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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => BROW => Topic started by: Mike on September 14, 2016, 03:02:37 PM
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Looking at purchasing a Remington in 45 2.4. The gun has a tube sight fitted at present but want a tang sight and globe front sight.
Here in NZ we have limited sights and dealers to a/. Supply b/. Types to inspect before purchase.
The other issue is once the total value goes over $300nz including postage cost we get stung by tax's by the boarder police who are waiting rubbing their hands.
So if I am going to buy a sight I want to do it once. I have a number of sight already on guns ranging from lyman old and new, old and new marbles. I have had at least three Italian made tangs, not that impressed as with the new lyman and marbles .
So what is availble out there on the WWW.
What I belive I want is a easy to us, mid to long range sight which is easy to read ajustments. Any thoughts ;D
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Cool looking shooting iron! Is that dual extractors i see? I have machined my own tang and globes for mine 2. I do have the machinist drawings to refer to. What you are looking for should be available from Montana Vintage Arms company in Belgrade Montana.
regards
K. Williams
Montana
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Yes dual extractor, hope to have it in my hands in a couple of weekends.
Will have a look at the site you mention. Were did you get the drawings?
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I have several tang mounted sights from Montana Vintage Arms in Montana, and they are of the very best quality available anywhere in the world, in my opinion. They have a Vernier scale that is easy to read and very repeatable, which is critical. They are, as one would expect for the best, relatively expensive. For example, owing to the rate of exchange between USD and CND, I have almost $1000 in the rear and front sights on my Sharps. But worth every nickel to me.
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A friend has a Soule and is very pleased with it.
will have consider these.
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You might also want to try Lee Shaver Gunsmithing. He has a great reputation for the quality of his sights, and prices are quite reasonable.
http://www.leeshavergunsmithing.com
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Thanks for the link, will see the rifle Saturday so if I get it then I will be ordering sights.
Thanks
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Baldwin sights are also quite good.
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I have two sets of "Parts Unknown" made long range Soule tang and hooded front sights (one with windage adjustment and one without). One set is on a '74 Shiloh Sharps the other on a Rolling Block. From what I can tell, the "Parts Unknown" disappeared for a while and reemerged as "Red River Sights" and are available at Buffalo Arms (and maybe other suppliers). They have been very easy for me to operate and adjust for different ranges as well as being accurately returned to a previous range setting. Can't go wrong with the other sight groups mentioned by others here . . . YMMV.
Nice looking rifle BTW !!!
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Cases arrived this morning and I cast some 405 grain heads just in case. Not long now to the weekend.
Thanks, looked at all the site suggested, need the gun in hand now to see what it is like.
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Bought the gun and got it home, It is not a 45-90 as first discribed. The chamber is for a 45-60 which is strange for down here as not a common chambering, 45-70 would be more common.
As I have a 45-60 76 I have dies and moulds. What sight I put on it is now clear, it will not be a long range rifle so no point putting a tall post on it.I will try and get a Rough and ready sight for it and turn the gun into a hunting rifle set up.
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You could always have the chamber opened up to one of the longer cases.
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Yes I could but, will shoot this for awhile and see how it goes. Not that many long ranges available here for BP.
Any one know anything about the Remington 45-60 cartridge? It was used on the hunting model or economy model
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Yes I could but, will shoot this for awhile and see how it goes. Not that many long ranges available here for BP.
Any one know anything about the Remington 45-60 cartridge? It was used on the hunting model or economy model
Rim thickness MAY be less than that for a .45-70 case. Other than that I see no issues. Try a case short enough to FULLY chamber and you should be GTG.
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Case's made, the chamber is 1.94 on this new barrel.
I have a copy of a Remington catalogue which has a 45-60 cartridge mentioned. Is it the same as the Winchester round?
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My "current " issue of Cartridges of the World is the 3d edition, all yellow, tattered & frayed. It does not mention Remington in the entry on the .45-60, introduced by Winchester in 1880 for the M'76. However, it was common practice to add your name when chambering for a competitors round. If someone has a reference to rolling block chamberings, that might answer. My caution was about rim thickness, as few charts list that dimension. (Rim thickness for other '76 rounds seem thinner than the .45-70 gov't. rim.) Just make sure the block is fully closed before firing.
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Sir Charles, all good. Case fits chamber and breech closes fine.
As old cartridge names refer to calibre and powder weight, the bullet dia is not always a accurate discription ie: 38-40, the 45 in this Remington cartridge could be a .443 or bigger.
My gun has a new barrel and is a .456 bore from the slug bought with it. The chamber is longer than my 76 1.89 against 1.94 RRB. Which is strange.
Will keep looking for information.
Thanks
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Sorry for quality of picture.
The cartridge of interest is the one advertised with the Black Hills Model.
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I did some googling. Dangerous way to waste time! No news on the details of the ammo but the Balck Hills model in .45-60 with 28" round barrel was offered from 1877 to 1882.
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I have the details now thanks, case was 1.751 and is a very rare cartridge. Very few gun known to have survived. The info is in the New book on Remington Rolling blocks.
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Its hard to imagine how your rifle which is certainly not a black hills model wound up chambered in the rare 45-60. Perhaps a Black Hills barrel was used to rebarrel your action.
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Sorry for the delay in getting back, the gun has been sitting in the safe as I have been doing other projects. The barrel is new, why some one has used a short case I don't know. I have sorted a load with 4759 and a 298 grn LFN and it is showing promise. I believe this barrel suffers the same issues as the Italian made cartridge guns I have anything to do with when loading BP for them. They need a larger diameter projectile than used for Nitro. Typically a projectile straight from the mould lubed and loaded work.
Will get around to testing it with BP again in the new year.
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Mike; I try to avoid sizing cast bullets for rifles, if at all possible. If it will chamber try it. I apply SPG with my fingers and load to a length where the bullet just touches the leade. Don't size the cases excessivly, and just bell enough to start the bullet by hand before seating with the press. No need to crimp for a single shot rifle. Your mileage may vary, but only change one thing at the time when fine tuning the load. There I go again, trying to teach an 'Ol Timer new tricks. ;)
Merry Christmas to all Pards especilly those in the Aunty Podes.
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Sir Charles, less of the old ;D. I agree with all and will be implementing. I need the weather to cool down a bit before casting and heads. New Years day here and hot and sunny. Hope you have a great 2018.
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Sir Charles, less of the old ;D. I agree with all and will be implementing. I need the weather to cool down a bit before casting and heads. New Years day here and hot and sunny. Hope you have a great 2018.
How is the New Year, and the New Rifle working out, Mike?
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Bought this long range sight, any one no you made it.
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That looks like a Parts Unknown Borchardt type sight. Excellent sights, made in the Ukraine. I had one on a Sharps, Parts Unknown is now Red River, but the sight has not been imported since the troubles in the Ukraine.
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Drydock, thanks found them last night. Will fit it to the Remington and give it a go.
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Bought this long range sight, any one no you made it.
Yup . . . Parts Unknown long range tang sight (now Red River Sights). I have one on a Rolling Block and one on a 74 Sharps. Easy to adjust as well as being easily re-settable to previous ranges with accuracy . . . assuming you took notes or have a good memory. The hooded front sights are good, too. My RB has one w/ a spirit level and the Sharps has one w/ spirit level and is windage adjustable. I like both set-ups.
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The front sight ha the spirit level and can be set to return too zero. The ladder can be read from both sides which you don't see on many sights. I see the do a replacement for the old Lyman tang as well, which I would like to get.