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Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« on: August 03, 2010, 03:22:01 PM »
It was suggested to me that it would be a good idea if we compiled a list of suppliers of clothing and equipment so that members would be able to find the items they need for our game. My list below has been "borrowed" from the now defunct General Miles Marching and Chowder Society. Their authenticy standards were extremely high so if you order from the list below you can be assured that your purchase will be of very high quality. I hope other members will add their own favorite suppliers

1. Forage Cap
1867-72 Pattern 1858, Type II or "Late War" issue (Uriah, Rademacher, Starbuck)
1872-91 Pattern 1872 (Starbuck)

2. Campaign Hat
1867-91 Any non-descript 19th century pattern black, tan or gray hat (Dirty Billy, T. Allen)
1867-75 M1858 "Hardee" hat, untrimmed (C. Daley, Dirty Billy, Rademacher)
1873-76 M1872 (Langham)
1877-84 M1876 (Burgess with vents from Lindmier)
1884-91 M1883 (Burgess, Langham)
1889-91 M1889 (Burgess)

3. Fatigue Blouse
1867-73 Pattern 1858 (C. Daley, C. Childs-kit, Goldberg, O'Dea)
1873-75 Pattern 1872' (Lindmier)
1875-83 Pattern 1874 (Lindmier, Gabriel)
1884-91 Pattern 1884 (Lindmier)

4. Shirt
1867-76 Pattern 1851 (Childs-kit, C. Daley Goldberg)
1875-83 Pattern 1874, grey flannel(Lindmier, Gabriel)
1876 Pattern 1875, blue flannel (Lindmier)
1877-84 Pattern 1877, collarless (Lindmier)
1883-91 Pattern 1883 (Lindmier)

5. Trousers
1867-77 Pattern 1861, Foot (Childs-kit, C. Daley, Goldberg, Stoney Brook, O'Dea, GAbriel or Past Patterns)
1876-84 Pattern 1876, issue (not available)
Pattern 1876, altered (Lindmier)
1884-87 Pattern 1884 (Lindmier)
1887-91 Pattern 1884, dark color (Lindmier)

6. Drawers
1867-91 Civilian Pattern, flannel(Lindmier, Childs "Osnaburg", Past Patterns, Eddins, Historic Clothiers)

7. Socks
1867-91 Grey or dark colored wool, without ribbing, plain tops (local source, or Mickey Black, Rose Elliot, or Evergreen Farms)

8. Shoes
1867-74 Civil War Bootees (MO Boot and Shoe)
1873-78 M1872 (MO Boot and Shoe)
1877-85 M1876 (MO Boot and Shoe)
1885-91 M1885 (MO Boot and Shoe)

9. Overcoat
1867-78 CW Foot (Childs-kit, C. Daley, Lindmier, Goldberg, Gabriel)
1873-80 Pattern 1873, double-cape (Childs kit, C. Daley, Lindmier)
1873-80 CW Mounted (Childs-kit, C. Daley, Lindmier)
1879-86 Pattern 1879 (Lindmier)
1884-91 Pattern 1884 (Lindmier)

10. Berlins
1867-91 White cotton (local)

11. Insignia Forage Cap
1867-72 M1851 Horn with 1 in. letter and 1 in. number (Burgess,S&S, Zaharias)
1872-75 M1872 "hunting horn", or 1 in. company letter (Burgess, S&S)
1875-76 M1875 crossed rifles with 1/2 letter in upper angle and 1/2 in. number in lower (Burgess, S&S)
1876-91 M1875 crossed rifles with 1/2 in. number in upper angle and 1/2 in. letter in lower angle (Burgess,
S&S)

12. Dress Coat.
1867-72. Pattern 1858 (Childs-kit,Historical Clothiers)
1872-85 Pattern 1872 (Lindmier)
1885-91 Pattern 1885 (Lindmier)

13. Dress Hat,
1867-72 M1858 "Hardee" (C. Daley, Dirty Billy, Rademacher)
1872-81 M1872 Shako
1881-91 M1881 Helmet (Burgess)

14. Suspenders
1867-91 Civilian pattern webbing or leather (C. Graham, Rademacher)


15. Poncho
1867-91 CW issue Rubber Blanket (Jarnagin, C. Daley, Fall Creek)


16. Waist Belt and Plate
1867-74 M1855 (Burgess, Jarnagin, I.C.)
1872-86 M1872 (I.C.)
1875-91 M1874 (I.C.)
1879-91 M1879 (I.C., Burgess)

17. Cartridge Box
1867-73 M1855 (Historical Clothier, MO Boot and Shoe, Jarnagin)
1872-79 M1872 "Hagner" No. l or No. 2 (I.C. )
1876-91 M1874 "McKeever" (I.C.)

18. Bayonet Scabbard
1867-74 M1855 (MO Boot and Shoe, Historical Clothier, Jarnagin)
1874-91 M1874 (I.C.)

19. Cartridge Belt
1867-77 Various soldier-made leather belts, (I.C., Wilder)
1877-83 M1876 (El Paso Saddlery, Wilder)
1881-91 M1881 "Mills" belt (Burgess Belt with buckle from S&S)

20. Haversack
1867-75 M1858 (Rademacher-"original finish", C. Daley, MO Boot and Shoe, Historical Clothier)
1873-75 M1872 (Wilder)
1875-83 M1874 (Wilder)
1881-91 M1878 (Wilder)

21. Canteen
1867-75 M1858, smoothside or bullseye Jarnagin)
1874-77 M1874, Type I (I.C.)
1876-81 M1874, Type II (I.C.)
1881-91 M1878 (I.C.)

22. Meat Can
1867-91 Civilian pattern, Frying Pan steel pan with rivited handle (F. Ellis)
1875-91 M1874 (original)

23. Knife
1867-75 Civilian pattern (Jarnagin, original)
1875-91 M1874 (original)

24. Fork
1867-75 Civilian Pattern (Jarnagin, original)
1875-91 M1874 (original)

25. Spoon
1867-75 Civilian pattern (Jarnagin, original)
1875-91 M1874 (original)

26. Cup
1867-76 Civil War Issue with wire handle (Butch Baker, D. Cunningham, Jarnagin)
1875-91 M1874, with "U.S." embossed on handle (Butch Baker, Jarnagin, Burgess)

27. Shelter Half
1867-91 M1862 (Stuckey, Rademacher)

28. Blanket
1867-76 M1858 (Childs, Wisc. Vet. Museum)
1874-77 M1873 (Thistle Hill)
1877-87 M1876 (Not Available)

29. Springfield 1867-69 M1866, .50-70, Second Allin
Rifle Conversion (Original)
1868-74 M1868, .50-70 (Original)
1874-77 M1873, .45-70 (Original)
1877-85 M1877-9, .45-70 (Original)
1885-91 M1884, .45::-70 (Original)
1889-91 M1888, .45-70, ramrod bayonet (Original)

30. Bayonet
1867-74 M1855 for .58 caliber rifles (Jarnagin, original)
1874-91 M1873 (original)

31. Rifle Sling
1867-72 M1855 for Springfield Rifles
(Historical Clothiers, I. C.)
1870-91 M1870 conversion (I.C., Wilder)
1887-91 M1886 with two-pronged hook Burgess)

32. Knapsack
1867-72 M1858 (Historical Clothier, Rademacher-"original finish", MO Boot and Shoe)
1872-74 M1872 Valise (not available)
1874-80 M1874 Clothing Bag (Wilder)
1880-91 M1880 Blanket Bag (not available)

33. Entrenching Tool
1872-80 M1872 Hagner Pattern (Dixie, Tool Legendary Arms )
1874-80 M1874 Trowel Bayonet (Dixie, Legendary Arms )
1881-91 M1880 Hunting Knife (Dixie, Legendary Arms)


ADDRESSES FOR SOURCES :

C & D Jarnagin
Box 1860
Corinth, MS 38834
(601) 287-4977

F. Burgess & Co.
Red Bank, NJ 07701
200 Pine Place
(908) 576-1624

Greg Starbuck
P. 0. Box 30948 50
Savannah, GA 31410
(912) 897-1027
 
Connie Lindmier Historic Clothiers
South Pass Main Street
South Pass City, WY 82520
(307) 332-6810 evenings

S & S Firearms
74-11 Myrtle Ave.
Glendale, NY 11385
(718) 497-1100

Mark Hubbs
105 Madison Point
Madison, AL 37538
(205) 464-9751

El Paso Saddlery
P. 0. Box 27194
El Paso, TX 79926
(915) 544-2233

Charles Childs (Country Cloth)
13797-C Georgetown st.
Paris, OH 44669
(216) 862-3307

Nicholas Sekela
Historical Clothiers
P. 0. Box 28
Butler, NJ 07405
(201) 283-0800

Don Rademacher
Artifakes
1608 W. Pearl st.
Stevens Point, WI
(715) 341-5893

John Wedeward
1900 Pleasant View
Sthoughton, WI 53589
 
Rose Elliot
908 Stonehenge Ave.
Charlottesville, VA 22901
(608) 873-503

Uriah Cap & Clothier
Box 93, old Rt. 30
McKnightstown, PA 17343
(717) 337-3929

I.C. Mercantile
122 E. Jewel St.
Republic, MO 65738
(417) 732-8'495 {after 6 pm, CST}

John A. Zaharias
P. 0. Box 31152
St. Louis, MO 63131

Mickey Black
6378 U.S. 601
Salisbury, NC 28144
(314) 966-2829

Tom Wilder
RR 1, Box 79
Williston, ND 58801
(701) 572-5087

Past Patterns
Richmond IN

A. J. Fulks
Fall Creek Sutler
P. 0. Box 92
Whitestown, IN 46075
(317) 769-5355
 
 Robert Serio
Missouri Boot and Shoe
Rt. 7, Box 207
Neosho, MO 64850
(417) 451-6100

Chris Graham
1420 E. Vineyard Road
Hayesville, NC 28904
(801) 467-2343

Goldberg Textiles
2495 South Alden St.
Salt Lake City, Utah 84106

Dennis Reen
2301 Mt. Ephriam Road
Adamstown, MD 21710
(301) 696-1587

Tom Langham
P. 0. Box 903
Fort Davis, Texas 79734

Thistle Hill
6 Railroad Ave.
P. 0. Box 102
Cherry Valley, NY 13320 (908) 424-8636

Weavers Legendary Arms
P. 0. Box 299
Dunellen, NJ 08812

Frank Ellis
3031 Possum Trot Road
Greenbrier, TN 37073
(615) 643-4842

Tim Allen
1429 Becket Road
Eldersburg, MD 21784
(410) 549-5145

t. O'Dea and Co.
Mike Montgomery
P. 0. Box 3785
Camp Verde, AZ 86322
(815) 438-6747

Brian Baird
10261 Ridge Road
Rock Falls, IL 61071
(520) 567-0007

Wendy Osman
24 EilIot-Ave South
Minneapolis, MN 55417
(612) 823-4009

Stoney Brook Historical
Chris Sullivan
50 Porreca Drive
Milville, NJ 08332
(609) 825-7307

Wisconsin Veteran's Museum
ATTN: Museum Store
30 Mifflin St.
Madison, WI 53707 (410) 775-1865

Dirty Billy's Hats
7574 Middleburg Road
Detour, MD 21757
(608) 266-1860

Evergreen Acres Farm
Jack and Margie Siefert
N2784 Camp Eiversite
Sheboygan Falls, WI 53085
(402) 422-6214

Christopher Daley
P. 0. Box 402
Burkittsville, MD 21718
(414) 564-3101 {evenings}


"B" List sources:

Fraizer Bros.

Uniforms of Antiquity

Regimental Quartermaster

Quartermaster Shop



Reference List

The U.S. Army in the West (1870-1880) By Douglas McChristian

More Army Blue By John P. Langellier

The Frontier Scout and Buffalo Hunter’s Sketch Book by James A. Hanson

All He Could Carry (US Army Infantry Equipment 1839-1910) by Stephen J. Allie

American Military Belts and Related Equipments by R. Stephen Dorsey


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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 09:39:35 PM »
Pitspitr

Check out Percival Custom Leather (percivalcustomleather.com)

This guy makes period military holsters (Civil war, Indian Wars etc) McClellan saddles and tack as well as a host of other associated appurtenances.

His quality and attention to detail is unsurpassed. Each item is handmade by Paul aka Trooper Smith.

In my 50 years of wearing  gunleather, I have never seen better.
I use his competition holsters for my SASS matches.

Vaya con Dios

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 01:48:01 AM »
VERY helpful information and in a very organized and useful format.
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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2011, 10:13:53 AM »
10. Berlins
1867-91 White cotton (local)

Excuse my ignorance, but what are Berlins?  Some kind of undergarment?

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2011, 08:04:13 PM »
Gloves
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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 12:30:39 PM »
Gloves
Specifically white cotton dress gloves to be worn with the dress uniform. When I was a little boy my mom used to wear gloves that were very similar to Berlins to church. See the General's avitar or the picture of me, Col. Major Matt Lewis and Col.Diamond in the Iron Trooper thread.
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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2011, 03:21:10 AM »
Pitspitr, Thanks for the list. I will print this off when I get a new printer.
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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 01:32:42 PM »
Any shako supplier besides Dirty Bill?
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 05:29:21 PM »
http://hatcrafters.com/     has a lot of the basic forms,  you can search around for the accoutrements

www.ssfirearms.com     has many of the add ons.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 01:39:44 PM »
????????????????? 1875 Shako  ????????????????  anyone besides Dirty Billy ???????????????????????????
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2012, 04:49:36 PM »
Call (on the actual telephone) Buck at Coon Creek Old West.  If anyone would know, he would.
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« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2013, 04:17:12 PM »
!875 Shako sources?
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2013, 10:08:42 PM »
Depends on how accurate a copy you want. Hat Crafters makes a fakey one, but Dirty Billy is the only quality copy I'm aware of,
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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2018, 01:54:53 PM »
The Grand Army of the Frontier is now a What Price Glory affiliate. By using the following link when you shop What Price Glory the GAF will get a small percentage of the referral to help support the Grand Muster.


http://onlinemilitaria.net/shopaff.asp?affid=1576


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Re: Clothing and Equipment Suppliers
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2021, 03:04:05 PM »
Mainstream quality but S&S Firearms carry Indian Wars blouses in 1874 and 1880 versions. They also carry a couple different versions of trousers. Also have the brown duck trousers. Honestly anything up to the mid 70's. One could get away with CW era clothing. Maybe a mix of civilian gear for a field impression. Classified sections on CW message boards might yield some decent stuff. I can't imagine anyone not being aware of it. The Authentic Campaigner has some really nice gear pass through also. You just have to decide where your budget, comfort level for authenticity and what your peers are doing, mesh together.
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