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Title: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on November 04, 2005, 03:22:11 PM
I want a pseudo US Cav or military style holster rig but w/o the flaps.

No so much a slim jim but as much as a "western" styile.

Like what triple K does for theirs...(they just don't offer it in black)

(http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/21/01/79/i210179vr01.jpg)
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 05, 2005, 08:39:37 AM
Here are some ideas

The top one is a holster that was for sale not two long ago. 

The second is an original holster from Texas.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 05, 2005, 08:43:22 AM
Or you could always go with an old fashion slim jim.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 05, 2005, 08:52:03 AM
Other ideas
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 05, 2005, 08:53:27 AM
Here are holsters kind of like the 2nd Texas rig above.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 05, 2005, 08:55:27 AM
Here are my last two ideas (sorry Nolan Sackett).  I was writing fast and didn't finish my sentence.  I stole these two pictures from Nolan Sackett because I really admire his work.  It is excellent top notch stuff!  In black leather they would look excellent with a 1858 Remington stuffed inside.  I probably could never reproduce anything close to him. 
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: jiminy criquet on November 05, 2005, 09:14:24 AM
That old 2nd Texas rig is really cool.  With maybe a wider belt (2 1/2"), and a distressed black leather finish, that would look a lot like an old military rig converted to civilian use after the civil war.  Especially with 1858's.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Slowhand Bob on November 05, 2005, 03:32:54 PM
This looks similar to a holster sold by Cabellas.  Ive had several pards bring them to me wanting them 'Fixed', they bleed oil terribly and have no body.  When you here people wanting to know how to stiffen leather, this is the holster that is most often being referred to.  The design looks close to an early Mexican Loop, when they still had lots of California left in them.  The skirtless design with attached loop is less orriginal looking but most Slim Jim patterns would adapt easily to this style. 
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 06, 2005, 09:06:15 AM
I used one of those Cabela's holster for about a year and a half.  It worked out well for me for a $12 investment at the time.  They had them in black at one point in time.  You could always redye them black.  Now I think they are up to $16. 
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 06, 2005, 09:26:30 AM
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=6&styleId=20&partNum=HOLSTER-WB-R

here is the black one I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on November 07, 2005, 10:12:54 PM
Here is what I am thinking of...

(http://www.trackofthewolf.com/imgPart/holster-sj-l_1.jpg) (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/imgPart/holster-sj-l_2.jpg)

From track of the wolf as well...
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=6&styleId=20&partNum=HOLSTER-SJ-L (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partDetail.aspx?catId=1&subId=6&styleId=20&partNum=HOLSTER-SJ-L)

What I would like to do is get them in black along with a black US belt and cartridge holder...
(for a US Cav outfit idea I have...)

How would I go about turning "brown" into "black"? or is there a patern I could get that would approximate it?

I do like what Tommy Tornado has posted...
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on November 07, 2005, 10:26:05 PM
You can always dye them black, but the black would probably have a brown tint to it. If you can get a pattern for a military flap holster you  could make them without the flap.

Here's a link to a Walker 47 page with these type of holsters. I think they are all available in black. I've never dealt with them, but you can check around to see if anyone has had experience with them. http://www.walker47.com/w47/services/leat%20holsters.htm (http://www.walker47.com/w47/services/leat%20holsters.htm)
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 08, 2005, 07:03:22 PM
All you would need to do is get Black Dye, Deglazer, and wool dabers (I believe).  If you look around at S & S Firearms, Dixie Gun Works, Track of the Wolf, Ebay, etc. you could acquire the belt, holsters, and cartridge box.  I don't know for $14 how thick the leather will be but I would imagine it would work out.  Like I said the black one I used to own did until I sold it with some other holsters on ebay.  Your tastes in rigs follows mine.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Tommy tornado on November 08, 2005, 07:04:35 PM
The pattern packet by Will Grohmley for the '49 slim jim is about that pattern as well.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Coop Trawlaine on November 15, 2005, 08:13:22 PM
I want a pseudo US Cav or military style holster rig but w/o the flaps.

No so much a slim jim but as much as a "western" styile.

Like what triple K does for theirs...(they just don't offer it in black)

(http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/21/01/79/i210179vr01.jpg)

The holster you pictured is available in black through Wahmaker, and it is only about $17, you can check that out.   I bought two for my 58s and am happy with them.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Yankee John on November 15, 2005, 11:57:48 PM
Dakota-  I just got a pair of holsters from Springfield Slim of Whyte Leather Works and they are fabulous!

Here is his website:

http://www.whyteleatherworks.com/

One was made for my 5 1/2" barrel Remington,  but I know he can make it for a long barrel Remington too.  They run in the $50 range each and are well worth the few extra dollars.

Here is a pic of them;  the one for my Remington is on top.

John
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Pappy Hayes on November 17, 2005, 08:37:06 AM
I have used the holster pictured above since I started shooting about three years ago. It worked great and did not have any problems with bleeding. I have replaced it and my other cross draw holster with a nice pair of slim jims. Only because the go nice with my Open Top and RM Army. Forgive me if this is not the right place, but I do sell this holster in brown and black on my web page. I have a rolling advertisement on the CAS web site.

www.whetstonesmerc.com
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Coop Trawlaine on November 17, 2005, 09:13:40 AM
Pappy, you have Emule...hee haw hee haw
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on December 01, 2005, 08:38:24 PM
Pappy-

It may not be the "right" place, but, its appreciated just the same.

I will be ordering  a matching pair and belt from you here shortly.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Coop Trawlaine on December 01, 2005, 09:29:31 PM
Dakota, You won't be sorry, I have a pair from Pappy with belt and thinking of buying a second pair,,,nice holsters.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on December 02, 2005, 11:48:46 PM
Done...order placed!  ;D
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on December 09, 2005, 09:49:49 AM
Got them in the mail yesterday and the look pretty good! (just like my brown pair from Cabelas)

The belt works as well...its black, what more can you say?

I have my 58 Rems in the holsters right now.

How does one "wet" them and get them to form around it better?
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on December 09, 2005, 10:45:46 AM
Dip the whole holster in water for 10 seconds or so. The leather should be malleable. If not, soak them a little more. Then wrap a couple ziplocks around your guns and push them in. Work the gun a little to loosten the fit slightly. Some pards leave the gun in until the holster dries overnight. I leave it in for an hour, then take it out for an hour, alternating like that until the holster is dry. I like to set my holsters in the sun to speed the drying. I tried one in the over on low and trashed it so you don't need to go there.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Dakota Widowmaker on December 09, 2005, 03:26:53 PM
Well, I wrapped my pair of 1851s and my pair of 58 rems in plastic wrap REALLY well and then slid them into their respective holsters.

The Rems go into black holsters.
The Colts go into brown holsters.

We shall see what the results are like tomorrow.

Wish me luck!!! I'll post pics when they are done.

The 1851s are for Grampa to shoot this season. The Rems are for me. ;)
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on December 09, 2005, 06:00:58 PM
Cool, DW. Looking forward to seeing the results.
Title: Re: Looking for ideas for doing a rig for a pair of 1858 Rems...in black
Post by: E.R.Beaumont on December 09, 2005, 11:22:31 PM
Howdy Pards.

Dakota, Pard be sure to "bone" them,  use an antler tine, or a table knife handle and rub the leather into the gun.  Not only does this make the fit better, it compresses and compacts the leather and makes the holster stiffer.  Hand molding the holster will also let you widen the mouth and tighten the hold. Wet molded holsters will retain the arm better than non-fitted so are safer.

Regards, Beaumont