"Essentially a 44 SPL. but .050" shorter with a smaller diameter rim (Same as 41 Mag). Originally used in Colt 1860 cartridge conversion revolvers. Use RCBS #30 (may require slight modification to clear extractor groove) or #21 shell holder, or Lee #3."


Looks like a typical shortened 44 SPL case - I wonder if it could be used with real heeled bullet 44 Colt? Interesting but I will keep reloading and shooting 44 Russian.

   Malamute 

Unfortunately, there is no "Date" when Uberti switched over to the New, Improved, Guaranteed to Fail Ladle.  The actual correct term for the part is "Ladle."  We are talking about rifles built the last 15 or so years.  Prior to the change, the Ladle was made with a welded cartridge stop.

Unfortunately, when Miroku copied the Uberti, they screwed up.  The Miroku ladle is just as apt to fail as the Uberti. 

It is either a DIY fix or a Gunsmith fix.

Ha, Well 

I'm a fan of the "None of The Above" camp (snicker snicker snort).  My conversions ALL sport barrels cut to the same length as the Ejector Housing.  Quite good looking they are too.  This is also true of my Open Top "Chameleons."  I added Barrel/Cylinder sets to my Open Tops, so as to chamber and shoot ALL three offered cartridges.  .38, .44 and .45 Schofield.  A disclaimer, when I acquired my Open Tops the .45 chambering was for 45 Schofield.  45 Colt wasn't offered at the time.

My Pietta 1860 .44 conversions and 1851 .44 conversions sport barrels Four and a Quarter inch length.  Balance is superb.

That's a pretty good length as well.

I am a 1860 Richard's guy. All mine have the long barrel except the R/M I recently bought. I really wanted Richard's  5 1/2 in .44 but aren't available. The 5 1//2 R/M is .45. Wish I hadn't rushed into buying it. I am now lookin to buy a Richard's  in .38 Richard's with Navy frame to create a 1861 conversion for my collection.

"Modern" .44 Colt dates to the mid 90s, when Armi San Marco offered the first of the Richards conversions chambered in the round,  (I still have one of these)  Uberti picked it up soon after ASM went under, offering it in their various open top/conversion revolvers.  The last few years they've simply ran the chambers further out to accommodate .44 spl brass.  Black Hills offered the caliber for nearly 20 years, only dropping it a couple of years ago, and Starline still makes the brass.  My ASM RIchards and both my Uberti .44 Open Tops will only accept the Colt length brass or shorter.  THe number of ASM/Uberti .44 Colts far exceeds the orginal 8000 or so of Colts production in the 1870s.