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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #280 on: May 21, 2011, 05:40:53 PM »
Yeah...Mucho Macho Man was blown out 'jus now too...too bad
I ended up a 2 and 3...She thought Shakelford was a "wash out" and not a contender...It was his day
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #281 on: May 22, 2011, 12:18:19 AM »
Race was just about ta start an ma neighbor come up an asked if I could help him with a dump run.  I was all prepared ta say no, I had somethin ta do but couldn't.  Missed the race completely.  Aint gonna answer the door when Belmont comes on.  At least I beat him good at cards when we got back.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #282 on: May 22, 2011, 04:56:26 AM »
Professional rassler Randy 'Macho Man' Savage died yesterday. Could it be a sign?

Yep think the horse thought it meant him.

Yeah...Mucho Macho Man was blown out 'jus now too...too bad
I ended up a 2 and 3...She thought Shakelford was a "wash out" and not a contender...It was his day

2 of 3 paided like 11 big ones


Shakelford was the best horse there yesterday


It's been like 33 years since there has been a Triple Crown Winner. It's disappointing in many ways. Like hoping to see the Cleveland Indians win a worlds series again.  Many of the horses we see today are bred the following the same bloodlines has the previous winners, they are trained the same way. Yet the title elodes them. I suppose this is what keeps the excitment in the series of races.

3 weeks till the Belmont. Not alot of time off  for a young horse. 


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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #283 on: June 02, 2011, 03:13:05 PM »
Belmont 2011 contenders

Oddsmakers are currently listing Animal Kingdom, Shackleford and Nehro as the horses to watch in this year's Belmont Stakes after making impressive runs at the 2011 Kentucky Derby and the 2011 Preakness Stakes in May.

Animal Kingdom's initial victory at Churchill Downs, followed by Shackleford's surprise win at Pimlico, make them obvious favorites.

Nehro, who came in second in Kentucky, sat out the the Preakness but will meet up once again with the big boys at Belmont for an exciting race that will keep spectators at the edge of their seats. Add to that a possible upset by this year's sleeper, Mucho Macho Man, and you have all the makings of a horse race.

Other contenders scheduled to run in the final leg of the Triple Crown this year are Master of Hounds, Awesome Patriot, Alternation, Harlan's Hello, Brilliant Speed, Monson, Prime Cut, Santiva, Stay Thirsty, and Isn't He Perfect.

What a Triple Crown winner looks like

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c_ylcxgCaI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #284 on: June 02, 2011, 03:38:05 PM »
Great horse!! Thanks Roo for the memories I was 15 at the time, after I saw that win I wanted to be a jock...Barns wouldn't accept the girls 'til later. I did manage to gallop a few in the mid 80's though I always also considered "too long in the tooth", still have my gallopin' saddle.
I'll give the Animal Kingdom an nod, try Master of Hounds again and Stay Thirsty for my long shot.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #285 on: June 06, 2011, 03:17:40 PM »
http://www.drf.com/events/belmont-stakes

good video of Animal Kingdom arriving to the Track. The young horse unloads and is calm as can be.


I still think Shackleford is a horse to keep an eye or a small wager on
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« Reply #286 on: June 10, 2011, 06:46:15 AM »
here's the lpost order according to the drf website


2011 Belmont Stakes 
Post Horse / Sire ML Odds Watchmaker Odds Best Beyer Owner, Trainer, and Jockey Kentucky Derby Finish (Beyer) Preakness Finish (Beyer)
 Master of Hounds by Kingmambo10-1 8-1 95 Mrs. John MagnierA. O'Brien/G. Gomez 5th (95)   
   
 Stay Thirsty by Bernardini 20-1 20-1 89 Repole StableT. Pletcher/P:
 
 Ruler On Ice by Roman Ruler 20-1 20-1 86 George & Lori HallK. Breen/J. Valdivia Jr.     
 
 Santivaby Giant's Causeway 15-1 12-1 95 Tom Walters E. Kenneally/S. Bridgmohan 6th (95)
 
  Brilliant Speed by Dynaformer 15-1 15-1 95 Live Oak Plantation T. Albertrani/J. Rosario 7th (95) 
 
   Nehro by Mineshaft 4-1 7-2 99 Zayat Stables S. Asmussen/C. Nakatani 2nd (99)   
   
 Monzon by Thunder Gulch 30-1 30-1 90 Sagamore Farm I. Correas/J. Lezcano     
   
 Prime Cut by Bernstein 15-1 20-1 91 Donald Ada N. Howard/E. Pra

 Animal Kingdom by Leroidesanimaux 2-1 5-2 103 Team Valor International H. G. Motion/J. Velazquez 1st (103) 2nd (103)
 
 Mucho Macho Man by Macho Uno 10-1 8-1 99 Reeves T'bred Racing, et al K. Ritvo/R. Dominguez
 
 Isn't He Perfect by Pleasantly Perfect 30-1 50-1 87 Kharag Stables D. Shivmangal/R. Maragh   9th (87)
   
 Shackleford by Forestry 9-2 9-2 104 M. Lauffer & W. Cubbedge D. Romans/J. Castanon 4th (97) 1st (104)
 

 

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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #287 on: June 10, 2011, 12:01:06 PM »
I'll place my losing bet again...Animal Kindom, Master of Hounds and Shackleford.  If Brilliant Speed comes in after I bumped him it will prove that I am bad luck at the track.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #288 on: June 10, 2011, 12:32:20 PM »
everyone scrambles to cover bets on Brillant Speed... ;D
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #289 on: June 11, 2011, 08:10:22 AM »
everyone scrambles to cover bets on Brillant Speed... ;D
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #290 on: June 11, 2011, 06:13:34 PM »
Hard 'ta figure who's gonna prosper in a sloppy track :-\ Was nice to see Ruler on Ice win with not so many credentials to see a Derby entry. I was rootin' for Stay Thirsty 'ta hang on.
That's racin'...glad Animal Kingdom didn't suffer a catastrophic fall...poor John had a heck of a time stayin' in his irons.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #291 on: June 12, 2011, 03:23:50 AM »
well if you figgured the winner out you got a nice pay out at $51.20 and a $2 trifecta at 7.000 plus
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #292 on: April 04, 2012, 02:18:09 PM »
The past week has highlighted a Kentucky derby prospect. Winning the Louisiana Derby running with 109 to 1 odds

It's April and almost Derby Time
Little warm up, story from AP

NEW ORLEANS - Gennadi Dorochenko purchased Hero of Order for $3,000. The horse is now worth a whole lot more to his Russian owner and trainer after making history on Sunday at the Fair Grounds.
Hero of Order, which went off at odds of 109-1, took the $1 million Grade 2 Louisiana Derby, holding off pre-race favorite Mark Valeski down the stretch to become the longest shot ever to win the race. He also was the longest shot in the 13-horse field.
Previously, no horse with odds of 99-1 or higher had finished better than third.
"This horse I bought ... I break him, train him, everything,'' said Dorochenko, who spoke in a halting, Russian accent and talked in between sips of champagne. "I buy not expensive horses but I make these horses rich, expensive horses. Show me one genius here in America who buys a horse for $3,000 who wins $1 million race.''
Hero of Order took the lead midway through the far turn, stayed near the rail and held off Mark Valeski by half-a-length, running the 1 1/8 miles in 1:50.13 on a fast track. Rousing Sermon finished third, a nose ahead of Cigar Street, considered Mark Valeski's biggest challenger entering the race.
Hero of Order paid $220.80, $79.20 and $25.40.
Mark Valeski appeared on the verge of catching Hero of Order midway through the stretch. But jockey Rosie Napravnik, who won the 2011 Louisiana Derby aboard Pants On Fire, could not coax her horse to make up that final ground.
"We came around Cigar Street, and it looked like he got him put away easy enough and needless to say, that's who we thought we had to worry about,'' Mark Valeski trainer Larry Jones said. "We've been running against (Hero of Order) all meet, and I guess it was his turn.''
Hero of Order finished fourth in the Risen Star Stakes, the major prep race for the Louisiana Derby, and well behind Mark Valeski, which lost by a nose to El Padrino.
"We all doubted him every time he's run a little bit, but he's run well every time,'' Napravnik said of Hero of Order. "He's run the numbers that are good enough to compete, so it does and it doesn't surprise me.''
New Orleans native Eddie Martin Jr. was aboard Hero of Order, winning the Louisiana Derby for the first time.
"The horse showed good speed and put me in the race right away,'' Martin Jr. said. "My strategy was just go. I knew he was fit but I didn't know how good he was going to be against this sort of competition. . I guess you could say it's a fluke but the horse is really a legit horse. He proved he was deserving of the race.''
It was Hero of Order's second career victory in 14 starts. He earned $600,000, more than enough to qualify for the Kentucky Derby.
Dorochenko, 53, said he never had attended the Kentucky Derby and was non-committal about his future plans. He said he came to America in 1993 and began training horses in 1997.
"We'll see how he's feeling,'' he said. "I'll tell you one thing. I'll not be afraid to run in the Kentucky Derby or something. We'll see who's the best.''
Mark Valeski paid $3.40 and $2.80, while Rousing Sermon paid $4.00 to show.
Last year, the second- and third-place finishers at the Louisiana Derby - Nehro and Mucho Macho Now - finished in the exact same order at the Kentucky Derby.
"I'm disappointed we didn't win because I thought we were going to be the best horse, but we ran a good race,'' Napravnik said of Mark Valeski. "He's still a very nice race horse.''
The Louisiana Derby was one of three graded stakes races on Sunday's card. Nates Mineshaft ($20.80) blew away the field in the Grade II New Orleans Handicap for horses four years and older, winning by 7 1/4 lengths in a track record time of 1:47.64. Casino Host ($23.80) took the Grade II Mervin H. Muniz Jr. Memorial Handicap on turf for horses four years and up.

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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #293 on: April 05, 2012, 09:17:19 PM »
Sounds like that was a great race.

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« Reply #294 on: April 05, 2012, 09:33:20 PM »
Sounds like that was a great race.

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For the owner for sure. I am sure the trainer and their staff was estatic also. Then there are those that placed a few coins on it to win.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #295 on: April 06, 2012, 09:30:49 PM »
Still looking at the field, the odds are going to be interesting come the trumpet.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #296 on: April 13, 2012, 12:44:32 AM »
The critics are not saying much about this one, but I am watching it. Still a couple of weeks before post time.

No wordy description
Done Talking was no factor opening when opening 2012 with a10th in the Grade 3 Gotham Stakes, but the Maryland-based colt found the right spot to take advantage of his one-run closing style Saturday, finishing fast to win the Grade 3 Illinois Derby by nearly a length.
Give trainer Hamilton Smith credit for the massive turnaround in form, but Done Talking registered a pedestrian 92 BRIS Speed rating while rallying to defeat recent Aqueduct maiden winner Morgan's Guerrilla. The $300,000 payday should ensure his participation in the Derby field, but the Broken Vow colt could easily find himself overmatched against much deeper competition.
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Re: It's Derby time...Place yer bets
« Reply #297 on: April 19, 2012, 03:19:57 PM »
2012 Contenders...still listing Done Talking  last I seen/read it was in at 50-1  (but not alone there)


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« Reply #298 on: May 04, 2012, 05:08:07 PM »
Here's how I see it tomorrow.

Gemologist                                        7-1  Won the Wood Memorial

Dullahan   If I calculated correctly      7-5  Won at the Bluegrass  Dale Romans Trainer

Take Charge Indy                             5-1  Beat the Favorite at the Florida derby ( I really like this horse but am worried the distance won't be kind to it)

Bodemeister      current favorite         9-2   Won the Arkansas I normally like the horses winning the Arkansas Derby. I am not convinced this is a Derby winner.

LONG-SHOT.. This is the one I think, I am banking on for gas Money Home and got a $2 ready to go.
Done Talking      the Maryland Horse trained by Hamilton Smith   currently at 50-1   



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« Reply #299 on: May 04, 2012, 05:16:37 PM »
Since the Rapture is due today, we need a horse with a spiritual name....but there isn't one.  Could spell trouble.


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