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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2021, 06:42:28 AM »
I had one in the shop and made some drop in "safety deletes" for them.  Just remove the pin that holds the spring and plunger in the hammer, remove the spring and plunger, drop in the S.D. and replace the pin to keep it in place. Much cleaner and faster than JB.  It allows you to re-install the safety device if you ever want to sell it or carry it with 6.

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2021, 10:53:57 AM »
Thank you sir!

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2021, 08:19:28 AM »

I personally don't like the idea of a Floating Firing Pin.  Lucky for me, I retired before they became an issue.  I personally wouldn't purchase any SA with a Floating Firing Pin.  I can't comment on the reliability as I haven't heard any documented examples of a failure to fire.

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #63 on: November 15, 2021, 10:01:15 AM »
I am going to replace mine with a standard hammer etc. 

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2021, 01:37:35 PM »
I call it the "Peek-a-Boo" firing pin, because if you look through the frame window of an unloaded Uberti and pull the trigger, the firing pin will peek out, and then retract. 

I think its a VERY slick solution to the problem, and it doesn't bother me in the least.  I bought a stainless Cattleman for my son and it has the Peek-a-Boo firing pin.  He does old west reenactments as his full time job, so that revolver gets nothing but horrendous abuse, and she's humming right along. 

But I get that people want the realism of the originals and there's nothing wrong with that. 

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #65 on: February 02, 2022, 08:49:06 PM »
I had one in the shop and made some drop in "safety deletes" for them.  Just remove the pin that holds the spring and plunger in the hammer, remove the spring and plunger, drop in the S.D. and replace the pin to keep it in place. Much cleaner and faster than JB.  It allows you to re-install the safety device if you ever want to sell it or carry it with 6.

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45 Dragoon;
I have S.A. Cattleman II 45 Colt/45 ACP with the RETRACTING FIRING PIN and it was working great for about 200 rounds then I suddenly started getting light primer strikes. Less than half the depth of the previous rounds. Last 6 rounds only one would ignite, the other 5  were lite strikes.
     Took it to the shop, dismantled and cleaned it and found that the Trigger Bar was not pushing the Transfer Bar up far enough to get full firing pin extension but was only pushing it about 1/2 way out resulting in the light strikes. Even took the Transfer Bar out, cleaned & de-burred it, but it appeared to be working properly.
     Could find no wear, broken parts or anything that was causing this. Any ideas/suggesting's, what to look for would be greatly appreciated!

Al

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #66 on: February 03, 2022, 08:51:54 AM »

 :) Tinker  ;)

First a CAVEAT: I ain't 45 Dragoon.  I'm da odder Mike.  The older better looking one.  It sounds to me as if there is some wear on the op-rod to the firing pin.  My other CAVEAT:  I think the retracting firing pin is STUPID.

Suggest:  Contact Mike Brackett (Da udder Mike) at GoonsGunworks and see if you can source his Safety Delete parts for your SA.  Or:

Contact Taylors & Co. for the parts to retro fit your Cattleman II to the prior Hammer/Trigger/Firing Pin.

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #67 on: February 03, 2022, 11:02:23 AM »
Thanks, I'll check them out.

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2022, 02:05:58 PM »
Thanks, I'll check them out.

Update:

I checked Taylors & Co. for the parts to retro fit my Cattleman II but they were out of stock & were on back-order.

So I got to thinking (should do that more often) what would/could be one of the causes of light strikes??? How about a weak main spring?

So I pulled out my 'ol Trigger Pull Scale & checked out the force it took to chock the hammers on my following Revolvers:

Cattleman II .45/45 APC= 3.5 lbs.   Lots of light strikes, misfires.
Frontier .357 Mag ===== 3.0 lbs.   No misfires but shallow dimples,
Older Uberti .45 Colt === 5.15 lbs.  No light strikes. (Normal dimples).

I swapped the main spring from the Uberti to the Cattleman II and low and behold, it went “bang” every time. 50 rounds of .45 APC, 25 rounds .45 Colt.

Ordered two Main Springs from Taylor's & Company to replace the lighter ones.

And now I’m “Happy as a clam at high tide”.

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2022, 03:21:32 PM »
Just ordered 2 5.5 Inch 44-40 cattlemen.  If and when they arrive will post how much I like/dislike the look, feel and function of the floating 3 click hammer and what if anything I will do about it.  Thought I was smart staying out of the Taylor Tent at EOT less than a week later on the phone with them what the heck?
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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2022, 12:04:14 AM »
Took my brand new shiny 5.5 inch cattlemen in 44-40 to the range Wednesday. It has the much maligned floating firing pin. Pistol clocks just fine. Was it 3 clicks or 4 in  I did go boom every time with cci large pistol primesall the excitement I  kinda lost count. It did go boom every time with CCI large pistol primers. Groups centered left and right ab9ut 2 inches low with 6.4 grains of A#2 under a 200 grain desperado bullet. Is it a true authentic 1873 colt revolver. No it just looks like and shoots just fine even with the floating firing pin and only 3 clicks
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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2022, 11:51:53 AM »
Abilene!!

Say it isn't so!!  PLEASE!!  That is just SO INSANE!!  Also STUPID.  And DUMB!!  Have Uberti lost their collective minds??

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Re: Anyone have a "floating firing pin" Uberti SAA replica?
« Reply #72 on: Today at 03:58:30 PM »
Follow UP  I obtained an older model Uberti with floating firing pin.  The ones with 4 click hammer and slots in the hammer where one can see the strut and some of the other mechanizm in the hammer.  It has functioned flawlessly with my reloads using CCI large pistol primers.  The older pistol hammer cocks noticeably easier than the brand new cattleman II.  It also has a lighter trigger pull.  I did notice when I had the grips off a washer between frame and the mainspring.  Have not had the grips off the brand new gun to see if the washer is user installed or factory.

The new model I received and posted about in this forum was working well until stage 5 of the May match went bang click click click click on both state 5 and 6.  After match I cleaned it really well.  I am guessing some of the Arizona grit got into the firing pin channel of the frame preventing firing pin from properly impacting.   After cleaning the pistol worked flawlessly for 50 rounds fired by 5 different shooters and also worked flawlessly in the June ACSA CAS match.
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