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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by russ1943 on Today at 03:36:17 PM »
It was the hand spring, got her to work stops at lthe  loading notch weak but stops.  Looking at all my Colt SAA 1873 type the springs are all different.  Does anyone know what the hand spring S/B and post a picture of it.

Again, thanks for all the help and have Happy 4th.
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STORM / Re: Possible acquisition
« Last post by Tuolumne Lawman on Today at 02:19:23 PM »
I actually am very glad they have the slightly beefier purpose built cylinders.  Less chance of a notch "blow out" happening.
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STORM / Re: Possible acquisition
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 01:41:20 PM »
...If one put a 51 or 61 grip on the 36 Caliber, it made reasonable copy of a 61. However, to my knowledge there were no original 1861 Richard's, as the Richard & Mason were then in production.

Right, but they made ONE 1861 Type 2 Richards, as shown in McDowell's book.
 

Dave Anderson did produce Type 1's as Adler's book shows and they were the BOMB.
ASM though AFF provided his raw parts. There also a very fine SAA produced, this raised the notice & ire of COLT and lawsuit was imposed. This and Dave's personal domestic issue was the death nell for American Frontier Firearms.

Adler says the sale of ASM to AWA in 2000 was why he lost his parts supply.  Probably a combination of things.
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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 01:31:09 PM »
If the gun cocks and locks up fine, I wouldn't mess with the hand.  It sounds like your hand spring is still too weak.
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STORM / Re: Possible acquisition
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 01:14:13 PM »
I figured they were Anderson's work; I have no doubt.
They are a fine pair  :)
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STORM / Re: Possible acquisition
« Last post by Quick Draw McGraw on Today at 12:36:54 PM »
Beautiful !
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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by russ1943 on Today at 11:44:48 AM »
Well no go it still spins in 1/2 cock, but now I hear a faint clicking, I guessing the hand is too short?

What do you think?
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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by russ1943 on Today at 11:37:55 AM »
Got it all back together, everything looked correct, so I just increased the tension on the hand spring, hope that will correct the problem.

Thanks for all the quick replies, greatly appreciate it.  Happy 4th of July to all! 

RJS
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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by russ1943 on Today at 11:33:24 AM »
Your assessment sounds right that it is probably a broken handspring.

As to caliber, 45 ACP and 45 Colt are both .452. I don't know about the bore on a Pietta but Ubertis I've seen work better with .454 soft lead bullets.

A 45 Colt cylinder will give you more options. Some will allow 45 Schofield rounds, as well. If you want even shorter cartridges, the Cowboy 45 Specials, which are the same length as 45 ACP, will work in 45 Colt chambers and I've heard at least one shooter say he uses .455 Webley in them. You can also shorten the 45 Colt cases to the length of 45 Schofield and still have historically correct rounds because in 1878 the US Government changed the official specifications for 45 Colt to the same length (1.1" instead of 1.285") so they would work in Schofields, too (the head stamping still read 45 Colt).

45 ACP chambering will only allow 45 ACP rounds.

I have lot of 45 ACP factory loads and once fired brass and only a few 45 LC. I must have sold all 45LC Brass or lost it in the move.  I just got a 2nd Generation Colt in 45 looks like I will be in the market for 45's.  So I assume the best option would be the 45 LC Conversion Cylinder?
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SCORRS / Re: 1858 Pieta NIB Cylinder in 1/2 cock
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 11:14:56 AM »
The bolt should not be involved at half-cock.  Broken bolt spring would allow the cylinder to spin with the hammer down or at full cock.
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