. (5) Low cost - best bang for your buck.

You'll find a vast array of ready-made blades available online, and custom shops that will cut blanks to your specifications.

My personal favorite knives are the general utility or "camp" blade. I use mine for deer hunting/skinning and around the campfire/kitchen as well (after washing).

Slim
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 19, 2014, 10:27:53 am
Montana Slim
Thanks for your input on the knives . How was your Hunting season , are you a coyote hunter ? They can be a real challenge to hunt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Montana Slim on January 22, 2014, 04:07:57 pm
I only try to hunt coyotes  :-[
Skunked out calling them earlier in the season. Weather hasn't cooperating lately.

Only one I saw this season was on my last deer drive. He walked out in front of me at 50 yds or so, stopped and looked over his shoulder. I was concerned at first that it could be a neighbor's dog....for about 3-4 seconds...then I dropped a buckshot round in my shotgun while he lit out. His hide would be mine if I had my yellowboy carbine and my standard CAS load.

The local guys referred to them lately as "wolves" cause they must be cross-bred with something big & black...maybe a cow. Just a few years ago the ones I used to see were a light orange & white. Anyway, I hesitated and didn't get him....maybe next time.

Anything your way?..if not I'll run them over to ya Rowdy..

Slim
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 26, 2014, 05:20:36 pm
Montana Slim
Hope the weather will cooperate next weekend . Would love to do a little Coyote Hunting . I think the wind has blown 40 mph for the last month . I did take my pistol out today  , fired a few rounds . I think I'm getting cabin fever .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on January 26, 2014, 06:19:56 pm
Saw two big gobblers today out at Dad's. 
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 28, 2014, 06:57:51 pm
MBM
Today we had a HEAT wave the temp got to 19 . I seen 3 Tom's out feeding in a corn field . Then after lunch we watched 2 coyotes out looking for dinner . To bad I was working , should of been coyote hunting . Hope to try it Saturday .
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Post by: Mean Bob Mean on January 28, 2014, 08:06:32 pm
Best of luck Rowdy!
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 10, 2014, 06:17:44 pm
Howdy
Got a chance to go Coyote Hunting over the weekend . I seen 3 coyotes at about 400 yards .  So I never pulled the trigger on my 73 . The weather was cold and snow . The snow was falling on Sunday afternoon , looked like a scene from the White Buffalo .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 17, 2014, 07:47:49 pm
Howdy
The Turkeys are out feeding in the snowy fields . You can see them about a mile away . Last week there was a group of birds in a corn field seemed to be about 50 of them . Hope the Spring season is good .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 23, 2014, 04:35:12 pm
Howdy
Got a chance to burn a little powder yesterday . I sat several targets up yesterday , then shoot them down as fast as possible . My favorite target is a 4 inch piece of 2x4 . I like using small targets and mixed distances . Hope everyone has had a chance to shoot a few rounds lately .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 02, 2014, 10:00:08 am
Howdy
Well the 2013 hunting season is over , hope everyone had a successful season . Hope your plans are gearing up for 2014 season . Today we are having another ice storm ,when will this winter end . 
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Post by: rdstrain49 on March 02, 2014, 11:34:30 am
Not anytime soon.
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Post by: 1961MJS on March 25, 2014, 10:59:36 am
Howdy Rowdy

I just got my 1881 back from Cimarron Arms.  I need to write a nice blurb on their customer service. 

My question here concerns turkey hunting and turkey choke  tubes.  I have a Cimarron Arms 1881  12 gauge side by side with 26 inch barrels.  There are more than several turkey chokes, and I don't really want to buy them all.  What ammunition should I be using, and what choke tubes would go with that?  I live in Norman Oklahoma, and will probably be hunting South of here, so possibly longer shots will be necessary.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 27, 2014, 05:25:14 pm
1961mjs
The Turkey tubes I am using came from Colonial Arms in Alabama . First will you be shooting smokeless or black powder . They both work Great . But you will need to pattern your gun at different yardages . That way you will know how far you can kill your Turkey .
The tighter the choke the farther you can successfully take a Turkey . Wish you the best , and take lots of pictures . Have you posted any pictures of your 1881 yet . We would love to see a picture of HER .
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Post by: 1961MJS on March 27, 2014, 11:15:56 pm
Hi Rowdy

Definitely smokeless. I don't have the equipment to reload black powder OR shot shells now.  I'll have to buy what I shoot. 

 I've only hunted quail and pheasant so I need to  get some help on what loads to buy for turkey.  Like I mentioned above, they're probably going to be 20-40 yards.  I won't be shooting further away than that this year.  From looking at Midway's website for a while, I'll probably buy some #5's or #6's in a 3 inch shell.  Since I haven't shot the 1881 that much yet, I THINK I'll get a couple of extra full chokes possibly in different diameters and see which seems best. 

I plan on getting both a Skeet and either Skeet 2 or Improved Cylinder with the knurled top for shooting skeet.  I'll probably use the hidden chokes that came with the 1881 for Trap, Quail, and Waterfowl.

Later
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 28, 2014, 09:43:54 pm
Mike
The 3 inch smokeless load work good . I am a fan of the #6 , but if I thought I might shoot  farther I load a #5 in the right barrel that way if he is over 40 yards I prefer the 5's . The main thing you will want to do is pattern your shotgun . I hope this will help you , and wish you the best of luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: 1961MJS on March 29, 2014, 06:52:19 am
Mike
The 3 inch smokeless load work good . I am a fan of the #6 , but if I thought I might shoot  farther I load a #5 in the right barrel that way if he is over 40 yards I prefer the 5's . The main thing you will want to do is pattern your shotgun . I hope this will help you , and wish you the best of luck .
Great idea, I'll get a couple of boxes of each.

Thanks
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 18, 2014, 01:39:02 pm
Howdy
Calling all Turkey Hunters . Where are your pictures  . ? I bet ole Dusty has smoked one .
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Post by: dusty texian on April 21, 2014, 12:35:54 pm
Well Rowdy ,so far look's like the Turkey's will live to gobble another day. The hunters have taken some nice Tom's with beard's over 9-1/2" being average . Have not taken the time to stop and call one for me. ,,,,,,Dusty
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Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 25, 2014, 10:36:02 pm
Dusty
Back at it tomorrow and Sunday .Hope the hens are starting to nest now . If ole Tom has a bunch of hens around him , he won't usually leave them to come to your call  . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on April 27, 2014, 07:55:21 am
Hey Rowdy ,I'll bet your in the wood's ,chasing old Tom! Hope Ya the best of Luck Amigo!  The hen's have been on the nest down here for a while.But the Tom's are still ready,they about have thier wing tip's worn down square now from struttin.Have seen a good number of mature Tom's this Spring. And a good number of Jakes. The Rio Grande turkey seem to do better in dry yr's. And we sure have had plenty of dry here in Tx. as of late. Kill us a Biggun Amigo,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 29, 2014, 04:38:53 pm
Dusty
This year my Turkey hunting spot has turned into a SWAMP . I had ole Tom gobbling his head off , but I couldn't get him in range to shoot . I worked with him for over an hour ,he would Gobble and I would use my sack of tricks . I tried everything but he just didn't come . This coming weekend is the last days to hunt . I am hoping the hens will be on the nest so ole Tom will come to my call ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Gabriel Law on May 22, 2014, 11:53:55 pm
I know this ain't a turkey, and I see folks are posting pictures of practically any kind of hunting arm...so here's a young bull I shot last fall with my self-made Hawken rifle.  The charge was 127 grains 2Fg GOEX, a mink oil lubed/tightly patched .62 cal ball (.613"), and the range was 80 yards.  The ball passed through and through.  Great eating all winter for my whole family.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/DTaylorSapergia/DSC_0353_zps75dfbdda.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/DTaylorSapergia/media/DSC_0353_zps75dfbdda.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 23, 2014, 04:40:25 am
Howdy Gabriel,That is a mighty fine job on the rifle and the use of it. Having never been around Moose . I would like to know about how much meat can you get from one like that.That looks like a big critter to me. About like a good size horse.I have heard Moose is some fine eating.,,,,,,Dusty
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Post by: Gabriel Law on May 23, 2014, 01:45:50 pm
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/DTaylorSapergia/DSC_0912.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/DTaylorSapergia/media/DSC_0912.jpg.html)

Thanks for the kind words on the rifle and the trophy.  This is a little guy...a two year old, and I got about 500 pounds of cut and wrapped from him.  Wonderful tender and mild flavoured venison!

The one in the image at the top of this post is the bull I shot, with the same rifle, in 2012.  He was about five yards further away, but the rifle didn't care.  This one yielded half again that much meat, and again, was not strong flavoured, but tender and delicious.  I have the priviledge of hunting in some of the most productive moose country in British Columbia, and only a half day's drive from my home.  I had this bull mounted and it adorns a wall in my living room.  I'm not a trophy hunter, and will take the first legal bull I see, but in this case, this fellow was it.

This fall, I want to hunt with my new Winchester '76.  If I'm as lucky, I'll post pictures of the harvest in due course.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 23, 2014, 03:29:11 pm
That is a beautiful moose ! And a better look at that Hawken,I like it. Have you ever recovered a .62 rb. from a moose kill? I wish you luck on your up-comming hunt.The 45-75Winchester should do a fine job. ,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Gabriel Law on May 23, 2014, 05:58:27 pm
Dusty, I've never recovered a .62 cal ball, but on my first moose, back in the last century, I used a .75 cal ball in a Brown Bess musket.  I recovered that ball under the hide on the off-side shoulder after it passed through the foreleg bone, a rib, the lungs, a scapula, and another rib.  The ball went from .75 cal to about the size of an old .50 cent piece (remember them!), and only about 1/4" thick.
I've a confession to make...I've been building muzzle loaders for over 40 years. Hawken rifles are one of my favourites.  They were, in their time, perhaps the epitome of a superlative American hunting rifle.  And they shine now too.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 24, 2014, 12:32:04 pm
Gabriel
Thanks for posting pictures . That's a fine looking rifle and a nice trophy . Hope you the best of luck with the 76 . Can't wait to see your pictures .
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Post by: dusty texian on June 03, 2014, 10:25:55 am
June ,May be the time for a little Javelina hunting.,,,,,,Dusty Texian
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Post by: pony express on June 03, 2014, 07:43:20 pm
Looks like you have a few there, how do they taste?
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Post by: dusty texian on June 04, 2014, 09:34:11 am
Howdy pony express,I like to eat the Javelina. Most I have seen taste it like it. Some would not try it. I learned to cook it Barbacoa style. (Slow roasted) . ,,,,,,Dusty
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on June 04, 2014, 04:59:56 pm
Sounds tasty... never tried a "Spanish style" roasted pork, but it probably isn't a lot different than Phillipine version, "lechon baboy" slow cooked over coals on a spit. (Wife is Filipino) That's the usual special occasion menu there. Preferred size of the pig is about like a Javelina, they don't use big 250lb+ hogs for that.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 13, 2014, 12:33:31 pm
Dusty
How do you fix your Deer meat . My wife likes to fry with onions . Cooked over a wood campfire is a great way also . We also love to barbecue it , served with baked beans and tator salad and a slice of pecan pie . How do you like to prepare your Deer meat ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on July 13, 2014, 01:22:57 pm
99% of ours gets sliced into steaks and fried, tenderloins just get sliced and fried in a little oil, where some of the tougher cuts might be marinated and fried, or maybe tenderize it with a meat hammer and breaded. Sometimes might make a stew with the small scraps, though.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on July 20, 2014, 06:37:29 pm
I make mine into everything.  Stews, Pates and terrines, spaghetti sauce, roats, etc.

Braised venison is great, slow cooked over a wood fire works, fried with seasoned flour in bacon grease never hurt my feelings either.  I had a German chef make me some had a tad of vinegar in the sauce, was terrific. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 20, 2014, 08:09:52 pm
Howdy
I know what I want my wife to fix for supper tomorrow night  . I want HER to cook tenderloin , fried with onion . I hope she will also fry some taters with it . She is a good cook , and  I'm damn lucky to have HER .






I have a new way of hauling my rifle around this summer .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 22, 2014, 04:55:20 pm
Howdy
The fried Tenderloin was Excellent as always .  ;D ;D ;D I have a picture of my 44 wcf , if I can get a close shot this fall I may use my pistol ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 03, 2014, 11:28:30 am
Howdy
Well it's almost Squirrel season. I have my double barrel ready and my black powder shotgun shells loaded for hunting . When season opens we always use shotguns , then when the leaves start falling we break out our rifles .  
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on August 04, 2014, 05:27:14 pm
Howdy
Well it's almost Squirrel season. I have my double barrel ready and my black powder shotgun shells loaded for hunting . When season opens we always use shotguns , then when the leaves start falling we break out our rifles .  

So . . .

You smoke 'em with a pipe?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 04, 2014, 08:36:20 pm
Bob
The pipe is for the skitters . I haven't smoked that pipe in a couple years , but I still pack it  ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Mean Bob Mean on August 05, 2014, 05:16:55 pm
Bob
The pipe is for the skitters . I haven't smoked that pipe in a couple years , but I still pack it  ???

Smart
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 24, 2014, 06:17:53 pm
Howdy
Deer season is about 2 weeks away . After work I got a chance to pop a few rounds . My 73 is ready for Deer season . And I have my vacation lined out for the opening weekend  of rifle season . My plans are to camp for the week . Who's READY ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 12, 2014, 07:38:29 pm
Howdy
Just wanted to share a few pictures of my Deer .The 44wcf did an Excellent job .
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Post by: Cliff Fendley on November 12, 2014, 07:55:03 pm
Awesome Rowdy. Congrats.
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Post by: MJN77 on November 12, 2014, 08:59:40 pm
Good golly, that's a fantastic deer Rowdy. Congratulations sir.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 12, 2014, 09:36:54 pm
Thanks fellows
Here's a couple more pic
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 12, 2014, 10:23:27 pm
Wow! Rowdy that is a Top End buck! Good on Ya!,,,,,,,DT
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Post by: Yuma Kid on November 12, 2014, 10:23:59 pm
Rowdy,
How about a hunting article for the "Shootist"?  I'll love to add those pictures to the magazine.
Yuma
Editor, Shootist magazine
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2014, 08:15:10 am
Yuma
I will start working on that project .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on November 13, 2014, 09:10:27 am
Nice deer Rowdy. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on November 13, 2014, 05:29:23 pm
Nice deer Rowdy, what will the rack score?  I'm always jealous about you guys that can use rifles for deer,
here in Iowa we can only use shotguns. I'd love to use a Winchester for deer. Let us know what the green
score is on your rack. P.S. nice looking shirt, Pam wonders if you have it wore out yet.

                                BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 13, 2014, 07:04:29 pm
BTB
It scored a 162 Boone & Crockett . I think that is my LUCKY Shirt , wish I had another one .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 13, 2014, 10:02:27 pm
Nice deer, Rowdy!

Gonna try it this year, took out my old 1894 in 38-55 today, shot a few rounds just to be sure it's shooting where I look, it was. Haven't ever worked up any loads for it, just have some cast bullet cowboy loads and a part box of Winchester factory stuff. Seven left in that box now, If I can't get one with 7 , then any more won't likely help.

I haven't hunted for years with open sights, but last spring I went for new glasses, and WOW, can see sights again! Optometrist told me my old prescription was actually too strong, now with the new glasses I can see the sights again, So I'm giving it a try, al least part of the season.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 15, 2014, 03:51:10 pm
Howdy
Thanks everyone for the kind words . Hope everyone has a SAFE and successful Hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 16, 2014, 05:47:55 pm
Well, so far no luck with the '94 38-55. No problem with the rifle, just didn't see a single deer(from the stand). Saw one each going out and coming in from the stand this morning, but they both saw me first :-[

Didn't sit this afternoon, was snowing pretty heavy, just walked the woods. Saw several, but as before, they saw me first. Amazing how quietly they can run in the snow, compared to all the noise they make in the leaves when they take off. Tracked one in the snow a while, he circled back and was tracking me! then he figured out I knew, he went to the thick cedars. Still was a great day hunting, the new snow in the cedars is just beautiful!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on November 16, 2014, 05:57:45 pm
Sounds like a Great day well spent, pony express! Good Luck on your next hunt.,,,,,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 19, 2014, 05:32:09 pm
Pony Express
Good luck on your Hunting . The 38-55 is a good old cartridge , it will take em down .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 19, 2014, 06:15:11 pm
Once again I saw only squirrels, and I think the 38-55 is a bit much for them.

I did get one deer with the 38-55 about 8-9 years ago. Went down just like the ones I've shot with a .308.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 20, 2014, 04:43:23 pm
Howdy
I still have a Doe tag that I plan on filling this weekend . I will be armed with my 73 in 44wcf and my USFA in 44wcf . Hope Saturday is dry I'm not a fan of hunting in the rain . BUT if it rains I will break out my slicker .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 21, 2014, 07:29:56 pm
No luck so far with the '94, no fault of the rifle, just never saw anything while I was carrying it. Did get one with the modern one, though. Back to the 38-55 tomorrow, but I'm does only now.


Edit: Oh, the irony! I checked my deer online, and they gave me the confirmation number.....some assorted letters, followed by.......38-55! I guess the conservation department is trying to guilt me about leaving the old Winchester home this afternoon!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on November 22, 2014, 02:38:02 pm
Thatis ironic. I guess you know what you need to do next time!

CC Griff
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 22, 2014, 10:26:13 pm
Tried with the '94 again this morning, but again only saw squirrels. Maybe I could make some round ball loads for it.....
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Yuma Kid on November 23, 2014, 12:01:14 am
Maybe you should be huntin squirrels, then ya might see some deer.   ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 15, 2014, 04:42:53 pm
Howdy
I have had an Excellent Deer season . Hope everyone had a safe and productive Hunting season . This Saturday I plan on breaking out my old smoke pole . 90 grains of powder and a patched round ball work wonders on Whitetail Deer .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on December 31, 2014, 05:56:34 pm
It's all over here in Missouri, except for the bow shooters. Got one in the freezer, but unfortunately not with the 1894. Looking forward to next year!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2015, 03:01:01 pm
Howdy
The 2014 Deer season is over . It's time to start planning for the 2015 Deer season . I am working on a story for the Shootist. I hope winter's not to hard on everyone . I have a couple days off hope to smoke another Coyote .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Yuma Kid on January 06, 2015, 02:42:16 pm
Rowdy, (or anyone else)
Don't forget about doing a vintage hunting article for the Shootist!
Yuma
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 16, 2015, 06:48:10 pm
Yuma
I am working on it .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 23, 2015, 08:32:42 pm
Howdy
I plan on going Quail hunting tomorrow . I will try my 87 it has a short barrel so it should work as a bird gun . I seen a nice covey of birds during Deer season . I hope we can kill a few to have for Sunday lunch ,they are fine eating .

And yes I put a plug in it so the game warden will be happy .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 31, 2015, 09:17:22 pm
Howdy
 Don't know where the Quail went , I have walk the farm over twice no birds . But the good news is I got my mount back today .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Shawnee McGrutt on February 01, 2015, 04:24:35 pm
Rowdy, nice looking mount.  I like the European mounts.  Had a moose done that way, it is sharp looking.  Got to learn to post pictures.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 03, 2015, 05:38:22 pm
Yuma
I have finished the article .


Shawnee
Let's hear about that Moose ,  hows the meat taste and don't say like chicken .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 08, 2015, 11:59:21 am
Howdy
I have sent in my Deer Hunting article for the Shootist Magazine .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 21, 2015, 09:30:55 am
Howdy
Well friends turkey season is fast approaching . I can't wait to smoke ole Tom Turkey . Not only are they fun to hunt , but they are EXCELLENT eating . Until then I will keep after the Coyotes . I spotted 4  yesterday BUT they were at about 500 yards and moving fast .

Here is a turkey from a couple years ago taken with a 1878 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 27, 2015, 04:44:18 pm
Howdy
The ground is still covered in snow . That's why I like this picture . I am ready for Turkey season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 22, 2015, 10:28:24 pm
Howdy
   Turkey season is weeks away . We can start planning our next adventure . I wiped my ole double barrel down tonight . Then I dug through my shotgun shells to ensure I had enough BP ammo loaded . I still have a couple boxes which is more than enough . Plan on patterning my shotgun this week . And last but not least , it's time to hunt up my Turkey calls . There's nothing more exciting than to call a gobbling Tom into shooting range .

Here is a picture from 2008
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 28, 2015, 12:43:14 pm
Howdy
 Went Turkey scouting today . I watch turkeys on 2 different farms . Hope I can call ole Tom away from the hens on opening day ??? 

Here is a couple pictures from past Turkey season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 17, 2015, 05:22:31 pm
Howdy
Tomorrow is opening day . Hope all the Turkey Hunters a Safe and successful hunt . Smoke those Turkeys .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 04, 2015, 08:36:45 pm
Howdy
Looks like last winter was tough on the Turkeys . I haven't see as many as usual . Haven't fired a shot this year . I aint smoked nuthin YET . Plan on hunting Saturday and Sunday . Hum I better be home early Sunday Mothers Day . I wish I could win the Lottery then I could hunt EVERYDAY . A bad day hunting is still better than a good day at work .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 11, 2015, 04:47:10 pm
Howdy
There is a simple explanation for not posting any Turkey pictures . I didn't kill a single Turkey .Oh well there is the fall season. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 26, 2015, 10:18:49 pm
Howdy
Now is the perfect time to check your weapons and Hunting loads . I try shooting at different ranges from close to far . Have you shot your rifle at 10 yards ? you might have a Deer come under your stand , be close enough to spit on . Do you KNOW where your Rifle shoots at , at that distance ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 08, 2015, 04:31:17 pm
Howdy
My Deer picture and Testimonial about Triple 7 is on Hodgdon facebook page .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 07, 2015, 05:34:58 pm
Howdy
I have been working with a Pietta in 44wcf . I wanted a 4 3/4 in barrel to carry hunting with my 73 . It past all my test and will be in the field in Deer season . It's a poor boys 1 st generation colt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 07, 2015, 05:22:46 pm
Howdy
Hope everyone enjoyed the Hunting story in the Shootist .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Yuma Kid on August 07, 2015, 05:35:52 pm
Rowdy,
I did!  Thanks for the submission.
Yuma
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on August 07, 2015, 06:38:05 pm
Good article Rowdy, I'm jealous you can use centerfire rifles, we can only use shotguns
here. Will there be new buckskin clothes from the hide?

                                         BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on August 07, 2015, 07:13:55 pm
Rowdy Boy, Enjoyed your article in the Shootist. Cant' wait for the 44/40 revolver article. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 10, 2015, 08:49:42 pm
Howdy
Thinking about doing an article on Shotguns . Shotguns kept meat on the table .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Kinchafoonee Kid on August 10, 2015, 10:20:41 pm
Rowdy, great article in theShootist! I enjoyed it very much! I need to get my Uberti .44 WCF out fora hunt with black powder!

Josiah
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 11, 2015, 06:08:09 pm
Kid
 Thanks for the kind words about the article .The 44wcf is a excellent Deer round in it's range . And yes I have started planning for this Deer season . Hope you go on a Vintage Deer hunt , it's a BLAST .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 14, 2015, 10:43:01 pm
Howdy
Good luck to all the Squirrel hunters out there . In Kentucky season opens tomorrow . Squirrel pot pie is hard to beat .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 05, 2015, 12:42:23 pm
Howdy
What's your favorite shotgun for Vintage Hunting . A old trusty single barrel . or a hammered double . Maybe a lever or pump action shotgun .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 01, 2015, 09:59:24 pm
Howdy
In 6 weeks Rifle season opens . I can't wait . My biggest problem is which rifle to use ? The 76 in 45-60 or the 73 in 44wcf . Plan on shooting this weekend . Need to be at the top of my game on opening day .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 20, 2015, 04:26:00 pm
Howdy
I went muzzle loader hunting last weekend . I spotted a nice Buck but didn't get a shot at him . Sure hope he's still there in Rifle season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 31, 2015, 07:29:05 pm
Howdy
Rifle season for Deer is almost here . I have scouted and the Deer sign looks pretty good . Here is a few of the Tools I use .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 22, 2015, 08:56:26 am
Howdy
The 2015 Deer season was a tough hunt . Mother nature was doing her best at being nasty . Wind and heavy rain are never a hunters favorite weather . BUT we will be there regardless .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 22, 2015, 06:26:37 pm
I've been able to go out 4 days so far, sometimes with the '94 38-55, sometimes modern. So far, only things I have seen while on the stand: 1 possum, 1 armadillo, multitudes of squirrels, and several turkeys. Only deer I have seen were either going to the stand, or coming back, and they never stayed around long enough for a shot.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 27, 2015, 08:48:10 pm
Pony Express
Hope things  are going good for your  Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 27, 2015, 10:21:07 pm
Been kind of alternating going out with the '94 and "modern", so far the old '94 has been skunked, but got a big doe with the .308. Still have a week od doe season, so all hope is not lost. Then there's the "alternative methods" season in Dec. Used to be for Muzzle loaders, but now it includes cartridge handguns.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 02, 2015, 04:43:41 pm
Howdy
This weekend Turkey season will be in , wanting to use my 87 . But it has the short barrel and open choke . Which means I have to get em close . Who has taken Turkeys with a 87 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 10, 2015, 04:54:11 pm
Howdy
This Saturday is Muzzle loading season . I plan on smoking me a nice Doe . If I am successful that will be my 21 Deer with that muzzle loader . I sit back and listen to people say you can't kill Deer with those old round balls . What are these people thinking ?
Oh well , Hope everyone has a SAFE and successful hunting season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: ira scott on December 11, 2015, 10:49:48 pm
Hey Rowdy!  I hate to publicly admit this, but the dozen or so deer I've smoked here in Nebraska have all been taken with modern inlines, saboted bullets, and after the state made it legal a few years ago a 3x9 scope.  OH THE SHAME!! Please don't give me too much of a tongue lashin! I shot my sidelock today with a patched RB and holy black in preparation for a hunting trip next weekend. Quickfire and I will try to make you proud. Will a RB penetrate both sides of a Nebraska sized deer if you shoot it in the shoulder (scapula)? I'm shooting a 50 cal. 180gr. RB with 100 grains of FFG., seemed to group pretty well, a couple inches at 50 yds. off the bench. 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 12, 2015, 02:57:03 pm
Ira
You won't have no problem shooting through your Deer . Unless you try a Quigley shot . I usually shot Deer at about 50 yards , I hunt in the thick part of the woods and that is about as far as you can see . As for the inlines I have NO PROBLEM with them . I'm just a lover of the old ways . I shoot 90 grains of powder . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 13, 2015, 08:28:10 am
Howdy
This weekend Turkey season will be in , wanting to use my 87 . But it has the short barrel and open choke . Which means I have to get em close . Who has taken Turkeys with a 87 .

  Years ago a well known outdoor writer prophesied that someday the choke of a shotgun would be "built" in to the shotgun shell. He, Jack O'Connor, was exactly right.

  Several years ago I guided a spring turkey hunt in which I carried an old Fox "B" in 16 ga. "just in case". I assumed it was choked modified in the left barrel and full in the right, just as most all the old long barreled doubles were. So I grabbed a handful of W-W 1 1/8 oz. of #4's and off we go. As luck would have it I was able to call in a Tom for the fella I was guiding and also for myself. I killed mine clean as a whistle and thought nothing of it.

   A couple of years later I was measuring the chokes on a couple of shotguns and measured the old Fox. Much to my surprise, the left barrel was choked IC and the right somewhere around SK. I'd shot that Tom at a pretty fair distance with the right barrel.

   The moral of this story is the quality of the shotgun shell used can overcome the degree of the choke. Too, large shot, say from #4 or #5 and up, pattern much more evenly with open chokes.

    So load or grab some shells loaded with good, high antimony shot, buffered if possible, and go hunt up a Tom!

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 13, 2015, 04:42:41 pm
Here in Iowa we can't use centerfire rifles for deer so I have a rifled barrel shotgun. Last Saturday
was opening day and I shot at a nice doe at about 90 yds. it turned and walked straight in front
of me at about 100 yds, it stopped so I shot again thinking I missed the first shot. It dropped on the
second shot. Alas when I was skinning it there were 2 holes through it 1/2" apart. The proof will be
in the sewn holes in the buckskin.

                         BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 13, 2015, 05:53:07 pm
Billy
Is that going to be MY new shirt  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: John Smith on December 14, 2015, 07:19:35 am
Here in Iowa we can't use centerfire rifles for deer so I have a rifled barrel shotgun. Last Saturday
was opening day and I shot at a nice doe at about 90 yds. it turned and walked straight in front
of me at about 100 yds, it stopped so I shot again thinking I missed the first shot. It dropped on the
second shot. Alas when I was skinning it there were 2 holes through it 1/2" apart. The proof will be
in the sewn holes in the buckskin.

                         BTB

What's the difference between a rifle and a "shotgun" with a rifled barrel.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 14, 2015, 04:21:27 pm
A rifled barrel fits on a shotgun and shoots a sabot slug. The original intent was to limit
the range of the bullets from flying very far in populated areas, but with technology some
of these are accurate out to 200 yds. Mine doesn't like the fast slugs, when I could get federal
slugs with Barnes expanders it shot a 3 shot 1'' group at 100 yds. They no longer make those and I'm still
searching for something close to those, now probably 3-4" group.

                               BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 14, 2015, 05:33:04 pm
BTB
I have a 87 with a 20 inch barrel I have always thought that would make an excellent slug gun . A lever action slug gun sounds fun ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Pitspitr on December 15, 2015, 07:38:04 am
What qualifies as "Vintage?"

I shot a nice doe this year with my M-1898 US Krag. Funny thing, our soldiers thought they were under armed with the Krag, but that doe didn't. She went down like a ton of bricks and never even twitched.

I went out Saturday with my T/C Hawkens and never got a shot, but to be honest, I'd made up my mind to be really picky on what I shot since I already have meat in the freezer.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: John Smith on December 15, 2015, 08:16:47 am
A rifled barrel fits on a shotgun and shoots a sabot slug. The original intent was to limit
the range of the bullets from flying very far in populated areas, but with technology some
of these are accurate out to 200 yds. Mine doesn't like the fast slugs, when I could get federal
slugs with Barnes expanders it shot a 3 shot 1'' group at 100 yds. They no longer make those and I'm still
searching for something close to those, now probably 3-4" group.

                               BTB

I know what a "slug gun" is, my question is since the barrel is rifled, why isn't it a "rifle"? 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 15, 2015, 04:20:54 pm
Pitspitr
What makes it Vintage ? That's a Excellent question . I would say anything up to 1899 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 15, 2015, 05:10:03 pm
J.S. good question, but a rifled barrel on a 12 or 20 gauge shotgun is legal.
I think it's a case of technology going around the intent of the law. I don't
think muzzleloaders were ever expected to be shooting 2000 fps either.
I probably shouldn't have posted this here, but I wanted to tell Rowdy
a huntin story.
                             BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 16, 2015, 04:33:54 pm
BTB
We all love a Hunting story .   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Have you out grown any buckskin shirts lately ? I'm in bad need of a another shirt .Wish you and your Family a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Years  and all of my NCOWS family the same . Merry Christmas Everyone .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on December 17, 2015, 08:38:30 am
Rowdy, Do hope you and yours have a very Merry Christmas. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: John Smith on December 17, 2015, 10:04:57 am
Anyone care to tell me why my last post was removed?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 19, 2015, 10:13:29 am
Rowdy, whats wrong with your shirt? Has the thread worn out or is the buckskin actually wearing
through. The last couple of years I've just been tanning the hides that I've shot, I'm thinking of
making a coat or a pair of pants. I had a pair of pants made out of chrome tanned leather, they
suck to wear compared to brain tanned. I put on a seminar on brain tanning at a NCOWS conv.
a few years ago, did you or anyone else try brain tanning. It will give you very much satisfaction
to be able to tan your own hides, but it's NOT easy to learn or do.

                                                 BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 20, 2015, 01:40:44 pm
BTB
I love the brain tanned shirt I got from you . But she is wearing   out .  I have a few places on it where the campfire was   popping and there are a few small holes burned in it . Didn't get to have a fire this Deer season to windy .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on December 20, 2015, 07:28:49 pm
Rowdy, you're worrying about a couple "character" holes. One day when I was smoking
hides I had two nice big beautiful soft hides stapled together and had a flashover in my
smothered fire. In one big WHOOSH they got so hot they shrunk in half. 16 hours of
hard work worth $250 gone in a flash  ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
                                            BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 21, 2015, 04:42:47 pm
BTB
That sounds like my luck . My shirt is taking on lots of character . A few blood stains and few holes from the campfire and just wear and tear .With Deer season over I am back after Coyotes . They are hard critters  to get a bullet in . But ever now and then they mess up and get to close .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 31, 2015, 03:29:14 pm
Howdy
I have ate a few of my Deer Steaks , and they are Great . I had snack stick made too . They are real good . I have my Jerky meat marinading and will have it in the Dehydrator tomorrow . Plan on Coyote Hunting and after that will fix Jerky .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on January 01, 2016, 06:05:50 pm
I made some 3lb sticks of deer summer sausage, I cut them in half and give them to the people
who let me hunt and we have them here for munchies during the holidays. I use a sausage kit
and add garlic and mustard seed, it really turns out good. CELEBRATE the hunt!!!


                                             BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: ira scott on January 01, 2016, 09:29:29 pm
Well Rowdy, an update on my attempt to shoot a patched R.B. through a whitetail. Wanna hear all the excuses first? Deer showed up too soon (kinda startled me), last 10 minutes of shootin time on a cloudy day, (kinda dark) with a peep sight, fingers were kinda cold, and OH SHIT!!! that set trigger is light!!! I told Quickfire I didn't really consider it a miss because the gun went off before I had the sights where I wanted them, but he called B. S. Pretty sure it was the closest "miss" in my 35 year hunting career! The next day  however, I put a saboted 300 grain Hornady FXT bullet through a doe at 162 paces with my scoped inline. Muzzleloader season ended in NE yesterday at 30 minutes after sunset, but it's only 11 months till next December! I'II BE BACK! (I just got a .58 cal. Pedersoli Kodiak double rifle to play with, so next year I could potentially miss twice real fast!)
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 01, 2016, 09:37:50 pm
  Don't know if this is considered "vintage" hunting, but I used my Uberti Bisley in 45 Colt. Range was just shy of 45 yds.

 (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Javelina%201_zps5sfjhkjy.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/Javelina%201_zps5sfjhkjy.jpg.html)

 (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Javelina_zpsxkim0uvo.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/Javelina_zpsxkim0uvo.jpg.html)

  Cholla
 
 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 02, 2016, 10:09:29 am
Ira
Congrats on the Doe . Hope you get a Monster Buck next year with your double Rifle .

CHT
Excellent job with your Bisley . Thanks for posting pictures . How was the meat ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: ira scott on January 02, 2016, 12:00:13 pm
I'm pretty sure God made javelinas for targets, not for eatin! I made chili with a south Texas javelina and it was horrible! Maybe it needed to be marinated or smoked? Nice shot with the Bisley!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 05, 2016, 06:00:42 pm
I'm pretty sure God made javelinas for targets, not for eatin! I made chili with a south Texas javelina and it was horrible! Maybe it needed to be marinated or smoked? Nice shot with the Bisley!

 Yep, that's pretty much how it is with javelinas. I normally leave them alone, but that morning I was fed up with them running the deer off.
 But Sunday, the last morning of season this spike finally showed up and I fired upon him from 48 yds. out. A high shoulder hit put him down immediately.
 
  (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Spike%20with%2045%20Colt-%20reduced_zpsqwppzshz.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/Spike%20with%2045%20Colt-%20reduced_zpsqwppzshz.jpg.html)

 He's been hanging in the cool shop for almost three days and I intend for him to hang several more. The wife made some stew out of venison New Years Eve and it was to DIE for! That buck had hung for about 10 days and the meat was extremely tender.

 CHT

 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on January 06, 2016, 06:12:31 am
Almost 50 yards with a .45-not bad shooting!
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 06, 2016, 11:12:10 am
Almost 50 yards with a .45-not bad shooting!

   Thanks. It takes me practicing shooting at 50 yds. alot to make shots at that range. And  with the relatively small rear sight on the Colt repros I'm finding 50 yds. is about my limit.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 09, 2016, 05:14:13 pm
Cholla
Congrats on the Deer . Have you made any Jerky yet ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on January 10, 2016, 03:46:46 pm
Today is the last day of pheasant season, I wanted to take my young lab out once more
but the temp was -6 with a windchill of-30 so I changed my mind. I was going to use the
stevens dbl, hopefully there will be more pheasants next year, they're starting to come
back a little, but nothing like years ago. $7.00 corn took out a LOT of habitat a couple
years ago.

                                                BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 11, 2016, 10:19:40 am
Cholla
Congrats on the Deer . Have you made any Jerky yet ?

  No jerky. Venison is a staple at our supper table so jerky would be a luxury. Maybe next year I'll shoot three and jerk some of the meat.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 12, 2016, 04:43:29 pm
Howdy
I have a picture of my favorite Hunting shirt and my Pietta in 44wcf and a Stek knife . The Shirt was made by Bear Tooth Billy and I love wearing it while Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 17, 2016, 09:29:12 pm
Howdy
Plan on working up a black powder load for my 73 in 44wcf . I guess my New Years resolution is to mimic the 44wcf load of the 1870's . Also if we have a smokeless load , a black powder sub load and last but not least a Black Powder load then if you want to Vintage Hunt we have a load for YOU . So grab your Rifle and go Hunting . And when season is over and your  watching Lonesome Dove and eating Deer Jerky you will be glad you went Hunting . Life is GOOD .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 24, 2016, 04:33:37 pm
Howdy
 A coyote I killed a couple years ago .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 27, 2016, 04:58:58 pm
Howdy
Who's ready for Turkey season . I can't wait to smoke me an Ol Tom turkey .  I still have the short barreled 87 and haven't tubed it yet . If that don't work out I can fall back on my ttn . It has taken a few Turkeys over the years .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 13, 2016, 09:11:59 am
Howdy
I got a new hunting knife . It was made my Stek and I'm real happy with it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on February 15, 2016, 12:25:13 pm
  Nice knife!!

  I'm thinking next year I  may have to try my 1866 Sporting Rifle on deer. It never ceases to amaze me how accurate this rifle is! Today I loaded up a couple dozen rounds consisting of 2.2cc of Swiss 3Fg under an RNFP from an NOE 44-200 mould. I thought it'd be fun to try them at 200 yds. from a prone position using my improvised, temporary sling. Due to a slightly variable wind quartering towards me from the left and gusting to around 20 mph, I had to hold into the wind a little. Still, all but three of the rounds hit in the 12" center!
  I'm hooked...

 (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/1873%20Uberti%20Sporting%20Rifle/200%20yds.%20prone-1_zpsyfxip9nw.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/1873%20Uberti%20Sporting%20Rifle/200%20yds.%20prone-1_zpsyfxip9nw.jpg.html)

  CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 20, 2016, 11:04:49 am
CHT
   the 44wcf is still a good Deer cartridge . It's like all things it has it's limits . And in it's limits it works . Here is my proof .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on February 22, 2016, 09:27:53 am
The sights on my  Marlin 44/40 are only good for just over 150 yards. But good out to there. Tj 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on February 27, 2016, 06:50:39 am
Rowdy, I've got just the thing for you, I made a ammo box out of scraped buffalo rawhide,
laced together with sinew, with handle and ties made of brain tanned buckskin. It will be
on the silent auction at our banquet at the convention.

                                   BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 27, 2016, 05:55:26 pm
BTB
That ammo box sounds great , how about posting a picture . That way everyone can start getting their money ready .
Also wanted to thank you for the care package you sent me . Thanks again .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Johnny McCrae on February 28, 2016, 02:40:07 pm
Rowdy,
Attached is a picture of Bear Tooth Billy's Rawhide Ammo Box.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 28, 2016, 05:36:01 pm
Howdy
That is one fine looking ammo box . Every NCOWS member will want that . Bear Tooth Billy you did a great job . Thanks Johnny for posting picture .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 13, 2016, 10:02:25 am
Howdy
Looks like I will have a long barreled 87 shotgun for Turkey season . Frog has installed a 28 inch barrel on a china repro . Hope to get shotgun on Tuesday . Will keep you posted .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 17, 2016, 09:02:33 pm
Howdy
Here she is .   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tornado on March 18, 2016, 07:15:35 am
Cool! Is that a Winchester logo you had engraved?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 18, 2016, 05:01:58 pm
Tornado
Yes it has been engraved with the WRA logo .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 29, 2016, 05:51:56 pm
Howdy
Turkey season is almost here . Hope everyone a safe and productive season . I am really excited about the 87 shotgun . Today I patterned my shotgun at 25 and 30 yards . No problem out to 30 yards . Wanting to try a few 40 yard shots .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 03, 2016, 08:18:02 am
Howdy
Here is a picture of the long barreled 87 with my stek knife . I have my bp loaded shells loaded in paper hulls .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on April 03, 2016, 08:26:13 am
Howdy
Here is a picture of the long barreled 87 with my stek knife . I have my bp loaded shells loaded in paper hulls .

  Rowdy...you do realize that in order to be 100% "period correct" you're going to need to use a turkey call made from the wingbone of a jake, don't you?  ;D

 CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on April 03, 2016, 08:31:13 am
Looks good Rowdy, good luck after a gobbler, it's cool when it all works out
and he is after you. The hunter becomes the hunted, (although for entirely
different reasons) ;D ;D  A few years ago at a gun show a fellow NCOWS member
was carrying an original 87 and wanted $400 for it. It had a small dent in the
barrel so I passed on it, found out later I could have it fixed easily, so I'm
still kicking myself about that one.  

                      BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on April 03, 2016, 08:47:26 am
Happy turkey season Rowdy. I like that 87 of yours.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 04, 2016, 06:43:25 pm
Howdy
Thanks everyone , I have been wanting to use a wing bone call ,but I  don't have one and I don't know anything about using one ? yet . I have an old wooden box call that I use some and other calls I use . If you haven't tried Turkey Hunting you are missing out on a TRUE Adventure .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on April 16, 2016, 09:51:49 pm
Rowdy, Do hope you get one with that 87. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 15, 2016, 07:19:36 pm
Howdy
Well no Turkey this Spring . But I will be ready this Fall .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 21, 2016, 11:17:31 am
Howdy
Spring Squirrel season is in . Do we have any Squirrel hunters out there ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on May 22, 2016, 07:44:30 am
Rowdy, I never heard of a spring squirrel season, does the DNR know about that ;)



                                               BTB

                                             
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 13, 2016, 07:35:14 pm
BTB
Yes they do . Looks like I will have to wait till at least August . Got to busy for the spring season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 02, 2016, 03:34:18 pm
Howdy
The weather is perfect for working up your hunting load . And you have lots of time to fine tune your load . I am thinking about using a Remington Rolling Block this Deer season . I have had this rifle for several years and have just not worked with it . I am going to mow the range , the grass is waist high . That way I can work with my RB and sling some 45-70 lead down range . Remember Deer season is only 5 months away .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on July 02, 2016, 03:58:50 pm
Even though I like the rolling blocks my .45-70 is this:




Just ignore the mean looking smokeyless pistol.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 04, 2016, 12:31:20 pm
Howdy
Thanks for posting a picture of your Rifle and pistol . Nice looking Rifle and a neat old pistol . Here is a picture of my RB and my Stek knife .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on July 04, 2016, 03:04:17 pm
Good looking RB (assume original) and gorgeous knife.
My 1886 has Winchester written on it, but it's got slanted eyes.
The Mauser pistol on the other hand has been around since 1910(and shows it). ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 06, 2016, 04:53:44 pm
ST
Got a chance to shoot the old RB and it still shoots good . Thinking about a Vintage Hunt with the old RB . It's a good ole rifle but it's heavy , definitely need a sling to lug it around with . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 30, 2016, 02:52:13 pm
Howdy
Found a couple old pictures from back in 2005 . I killed a Buck with my Marlin 40-65 , and a nice doe with my yellow boy in 45 colt . This was the early stages of Vintage Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 09, 2016, 06:13:37 pm
Howdy
Do we have any Squirrel hunters out there ? Season opens in a few days plan on using the 87 and bp loads . I hope to get my limit on opening day .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 27, 2016, 09:55:46 am
Howdy
Being a new grandpa just wanted to show you the next generation of Vintage Hunter .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on August 27, 2016, 09:59:47 am
Congratulations Rowdy, one of Gods greatest gifts. A Grandchild ! ,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 27, 2016, 02:27:11 pm
Dusty
Thanks , you are so right .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: River City John on August 27, 2016, 03:00:23 pm
Fine looking Grandson, Rowdy.









RCJ
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on August 28, 2016, 09:29:18 am
Rowdy, Fine looking grandson and granddad has a big smile. Tj
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Crow Choker on August 28, 2016, 10:02:49 am
Your a good lookiin pair. Congrats, fine lookin grandson. Mine love to come to Gampa's to look at my guns and shoot. One told his mother once if ISIS ever attacks, he's goin to Gampa's because he has guns.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 28, 2016, 10:35:21 am
Howdy
Thanks everyone for the kind words about my Grandson . I dream about the days we can go Hunting and  Shooting together .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on September 04, 2016, 08:07:48 am
Rowdy, can't believe neither one of you are wearing buckskin ??? ;D

                                                        BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on September 04, 2016, 10:01:27 am
Rowdy, can't believe neither one of you are wearing buckskin ??? ;D

                                                        BTB

Give him a break. He's a vintage hunter. Never said anything about being a "vintage Grandpa".  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 12, 2016, 08:37:29 pm
Howdy
Thanks for the kind words . And I am thinking about a set of buck skins for my grandson in a couple years . Wonder how a car shammy would work for the early years . make a neat set of pj's .  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 26, 2016, 07:35:50 pm
Howdy
I have loaded a few soft lead bullets and 35 gr. of Old E in my 44wcf . Hope to try a few after work this week . I worked on food plots yesterday . I am trying to help the deer control their cholesterol by planting winter oats .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 06, 2016, 07:30:38 pm
Howdy
Got a chance to check my oats and they are up , about 4 inches tall . Next weekend is Muzzle Loader season  plan on shooting my smoke pole this weekend . That old round ball rifle has taken 21 deer so far .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 09, 2016, 12:46:53 pm
Howdy
Muzzle loading season comes in next Saturday . So I went and shot my old Pennsylvania Hunter Rifle . 90 grains of powder and a patched round ball will deliver lots of Deer Jerky . THE PLAN ? is to shoot a nice fat Doe , I'm ready for some fresh meat .

Bear Tooth Billy How man hides does it take to make a shirt ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on October 09, 2016, 06:46:50 pm
Rowdy, I will say 4,  sounds like a lot but by the time you cut all the pieces for fringe etc.
Possibly 3 large deer, but my experience is that it's easier to get smaller deer soft, big bucks
have more square footage but need to be thinned and are hard to get that really nice soft
brain tan that is so awesome. Good Luck!!

                                         BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tjackstephens on October 10, 2016, 09:29:28 am
The air has a slight chill to it. Fall is one the way. Wish I could still hunt. Sure miss it. Tj :(
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 30, 2016, 11:13:53 am
Howdy
Finally got a chance to try a few of the soft lead bullets . They are looking real good so far . They are producing a nice group so far , if they won't group at 50 yards they sure won't group at 100 .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on October 30, 2016, 05:10:00 pm
Rowdy, during shotgun season we can use a muzzleloader here in Iowa. I finished a 50 cal flintlock kit for a friend
a couple of years ago and am thinking about borrowing it to take along during shotgun season if it's good weather.
I will develop a load on paper, but how good should this shoot and what kind of range are we talking.  Thanks


                                          BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Ol Gabe on October 31, 2016, 05:20:42 pm
B.T.B. and all the other NCOWS M/L & Vintage Shooters out there,
Jist a passing, progressive comment on a good load for M/L hunting using a percussion or flinter rifle.
Back in the day when I went out every chance I could, I carried a Navy Arms SXS 12 kit-made shotter gun for small stuff, rabbits, ducks and geese when possible. My Buckskinnin' huntin' Pal at that time got me hooked on M/L's and we would run circles around the 'modern' guys on the crikbeds and trap ranges, Annie Oakley here we come! Our shoulder bags were always loaded down by noonish with rabbit, quail, pheasant, squirell-tails and woodcock. Now I would happily challenge anyone that thinks you can't hunt woodcock with a SxS 12 M/L, it takes a bit of huffin' & puffin' in the boot-suckin' mud and muck but it is worth every reload! Used a flinter for most deer, one of Curly Gostomski's (sp?) handmade specials. Boy Howdy, could that thing make smoke and sparks! When you hit a deer with that short gun it stayed down fer sure and certain!
OK, here is a load I worked up for new M/L hunters, especially young gals from the Hunter Safety class I worked with when I taught the early M/L section. It doesn't sound like it would work, but think about the complete package of load, distance and rifle and it falls into place nicely: 50 cal. percussion or flintlock, 50 grains 2FF (most any powder will/would work well), 50 yards to target-maximum.
Now let us dissect the load, using a 50 cal. rifle your site plane is fairly dead-on at 50 yards after you sight it in, which at 50 yards shouldn't take long, your success ratio for the young shooter will be high. 50 grains BP, 2FF, good enough at 50 yards to knock down any sized deer if the shot is placed properly, i.e. don't shoot at running deer, only at standing deer with a clear background if possible. At 50 yards you can easily see the 'hit' spot and know your target will probably drop very soon.
So, 50 cal. rifle, 50 gr. BP, target at 50 yards. Practice and you'll come home with plenty of smiles and good eats!
Best regards and good shooting!
'Ol Gabe
NCOWS #925
P.S. Don't care who gets one using this formula, but post us all with your success if you do, I'll be holdin' down the home fire here as I can't get out like I used to, at least I'll be able to 'see' how well it goes.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2016, 07:35:06 pm
BTB
I shoot a 50 caliber Muzzle Loader . It is a Pennsylvania Hunter by TC . It's a round ball rifle and I shoot 90 grains of Powder . I have used all kinds of patches to get a TIGHT fit . I have also used the poly patches from Butler Creek and they worked fine for me . It's all about shot placement , I prefer a lung shot and when you blow a 50 caliber hole through the lungs they are down . Know your weapon and how far you can consistently hit a 6 inch circle . Oh and all the people who say a round ball won't shoot through a Deer I have taken 20 Deer with my rifle and the ball went through all of them . Hope this helps and Good Luck and Happy Hunting . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 17, 2016, 05:53:39 pm
Howdy
Chalk another one up for the 44wcf . Back after a Doe tomorrow .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 19, 2016, 09:48:05 am
My 1907 Win 94, 38-55 caliber, accounted for 2 does this morning just before 8:30. Both dropped where they were shot, but the second one kept its head up looking around, so I shot again in the neck to be sure it wasn't just stunned. First shot landed a little high, probably a spine hit, will know more after I field dress them. Ammo was Winchester factory soft points, I'll have to start reloading fro it, though, that box of factory shells is down to about 3 rounds. For now, though, Mama's got some pancakes and sausage cooked up. Nice to be able to hunt right here at home on the farm.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on November 19, 2016, 05:38:40 pm
I know, I know.....without pics it never happened!

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 20, 2016, 05:00:00 pm
PE
Good job with the 38-55 .You have lots of Jerky there . Congrats on your Hunt .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on November 27, 2016, 05:00:53 pm
Took the flintlock out for final tuneup today  60 grains swiss chronoed at 1460 fps.  I tried shooting
at 80 yds and was pleasantly surprised with an under 3" group  (bench with sandbags). we can use shotgun
or muzzleloader during shotgun season I'll take both and see what happens.

                                           BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 02, 2016, 05:58:19 pm
Howdy
Tomorrow fall Turkey Shotgun season opens . Plan on braking out the long barreled 87 and my BP loads .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 17, 2016, 07:19:46 pm
Howdy
Well no Turkey this year . But I have managed to take a coyote .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: ira scott on December 17, 2016, 09:16:51 pm
Nice lookin fur on that critter Rowdy! Make a fine hat! Did you put a sneak on him while he was nappin, or bring him in with a predator call? After Christmas Quickfire and I are going after the dangerous and elusive whitetail deer in north central Nebraska. I'm going to make another attempt to put a PRB through one. I've got the .58 cal. double Kodiak and a T.C. Hawken flintlock working good enough that I think a critter within 75 yds. or so is in peril. Hope it warms up just a tad, air temp. right now is about 5 degrees with probably -10 wind chill.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 21, 2016, 06:05:10 pm
Ira
Good luck on your upcoming Hunt , Hope you can stock up on jerky meat . As for the Coyote I spotted him coming down a grassy ditch and he was after mice . When he got close enough I let him have it .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on December 22, 2016, 07:23:49 pm
  130 years old and still putting meat on the table!

  (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/3%20point_zpswtji6qwy.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/3%20point_zpswtji6qwy.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Cast%20bullets/38-40%20bullets-3_zpsinepffvd.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Cast%20bullets/38-40%20bullets-3_zpsinepffvd.jpg.html)

 My first time using a BP load for any type of hunting. The load pictured above on the right is the one I used and consists of a compressed load of Swiss 3Fg and a bullet from an RCBS 40-180 mould that I cast with straight wheelweights (I know...sacrilege) and weighs 192 grs. So loaded it runs a little over 1300 fps and is really quite accurate out to 200 yds. with an occasional group going under 6" at that range. The buck was just shy of 50 yds. when I shot him, and he bolted at the shot. I stayed put in my little brush blind for about 20 minutes then found him dead as a hammer about 50 yds. away. The bullet entered the left side, low behind the shoulder breaking a rib, through the left lung, drilled the heart dead center, creased the right lung, out between two ribs on the right side, then somehow traveled under the skin several inches before exiting the off side of the right shoulder.

  I'm hooked.

    CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 22, 2016, 08:58:48 pm
CHT
Welcome to the Club . There are a few of us who love the old ways .  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Good Troy on December 27, 2016, 12:12:51 pm
And "they" say a 38-40 is too light for deer hunting!   Well placed shot CHT!!

Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 09, 2017, 05:12:35 pm
Howdy
Well 2017 is officially here . What are you Hunting in 2017 ? Are you planning any big Hunts ? Maybe a weekend hunt  ? Now Deer season is over I have been chasing Coyotes . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on January 09, 2017, 05:17:24 pm
  Thanks Troy!

Howdy
Well 2017 is officially here . What are you Hunting in 2017 ? Are you planning any big Hunts ? Maybe a weekend hunt  ? Now Deer season is over I have been chasing Coyotes . Good luck and Happy Hunting .
   
    Lots of ga me to hunt around the house but I mostly leave everything alone EXCEPT hogs. When I have a couple hours of daylight to burn and a north breeze into which I can walk, hogs are the next on the menu! And I'll be after them with my trusty Uberti. 44 Special.

   CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 15, 2017, 10:12:08 am
CHT
Good luck on your Hog hunt . Don't forget the pictures , everyone loves pictures .  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 14, 2017, 06:42:42 pm
Howdy
Today   I came across a field full of Buffalo . Now these are owned by a local Farmer . After work I loaded up the wife and we went for a drive and we watched the Buffalo and I snapped a few pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 02, 2017, 11:07:12 am
Howdy
Turkey season is almost here . I plan on using the 87 shotgun with black powder shells . Hope the weather is drier than last year . Who's turkey Hunting this Spring ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Cholla Hill Tirador on April 16, 2017, 11:29:36 pm
Howdy
Turkey season is almost here . I plan on using the 87 shotgun with black powder shells . Hope the weather is drier than last year . Who's turkey Hunting this Spring ?

 That'd be me! I finally made time to slip into the woods. Left the house about 10:00 a.m. Saturday, walked to the back of my place and made a big semi-circle from west to north, pausing every 50 yds. or so to call. I finally got into some shady woods, sat down on a mesquite to call one last time. This ol' boy never let out a peep, but the brilliant red, white and blue head cruising through the brush was a dead give away. He stopped behind a chaparral bush, and I waited until I had a decent shot.

  (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Hunting/Gobbler_zpschqunhns.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Hunting/Gobbler_zpschqunhns.jpg.html)

  Same 1886 production '73 Winchester 38-40 that I used during deer season, with the same BP load.

  CHT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Scattered Thumbs on April 17, 2017, 01:35:47 am
Howdy
Today   I came across a field full of Buffalo . Now these are owned by a local Farmer . After work I loaded up the wife and we went for a drive and we watched the Buffalo and I snapped a few pictures .

And you are right everyone loves pictures. ;D
Loved that one.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 22, 2017, 02:32:57 pm
Howdy
Today I killed a Turkey with a 87 shotgun and a hefty load of old E BP and #5 shot .

Congrats CHT on your  beautiful bird and a beautiful rifle .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 04, 2017, 07:42:34 pm
Howdy
Thought I would post a picture of the 87 and my jake .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 06, 2017, 09:39:17 am
Howdy
Was able to call in a Large Tom . This was a real adventure all the rain has made hunting tough . I was able to call him in and shot him at 30 yards . The 87 did an Excellent job ,and the old E loaded with#5 shot was a slam dunk .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: dusty texian on May 18, 2017, 05:44:46 pm
Kind of late , but just saw your post , that is a Dang good bird Rowdy. The old shotgun did it's  work for you. Takes a good hunter to bring / call in and kill a turkey within shotgun range  on his own . ,,,DT
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on June 02, 2017, 05:16:21 pm
Dusty
Turkey Hunting is a ton of FUN as you know . When you get a old Gobbler to come to your call , well it just don't get any better . The hard part is not to over call . Well Fall Turkey season is months away I guess I could load a few shells in anticipation .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 07, 2017, 08:40:25 pm
Howdy
Well Deer season is months away so its time to burn a little powder . I may break out the 76 this fall in 45-60 I have taken a few Deer with it . I had the barrel cut down to 24 inches to make a little Hunter friendly , it was that our get a mule to haul it  ;D ;D ;D Oh well .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 22, 2017, 09:47:50 am
Howdy
The 76 still shoots good , I like the 45-60 . It's fun to shoot but not  abusive on the shoulder . I have been at our Hunting cabin late in the afternoon and have noticed a good Deer crop this year .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on August 29, 2017, 08:44:09 pm
Howdy
Well Hunting season is almost here . Hope everyone has a Good safe hunting season . Looks like there 's plenty of Deer and Turkey for the season . Hows things looking around your area .  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: pony express on August 30, 2017, 06:14:55 am
There seems to be more deer than ever here where I live. It's an unusual day when I don't see several while driving to work. Not sure where they go when season opens, though.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 04, 2017, 11:17:39 am
Howdy
Are there any Dove Hunters out there ? Dove season is in now . Wondering if any one has taken any Doves with black powder  ? Sounds like a good time . Don't forget we love pictures . Happy Hunting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Tornado on September 05, 2017, 08:31:26 am
I went on my first dove hunt yesterday.  I used my Browning Light 12. , I did take my 1878 Cimarron as a back up, even had some blackpowder shells in the bag, but not many birds showed up so I didn't get a chance to break the BP out.
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 06, 2017, 07:43:15 pm
Tornado
Hope you get a chance to burn a little Black Powder . Good Luck .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on November 03, 2017, 06:45:23 pm
Howdy
Rifle season for Deer opens next Saturday . Who's ready ?
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 02, 2018, 08:44:16 pm
Howdy
Turkey season opens next month .Who's ready . I think i will break out my 1878 . The TTN has taken several birds over the seasons . 
I have a good load of Old  E and # 5 shot .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 12, 2018, 09:25:31 pm
Howdy
 Turkey season opens this Saturday .Good Luck to all the Hunters out there . Don't forget to take pictures .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 25, 2018, 07:58:21 pm
Howdy
What's up with the Turkey ? The Cool weather or rainy weather has the Tom's really quiet .  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: TomcatPC on April 25, 2018, 09:41:51 pm
Not sure if it counts as actual vintage hunting?, but I paid $20 to the state of Ohio so I could walk in some local woods with a shotgun.
I usually take a 1920-1930's-ish "Newport Model WN" (H&R made for Hibbard, Spencer and Bartlett) or Iver-Johnson Champion, both single shot 16 Ga Shotguns.
I actually brought back two squirrels a couple years back...bad "hunter", but I had fun and got out of the house.
Mark
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 09, 2018, 09:18:01 pm
Tomcat
Single barreled shotguns killed lots of game back in the day . Did you have a good time while out hunting , that's the most important thing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: TomcatPC on May 11, 2018, 12:58:27 pm
I had a great time!  Looking forward to Autumn and Winter again next year.  But first...I hope we have a long hot Spring and Summer so I can't do a lot of Vintage Scuba Diving!!!  Once I put the double hose regulators and old steel tanks away, out comes the 1940's canvas brown jacket and the Iver-Johnson 16 Ga. Champion!!
Mark
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on July 15, 2018, 11:44:54 am
Howdy
Hunting season is around the corner . Plan on shooting a few familiarization rounds this week . Trying to figure out what weapon to hunt with this fall . I  plan on carrying my NCOWS pistol from USFA  this fall .  The 45 Colt does a great job at pistol ranges . 
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 08, 2018, 11:58:36 am
Howdy
This year Kentucky has a firearm Doe only season the last weekend of September . Planning on a Vintage hunt with my 44wcf . I am out of Deer meat . Hope to take a nice fat Doe , excellent eating .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on September 17, 2018, 08:48:12 pm
Howdy
The Doe season was voted down . So I got all excited for nothing . Well I did go shoot my rifle , that was a good thing .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 14, 2018, 11:34:50 am
Howdy
Well it's almost Muzzle loader season . I went out and shot my TC White Mountain carbine yesterday . It shot Great , now in the past I have always Hunted with a TC Pennsylvania Hunter which is a round ball rifle . I have taken 21 Deer with that Rifle but this year I want to try the carbine . Yesterday when I shot the carbine it shot real good I sighted it in at 50 yards . That will work in the Woods that I hunt in . I am a fan of big side hammers , I guess I watched Jeremiah Johnson to many times as a kid till NOW . I just want to HUNT .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 22, 2018, 07:16:52 pm
Howdy
Well early muzzle loader season is over . Had a good time , but didn't bust a cap . I have taken a week of vacation to rifle hunt . So the plan is to hunt and camp for a week . Wish everyone a safe and successful season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Big Goose on October 26, 2018, 03:38:35 pm
It's been awhile since I've posted anything here, but figured folks might find this interesting.
Montana buffalo hunt , original 1876  Winchester  45-60 caliber. Though I've never preferred hollow point boolets, this cast of 40-1 shoots the best in the old Winchester, and I guess I can't complain about the performance. Boolet recovered in the hide on the off side,  broke through ribs entering and exiting, really excellent in putting her down. She only went maybe ten feet , of course shot placement is critical, but it was good to see.  Shot was at a little over 90 yards and she was moving a bit.
 Boolet is cast at .460,  and weighs just shy of 360 grains, 60 grains of Olde Eynesford 2ff, .2" compression,  and thin card wad,  she'll keep 'em all on a playing card at 100 yards if I hold steady enough.
 Deer hunting starts in a couple weeks, I'll be toting the ole' 76. ;)
 Good luck hunting all,
 Big Goose
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on October 26, 2018, 06:39:17 pm
Big Goose
Thanks for posting . It don't get much better than a Buffalo with a 76 . Hope you have a Great Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on December 03, 2018, 07:07:58 pm
Howdy
Well Rifle season is over . The 73 dispatched another Buck .Nice Deer will  make lots of jerky this winter . I have a problem posting pictures same camera same everything but no luck . Hope everyone had a safe and successful Deer season .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 11, 2019, 07:21:54 pm
Howdy
Here is the 2018 Buck
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on January 27, 2019, 12:36:57 pm
Howdy
Big Goose I would love to have your Buffalo pictures and story on the 76 site also . Who knows you might inspire someone to use there 76 on a Hunting adventure . Life is short and adventures are to few . Thanks again for posting .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 10, 2019, 10:32:05 am
Howdy
I started planting oak trees on the Farm a couple years ago . When the rest of the farming world is at war with trees . So I plan on planting oaks to start with . I have planted trees from moss oak nurseries . I have also collected acorns from the woods . I have the acorns in the frig in a bag of potting soil . This spring will get them out and plant them in pots and then late in the fall will move to the woods . Wish I would of started this 20 years ago .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: bear tooth billy on February 10, 2019, 03:19:54 pm
When I was bow hunting about 20 years ago, I noticed some white oak acorns that were
sprouting, I put them inside over the winter and planted them in the spring. They are now
about 12" diameter and 30' tall. They will be mighty oaks long after I'm gone.

            BTB
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 11, 2019, 06:55:39 pm
BTB
Those Deer  love you for planting those White Oaks . And the Turkeys like those acorns too . I have always loved to Hunt , just figured that would be a good thing for Future Hunters . Hope some day my grandson's will sit under these Tree's while on a Vintage Deer Hunt . Hope they use my 73 and my 76  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on February 17, 2019, 02:04:24 pm
HOWDY
Well Turkey season will be here before you know it . I love hunting and eating them , don't know which I like the best ? They are excellent eating . Our season opens in April and ends in May . I guess I better start practicing my calling , love to call them in close and then smoke them with my 12 gauge .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on March 30, 2019, 11:22:15 am
Howdy
Glad to see the site back up . Here is a picture of a turkey I killed a couple years ago .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on April 14, 2019, 02:00:22 pm
Howdy
Season opened with lots of birds on the move .Watched 3 Toms with a large group of Hens . They put on a first class show trying to out strut the other . Now when the Tom's are with the Hens you can't call them away . So never fired a shot maybe next time .
Title: Re: Vintage Hunting and NCOWS
Post by: Rowdy Fulcher on May 13, 2019, 08:09:41 pm
Howdy
Well season is over and no Gobbler this Spring . Mother Nature was at her worst . So maybe the fall season will work out ? Hope everyone had a safe and productive season .