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Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« on: March 04, 2013, 11:34:04 PM »
Hi

I'm looking at buying a 12 gauge coach gun for SASS and NCOWS.  I have a serious problem wearing the shot shell belt above the pistol belt, it looks like something NOBODY would wear on a horse or in the yard.  I see that Dave Carrico carries shot shell Mills belts.  Could / would a scout type wear one of the belts as a bandoleer, i.e. over one shoulder?  I'll need the cartridge belt for .45 LC ammunition.  I guess another alternative would be to just carry it in the vest pockets.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 12:01:17 AM »
1961MJS

They do make Mills belts with combination shotgun and bullet loops.  I carry mine in a Dyer Pouch and find that works for me.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 12:55:26 AM »
The bandoleer was one of the most popular ways of carrying Cartridges of all stripes.
Outside the Shotshell pouch you could do as some of us have done & have Shotshell Loops on your Second Pistole Belt & cross them over each other.
Wearing a belt above a belt was started by "Gamesters" to give themselves an advantage w/o breaking the rules untill they started wearing them like a Bra. Hence the No wearing them above the Naval Rule.

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I'm looking at buying a 12 gauge coach gun for SASS and NCOWS.  I have a serious problem wearing the shot shell belt above the pistol belt, it looks like something NOBODY would wear on a horse or in the yard.  I see that Dave Carrico carries shot shell Mills belts.  Could / would a scout type wear one of the belts as a bandoleer, i.e. over one shoulder?  I'll need the cartridge belt for .45 LC ammunition.  I guess another alternative would be to just carry it in the vest pockets.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 08:10:55 AM »
I like the bandoleer approach myself, on the rare occasions I shoot SASS these days.  My favorite is to use a US Cavalry M1912 pocket bandoleer, with 2 shells per pocket.  Worn over the right shoulder it presents the shells perfectly to my left hand, while the relativly narrow strap does not interfere with the shotgun butt.  (Rossi hammer double)

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 08:27:46 AM »
Hi

I've got a line on a Remington Spartan that's only got a hundred or so rounds through it for $500.00.  The guy bought all of the stuff to shoot CAS, but then worked out that finding cowboy clothing when you're effectively Santa Claus is difficult.  He pretty much quit right away.  I don't believe that I'm taking a beating at that price.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 10:48:10 AM »
Depending on how many shotshells you want to pack around at any one time, you could also opt for a M1874 Dyer Pouch. That will handle about six to eight 12ga shotshells.
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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 02:07:49 PM »
Hi again

I haven't shot side by sides much.  Does a right handed shooter move the shells with the left or right hand?  Do side by sides usually drop open when you move the lever?  If so, I'd guess the left hand.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2013, 03:23:41 PM »
Most side by side shooters unlatch the barrels and holding the fore piece drop the butt of the gun then thrust the muzzle froward slideing the spent shells out then bring the butt up horizantal which lowers the barrel load the shells with the right hand and close the shotgun and cock the hammers. I hope this does not confuse you but helps to see how to load.

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 01:14:49 PM »
The sass wire forum has a video on shotgun reloads..  Here is direct link to video

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2013, 04:36:36 PM »
my good netizens -

Whilst I neither shoot SASS "a lot" nor do I even consider myself "competitive" , I have found that I can cram what few shotshells I need into my vest pockets - I can easily put 4 12 ga shells in each pocket, and am considering a purpose-built vest that will hold 5 in each lower pocket and five more in the "left breast" pocket. I sincerely hope 15 shotshells should cover it!

Also bear in mind that with my outfit I use a C&B style gunbelt ....
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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 11:00:07 AM »
Since shotguns were not issued to US forces until the Great War, I usually carry mine In Mills type web belt worn as a bandolier, or in a small haversack.  Neither is great for speed.   ;D

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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 11:19:00 AM »
For those who have the movie THE WILD BUNCH etched indelibly in their minds eye, does that flic provide any clues how that bunch of Hollyweird  miscreants carried their shottie fodder?
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Re: Indian War Shotgun Shell Carriage
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 12:45:34 PM »
The bandoleer was one of the most popular ways of carrying Cartridges of all stripes.
Outside the Shotshell pouch you could do as some of us have done & have Shotshell Loops on your Second Pistole Belt & cross them over each other.
Wearing a belt above a belt was started by "Gamesters" to give themselves an advantage w/o breaking the rules untill they started wearing them like a Bra. Hence the No wearing them above the Naval Rule.


Hi

I was re-reading this and saw the below the navel rule.  I gotta loose the gut, after lunch I could set a box of shells on top of my gut, but I couldn't run and have it stay there.  I think I'll use the vest approach.

Later

 

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