Article for Military Caliber lead bullet loads with Trail Boss : FOUND IT!

Started by Drydock, November 03, 2013, 05:25:07 PM

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Dalton Masterson

Awesome Pony. I need to load 30-06 and 7.62x54, so that should be a nice start. I shall commence to play in the loading room this weekend I hope.
DM
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Pitspitr

Quote from: pony express on February 19, 2014, 09:26:33 PM
Those are good to go, Dalton. WW1 Moisins are nearly identical to the pre-1900 ones. While the website seems to be having problems, the gist of the article was, they used the same load(9gr) for several milsurp calibers in .30-8mm with all the same powder charge, with basically standard weight for the caliber bullets, with good results.So what you use for a Krag, can be used in .303, 7.62X54,30-06,7.62 Argentine, 8MM Mauser or Lebel, etc.
The powder charge I use for .30-40 and .30-06 is also the same as I use in 45.70 and 50-70
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Drydock

The only limitation we place on Mosins is that they must be of the HEx reciever variant, with a straight stock.  Any straight stocked hex reciever Mosin is eligible for the GAF match.  For era of expansion we will also allow any Mosin carbine NOT designed for an attached bayonet, in liu of the rare and unobtainable M1907  (IE the M38, M91/38 or M91/59)
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Dalton Masterson

Sweet! Now to see if these 2 new additions to my safe are shooters. I even have a bayonet for it, as long as no crop dusters come by.
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Former Territorial Governor of the Platte Valley Gunslingers (Ret)
GAF (Bvt.) Major in command of Battalion of Western Nebraska
SUDDS 194--Double Duelist and proud of it!
RATS #65
SCORRS
Gunfighting Soot Lord from Nebrasky
44 spoke, and it sent lead and smoke, and 17 inches of flame.
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Drydock

Surplus article seems to be gone for good.  As indicated, it simply stated that 9 grains of Trail Boss provided a good starting load in .30 caliber bottleneck rifle cases starting with the .30-30 on up to the .30-06.  Velocitys were in the 1100-1200 fps range, with all sights set on "6" printing close to point of aim at 50 and 100 yards with 150 to 180 grain lead bullets, as cast from Lee molds, no gas checks.

http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf
Civilize them with a Krag . . .

pony express

I tried the "way back machine" with no luck. Maybe someone that is internet smarter than me could still find it.

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Drydock

Civilize them with a Krag . . .

Sir Charles deMouton-Black

NCOWS #1154, SCORRS, STORM, BROW, 1860 Henry, Dirty Rat 502, CHINOOK COUNTRY
THE SUBLYME & HOLY ORDER OF THE SOOT (SHOTS)
Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
without the Blood, Sweat, and Tears.
With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

Galen


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Pitspitr

Quote from: Galen on December 15, 2016, 09:38:58 AM
Anyone with a thought or two using trail boss in 6.5 Jap?
Fill the case to the base of the bullet, weigh the charge and multiply it by .7 that gives you your starting load. This data from: www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf

It apparently doesn't work well compressed.
I remain, Your Ob'd Servant,
Jerry M. "Pitspitr" Davenport
(Bvt.)Brigadier General Commanding,
Grand Army of the Frontier
BC/IT, Expert, Sharpshooter, Marksman, CC, SoM
NRA CRSO, RVWA IIT2; SASS ROI, ROII;
NRA Benefactor Life; AZSA Life; NCOWS Life

pony express

I tried it, had no problems with the powder, just that the Arisaka didn't like the bullets I tried. It was the so called "Cruise Missile" mold from Mid South. The flat nose would hang up and not feed from one side of the magazine, I think the left side. So the experiment was put off until I get a different, suitable, mold.

Sedalia Dave

The trailboss data has been moved.

On the Hodgdon website under the resources pull down select Reference Data. Then scroll down to the Reduced Rifle loads.

Trailboss Rifle Loads
https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/trail-boss-reduced-loads-r_p.pdf

Reduced rifle loads for H4895
https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf



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