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Title: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 22, 2015, 12:16:51 AM
Yesterday I picked up this Centennial Trade Mark "1960 New Model Army."
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 22, 2015, 12:25:49 AM
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Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 22, 2015, 12:38:05 AM

The bore actually looks better than this. I was having difficulty getting a picture that would show the lands and grooves without being glared out.





It has a bit of a lockup and timing issue but after reading Pettifogger's articles, I am confident that they can be sorted out.

I am very happy with it considering I got it out the door for $83.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Major 2 on December 22, 2015, 01:52:22 AM
Froc's will be chiming in ... @ $83 you are in  :o  SCREAMING deal area !

Very nice  :)

http://www.1960nma.org/
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Long Johns Wolf on December 22, 2015, 04:09:48 AM
My congrats on this nice, rare Centaure from ca. 1970, JWS. She is a
# Regular New Model Army (RNMA): 8" barrel, 3-screw frame, recoil shield cut for stock, S/N without prefix
# 3rd Variation: Ormsby naval engagement scene roll-engraved on the cylinder with legend ENGAGED 16 MAY 1843, traditional finish, variant was sold in America North of the Rio Grande only, but not in Europe
# 3rd Sub-Variation: most feature the legend CENTENNIAL between the cylinder scene's ends (which this one does not seem to have: only very few of such specimens are known), walking Centaure logo on the frame, no notch for the attachment of a stock on the butt.
Back in the days these pistols were imported by Centennial Arms Corp. of Lincolnwood, IL.
The cylinder scene was not applied at the Blegian factory but at the Centennial Arms Corp. shop.
At $ 83.00 steal. The first one I see in the USA in months!
Enjoy shooting her.
Long Johns Wolf aka FROCS #2
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: LonesomePigeon on December 22, 2015, 10:29:15 AM
Congratulations.

PS pictures aren't showing for me.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Pettifogger on December 22, 2015, 12:18:52 PM
All I see are a bunch of question marks.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Abilene on December 22, 2015, 01:06:03 PM
The pics were there when I first looked at it this morning, but not this afternoon.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Blair on December 22, 2015, 01:15:54 PM
Photos are still there for me too.
I have trouble getting some of the videos to play for me. ???
My best,
 Blair
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 22, 2015, 03:06:54 PM
So, some folks can see the pics and others can't?

Odd.

Suggestions?
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Major 2 on December 22, 2015, 03:58:54 PM
I see them.... looks good
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Kent Shootwell on December 22, 2015, 04:46:51 PM
No pics for me either. Must be because he's from Oregon " woun't nothin grow in Orygone!"
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: The Pathfinder on December 22, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Must be affectin' the Ohio Territory too then, I could see them this morning, but now can't. Weird. ???

Altho',  J.W., I thought I did good buying a consecutive pair for $440 total, but you just blew me out of the water. $83, where do you shop, man? :o
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lefty Dude on December 22, 2015, 06:48:43 PM
I paid $50.00 for mine, unfired and like new. Yep; $ 83.00 is a very good price.

All I get is Blank, no Pics.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Coffinmaker on December 22, 2015, 07:42:45 PM
No Pictures.  Obviously, this thread doesn't exist.  ;D

Coffinmaker
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: 45 Dragoon on December 22, 2015, 09:29:04 PM
What thread?

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @ goonsgunworks


Merry Christmas everybody!!
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 22, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Maybe this will work for everyone..

And I'm not from Oregon  :)
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on December 22, 2015, 10:20:24 PM
Yes!  Whatever you did worked for me.   Now I can see your steal of a gun.  Very nice!

CC Griff
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: 45 Dragoon on December 22, 2015, 11:18:10 PM
OK, its officially a thread!! Lol.  (I see um too!!)

Looks nice! It definitely has a timing issue though. The screws could use some sprucing up as well.  Those are all fixable, I'd buy um all day for that price !! Congratulations!!

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com
Follow me on Instagram @  goonsgunworks
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lucky R. K. on December 23, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
If this works a picture of my Cenature is shown below.  I got a really good deal on it. My wife's cousin gave it to me years ago. He bought it with the shoulder stock at a yard sale.  I have done the Pettifogger tune up tips to it and it does shoot well.

Lucky

http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l361/decapper/F144_zps798bdd33.jpg
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Coffinmaker on December 23, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
Good Grief.  Yep.  Pictures worked.  $83??  Another one ..... with the Shoulder Stock at a YARD SALE???!!

I think I'm DEPRESSED  :o

Coffinmaker
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lefty Dude on December 23, 2015, 10:53:17 PM
Because they carry a Belgium proof house Smokeless proofed stamp, they make one Hell of a Conversion candidate. Much better than any Pietta or Uberti made.

Mine carries a 45 S&W cylinder. With a tight bore they are very accurate. My bore slugs out at .449". Conversion cylinder throats are .450".
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Long Johns Wolf on December 24, 2015, 03:43:57 AM
As Lefty Dudes says: THE ideal base C&B revolver for a conversion.
I am shooting 98 % smokeless under 200 grainers in .44 Colt cal. (inside lubed) through my Centaure conversions.
Long Johns Wolf
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 28, 2015, 12:05:37 PM
Because they carry a Belgium proof house Smokeless proofed stamp, they make one Hell of a Conversion candidate. Much better than any Pietta or Uberti made.

Mine carries a 45 S&W cylinder. With a tight bore they are very accurate. My bore slugs out at .449". Conversion cylinder throats are .450".
What kind of conversion lefty?
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 28, 2015, 12:09:36 PM
I have your pistols brother in the shop right now. It has timing issues and a loose arbor. Serial number 9187 and is EXACTLY the same in all respects to yours. I should be done with it tomorrow to ship back to it's owner (unless he wants me to restore the screw heads and reblue them).
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on December 28, 2015, 12:12:00 PM
I just noticed that the sight on this pistol here has a more SAA like profile to it than yours does.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: J.W. Sinclair on December 31, 2015, 02:07:03 AM
I have your pistols brother in the shop right now. It has timing issues and a loose arbor.

I might be having email you to talk about fixing up my pistol.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lefty Dude on December 31, 2015, 10:50:32 AM
What kind of conversion lefty?

Yours of course, Pard. The Thuer Conversion
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 01, 2016, 08:41:31 AM
A couple of pics of #9187

Before screw repair

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_5698.jpg)

After screw repair

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_2145.jpg)
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 01, 2016, 08:58:09 AM
I might be having email you to talk about fixing up my pistol.

JW

I am available to help in any way I can!
Here are a couple pics of the finished Centaure.........

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_2144.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_2151.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_2148.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/IMG_2147.jpg)
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lefty Dude on January 01, 2016, 02:09:37 PM
Nice work, Gary.  ;)
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: LonesomePigeon on January 27, 2016, 11:14:00 PM
 What's this about Centaure's being proofed for smokeless? For the record I am NOT thinking of shooting smokeless in my Centaure. The reason I ask is because my Centaure came to me with a rusty cylinder and there are two significant pits in the chamber walls. I currently consider this cylinder unsafe but if it's made of super strong steel maybe it is safe for black powder. Maybe the cylinder can be tested professionally? I don't know if that's even possible or what the cost might be? If there's a good chance it's still sound it might be worth testing since spare Centaure cylinders are not easy to find.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Lefty Dude on January 27, 2016, 11:57:44 PM
The Centaure's  all have a Belgium proof smokeless mark on the piece. This is not to say use smokeless in the C&B Cylinder. The Proof indicates the steel is the same as used in Smokeless Fire Arms. And has been tested under Smokeless standards at the time they were made.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 28, 2016, 06:45:23 AM
What's this about Centaure's being proofed for smokeless? For the record I am NOT thinking of shooting smokeless in my Centaure. The reason I ask is because my Centaure came to me with a rusty cylinder and there are two significant pits in the chamber walls. I currently consider this cylinder unsafe but if it's made of super strong steel maybe it is safe for black powder. Maybe the cylinder can be tested professionally? I don't know if that's even possible or what the cost might be? If there's a good chance it's still sound it might be worth testing since spare Centaure cylinders are not easy to find.

The pistol in this post now carries a Pietta cylinder. I fitted a Pietta to this unfired piece because it had excessive cylinder end gap from the factory.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: LonesomePigeon on January 28, 2016, 08:25:47 PM
Hoof I would be very interested in having you fit a new cylinder to my Centaure. Please pm me if you can do this.
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Major 2 on January 29, 2016, 05:46:06 AM
saw that coming.... :)

best marriage of two threads, Hoof Hearted can sure do it an you will be PLEASED !
Title: Re: 1960 New Model Army
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 29, 2016, 06:24:32 AM
Hoof I would be very interested in having you fit a new cylinder to my Centaure. Please pm me if you can do this.

PM sent Brotha!