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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #260 on: April 18, 2023, 04:47:17 PM »
Word is Goex will be shipping within the next month or so.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #261 on: April 24, 2023, 05:54:58 PM »
I have had several original 76's in .50 Express.  My load is with a lead bullet cast from an original Winchester bullet mold.  It comes out at .513 and I size to .512 (bore diameter).  Shoots with awesome accuracy using resized .348 brass and 80 grains of 2f black.  Just my opinion.

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #262 on: April 24, 2023, 05:59:37 PM »
I have had several original 76's in .50 Express.  My load is with a lead bullet cast from an original Winchester bullet mold.  It comes out at .513 and I size to .512 (bore diameter).  Shoots with awesome accuracy using resized .348 brass and 80 grains of 2f black.  Just my opinion.

Bore diameter .512"? What was the groove diameter?  That soft bullet must bump up nicely.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #263 on: January 12, 2024, 07:01:12 AM »
Please help! Very clumsy trying to attach photo of calipers and slug

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #264 on: January 12, 2024, 07:10:42 AM »
Whew! Finally got an acceptably sized photo of my dilemma: a rather larger slug size than those I’ve seen mentioned…all I can think to do is to get accurate to increase the size of a mold to .518 and then get a .517 sizer.
Any advice/criticism would be greatly appreciated!
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DB

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #265 on: January 12, 2024, 08:31:32 AM »
Whew! Finally got an acceptably sized photo of my dilemma: a rather larger slug size than those I’ve seen mentioned…all I can think to do is to get accurate to increase the size of a mold to .518 and then get a .517 sizer.
Any advice/criticism would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
DB

What is the groove size of your rifle?
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #266 on: January 13, 2024, 10:15:17 AM »
Howdy NDNCHF,
THANKS for the question! ( I’m beginning to think I need a machine shop to operate this rifle!!)
Long Answer: I got a Hornady musket ball .530 and a wood dowel and tapped on the dowel with a hammer until the ball flattened out and then a chunk went down the barrel..said chunk completely filled the bore and dropped into the action with a good print.. I measured all the raised “stripes” several times around…the most repetitive reading I got was .5165 with my new digital caliper. If there is a better method then I would definitely want to employ that!
Thanks Again,
DB

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #267 on: January 13, 2024, 10:38:18 AM »
Ok. A micrometer is more accurate than a caliper, but that gets you close. Maybe I missed it, but what size are your bullets dropping from the mold?  If a couple thousandths undersize, a soft alloy and black powder may very well bump them up to fill the grooves. Its worth a try before opening up the mold.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #268 on: January 13, 2024, 06:51:53 PM »
Second the Micrometer measurement, and not a Chinese one.  Also sounds like you have a tight spot in the bore if slug dropped to breech?

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #269 on: January 13, 2024, 07:07:29 PM »
Thanks KW!
Sorry for the late response. I probably shouldn’t have been so cavalier with my wording…when the dowel had pushed the slug into the chamber it dropped into the brass carrier. I’ll get the best caliper I can, and then start on the rest of the shop..looks like I’ll need it!!
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #270 on: January 13, 2024, 07:20:01 PM »
Whoops I meant Micrometer!

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #271 on: January 21, 2024, 09:56:19 PM »
 ALCON,
Trying to post a target piccie from todays range trip…apologies for my less than stellar marksmanship :-\
My objective was to see how well these .508 Steinel projectiles worked in my .516 Presidio..
Well, the gun shoots way high…at 100 yards an x ring aimpoint was off the frame so I had to try to hold below the 6 o’clock position…
Any observations would be much appreciated (other than sight alignment, sight picture, trigger squeeze, BRASS, spot weld, more range time, etc ;D )
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #272 on: January 21, 2024, 10:17:41 PM »
 DB again,
For what it’s worth, here’s a target from yesterday, an 8 inch roundel at 50 yards…previous post was about 18 inch roundel at 100 yards, both off a bench with a large Caldwell bag
Pretty messy background, but the big holes above and below are me bracketing the target trying to understand how high the gun shoots ???
To reiterate, I’m just trying to determine whether these .508 projos are just tumbling out of this .516 bore
Thanks,
DB

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #273 on: January 21, 2024, 10:22:52 PM »
I would not waste any more precious primers on these bullets. FWIW, I replaced my Presidio front sight with a Marbles 41W to get to print on paper at 50 yards. I don't  shoot at 100 yards till I get something going at 50 first, but that's me.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #274 on: January 22, 2024, 03:45:50 AM »
I agree. You really need to get groove size bullets.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #275 on: January 22, 2024, 04:20:20 AM »
I'm actually surprised they aren't tumbling as is.
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #276 on: January 22, 2024, 10:35:55 AM »
Gents,
THANKS for the valuable feedback!!
Despite these accuracy issues it is SO MUCH FUN to make these two rifles and my top break pistols go bang!!!!! I know I have to fix the ammo…..
Semper Fi,
DB

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #277 on: January 22, 2024, 01:00:32 PM »
Drummer Boy again…
Please be patient with my naïveté but is it actually possible to pull the projectile off a live round and replace that bullet with a suitable bullet…keeping the primer propellant and brass intact???

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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #278 on: January 22, 2024, 01:32:02 PM »
Sure, very easy, if you have an inertia puller. That being the kind that looks like a hammer, putting the shell in one side with the screwable cap, whack it on the floor a couple times till said bullet comes free. Then carefully dump out the bullet and powder, rebell the shell, recharge the shell, and put in a proper sized boolit. With practice,  one can tap that bullet out of the shell right up to the base and pull the bullet off without powder spillage, but it takes practice. Clear as mud, yes?
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Re: Loading Data for the 50/95WCF
« Reply #279 on: January 22, 2024, 07:16:33 PM »
You’re the MAN, King!! Or is it You’re the KING, man! BTW I’m still working on that Tensas Parish hog hunt!!
In other news, I have another barrel coming from Cimarron!
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