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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => The Winchester Model 1873 => Topic started by: Dirty Dick on January 17, 2020, 05:36:18 PM

Title: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Dirty Dick on January 17, 2020, 05:36:18 PM
Hi y'all (I'm from the south! Southern Ontario, eh)

I just got a Taylor M73 in .44-40 that prefers OAL at 1.670"- 1.680". Is that normal for the 1873?  Cattidges at 1.690 or longer will not rise in the elevator. tying up the gun.

Help!
Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Dirty Dick on January 17, 2020, 06:50:59 PM
I think I have it figgered out!
Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Dirty Dick on January 18, 2020, 09:17:21 AM
Well, maybe not quite. The rim on the proper length cartridge strikes the bolt extension. Vigorously working the lever will force the rim past the extension  and allow the cartridge to chamber, I understand this is what causes the bolt extension to break. How do I adjust the mechanism to fix that?  Do I adjust the lifter, action arm or the lever? It seems to me the lifter is rising before the bolt will fully retract.
The rifle is a Taylor/Uberti with PGW gen 3 short stroke kit, whisper springs and light lever safety spring, that I just purchased used on Gunnutz. It has the stock brass lifter. Can anyone advise me on this problem?
Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: JustinGr on January 18, 2020, 10:00:26 AM
I?m still learning, but this sounds like a timing issue. The breach block must retract all the way before the carrier gets to the point of your jam. The lifer arm has a pad on it that gets filed to ?delay? or time the operation. Assuming your kit was not timed once it was installed. I would search threads on timing and you?ll get a better idea of the issue and steps involved.

Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Abilene on January 18, 2020, 06:36:48 PM
PGW's website tells how to adjust for timing in the installation instructions..
 http://www.pioneergunworks.com/s/SS_Kit_Install.pdf
Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Dirty Dick on January 18, 2020, 09:56:18 PM
Yes sir! Just what I needed, it is now timed and working perfectly.  Thank you very much for the information, I need all the help I can get with these old guns.   ;D
Title: Re: Taylor M73 .44-40
Post by: Dirty Dick on January 20, 2020, 07:13:14 PM
I?m still learning, but this sounds like a timing issue. The breach block must retract all the way before the carrier gets to the point of your jam. The lifer arm has a pad on it that gets filed to ?delay? or time the operation. Assuming your kit was not timed once it was installed. I would search threads on timing and you?ll get a better idea of the issue and steps involved.
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Exactly right, followed the video from PGW and got it timed and functioning well, thanks for the advice. This is a steep learning curve for me, the former Colt 1911 guy.