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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2023, 06:56:44 AM »

 :) Drydock  ;)

Entirely too true.  Fecal Matter is known to Propagate.  Murphy says things WILL go wrong and at the worst possible time.  Also completely true.

That little rubber baby buggy bumper in the end of the Henry follower actually does nada to affect momentum.  Physics is Physics.  The impact of the follower has the same Jules of energy regardless of the little rubber bumper.  Atz why, rather than relying on the little bumper, I used Stick, Mark 1, A1 on top of the cartridge stack.  Only allowed the follower to move half an inch.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2023, 07:34:12 AM »
I'll point out one of my Henry's (2008 CC) had the orange rubber baby buggy bumper.
 My earlier 99 [BM] date code did not.

The orange rubber was hard, more like plastic and it was somewhat disintegrated,
I don't know if cleaning solvents changed the properties of the material or if it was simply hard material to begin with.
In my opinion the (RBBB) Rubber Baby Bumper is a false safety accessory, maybe added to appease the corporate lawyers.
The best safety loading procedure with the Henry is the slight angle slide in load approach, and a hand covering the follower and eased down gently.

DO NOT drop load from a vertical hold, I see that done on many u-Tube videos  :o
I'll ad the problem is less apparent "if" you fully load the magazine.
loading less that a full magazine allows the follower a longer distance to strike the rounds and build kinetic energy. That is where the A1 stick spacer Coffinmaker mentions' would be handy.
when planets align...do the deal !

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2023, 11:38:47 AM »
Had to go look.  My 1996 Brass frame Military Henry does not have the rubber insert.  Good. 

2 rules of the Henry: Always load horizontal.  Always control the follower.
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2023, 08:39:12 AM »

Rule number 3 - Get a picture of Coffinmakers  "Stick, Mark 1, A1, and copy it.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2023, 12:46:31 PM »
My little orange bumper has kind of disintegrated. I was wondering if they have replacements and i haven't really looked into taking that part of my gun apart yet.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2023, 01:06:04 PM »
I took mine out, its useless anyway.
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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2023, 04:52:13 PM »
Well heck then i can do that. ;)

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2023, 04:55:26 PM »
Can't use the Stick, Henry-Mark 1{Mod 1}, I need full capacity for GAF usage. 
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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2023, 07:06:08 PM »
Full capacity will be much better, the short travel of the follower can't build the energy.
  Its the long snap of a partial magazine load that is the problem.
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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2023, 05:17:54 PM »
I’m going to copy coffinmakers stick… once my 1860 conversion is ready to go

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2023, 09:46:09 AM »

 :) Frisco  ;)

If need be, lemmie know and I'll send ya a Tintype of "Stick, Mark 1, A1" via your e mail.  I have never been able to successfully post here on CAS City.  I do have a trusted ally who has been gracious enough to post for me in the past though.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2023, 08:04:23 AM »
I've personally seen 3 different Magazine Detonations. Two were Henry rifles and one was an 1866.

I'd like to hear more about that '66, please.
Karl

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2023, 09:15:17 AM »

 :) KWK  ;)

Happy to oblige.  The '66 in question was a Uberti (naturally) Sporting Rifle in 38 special.  The Happy owner/shooter was utilizing IIRC, factory loaded, round nose Plus P 38s.  About half way thru the second stage, there was a nasty KABAM and ventilation suddenly appeared in the magazine tube just beyond the fore arm.

When we took it apart, we discovered Three rounds had detonated.  It is unknown if it was the result of a stuck follower suddenly releasing or from recoil.  There was no damage to the action parts or frame and I took the rifle in for repair.  I also had a somewhat spirited conversation with the owner about round nose bullets in tubular rifle magazines.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2023, 11:40:03 AM »
:) KWK  ;)

Happy to oblige.  The '66 in question was a Uberti (naturally) Sporting Rifle in 38 special.  The Happy owner/shooter was utilizing IIRC, factory loaded, round nose Plus P 38s.  About half way thru the second stage, there was a nasty KABAM and ventilation suddenly appeared in the magazine tube just beyond the fore arm.

When we took it apart, we discovered Three rounds had detonated.  It is unknown if it was the result of a stuck follower suddenly releasing or from recoil.  There was no damage to the action parts or frame and I took the rifle in for repair.  I also had a somewhat spirited conversation with the owner about round nose bullets in tubular rifle magazines.
I think I'd have also had a conversation with the owner about using +P ammo.  I didn't even know any manufacturers made +P .38's with lead bullets.

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Re: Henry Kaboom!
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2023, 02:43:27 PM »
I think I'd have also had a conversation with the owner about using +P ammo.

SAAMI +P 38s may not be a problem. Italy uses CIP pressure standards and will proof to that. For the 38, CIP pressures are above SAAMI +P.
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