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WTB: revolver for GAF
« on: July 16, 2023, 09:07:18 AM »
Before I yield to impulse on Gunbroker, I figured I'd check here.  The change jar is full and I'm once again looking for a revolver for GAF/NCOWS.  (Civilian impression for GAF, so I have some wiggle-room on caliber.)  Do any GAF members personally have for sale/trade an Uberti or Centaure 1860 Army (or shootable/restorable original), or a 38 caliber or larger blackpowder-framed SAA clone (or shootable/restorable original)?  If so, maybe we can work something out, cash or trade.

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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2023, 03:28:42 PM »
 I have a 44 cal 1860 made by Pietta. Has been tuned and the factory nipples replaced with TRESO nipples. Gun is set up to use Remington #10 or CCI #11 caps. Few scratches and dings but a good reliable shooter.

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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2023, 03:34:37 PM »

In the cartridge gun category I have three 1872 Ubertis in 38 Special. $550 shipped for one or a pair for $1000 shipped. 


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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2023, 03:35:22 PM »
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2023, 03:35:58 PM »
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2023, 10:59:14 PM »
Thanks, but I'm really not interested in a Pietta, or in open tops.
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2023, 08:14:59 AM »

An 1860 Cenature is an open top.
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2023, 08:55:28 PM »
Too bad I am located on the "wrong" side of the Medicine Line, since I have reached a point where I must make serious efforts to "thin the herd" and have one revolver which might form the basis of an imaginitive GAF civilian persona - a Model 1873 SAA Uberti (5.5" barrel. .45 Colt, BP frame) which I cased in the Colt London Agency style years ago -



For what it may be worth, here is a photo of a similar original London Agency cased SAA -

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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2023, 05:55:41 PM »
The Medicine Line, like la Frontera, is a state of mind--and I can be pretty mindless at times.  (Wait, are you still an officer of the Court?  Forget I said that!) 

That is a nice looking set!  Hearing that you'll be thinning the herd is a sad thought; from what I recall of our discussions you have some interesting pieces in your collection.  For some of them, it might be worth the effort to export them to the US if cooperating dealers could be found.  I know of a couple of guys who've developed nice collections buying in the UK and importing from there, but I don't know how it would work from Canada. 

Did a little horse-trading today trying to get my hands on an original 1860 franken-shooter: shot the guy an offer, waiting to hear back. 
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2023, 05:21:11 PM »
My latest sidearm is a bit too late for use in the GAF and doesn't have the custom serial number befitting a GO.  ;)
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2023, 08:04:30 PM »
How about a Colt New Service in .455 Webley?
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2023, 11:11:33 AM »
How about a Colt New Service in .455 Webley?

Like this early example, with Canadian Dept. of Militia & Defence ownership markings, sold to the governmen’s purchading agent in 1900. Still would be suirable for a civilian persona, because men returning from Boer War service wre permitted to purchase rifles and revolvers issued to them.

Rattlesnake Jack Robson, Scout, Rocky Mountain Rangers, North West Canada, 1885
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2023, 11:54:43 AM »
How about a Colt New Service in .455 Webley?

I'd be all over that
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2023, 07:25:17 PM »
Go for it Major!  I'm not a Colt DA fan.  Nice designs, but from a time when the expectation was that most shooting would be single-action.  I shoot my DAs double-action, and a lot. 

Used like that, replacing or refitting parts is normal maintenance . . . and new parts just aren't available.  Uberti's 1860s and SAAs hold up well to shooting, and I already have a stash of parts.  I just ordered an 1860, which will at least let me enter the postal matches. 

I've never liked the conversions or 1872(?) Opentops.  Part of it is a historical lack of use in my home stomping grounds.  As a kid I practically tripped over percussion guns that saw use into the 19-teens.  Those few folk around here who wanted a holster pistol that used metallic cartridges seemed to have gone with Colt SAAs or Smith & Wessons.  After the War to End All Wars, cartridge pistols were everywhere--but most of them were either S&Ws or they had more in common with Pitspitr's newest than with a good honest revolver. 
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2023, 08:16:41 PM »
Well, based on your time frame and preferences, hard to beat a good 'ol Cavalry model.  The Cimarron Uberti old model (BP frame) guns still have the original style hammer with no safety and 4 clicks.  Of course, the Piettas are 4 click but their Cavalry model doesn't have all the markings, if that matters to you.  No, this one is not for sale!  :)

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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2023, 01:15:51 PM »
Possibly a Smith & Wesson .44DA Frontier would meet your pre-1900 aspects. This one has proved up at Fort Jerry's Grand Muster a time or two.
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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2023, 08:24:31 PM »
If I have to, I'll break down and buy a Cavalry or Artillery model--but only if I can see it in hand before purchase, or trust the seller (hence my WTB post here, made after I had to return yet another Cimarron-allegedly-made-by-Uberti-but-OOPS!-it-is-Pietta Cavalry model).  Finally got a refund on the money, nothing for the time and opportunity lost.  The Uberti 1860 did arrive, and looks OK.  I'll get that foul-smelling oil off it, then start the tune-up and get it shooting in time for the September postal match.  I'll eventually need to find or replace my Johnson and Dow mould so I can do paper cartridges. 

Johnson Barr, I don't have much time on the trigger of the period S&Ws.  How do they hold up to shooting, say a couple thousand rounds a year of BP loads duplicating factory ballistics?  It looks like parts are made of unobtainium, so I'd prefer to avoid needing them. 





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Re: WTB: revolver for GAF
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2023, 01:46:41 PM »
 I can't possibly tell you how well original 19th S&W revolvers hold up. My shooters are 147 years (my oldest) to 120 or so years along in their collective lives. Pistols are a lot like women; if you don't beat them up, they will last a whole lot longer. I hand load for my 'girls' and since factory loads haven't existed in longer than I've been alive, I load for accuracy of the original nonadjustable sights. Original, as well as, sights on replica revolvers tend to shoot notoriously high at normal competition distances.  If you plan to shoot for score original factory ballistics will let you down. Consistent tight groups with iron sights always comes down to bullet weight and powder type and charge. I don't do as well shooting Double Action as I once could. But then occasionally the Carpel Tunnel and degenerative Arthritis in my hands subsides long enough to shoot acceptably.   
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