greyhawk, yeah i'm sure the pin is buggered. That's why i'm getting another one. It came out hard. think it was staked in. As far as my extractor going into the barrel slot, i'm pretty sure it has always done this even when i 1st got the gun. and the problem seems to have started about 3 months ago. Also the extractor on my 1860 henry goes into the barrel slot too and that works right all the time. Only front of the extractor goes into the barrel cut out. The actual exactor cut out that hooks on to the case rim sits right on the case rim. If it were back more so the extractor didn't go into the barrel cut out then the extractor hook cut out would never be forward enough to reach the case rim. As far as messing the pin hole, hope not, but i won't know until i get that new pin.