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CAS TOPICS => Gun Reviews => Topic started by: Stew on August 12, 2012, 08:38:48 AM
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38spl vs. 45LC
I have been reloading both calibers for years and have probably 6000+ 38spl brass and nickel cases and 3000+ LSW 158gr bullets for the 38spl, and 0 brass or bullets for the 45LC.
I am starting over with CAS. My first go-around was all 45LC and of course I sold ALL my guns and reloading supplies from the first go, and now I will need to buy all New.
My question is how many people shoot 38spl? I hate not to be able to use the brass and bullets I have on hand, so in your opinion would it be better to go back with the 45LC or 38spl?
I have $3000.00 to spend on new firearms just need some guidance on the better road, 38spl or 45LC?
Thanks for your Help!
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Sounds like you got a good start on loading for .38 and a budget for the rest that is resonable enough to do. Good Luck and have fun
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If these guns will only be for SASS/CAS then .38 will do fine. If you plan on using them for other reasons, hunting or maybe home defense then the .45 is better, at least in my opinion.
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These will be 100% for CAS.
The last shoot I attended was 7 or 8 years ago and most had 45LC, what ar most using today 38 or 45??
Thanks again for the Help!!
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38 Spcl is the most popular caliber, due to less recoil / faster shooting, lower cost for ammo / reloading. .45LC is not far behind. The semi-wadcutter bullets you have will be fine for pistol but most rifles prefer a RNFP or TC shaped bullet.
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If you eat steak, enjoy good beer, quote the "Duke", and like to view a playboy bunny once in a while, .45 is your caliber.
If you eat Tofu burgers, sip wine coolers, skip alot, and dance with your hands above your head, .38 is what you need.
;D ;D ;D
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If you eat steak, enjoy good beer, quote the "Duke", and like to view a playboy bunny once in a while, .45 is your caliber.
If you eat Tofu burgers, sip wine coolers, skip alot, and dance with your hands above your head, .38 is what you need.
;D ;D ;D
;D Now that is funny at least to me.
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If you eat steak, enjoy good beer, quote the "Duke", and like to view a playboy bunny once in a while, .45 is your caliber.
If you eat Tofu burgers, sip wine coolers, skip alot, and dance with your hands above your head, .38 is what you need.
;D ;D ;D
Yep, that’s kind of what I was thinking. Very well put.
45LC mind made up.
Thanks for the input.
I was also looking around my reloading bench and came across 5000 Large Pistol primers, so not all bad this will give me a chance to put them to good use.
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Where I shoot it's mostly .38s. I hold a .45 in each hand, I'm a Gunfighter.
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On a more serious note:
I mostly shoot NCOWS nowdays. 90% of the folks I shoot with either shoot .44WCF, .45 Colt, or .45 S&W and a few 38-40's ( still a 40 cal bullet). Very rare to see .38 spc.
When I attend SASS venues, looks like most are shooting .38 spc.
Do remember, NCOWS is about authenticity. SASS is now a speed sport.
Not saying one is better than the other, that's just the way they are.
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I would rather go for the more authentic caliber of 45LC also. So the decision has been made to go with 45LC.
By the way what the heck is TOFU????
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I would rather go for the more authentic caliber of 45LC also. So the decision has been made to go with 45LC.
By the way what the heck is TOFU????
From the "Urban Dictionary" (my source of info when I need to better understand the 21st century and its inhabitants.)
tofu
n.
A cheese-like product made from mixing soy beans with Plaster of Paris. Now used in products that try to imitate meat.
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From the "Urban Dictionary" (my source of info when I need to better understand the 21st century and its inhabitants.)
tofu
n.
A cheese-like product made from mixing soy beans with Plaster of Paris. Now used in products that try to imitate meat.
I think I’ll just stick with Steak and potatoes.
Thanks for your Help!!
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From the "Urban Dictionary" (my source of info when I need to better understand the 21st century and its inhabitants.)
tofu
n.
A cheese-like product made from mixing soy beans with Plaster of Paris. Now used in products that try to imitate meat.
I like that definition of Tofu, that is great. By the way I shoot 45LC in both my pistols and rifle so I only have to worry about one caliber for my cartridge guns.
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I could be wrong, but i believe the "GREAT WILD BILL" used .36's, as personal side arms,,,,,i bet the 38's would be fine.
hootnix.
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I could be wrong, but i believe the "GREAT WILD BILL" used .36's, as personal side arms,,,,,i bet the 38's would be fine.
Touche' ;)
hootnix.
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I like that definition of Tofu, that is great. By the way I shoot 45LC in both my pistols and rifle so I only have to worry about one caliber for my cartridge guns.
Hi
I'm getting 45LC when I get a chance, I never even considered buying .38 Special.
Think of Tofu as ancient Chinese Hamburger Helper. You stir fry it with actual food products so it tastes like what you fried it with. (garlic, chicken or beer is good) Good stuff if you have 9 kids stretching that half pound of chicken.
later
Mike
Moore OK
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it comes down to what you want to shoot. What Pancho said, with a lot of clubs, SASS has become a speed sport. Be it as it may, my most difficult task before going to a match is to decide what persona I want Pappy Myles to be and time period. I have been very fortunate to have been able to amass quite a collection. (I need to join GBA!! - gun broker anonymous) I have pistols in 45 colt, 44-40, 38/357 and 32 H&R. If I feel like a tofu buger (spit spit) and skipping from the parking lot to the range (I love that comparison - good one Pancho!) I'll take out the 38's or even the 32's. I love the banter about the mouse guns and taking up for the underdog. It does provide a little comic relief. Or if I want to be obnixious, I take out the big SS OM Vaqueros with the 7 1/2 barrel in 45 colt and shoot black, or my old armies. I've come to the conclusion, even with the 38's I'll never be the fastest, (esp when you see a buckaroo shoot a clean match as he empties both of his 6 guns in the time it takes me to pull the 1st one out of the holster), but I can have the most fun with what I shoot!
And I do love the big bang, clang. and recoil that a 45 or a 44 makes. To bad a lot of clubs no longer have reactive targets that take a solid hit from at least a 200 grain bullet.
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With the Cowboy squib loads used by .45 Colt shooters in CAS competition, 38 Special is just fine. Unless you have to have .45 Colt, there is nothing wrong with shooting .38 Special.
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With the Cowboy squib loads used by .45 Colt shooters in CAS competition, 38 Special is just fine. Unless you have to have .45 Colt, there is nothing wrong with shooting .38 Special.
I am assuming you are speaking for yourself concerning 45 Colt, you certainly are not speaking for me. ;) WM
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I could be wrong, but i believe the "GREAT WILD BILL" used .36's, as personal side arms,,,,,i bet the 38's would be fine.
I have read that his preference in firearms was a pair of Navy model Colts held in a brightly colored sash that some say was bright red. The 1851 Navy percussion shot a .36 caliber (.375" - .380" lead ball. If the Navies that Wild Bill carried were Richards-Masons conversions they would have been .38 rimfire or .38 Short Colt or .38 Long Colt ( after. Which of these I don't have any documentation on, but according to the time line, any of the three are possibilities. The .38 rimfire were woefully underpowered and I have never seen a conversion done for this cartridge, but it is possible, The .38 long colt is a little more stout, but it sufferes from accuracy problems because the bullet does not completely fill the bore. The .38 Short Colt has the right sized bullet (.375") but again it is a bit underpowered about the same as the .38 S&W. Which did he use? I don't know. What do you think. Did he sacrifice power for accuracy?
hootnix.
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If you eat steak, enjoy good beer, quote the "Duke", and like to view a playboy bunny once in a while, .45 is your caliber.
If you eat Tofu burgers, sip wine coolers, skip alot, and dance with your hands above your head, .38 is what you need.
;D ;D ;D
HE HE ;D ;D
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If you want to really have fun go with 44 or 45 with just as much black powder as you can stuff in them. ;D
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If you eat steak, enjoy good beer, quote the "Duke", and like to view a playboy bunny once in a while, .45 is your caliber.
If you eat Tofu burgers, sip wine coolers, skip alot, and dance with your hands above your head, .38 is what you need.
;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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WHAT CLIFF FENDLEY SAID!!!!!!!
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Most competitors, not myself, want to download .45 Colt to gallery squib levels to compete using fast burining smokeless powder with lighter bullets....this to me is not really shooting .45 Colt and maybe not even .455 Webley. If the lighter loads are desired for better time in competition, I think it is easier and safer to go with 38 Special that is mild in its normal loadings.
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I shoot .45 because it is more authentic to me. Growing up with the old westerns I never heard anyone say they were strapping on their Colt 38's ;D
I was tempted to go the path of 44-40; but found that 45 was easier for me to reload
I suppose if I were to start CAS shooting all over again, I would go with .38/.357s
I shoot a reduced load; but it's not because I'm trying to be a gamer.
I use APP which loads by volume, adding grits to my load helps to make it more affordable.
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If one is a gamer who wants to win, the 38 Special seems ideal, lower cost per round and has a reputation for accuracy.
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I'm not in competition, but do like to shoot and I chose custom Pietta .357/.38 for economical factor. I do plan getting a .45LC for fun factor, but that's going to be a real Colt. I've been shooting guns for past 8 years or so, and looking at the cost of ammo (I don't reload) I'd rather spend my money on a better rig, more ammo, bowie or any Old West accessorie. I shoot about 100-200 rounds per month or less wih the single actions, so really no comparison to CASS members, so good luck with whatever you decide.
Bear
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It's actually funny-I had intended on going with .357/.38s, not because of a desire for speed or what have you, but the economics, coupled with my rather unfortunate disability, they're more comfortable to shoot.
HOWEVER, when time came to buy, they didn't have exactly what I wanted in the .357s (I would have had to drive to two stores, and would STILL have ended up with brass backstraps), but they DID have the .45s in a MATCHED SET (serial numbers and all)...
So I shoot .45.
PLUS, it is a more authentic round, even if it DOES cost an arm and a leg to shoot. Besides, growing up, Ranger Reed was my HERO. ;)
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I think .38 is an idea round for Ladies and small children. I've never experienced the shame of being called a 'gamer'.
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I think .38 is an idea round for Ladies and small children. I've never experienced the shame of being called a 'gamer'.
OI! I take offence at that! I've one of pretty much every type of gaming system sitting on my-OOOOOOOOOOH, you're talking about... OK. Nevermind! ;)
Aye, the snap of a .45 LC wouldn't do my wife any good. Oh, she'd handle it quite well-make no mistake, and she'd hit what she's aiming at, by thunder-but her PREFERRED round is a .32 ACP.
As to small children-my nephew is pushing 10-I'd much prefer to see him stick with .22 LR 'til he's a bit older.
Still, them what use .38s, as I said-it'd be more ideal for me because I've a very bad shoulder injury, what's left my arm a bit... Well, sensitive to recoil. Whereas I'd LIKE to win it, that ain't what I'm there for-course, I'm still shooting .45 LC... But that's not the point-point is, not every guy who shoots .38s are these "Gamers" as you say.
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Much discussion of authenticity here, and the .45 Colt seems to be considered the "most authentic". That premise depends on what time frame your persona is living in as well as the class you are shooting. Indeed, I use my .45's for my smokeless shooting to fine effect. However, if I am shooting Black Powder (mostly NCOWS shooter) which requires pre-1873 weapons, the .45 Colt does not work. So, in my 1851 RM conversion, I use .38 Special (not authentic but close) and an Open Top in .44 Russian. I think it comes down to what you really want, not what someone is shooting. A .38 Special with 158gr lead over a 22gr FFFg is not neccessarily a "wimp" load by the way. If you want to use your .38 Spec case, pick up a couple of the conversions available and have at it.
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There are a few myths here (the quote did not copy for some reason) that should be clarified in terms of Wild Bill's weapons and method of carry. First up, the use of the red sash is very overstated. There is only one photo and one written reference to his wearing a sash, it was evidently a CivWar NCO Sash. I have tried to wear my pistols tucked into a sash and the loading lever latch will catch on the sash when pulling the pistols. I doubt Bill would have used this method of carry with such a possible problem. I tried using holsters underneath but that didnt work either. But he may have had adapted a techinque to eliminate this problem that I cannot figure out and I cant ask Bill!!
According to White Eye Anderson, Wild Bill did have a pair of conversions when he was in Deadwood that he was practicing with but there is no evidence of caliber, nor that he ever carried them in public. I suspect he was uncomfortable with the handling and possibly, the power of the caliber he was using. In potential combat situations (which Deadwood was in July/Aug 1876), I believe he would have reverted to his trusty '51 Navy revolvers. By the by, his scabbards where made in such a manner that the area around the cylinders had room enough for the cylinders to rotate. He would sit, leaned up against a wall, arms crossed, hat pulled low with the illusion of resting, keeping an eye on the situation, revolvers cocked in his hands. In today's modern safety oriented world, the thought of cocked pistols in hand like this is unheard of. Gotta remember how comfortable and well practiced Wild Bill was with his revolvers.
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There are a few myths here (the quote did not copy for some reason) that should be clarified in terms of Wild Bill's weapons and method of carry. First up, the use of the red sash is very overstated. There is only one photo and one written reference to his wearing a sash, it was evidently a CivWar NCO Sash. I have tried to wear my pistols tucked into a sash and the loading lever latch will catch on the sash when pulling the pistols. I doubt Bill would have used this method of carry with such a possible problem. I tried using holsters underneath but that didnt work either. But he may have had adapted a techinque to eliminate this problem that I cannot figure out and I cant ask Bill!!
According to White Eye Anderson, Wild Bill did have a pair of conversions when he was in Deadwood that he was practicing with but there is no evidence of caliber, nor that he ever carried them in public. I suspect he was uncomfortable with the handling and possibly, the power of the caliber he was using. In potential combat situations (which Deadwood was in July/Aug 1876), I believe he would have reverted to his trusty '51 Navy revolvers. By the by, his scabbards where made in such a manner that the area around the cylinders had room enough for the cylinders to rotate. He would sit, leaned up against a wall, arms crossed, hat pulled low with the illusion of resting, keeping an eye on the situation, revolvers cocked in his hands. In today's modern safety oriented world, the thought of cocked pistols in hand like this is unheard of. Gotta remember how comfortable and well practiced Wild Bill was with his revolvers.
I did not know that about him. Course, to be honest, I don't know much more'n what legends are around him. Need to learn more-one of my favorite western figures, he is.
That is very interesting about the way the holsters were made... Makes me want to test it with my rig, although I doubt it'll work.
Actually, I'm going to toddle off and try that right now (while not as practiced as Wild Bill, I'm fairly well comfortable around firearms, and my revolvers are no exception-'specially with the hand loads-it's like they were made for me). No, I won't be using actual bullets-that's what Snap Caps are for! ;)
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If you want to really have fun go with 44 or 45 with just as much black powder as you can stuff in them. ;D
This.
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Shoot what you damned well want and hang anyone's opinion if it gets in the way of having fun.
I started from scratch and went with .44s because they were cool. Had I located a pair of .38 OTs I likely would have started with them because those are also cool.
I just picked up my first .38 and I love it. I may end up with a .38 setup to alternately shoot those.
And then I need a .45 setup to alternate even more . . . .
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I shoot both 38 and 45, I even have a loading strip that is 45 on one side and 38 on the other side. I shoot equally with either and enjoy them
shoot what ya wanr
curley
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I shoot both 38 and 45, I even have a loading strip that is 45 on one side and 38 on the other side. I shoot equally with either and enjoy them
shoot what ya wanr
curley
Yep, it don't matter what you shoot as long as you play by the rules and you are the one having fun. And Gamer ain't a dirty word....all the so called Gamers I know are highly skilled shooters that put in countless hours of practice, they are the first ones there to set up and take down steel, they run the timers, they always go out of there way to help the new shooters.......all the Gamers I know I call friends. And (not that it matters) they do not shoot poof-tink loads.....that's usually wannabees (not that it matters). Most top shooters will tell you there is a point of diminshed returns when trying go too low, stay in the mid range for best results.
I shoot nothing but real BP....38s and 7/8oz shotshells for most local matches, saves me lead and powder. My fun, my way. For the big matches I shoot 44/40 and 1 1/8oz. Want to be more historically accurate??? ??? Ride a horse for three days to get to the next match :o ;D :P Good Luck :)
This is a fantasy game/sport.....have fun with your fantasy and don't worry about anyone else. As Judge Roy Bean said;
"Everybody seems to think we're a period shoot, but we're not. We're a fantasy cowboy acting shoot." - Judge Roy Bean
Jefro :D Relax-Enjoy
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And Gamer ain't a dirty word....all the so called Gamers I know are highly skilled shooters that put in countless hours of practice, they are the first ones there to set up and take down steel, they run the timers, they always go out of there way to help the new shooters.......all the Gamers I know I call friends.
This is wisdom brothers and sisters. It's just fun so drop the labels and have fun, I load mine with all I can pack in because that is what I like. Other guys are playing for speed against themselves and others--that is what they like--and they are a fantastic group of people to hang with and shoot with. I wouldn't trade either group.
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I have a set of 38s and 45s. They are all set up to run fast. I haven't noticed much difference when it comes to speed. I mostly use the 38s because they are cheaper to reload. That means I get to shoot more for less. I would rather shoot than admire a gun. :)
By the way if you want to be really authentic, go .44-40. Lots and lots of cowboys went that route. Pistol and rifle ammunition was interchangable. Not many rifles made in .45 Colt before the modern era.
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Shooting .45 LC is a hoot. I enjoy shooting that caliber, especially from a shooting buddy's S&W Mountain Gun.
For practicality and keeping down costs, the .38 is much cheaper.
I don't actually own any .45 LC firearms, while I do have five in .38 special. I like to plink and informally target shoot with it, use it for Cowboy Action shootin' (Marlin and Cimarron SA) and it is what I carry for CCW (S&W). You should find the components are less expensive too, if you reload.
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I have a set of 38s and 45s. They are all set up to run fast. I haven't noticed much difference when it comes to speed. I mostly use the 38s because they are cheaper to reload.
I think having a set of .38s to shoot because of this is a darned good reason to shoot .38, especially lately. As for your nother point, I did just buy a .44-40 1873 (Ubertoni).
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(http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx46/Bibbyman/IMG_20130923_083521_zpsc3f7a0aa.jpg)
Here is my matching serial number set (exceptnone has an L and other R) Cattleman in 45 Colt, 5.5 barrels.
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I don't dance, I have no idea what Tofu is, I just helped my nephew open a new brewery in June Lake Ca, and if my steak is cooked by putting it on a plate and walking it through a warm room, lm happy! As for myself,along with many of the Worlds top shooters, (which I'm not)! We use the 38 / 357s. IMHO, if you have that many 38 cases and bullets, then stick with them. You will need every penny of that $3000.00 to buy new guns and have at least some action work done. Either way, good luck and happy / safe shooting! W.L. ;D
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Wow, this thread was started exactly two years ago! I believe Stew decided on .45 Colt as his caliber of choice.
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I make and sell Cowboy bullets. That is all I do. It is my living. And can tell you.
That I easily sell 15-20 thousand .38's for every 1 thousand .45's. And most of those buy both and
are just getting the .45's for Wild Bunch. And those that are buying for regular cowboy matches
are looking for the lightest grain .45 bullet they can get.
Just remember. The targets are dead already. We don't need to kill them again. And for those that
think shooting a bigger caliber somehow makes them more manly. Well. They have other
problems. 8)
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Or MAYBE they just like to shoot a bigger caliber. ::) wM1
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Or, maybe, just maybe, they like shooting the cartridge calibers that were most commonly available to them within the time period?
My best,
Blair
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Or, maybe, just maybe, they like shooting the cartridge calibers that were most commonly available to them within the time period?
My best,
Blair
This is it for me. I own a .38 and shoot it, but it is loaded with .38 Long Colt cartridges firing black powder.
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What a fun topic to read. Being new to CAS I needed to also decide the issue and for me cost was an important decision. I wanted good guns that I could afford to shoot. Ended up getting Ruger New Vaqueros in .38/.357 So far I am very happy. ;D
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What a fun topic to read. Being new to CAS I needed to also decide the issue and for me cost was an important decision. I wanted good guns that I could afford to shoot. Ended up getting Ruger New Vaqueros in .38/.357 So far I am very happy. ;D
Cannot go wrong with that choice in my opinion. Hope you are always having fun mate.
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Why is it that the people who shoot warthog loads bad mouth the "gamers". And in 14 years, I am trying to remember where and when the gamers have written about heavy/stout loads. A gamer is not illegal. They might wear tricked out leather, tricked out guns, and light loads but they are legal. BTW, the Wild Bunch calls Cowboy Action Shooting a "fantasy game".
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Since we couldn't be there (1800-1900's) to help make history,then what's wrong with our trying to keep it alive in our hearts and minds. Those in the past bought and shot what was aviable to them,,me too. ( Love a good debate,,,,, don't ya'll).
Hootmix.
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Slamfire,
Just from my prospective, and mine only, I believe you are correct in your thoughts and approach.
My best,
Blair
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Why is it that the people who shoot warthog loads bad mouth the "gamers". And in 14 years, I am trying to remember where and when the gamers have written about heavy/stout loads. A gamer is not illegal. They might wear tricked out leather, tricked out guns, and light loads but they are legal. BTW, the Wild Bunch calls Cowboy Action Shooting a "fantasy game".
I just looked thru this thread and did not find any "warthog load" shooters badmouthing "gamers". On the same note I have had gamers thank me when I was done shooting so their "ears could take a rest". By the way my loads could be a lot stouter than they are. CAS is a fantasy game. What is wrong with that? By your own admission they "might wear tricked out leather, tricked out guns, and light loads." I don't have a problem with that but it is not reality. It seems to me you are the one badmouthing other people. wM1
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Again, just my opinion,
I feel it has to do with the variety of disciplines, Cas/Was has to offer within their respective scenarios.
Each of these are offering too much!
Too much for what was available during the time period.
Who stops it?
Where does it stop?
My suggestion is to use the History to correct the issues.
My best,
Blair
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YUP!!! cowboys on the range shot one size ,,,,store keepers& gamblers another,,,they all helped make what we'r trying to do ,,,so lets thank them & enjoy it.
Hootmix.
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I only see manufactured issues. I like shooting BP, WB and a couple of days a week I drive the four miles to the range where I will shoot my S&W MP 15 or my Walkers or my Beretta .380. I also shoot a couple of different 45/70's. I love to shoot 1911's and recently started shooting WB. At least one day a week we shoot 600+yds with Mosins. I have an issue with individuals who group types of shooters into blanket statements. ie:" Why is it the people who shoot warthog loads bad mouth the "gamers"." & "BTW, the Wild Bunch calls Cowboy Action Shooting a "fantasy game"." I really don't believe anyone interested in the shooting sports should making inflammatory statements about other shooters. I have shot "Warthog", I have also shot "poof ting". I would rather shoot Warthog. I guess part of it is that when I finish a stage or a day at the range I have enjoyed myself. I have seen quite a few and shot with quite a few people that if they had a bad stage they were miserable SOB's to be around. I hope I'm never that way. I shoot because I enjoy it. wM1
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I shootboth, I even have a loading strip that is 45 on one side and 38 the other side. on my shotgun beld I lave 38 rds on one side and 45 on the other. why be held pack.
curley
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I shoot several different calibers also Curly. For single day matches I will shoot 45 Colt, 44/40's or one of each. On multiday shoots I use my Nickle plated Uberti 357's. My wife just gave me a '73 in 357 mag so now I can swap that out with my 45 Colt. I have a pair of Thunderers, one is 44/40 and one is 45 Colt, when I use those I have to be careful loading. wM1
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Wildman,
Curly do not like the one true caliber (44-40) but he does pretty well with the 45s and 38s.
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I knew he was a pretty good feller, cause he's friends with Allie Meaux. ;D wM1
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I have had some "Buscadero, short barrel only .38" guys bad mouth my 1860 Conversions, Money belt and slim Jim setup. So, yes there does seem to be a bit of mouth flying about on all sides, I personally don't care about it because guess what . . . I do what I like, and enjoy it.
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Mean Bob,
I have seen the "bad mouth" come from both sides of this coin.
While I try not to be judgmental of what others do or don't do, many of my postings are very history heavy. And that puts me on the BP history side of things for the most part.
I think the sad part of this is the animosity that seems to occurs as a result of the two really rather different disciplines within what should be the same organizations.
CAS City.com seems to do a pretty good job of trying to help both concepts.
That is why I like being here!
My best,
Blair
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What Blair said!!! ( And well said)
Hootmix.
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Mean Bob,
I have seen the "bad mouth" come from both sides of this coin.
While I try not to be judgmental of what others do or don't do, many of my postings are very history heavy. And that puts me on the BP history side of things for the most part.
I think the sad part of this is the animosity that seems to occurs as a result of the two really rather different disciplines within what should be the same organizations.
CAS City.com seems to do a pretty good job of trying to help both concepts.
That is why I like being here!
My best,
Blair
Could not agree more with your perspective. I think a little levity amongst our brethren on such topics goes a long way to settling any dust.
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I shoot a .38/.357 Ruger New Vaquero because well, .........I like it! and for me, this is a fantasy that's why I enjoy it! I also do 1770's and Lewis and Clark re-enactments. I like to tell people that while we strive to be authentic, we drive to the event and we leave out things like smallpox and green meat. That's what I call selective re-enactment!