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Picked up a new Betsy
« on: October 08, 2021, 11:02:25 PM »
I did some trading a while back and ended up with an H&R trapdoor officer’s model.  It took a while to get here, but I really like it.  It’s very comfortable and the sight picture is excellent.  Can’t wait to get out and shoot it.  The locking latch on these have a reputation for being problematic, but this one is tight.  It came from a friend who has had it from new. 

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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2021, 05:45:41 AM »
That's a beauty - congrats. I seem to recall reading about a mod to correct or improve the latch issue on these. I don't recall the details, but it would be worth looking into. Safety first  :)
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2021, 06:23:05 AM »
Most of the latch problems come from people who don't know how to shoot them. I have two one had to be repaired because the dummy who owned it before me would press down on the latch lever to close it and stripped the set screws.
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2021, 06:47:04 AM »
I had the Cavalry carbine model, never any issue with the latch....

I had happened on it consigned to an LGS in Franklin, NC. and got it for $300 , I sold years later ( one of , on a list I wished I had not let go )
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2021, 08:47:50 AM »
The latch can be a problem, because instead of sticking with the original design (the thumb piece pressed on to a square shaft), they used a set screw on a round shaft.  Not too hard to fix so it doesn't come apart though.  You may never have a problem with it, largely depending on how much you use it.  If you use it for GAF shooting, it may well need to be fixed.  Neat carbines!
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 10:18:15 AM »
I always admired the OM Springfields.  Congrats to the OP on the acquisition.

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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2021, 06:05:21 AM »
Most of the latch problems come from people who don't know how to shoot them. I have two one had to be repaired because the dummy who owned it before me would press down on the latch lever to close it and stripped the set screws.
Not all the problems are operator error.


The latch can be a problem, because instead of sticking with the original design (the thumb piece pressed on to a square shaft), they used a set screw on a round shaft.  Not too hard to fix so it doesn't come apart though.  You may never have a problem with it, largely depending on how much you use it. If you use it for GAF shooting, it may well need to be fixed.  Neat carbines!
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 10:51:50 AM »
Another potential problem with these is some of the early ones had the cams machined with the wrong geometry.  But those should have been corrected long ago.  Have always wanted one of the Officers models.  Check the set screw frequently.  If it ever comes loose,  dimple the shaft then locktite the dang screw in.
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2021, 12:08:26 PM »
On mine the shaft actually broke away from the thumb piece. When I got the replacement I applied Drydock's fix and have had no more problems with it.

Check the set screw frequently.  If it ever comes loose,  dimple the shaft then locktite the dang screw in.
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2021, 06:39:05 PM »
I blame everyone here:  Walking thru a small gunshop in a St Louis suburb today, and there sits an H&R Officers Model midst the black rifles.  Pristine condition, reasonable price, and a quarterly safety bonus in the account. 

Should make a nice skirmish rifle.
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2021, 11:52:17 PM »
Ha!  We are all enablers when it comes to buying guns.  I am busy planning modifications to mine to make it a bit closer to the original.  Installing a proper/original rear barrel sight, cutting a grove in the hinge so you can see it, finding a beach combination front sight, and fixing a couple of little things.  I am also looking at installing a single set trigger (parts are available).  It might be fun to “de-farb” it by taking off some of the markings.  It’s good to have a project. 

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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #12 on: Today at 09:40:33 AM »
Standard 70 grain loads with the 405gr bullet off the bench will loosen your fillings. The 500 gr load is simply painful.

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Re: Picked up a new Betsy
« Reply #13 on: Today at 10:31:38 AM »
I have a 45-55 (405) carbine load that I load for my 1886 carbine that is pleasant to shoot.  I think I will stick with that.  I have a sharps 45-90 if I want more zip. 

 

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