Quality of Uberti 1873 revolvers of early 2000's year build ?

Started by fortyshooter, November 15, 2023, 08:23:45 AM

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fortyshooter

Local gun shop has an older Uberti 1873 type revolver in 44 Magnum that appears to be from the early 2000's.  Any issues with these early ones?

Coffinmaker


:) Forty  ;)

My only involvement with the Uberti 44 Mag has been to do action work on a few.  I didn't particularly care for them.  Slightly larger than regular replicants to provide some "beef" for the 44 Mag.  I would NOT suggest pushing one past normal factory 44 Mag ammunition.  They are NOT beefy ala Ruger.

If it's unmolested, it'll need some judicious rubbin-n-buffin and some spring changing.

45 Dragoon

According to Brian Pearce (Handloader magazine), Uberti's are fine with "muscular" (+p) loads while the Pietta versions are not. His articles on shooting +p45C loads include the Cattleman series.
My own Pietta made '73 Frontier  "misaligned" itself with just 5 practice rounds of 45acp +p's !! The Uberti '60 with the then brand new 45acp conversion cylinder  eats it like candy!!
  As for the '73, I had to clearance for "newfound" headspace to use the 45C cylinder again. 

I'll be testing some "beefier" loads in the Pietta '58 with 45C conversion cylinder  ( Kirst). The top strap on the '58 is somewhat thicker and wider than the '73 Pietta top strap.
Just so ya know, the Dragoons ( with Gated conversions and set up correctly) handle  "Zippy" loads with ease!!

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Coffinmaker


:) Ah Mike  ;)

Ah well, the OP is asking about an earlier build UBERTI in 44Mag.  Not .45 Colt.  Slightly different animals and not real related to Pietta.

Most of the After-Market and even the "Big Two" have been hesitant to provide cylinders chambered for .45 ACP as they suspect folks will immediately go for +P ammunition or hand load inappropriately hot loads.

Most folks have learned the lesson about real hot 45 Colt by summarily disassembling their Replicants with real heavy reloads (+p and above).

45 Dragoon

Yap, sounded like he was asking more about the "brand" than the caliber. 
Just telling him what my experience has been.
I understand anybody could overcharge any cartridge so .  .  . 
Knowing what the cylinder can handle is the best part of the equation. Since that is a known, I'm just testing the platforms they're in .  .  .

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RoyceP

Personally if I wanted a 44 Magnum single action I would save my money until the right Ruger came along.

fortyshooter

I was just curious about it and decided to pass on it as I already have a nice Ruger 44 Mag. SBH 7.5 inch barrel. Found that one several years ago laying in the back of the used gun counter.

Niederlander

Yep, if you want a 7 1/2" .44 Mag, I'd recommend finding an old Super Blackhawk 3 screw.  Those are pretty hard to beat, although I don't care for the grip.  I like the regular grip better.
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Coffinmaker


:) Hey All  ;)

Just to muddy the waters . . again.  In those halcyon days of my sordid past, when I was more "go" than smart, I was innocently pushing 265Gr Keith type SWC out of my 4-n-5/8 Ruger Blackhawk as fast as 1550 FPS.  The gun wasn't fun to shoot at all.

And then a friend at the range, snuck a couple of my rounds and stuck 'em in his Colt.  Promptly disassembled the Colt.  Big Boomba.  Lucky, he suffered nothing more than a numb hand.

I have become much more conservative.  I do not however, have any fear of 45 ACP +P in my 45 ACP Kirst Cylinder.

Niederlander

Never tried to push mine that hard. I never liked shooting my first S & W Model 29 with full power Magnum rounds.  It's supposed to be fun, and those weren't!
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Quote from: fortyshooter on November 16, 2023, 05:57:13 PM
I was just curious about it and decided to pass on it as I already have a nice Ruger 44 Mag. SBH 7.5 inch barrel. Found that one several years ago laying in the back of the used gun counter.

Well, the uberti may nit be the tank a ruger or virgina dragoon may be but would be a dandy candidate to make into a lughter weight "mountain gun".

I  had the .44 mag super blackhawk and currently have the overbuilt .44 mag virginia dragoons.. but they are neithger light nor handy.

Dragging all that weight around on the belt gets old after one exceeds 13 lustrum of age. Thus I picked up an old but reliable Herters .44 mag project pistol cheap, and started shaving weight off of it. Cut it to 4 5/8 , replaced the oversized steel grip frame with an aluminum Ruger blackhawk gripframe, and butchered rubber pachmeyers to fit.

I must dig it out, weigh it, and post photos. I am still doing a rust blue, and it is coming out rather nicely.

The Uberti even starts out light and can be made lighter for a good carry piece that handles factory .44 mag loads. It will easily handle anything except an angry grizz or hungry moose.

Or is it a hungry grizzly and an angry moose.?

I had a moose chase me once, something I would rather not repeat.

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:) Oh Boy  ;)

Cheeseburger with Bacon??  Now there is a proper Gourmet Yum Yum for hyjacking a thread you betcha.  Oh Yum.  Where was I ??

Oy I remember.  Moose.  Moose = Bigger Dumber Deer.  Was my experience, the only way one was injured by a Moose is if you happen to be standing in the direction the Moose starts running when startled or frightened.  Moose also have about zero depth perception.

And my woodsy carry gun was the afore mentioned Ruger Blackhawk with those Gaud Awful heavy reloads.  I also forgot to mention, the only way to control that gun was with big finger groove oversize stocks.  But . . . . it still hurt like hell to shoot.

Graveyard Jack

The Callahan is a really nice sixgun with a really stupid name. It's only a wee bit larger than the SAA and the cylinder is too short for heavy bullets. I agree with Coffinmaker, it's not the gun to push your luck with. So I treat it as I do my S&W, as a slightly stronger .44 Special.

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LongWalker

Quote from: Coffinmaker on November 18, 2023, 08:55:35 AM
Oy I remember.  Moose.  Moose = Bigger Dumber Deer.  Was my experience, the only way one was injured by a Moose is if you happen to be standing in the direction the Moose starts running when startled or frightened. 
Now ya tell me.  Would have been nice to know when 13-year-old me was fly-fishing and got startled by a moose facing him.  I did what any kid would do--pegged him with a rock . . . didn't go well, plus he broke my flyrod. 

I like to think I shot the same moose that fall with my g-grandfather's 38-55. 
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RRio

Quote from: CraigC on December 15, 2023, 09:20:23 AM
The Callahan is a really nice sixgun with a really stupid name. It's only a wee bit larger than the SAA and the cylinder is too short for heavy bullets. I agree with Coffinmaker, it's not the gun to push your luck with. So I treat it as I do my S&W, as a slightly stronger .44 Special.


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