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Frontier Iron / Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Last post by U.S.M.R. on February 20, 2024, 01:47:41 PM »
I agree with the caliber marking confusion. They could have simply marked it .44 special and been done with it. As hard as reloading components are to get it’s nice to have an option. Given the slow decline of our shooting sport I am surprised that they made the American at all. While it is not perfect I am thankful to have the two I have. I enjoy them immensely.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Vihta VuoriN133 ?
« Last post by King Medallion on February 19, 2024, 09:57:26 PM »
Impressive!
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Vihta VuoriN133 ?
« Last post by Slamfire on February 19, 2024, 07:20:01 PM »
  Hey BRS , thank you , under the patch to the right my friend shot 5, 45-70's , we covered them when we started shooting the 40-60 Chappy .

  coffee's ready,  Hootmix.
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Frontier Iron / Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Last post by Black River Smith on February 19, 2024, 06:52:38 PM »

i can't locate my new 44 special brass right now but found 6 fired cases of different manufacture.  They fit the chambers fine.  Also, I checked the cylinder length and it's 1.556".

Thanks for verifying everything.  That is good to know.  But still seems silly for Uberti to change the barrel stamping unless something broke or the original long version was taking extra time.

Have fun shooting yours.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Vihta VuoriN133 ?
« Last post by Black River Smith on February 19, 2024, 06:49:02 PM »
Thanks for the info.  And nice shooting by your friend.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Vihta VuoriN133 ?
« Last post by Slamfire on February 19, 2024, 06:25:57 PM »
 Try to add pic. Taken w/ my flip phone.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Vihta VuoriN133 ?
« Last post by Slamfire on February 19, 2024, 05:33:04 PM »
    Took my "Range Box", for loading in the field and worked up 6 different loads using LEE dippers & a digital scale to verify my loads.
  Took a friend (fellow shooter) to do the shooting, i did the loading.

  40-60 chaparral w/ 26"- barrel, w/ vernier back sight, green dot front sight.
   Starline Brass 45-70 sized to 40-60 WCF.
   Brass OAL 1.885, w/ 403168 (Lyman) @ .214-.215gn. PC'd. OAL 2.260.
   Using Vihita Vuori N133.
   1st load 22.5gns= 1011 fps. ended up at 28.0gns for a 2 shot average of 1361 fps. "BUT" the thing that surprised both myself & my friend was they all shot to the same hole. We only shot 25yds to chro our loads. (3/4" c/c).

   My shooter shot his 45-70 RRB (one i had rebuilt) w/ N133 , and got the same results, 3 in one hole 2 on the edge of the 3 holes.
   To say we were impressed w/ our results would be a understatement, we both think we have found the powder for " our" rifles.
   YOUR millage may very, start low work up be safe.
 
   coffee's ready,  Hootmix.
   

 
   
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Shotguns / Re: Shotguns for Vintage Hunting
« Last post by Tronicst1 on February 19, 2024, 03:37:20 PM »
That's what the dogs are for.
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Frontier Iron / Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Last post by U.S.M.R. on February 19, 2024, 02:21:24 PM »
The original OOM Russian was simply marked Russian Model on the barrel rib with no other caliber marking. The Russian cartridge had about 100 feet per second and about 100 foot pounds of energy over the heel based American cartridge with less powder and a heavier bullet.
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Frontier Iron / Re: Cimarron's new American model!
« Last post by Lettow on February 19, 2024, 02:00:24 PM »
  Ditto...once fired .44 S&W Special cases fit. Cylinder face has four stamping's around the circumference. The new Uberti octagon barrel face logo, the serial number, 44COLT and on mine; IT2023. Not sure, but guess that would be a production date code possibly. Only Rome knows for sure.   
   Third match since it finally arrived in mid-December and still no misses.  ;D

The cylinder on mine is marked the same way but the code is IT2021.
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