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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Ten Wolves Fiveshooter on Yesterday at 09:25:27 PM »Excellent work Ruby, good stamping choice and well done all around, this holster a classy look to it..
Thanks for sharing
tEEn wOLVES
Thanks for sharing
tEEn wOLVES
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Yesterday at 05:03:32 PM »very nice, one of my favorite old west patterns, tastefully done Rube.
It's definitely a beautiful pattern.
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 02:55:49 PM »very nice, one of my favorite old west patterns, tastefully done Rube.
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Yesterday at 02:51:31 PM »Thanks yall.
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Johnny McCrae on Yesterday at 10:40:16 AM »Beautiful job! Thanks for sharing.
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Marshal Will Wingam on Yesterday at 08:36:27 AM »MIghty nice, Rube. Good work.
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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Yesterday at 08:27:54 AM »Latest Cheyenne style holster that I just finished up.
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by Mako on May 01, 2024, 05:47:35 PM »Mako, are you sure Colt actually marked any guns .44-40 in the 1800s? I'm aware of the Colt Frontier Six Shooter barrel markings and the little. 44CF mark sometimes found on the trigger guard, but I didn't think Colt marked any 1st gen SAAs .44-40. But I'm not terribly experienced and am mostly parroting those who know more.Jim,
That is a good question. I have seen Gen 1s marked as .44-40, but I actually don't know when they started marking them as .44-40. This is a Gen 1 below.
But, Colt's was bad about their caliber marking as we were discussing with the .38 Colt. If someone here is a SAA expert, please chime in. I have the two book set The Colt single action revolvers: A shop manual--volumes I & II by Jerry Kuhnhausen and small pocket serial number and feature identifier but I would not call myself a SAA expert.
This is why I enjoy these discussions I get schooled a lot.
~Mako
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by FriscoCounty on May 01, 2024, 04:58:10 PM »Winchester and W.C.F. were trademarked names. When UMC wanted to manufacture .38 W.C.F. and .44 W.C.F. cartridges they couldn't use the W.C.F. on the head stamp. Their solution was to use .44-40 or C.F.W. on the head stamp. In the catalog it was listed as 44 Winchester. The same for the .38 W.C.F. - .38-40 or 38 C.F.W headstamps and 38 Winchester in the catalog.
By the way the UMC 1882 catalog lists the loading for the 38 Winchester and 40 gr of BP and 160 gr bullet, The 44 Winchester was listed as 40 gr BP and a 200 gr bullet. So, the theory about 38-40 be in reverse is wrong.
As for why .44 and .38, I have never found a contemporary explanation. If I were to guess it would be that the .44 W.C.F was replacing the .44 Henry and they wanted people to associate the two. As for .38, I like the theory that .40-40 was easy to confuse with 44-40.
By the way the UMC 1882 catalog lists the loading for the 38 Winchester and 40 gr of BP and 160 gr bullet, The 44 Winchester was listed as 40 gr BP and a 200 gr bullet. So, the theory about 38-40 be in reverse is wrong.
As for why .44 and .38, I have never found a contemporary explanation. If I were to guess it would be that the .44 W.C.F was replacing the .44 Henry and they wanted people to associate the two. As for .38, I like the theory that .40-40 was easy to confuse with 44-40.
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