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« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2020, 09:39:02 AM »
The officers carried pistols and swords while the bayonet is the common riflemans sword. There is certainly a cruel elegance to the long bayonet mounted on a rifle. It just looks more lethal than a short one does.
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« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2020, 11:17:43 AM »
My understanding is in the open the advantage was with guy that had the reach in a bayonet duel.

Mausers Gewehr 98 OAL with its short bayonet matched the longer 05 & 07 US on the M17 & 03's
The Japanese Arakaki with its bayonet had a greater reach....

Trench warfare change some thinking in the longer stickers



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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2020, 01:10:14 AM »
The metal on both the SMLE rifle and bayonetare exceptional! has it ever been used, or am I just blind?

Trench warfare change some thinking in the longer stickers

Yeah... pump shotguns and .45 automatics kinda changed the rules, nicht wahr?

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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2020, 09:29:25 AM »

But Perfesser,

Let us not forget the effectiveness of a concentrated Bayonet Charge against .... (gasp) MACHINE GUNS !!!!

Big long pointy thing is hard to maneuver inna Trench.  Some snug is.  Practical may not be.

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« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2020, 10:53:26 AM »
There?s a scene where the Brits are attacking the bridge at Remagen in A Bridge Too Far and the officer blows his whistle to start the assault. One of the defending german soldiers asks what that was and his officer replies ?fools courage?. Hanging a bayonet on your rifle and running towards Maxim guns, same thing.
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« Reply #85 on: January 14, 2020, 01:01:33 PM »
A favourite tool of WWI Canadian Shock Troops for trench raids was a spade with a sharpened edge.

In the movie "The Light Horse" you see Australian Mounted Infantry using their long Lee-Enfield bayonets as swords.


The metal on both the SMLE rifle and bayonetare exceptional! has it ever been used, or am I just blind?

Yeah... pump shotguns and .45 automatics kinda changed the rules, nicht wahr?

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Re: gunoholic
« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2020, 11:22:11 AM »
A favourite tool of WWI Canadian Shock Troops for trench raids was a spade with a sharpened edge.

In the movie "The Light Horse" you see Australian Mounted Infantry using their long Lee-Enfield bayonets as swords.

"Light Horse" were mounted infantry. Armed with rifles, not carbines, and no sword. The real attack the movie portrays was a tactical opportunity too good to miss. They drew their bayonets and charged. BTW; there is a photo of the charge, but it MIGHT HAVE BEEN a recreation done later when it was realized what a momentous event had just occurred.

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« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2020, 11:29:21 AM »
The SMLE (Short Model Lee-Enfield or the more colloquial "Smellie") replaced all carbines in the British Army upon it's adoption. It was deemed sufficiently short enough for mounted use.

The Smellie was likely one of the best, if not the best bolt action military rifle ever. The Mauser '98 a close second but for it's 5 rd magazine capacity.
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« Reply #88 on: January 15, 2020, 11:32:16 AM »
The Lighthorsemen charge at Beersheba still gives me goosebumps, an amazing piece of film footage.
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« Reply #89 on: January 15, 2020, 11:51:08 AM »
If I recall, the men and horses were on their last legs due to water deprivation.

Had the attack failed, the surviving horses would likely have been put down.
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« Reply #90 on: January 15, 2020, 12:39:23 PM »
That was the punchline to the attack, succeed and save the wells or die. A man can do a lot when his back is against the wall. Also the belief by the Turks that the Lighthorse would at some point dismount and fight as infantry so they were not prepared for the cavalry charge. But this is probably Hollywood bs. Makes for a good story though and very exciting film footage.
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« Reply #91 on: January 15, 2020, 08:26:24 PM »
I thought it was Short Magazine Lee Enfield  ??? ???
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« Reply #92 on: January 15, 2020, 09:06:31 PM »
I thought it was Short Magazine Lee Enfield  ??? ???


It is ....  it does not mean short magazine ....   Short, Magazine lee Enfield   as the earlier rifle was a long Lee or MLE 
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« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2020, 10:35:58 AM »
The correct nomenclature is: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk. I. Thereafter there were several Mks, culminating with the Mk. VI.

The most common Mk. used in WWI was the SMLE, Mk III* which eliminated the long range dial sights and and the magazine cut-off.

The so-called Long Lee-Enfield was officially: the Lee-Enfield Magazine Rifle, Mk I, culminating with the Mk. I*.
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« Reply #94 on: January 17, 2020, 03:38:47 PM »

 :o  I'm The Coffinmaker and I'm a Gunoholic   ::)

Saw a YouBoob piece today.  Showed Pietta showing off their Replica 1878 Hammer Double  Shotgun.

Looks like I'm gonna be destitute REAL soon   ;D

I'll be able to shoot for two months and not use the same shotgun twice!!!  Wheeeeeeeeeee (hiccup)

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« Reply #95 on: January 17, 2020, 07:03:15 PM »
you Boob ?  I did not find that video

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« Reply #96 on: January 17, 2020, 09:00:33 PM »
I think that this is it.  Fast forward (or watch) to 38:30 for the coach gun.  Am I right, Coffinmaker?



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« Reply #97 on: January 18, 2020, 09:59:39 AM »

Yep, Monsieur Griff.

Dat be da one.

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« Reply #98 on: January 18, 2020, 11:38:32 AM »
YES! I did something right! (Make note of the date.) ;D

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« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2020, 08:46:44 PM »

 "Fell off the wagon again "  I guess   

I added a Wehrmacht marked captured 1944 Mauser (BYF)  P38
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