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The Barracks / Re: 1896 Army-Navy Colt .38 question
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 07:43:25 PM »
For TJ
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Spencer Shooting Society / Early Spencer Carbine Serial Number Lookup
« Last post by jsmosby on Today at 07:39:05 PM »
A friend here in Colorado recently purchased what appears to be a complete and original carbine.  The four-digit serial number, 5157, blew me away.  I just didn't expect to see such a low number in addition to two script inspection cartouches on the wrist yet to be ID'd.   Please provide any information you may have that I can pass on to him and "light the fire".  I think he has an interesting piece.  Thank you for your time and effort.  Take care, John
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: No Trail Boss what's close?
« Last post by Crow Choker on Today at 05:56:40 PM »
I've never heard that about HP38 (or 231).  You're not thinking of Titegroup are you?  They definitely say that one is not position sensitive.  I've used it and it is okay but a little "snappy".

MY BAD  ::) ::), believe yer right Abilene, had a brain seizure of some kind.  ;D Was thinking of Titegroup which I've shot alot of in various calibers. I do like Titegroup though. I believe yer right, it is a bit 'snappier' than 231/HP38, but not enough to hinder shooting IMO. I did research HP38 on Hodgdons site before posting this, no mention of it being position insensitive. I DID go back to my last post before this and edited it to prevent any confusion by any readers.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: No Trail Boss what's close?
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Today at 05:34:02 PM »

 :) RRio  ;)

Clean-Up is a breeze.  When using it in Suppository Shooters, I wipe down the Breach end of the Barrel/Frame with PAM, swab out the barrel with a wet PAM patch, dry patch, oily patch.  Same routine for the Cylinder.  Easy Peasy.

Will need to drop the fired cases in some water cut about 25% with White Vinegar, rinse, dry, I dry tumble, reload.  Also really easy.

Play Safe Out There
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The Barracks / Re: 1896 Army-Navy Colt .38 question
« Last post by Tascosa Joe on Today at 05:28:10 PM »
As some of you may know, I managed to talk TL out of the John Chase Colt, that is the subject of this thread.  I received the Colt letter today.  The letter has it shipped to John P. Lower's Sons in Denver, which to me is fantastic.  The only thing that would have been better had the inscription been applied at the factory, but alas it was not.  I am happy, now to finish the research on Chase and make a display. 
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Spencer Shooting Society / Re: Got A Taylors Repro 44 Russian
« Last post by Sedalia Dave on Today at 04:57:34 PM »
Thats a deal, and it sounds like you got one that cycles fairly well.  I forget did those hold 9 or 10 in the tube?

Should only hold 7. Difference between the two cartridges in about 0.17"
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: No Trail Boss what's close?
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 04:53:49 PM »
...One thing about HP38 is that it is considered by Hodgdon to be insensitive to position in that it burns well wherever its laying in the case. Works well esp in bigger cases like the 45 Colt...
I've never heard that about HP38 (or 231).  You're not thinking of Titegroup are you?  They definitely say that one is not position sensitive.  I've used it and it is okay but a little "snappy".
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The Longbranch / Re: Something a little different or Gun-a-holic Part II
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 04:41:16 PM »
Mid 50's for me too, CC
Mattel, Ideal, Marx, Nickols, & Hubley were the big shots in the industry as I recall.

I had a "Have Gun Will Travel" single gun set the gun had wood grips and the holster was reasonable quality leather.

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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: No Trail Boss what's close?
« Last post by Crow Choker on Today at 04:01:55 PM »
Well....Ifin you can find any Red Dot, I've loaded many many (1000's) of lead bullets all the way from 38's, 44 Specials, and 45 Colts with Red Dot with great success and good accuracy in the power level that CAS is shot. I've never used it myself, but have read of loaders using Green Dot also. Can't recall if its faster or slower in burn rate than its Red cousin, but in the ball park.

 Winchester 231 works well also (many many rounds loaded with it) if it is still available or Hodgdon HP38 which it and 231 are basically the same powder. As I mentioned in an earlier post Titegroup works well, have loaded it some in 38 Spec, mostly in 45 Colt and 45 ACP. It is regarded to be position insensitive which works well in large cases. I never noticed any problems back in the day with light loads of Bullseye, 231, Red Dot, HP38, etc in 38 Spec rounds, esp shooting in any of my Police Combat or PPC days or any CAS type ranges/shooting. These ranges and the type of shooting isn't like trying to get real tight groups as if paper punching from a rest. If any of these powders can be found, you won't be disappointed. (edited)  :)
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Major---That Hubley Colt 1911 is an interesting piece. Never heard of them before, would be interesting to handle and examine one to see how the innards work. If they were made after 1960, they would have been available after my paper cap gun days, but sure is neat. I'll have to search the internet and see if any info is there.

Regards to 'my cap gun' days, I had a number of them back 'in the day'. The only ones I can really recall is a Roy Rogers double set (chromed pot metal of course) that had a double buscadero belt, light tan color with alot of concho's and trim. Pretty fancy rig in the day. My cap gun days were around the 1955-60 era. I recall it was a big deal to get ahold of the 'big box' of rolled caps vs a box that maybe only had 10 rolls or so. Simple pleasures. All of us elementary school kids brought our cap guns to school alot, strapped them on at recess and refought the west and Dodge City. Now poor kids would be sent home, expelled, and the parents probably sent to some reeducation location.

Had several lever Winchester style rifles back then, one that shot caps. Had a double barrel 'sawed off' shotgun that ya cocked by breaking it like a real one, it shot corks but many times when lacking corks, I made my own ammo by using whatever soft rigid material I could find and that would work in the scattergun--early reloading days.  ;D

 All those Western firearms disappeared with time, but back in the nineties when going through a building my Dad used as a weld shop on the farm, I found one of the Roy Rogers 45's on a shelf. Grips missing, some chrome missing, but still functional. Had a genuine Daisy Red Rider BB gun when cap guns lost their appeal, had a saddle ring. It's MIA---those were the days. Fond memories.  :) ;D
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