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Title: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: RWK on November 18, 2012, 09:55:52 AM
1851 Navy Colt



I just passed on an 1851 Navy Colt made by Armi San Paolo

It came with a locking wood case, powder flask, boolit mold a few balls and caps.

It also had an extra case harden trigger for some reason

The gun looked good, good bore but had some rust in the cylinder near the nipple holes

Wood case exterior was good but when you removed the gun from the case it was frayed

Powder flask had powder in it.

He wanted 300.00 for it. I offered him 200.00 he said he take 250.00

Case and accessories 100.00 and 100.00 for the 1851. I was only comfortable at the 200.00

The Gun maker is out of business. Any info on maker would be a help

Thanks
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: Major 2 on November 18, 2012, 10:22:07 AM


".... The Gun maker is out of business. Any info on maker would be a help.

Armi San Paolo was the early name for Euroarms...
Pedersoli aquired Euroarms a few years ago.

If it a Steel Frame in good shape with case accessories $250 not out of line...
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: RWK on November 18, 2012, 10:41:07 AM
"If it a Steel Frame in good shape with case accessories $250 not out of line.."

Steel frame Brass trigger and grip.


So if one would like a conversion cylinder is it available?


thanks
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: Flint on November 18, 2012, 03:08:41 PM
A few pictures, I will post more when I solve Photobucket's problems, hardly anything works with their new format.

Long and short with R&D conversion.  7-1/2 inch has a modified Remington front sight, short is hand made sight.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/rcflint/Guns/TWOGUNSLOW.jpg)

Install a 72 Uberti ejector  on a 51.

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/rcflint/Guns/removed.jpg)
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: RickB on November 19, 2012, 09:23:35 PM
Maybe you guys could give me some info on my 51 Navy. I bought it new when I was 16 years old. That was in 1976. It was supposed to be a bicentennial model. I bought it from a store called Woolco. It was a Target or K-mart type store that was supposed to be an off branch of Woolworth. Not totally sure on that.
Anyway, the gun does have some engraving in it. Probably not a great example but it is kinda nice. The SN on the gun is 7601. Supposedly 76 being for the bicentennial and 01 for the first made. Not totally sure about that though.
It was imported by FIE from what I see on the underside of the grip frame. If memory serves me I believe I paid $75.00 for it.

I've put hundreds if not thousands of rounds through it. It's a good shooter.

The other gun in the picture is a Pietta (sp?) also in .36 cal. I paid under $200 for it a while back, but I've not had the chance to shoot it yet. It's completely unfired so far.

I've included a close up of the Navy to show some of the etching on it.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I was pretty young when I bought it and the documentation that came with it was lost a long time ago. If I remember it really didn't have much to start with.
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: Pettifogger on November 20, 2012, 01:28:36 AM
I've got an old brass frame FIE just like yours without the engraving.  It's still worth $75.00.  Unfortunately, $75.00 now is a lot less than $75.00 in 1976.
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: RickB on November 20, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
I didn't think it would be worth much. It's a really good shooter though. Was FIE the company that made these or were they just the importers?
Title: Re: 1851 Navy Colt
Post by: Fingers McGee on November 20, 2012, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: RickB on November 20, 2012, 11:29:20 AM
I didn't think it would be worth much. It's a really good shooter though. Was FIE the company that made these or were they just the importers?

FIE (or Firearms Importers & Exporters) was an importer in Florida back in the 70s and 80s.  From the markings on your brass framed model (the AA on the side of the frame) yours was made in 1975.  There might be some other markings like PR, GBL, COM, Mofra, ASM or two linked diamonds that would indicate the actual manufacturer.  None of those companies exist today though.  Some morphed into Pietta, Uberti or Euroarms.