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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2021, 03:09:13 PM »
I can't fit any of the .45 cartridges in my OMV's. Of course, the reason for that is that mine are .44-40 and .44 Mangle-em cylinders (interchangeable)!  :P  ::)
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Re: 45 Cowboy special?
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2021, 03:05:36 PM »
:)  Hey Treebeard   ;)

A thought.  If your not wrapped around the "Authentic" axel, there is an even better option.  Cowboy 45 Special.  Cute Lil cartridge.  Absolutely perfect for reduced smokeless (gag, choke, puke) loading and absolutely the Beez Kneez for BP (what it was designed for).  160Gr bullets are nice indeed and 130Gr Barnstormer bullets are just SUPERB!!  Just a Thought in passing.  Same Rim diameter as 45 Colt.

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Coffinmaker—- so can 45 Cowboy special be loaded with 45 Colt?? Does it need a special crimp die?? Schofield’’s work in my particular OMV’s but the 45CS does intrigue me.

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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2021, 07:51:21 AM »
most likely you would not be able to crimp them. All other operations should work. My .45 Colt dies won't crimp Schofield rounds, I use a .45ACP die for them. That should work for the CS cases, since it's basically a rimmed .45ACP.
, but without the extra thick rim of the "Auto rim" version.

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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2021, 09:37:03 AM »
My one Dillon is set up for 45acp all the time, i just swap the shell plate out and do autorim. I do use an old lee seater die as it’s easy to adjust if i change bullets.
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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2021, 02:46:43 PM »
My fairly new RCBS "Cowboy" dies would not crimp my 45 S&W cases, despite being labeled as suitable for both. My only 45 ACP dies are in my SDB Dillion so that isn't an answer.

Fortunately I have an older (25-30 years) set of 45 Colt dies on the back one loading bench. I got out the seating die and tried it with no success, so...I clamped it in my vice upside down and with a file dressed off about 1/8"-3/16" off the bottom of the die. It now ends right about where the outside threads start so it still screws into the press easily. I also took a round file and put a little more taper to the inside of the die mouth as I had filed most of its factory taper away.

The modified (shortened) seating and crimping die works perfectly with the 45 S&W cases so I marked the die box as "45 S&W" and now use it for that cartridge exclusively. The newer "Cowboy" die set is reserved for the 45 Colt.

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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2021, 06:12:13 PM »
Dave, if i bought a set of rcbs cowboy dies in 45 colt that would not work for 45 schofield,,l would get my money back. Schofield is 98% of my shooting in 45, and my rcbs cowboy dies work perfectly.

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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2021, 10:00:32 AM »

 :)  BATTER UP !!!   ;)

OK boys and girls, I are UP again.  Firstest, I agree with "others" if my 45 Colt dies won't crimp 45 Schofield, I would be talking harsh with the manufacturer.

Treebeard  :D  And now for Treebeard's questions.  First, there are a bundle of folks out there claiming to "crimp" Cowboy 45 Special with a 45 ACP crimp die, a Taper crimp isn't the "best" method.  A separate crimp dies is recommended.  My personal recommendation is a Redding 45 Auto Rim Crimp die.  Applies a wonderful roll crimp to C45S.  All of the other loading operations can be done with standard 45 Colt dies.  Whoops!! Wait !!  Forgot bullet seating.  Short stubby little case.  I use a 45 ACP seater die with the plug turned around (Different bullet shape).  the other bugaboo is the resize die.  An ACP resize die imparts a slight taper to the case.  Cheats blow-by that does.

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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2021, 03:27:17 PM »
If I got this right, your Schofield crimp/seat dies are too long to crimp the brass?
Can you cut it down?
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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2021, 12:56:00 AM »
I might still have a 45 AR seat/crimp die in my box o' misc dies--want to give it a try before shortening a die?
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Re: 45 Schofield in 45 Colt
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2021, 08:38:20 AM »
I’ve shortened dies on a bench belt sander for reloading projects. Don’t mess up a good one though, use a lee.
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