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CAS TOPICS => Gun Reviews => Topic started by: olered on March 25, 2015, 01:54:51 PM
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My local gun shop called me today to let me know they just got one of these in. A couple of things I would like to learn before going to see it. What is Photo Engraving and Coin Finish with Hardening? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Coin finish refers to bright or high polish in the white ....not to be confused with Nickel
I suppose one could say polished SS is a mimic of coin finish w/ heat treatment
I believe photo engraving is an acid etching using a acid resistant film template.
course , I thought maybe I'd been wrong before, turn out I was mistaken though
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Ok that makes sense on both questions but now another quandary to the mix. Taylor's and Cimarron show what appears the same revolver, same engraving on them. Only difference I see is grips. Taylor's calls their s a Cattleman and Cimarron a Frontier. Taylor's is about $150 more than Cimarron. Taylor's that much better?
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Cattleman is Uberti's nomenclature
Cimarron uses "Frontier" on their imported Pietta
Both SAA clone's , not the same gun however
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Cattleman is Uberti's nomenclature
Cimarron uses "Frontier" on their imported Pietta
Both SAA clone's , not the same gun however
I was under the impression that Uberti made revolvers for both Cimarron ond Taylor's. All I have for comparison is pictures from both sites and they have the same engraving and finish. The only difference is the grip. I will have to look further into this. I called my dealer and he was mistaken as the revolver he has came from Cimarron not Taylor's. Must be some subtle differences I am not catching. Going to look the Frontier over tomorrow. Thanks for the help Major.
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Well I looked at both Taylor's and Cimarron sites to compare the two revolvers. Upon closer inspection I see that the engraving is a little different on them. Taylor's looks to be engraved deeper and a little more coverage. Actually I prefer the Taylor's model of the two. Still going to look at Cimarrons to hold it, fondle it and drool.
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(http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-8SWXFqR/0/M/engtaylor1resize-M.jpg)
(http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-hGcHDjF/0/M/engravedcurley1-M.jpg)
the curley cole on the backstrap was done by Kelly Laster
(http://sdough.smugmug.com/Art/Just-For-Fun/i-XCngc2m/0/M/gw2y-M.jpg)
I have a pair of Taylors engraved. Old Top likes to call them my scratched up guns. The Taylors are photo/lazer engraved. ythen they were chased by hand to make them look more real. These have been my main match guns for about 10 years
also enclosing a shor of emf engraved GW2. they look very much like the original GW's owned by JohnWayne and used in the Shootist
they are both great shooters
questions? fire away
curley
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Howdy
Here is a picture of the Pietta Frontier from Cimarron .
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I've been researching this same gun. I haven't found a Cimmaron engraved 1873 but I was told by a local gun dealer that the Taylor & Co. is a Pietta and about $350 less than the Uberti engraved Stainless Steel 1873 Cattleman.
I'm new to this site and to the CAS but am wanting to learn. I currently have a Uberti 1875 Outlaw in .45 Colt.
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Uberti SS w/ fitted Colt ® 1st. gen grip frames & NC Ordnance OEM Colt fleur-de-lis panels
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Very late to this post but thought it would benefit those interested to see better quality photos of the actual Taylors & Company SAA.
Notice how deep the hand chased work makes the engraving look. It is stamped A. Uberti on the bottom of the barrel.
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These are great, who offered the reblued one?
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I believe EMF has a blued engraved one...
I would like to find another one that matches mine...
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The Taylors and Company version is not just photo etched, but they have a skilled engraver chase and deepen the design, which is why they are more expensive. I have both and the one from Pietta is not as deeply engraved.
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Laser engraving has greatly improved, but its still clearly not equal to the real thing. That’s okay, because these are replica firearms. A brand new fully engraved Colt will run you 20 grand, or more. These guns give us the look and feel at an approachable price. For that I think they’re great. I shot the living snot out of a fully engraved Uberti and loved every minute of it.
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.... A brand new fully engraved Colt will run you about 20 grand, or more. ...
Uh, no. A Colt costs around 2 grand if you can find one, and a full engraving job from a master engraver varies but can be had for 2 or 3 grand.
A Colt made in 1880 and fully engraved at the time by Colt might run 20 grand.
But yeah, I shoot the heck out of engraved Uberti conversions and love every minute of that as well!
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Uh, no. A Colt costs around 2 grand if you can find one, and a full engraving job from a master engraver varies but can be had for 2 or 3 grand.
A Colt made in 1880 and fully engraved at the time by Colt might run 20 grand.
But yeah, I shoot the heck out of engraved Uberti conversions and love every minute of that as well!
I'm talking about a FACTORY engraved Colt. Take a trip over to their website, and if you nose around you'll see their form for a custom SAA or 1911, and there you will find pricing...but make sure you're wearing your seatbelt.
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https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/media.connecteddatasolutions.com/downloads/Colt+Custom+Shop+Order+Form+SAA+Q3-2019.pdf
If you get "all the fixin's" it's not hard to exceed 20k at all.