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The Barracks / Re: GAF, sort of.. US Army Model of 1917 S&W .45ACP
« Last post by Drydock on Today at 03:05:38 PM »
The New Service was introduced in 1898, and thus is a GAF legal sidearm when paired with an appropriate rifle. Use Auto rim brass for the Victorian match.  Clips ok for era of expansion.
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CAS City Classifieds / SAA Holsters for Sale.
« Last post by BrushyCreekDouglas on Today at 02:26:25 PM »
Hey folks!

I’ve always been partial to authentic holsters and decided I’d start making my own. After scouring over original holsters and art from the period I’ve made a few designs that I’d like to offer to y’all.

#1 - The Suspender Holster (this is one of, if not the original appendix carry rig. Designed for the SAA this holster attaches to your trouser buttons via front flaps and through the suspender strap itself by the ring atop the holster. A very practical holster if you prefer to wear suspenders and concealed carry your sixgun in a period correct holster. $90

#2 The Patton and Co - this holster is patterned off one made by Patton and Co in Tombstone, Arizona around 1885. Designed to cover most of the gun to protect it from the elements. $85

#3 The Scout -patterned after the holster seen in the 1890 painting by Frederic Remington titled “Lt. SC Roberton: Chief of Crow Scouts. A very basic , no nonsense double loop. $75


These holsters are made from 6-7oz Hermann Oak, relatively thin leather by todays standards but fairly common among original 19th century holsters I’ve examined. All are hand stitched with high quality natural linen thread waxed with coad (shoemakers wax). Left natural color and oiled with Olive Oil.

To order just shoot me a message! All can be made to fit 4 3/4”, 5 1/2” and 7 1/2” SAAs. No other handgun patterns available at this time.

Thanks folks and God bless!

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Major
That  Colt .45 is exactly like the one I had.  Like I said it weighed a ton and I think it had about a five pound trigger  pull.  But then it miiiight beee my undeveloped little muscles.

The comments about forts being on the ground vs in the trees (we called them "Tree forts") reminded me of one of our forts that was under ground!  It's a long story so I need to work on condensing it.
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NCOWS / Re: win $100
« Last post by River City John on Today at 01:34:29 PM »
Whatever
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NCOWS / Re: win $100
« Last post by Tascosa Joe on Today at 01:04:50 PM »
Hi???
I haven't received mine yet.
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The Barracks / GAF, sort of.. US Army Model of 1917 S&W .45ACP
« Last post by Tuolumne Lawman on Today at 01:04:00 PM »
Still working part time at a local gun shop and a decent S&W 1917 .45 ACP came in.  Original, except missing lanyard ring (though a friend has an original for me).  The finish is 50% is or better, and the timing is dead nuts on. Probably not shot much as the bore is bright and rifling is crisp.

It has the US property markings on the bottom of the grip frame, and it has the smooth walnut grips, one of which has a well worn WW2 Civil Defense emblem on it.  That is intriguing, as 1917s were drawn from storage to be re-issued, especially at home, in WW II.

I'll post pics of it the next time I go to work, though I did take a picture of the grip with the  the Civil Defense logo when I had the grip off,  as I have the revolver stripped down and giving it a thorough cleaning.



I did some research.  During WW2, some US Police Departments had Civil Defense Auxiliary Police. (see attached badges). This was because of concerns about saboteurs and sabotage.  Possibly this revolver might have been used by one of these department's CD auxiliary police.














I have read somewhere that during WW II, some 1917s were issued to Defense plant guards, as well a CONUS Military Police.  I think it is a reasonable assumption that they were also issued to the CD Auxiliary Police.  The Federal Government would issue what was available in stores, leaving production for front line weapons.

This from an article that cited Ian Hogg and Bruce Canfield:

"...most of the revolvers were re-issued to stateside security forces and military policemen, but 20,993 of them were issued overseas to "specialty troops such as tankers and artillery personnel" throughout the course of U.S. involvement in lWorld War II." 

I would think the Civil Defense Auxiliary Police would be included in those security forces.

 This makes me fairly certain that this was my 1917's last duty assignment.

Here's the pistol: 

Note that the grip is slightly smaller grip.  I went to work today and stuck the grips back on. I did not notice before that the CD grip Is slightly undersized. It is not as small as a 38 Victory model because I checked it against the right side panel of a couple Victory models grips. Seems to be half way in between the two. The left side grip with a rack number fits perfectly. Pics to come.   

It seems probably that the grip is a replacement at some point. Whether is was done at arsenal, arms room, or user, is impossible to say. I bought the gun, though, not the story!  It is still a cool piece of history.



Bottom and serial number:



Barrel Markings



The other left hand panel with rack number:  Better fit:



It will be a shooter, but I am making an nice grouping around it.  I already load .45 ACP for my 1911A1, and I have full and half moon clips,    Here's pics of the 1909 holster for the 1917  I got.  It is missing the plug in the end (at least IIRC, the 1909 has a plug), but it is actually pretty decent for $90.  It will go well with the original 1912 Mills belt I got.  Someday, I'll replace the repop lanyard and ammo pouch I also have, with originals.











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NCOWS / win $100
« Last post by bear tooth billy on Today at 01:00:23 PM »
I got my copy of the Shootist today, so the contest starts today and the winner
will be drawn on Sept 18th. All you have to do is log in and say Hi or whatever.
You must be a current NCOWS member to win. Let's get this forum active!!!!


              Your Marshall Bear Tooth Billy
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USFA CSS / Re: Superb Henry Nettleton
« Last post by Buckaroo Lou on Today at 11:23:33 AM »
May be a silly question, but why is it some of the case colored frames have a very blue tint like this gun and others are much more subdued?

My guess would be that some have been exposed to light more than others. Those that live in a safe most of their life will remain color vibrant the longest and those out in the open exposed to light and cleaning will fade the fastest. This pertains to the guns that have true bone and charcoal case hardening. This has been my experience anyway. Also some have been clear coated to keep the case coloring brilliant but it too will wear off the more the firearm is handled.
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The Longbranch / Re: Something a little different or Gun-a-holic Part II
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 10:50:47 AM »
Rev ...some did, and some did not have the gold wash cylinder.

just for an FYI the guns NIB as shown un-played with, command some big $$$ recently $350 and up has been bid and paid.
A run of the mill gun, played with will get $100 +

A Mattel Shoot'n' six (circa 1958  just after the Fanner 50's of 1957) will bring the same kinda $$$.

Nastaja from our childhood is pricy  :) 
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John is an A-1 cowboy and gun dealer! I've dealt with him in the past several times. He's honest and fair! 8)
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