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USFA CSS / Re: Rodeo II deal?
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 02:06:31 PM »
Well, the situation has changed.  First of all, after having the guns at a recent swapmeet, the owner did some more investigating and discovered his price was low, so now they are $2600 for the pair.  He told me he would still honor the original price to me, but the other thing is that I was mistaken about the caliber - they are not .38's, they are .44 Special.  And while I love .44 Special, I already have a pair of Colt's which I don't shoot that much any more, plus several Uberti guns in that caliber, so I shall be passing on these.  He is taking them to the SASS State match on Memorial day weekend, and if he doesn't sell there will take to a local shop for consignment.
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 02:00:55 PM »
1. Yes, except for the step in the .44 frame.

2. right

3. Yes - only the barrel assemblies differ.

4. I don't know and have no ASM nor any percussion guns to compare.  Let me know if you would like any specific measurement.

5. Yes, as the larger part of the .44 cylinder is only 0.1" bigger than the .38.  I guess my holsters are loose enough - none were made specifically for these guns. My '51 conversions fit in any of my SAA holsters, but these Type II's only fit in 4 of them, due to the larger barrel underlug area.  I might be able to feel a tiny bit more resistance pulling the .44 pistol from one or two of the holsters, but it is subtle.
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The Winchester Model 1873 / Re: Recreating the original .32WCF loading
« Last post by U.S.M.R. on Today at 01:57:09 PM »
The nice thing about shooting.32-20 is that it’s economical. Also the brass uses small pistol primers which are easy to get.
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1911 & Wild Bunch Shooting / Re: Wild Bunch Naval uniform
« Last post by Drydock on Today at 01:54:37 PM »
Most USN landing parties went ashore in undress whites. What price glory often has excellent sets of this uniform, San Francisco Hat makes a correct pre 1922 white hat.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: Best accuracy you have obtained from a Model 1876?
« Last post by Slamfire on Today at 01:34:15 PM »
I do enjoy rereading older threads. Greyhawk, that is some very good shooting and i (myself) also shoot from the mag. as i think the powder placement (in loaded rounds) is more even verses single loading. It seems to make Extreme Spread more even and FPS closer.


  coffee's ready,  Hootmix.
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USFA CSS / Re: 38/40 serial number
« Last post by King Medallion on Today at 01:24:07 PM »
Looking around and found a pre-war 38/40, serial #113840. That should, from what I've been reading, be an all US parts gun?
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Frontier Iron / Re: S&W single actions and leather
« Last post by RattlesnakeJack on Today at 01:11:57 PM »
Quote from: Cheyenne Logan on Today at 12:55:00 PM
Really like that holster! Great job!! :D
Thanks … it turned out reasonably well.
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by Mako on Today at 01:05:25 PM »
Abilene,
I'm starting to understand why this is so confusing.  I have a few questions:

  • In the picture you show both a .44 and a .38 caliber conversion.  Are the frame sizes the same for both?  In other words if you took the cylinder and barrel from the .38 could you put them on the .44 frame?  I don't mean perfect pin alignment for the studs on the frame to the barrel for instance, but are they basically the same?
  • I also don't mean the length off the cylinder. You said those were different.
  • Are the frames for the Richard-Mason .44 and .45 Conversions the same as the .44 and .45 Richards Type 2 Frames?
  • Are the frames for the .38 Spl Richards Type 2  conversions basically the same size as my Armi San Marco.  That is basically true to size 1851 or 1860 Percussion frame but in .38 caliber?
  • Except for the slightly larger stepped diameter of your .44 revolver, will it fit in the same holster as your .38?  What if you swapped the cylinder, would it fit?
~Mako
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Frontier Iron / Re: S&W single actions and leather
« Last post by Cheyenne Logan on Today at 12:55:00 PM »
Really like that holster! Great job!! :D


Quote from: RattlesnakeJack on August 25, 2022, 10:43:42 PM
Love the revolvers and the gun leather!

When I aquired my one and only S&W top break (a Uberti Russian Model) for use in conjunction with my GAF North-West Mounted Police impression (… and yes, the NWMP had some Russian Model revolvers, purchasing 30 of them in 1874 …) I ended up having to make myself another NWMP-pattern holster fo fit it, since it wouldn't properly fit in the holster I had previously made to fit my original NWMP-issue 1884 Mk II Enfield revolver.

My leatherwork is most definitley not as gorgeous as the works of art you have showcased, but I am satisfied with the end result, which is of the correct plain and functional service pattern …



Although I am admittedly neither as young nor as fit as NWMP personnel back in the day, it has been a fun impression to work up.  Here is a frequently seen "patrol uniform" consisting of the cotton duck fatigue jacket and cap, worn in conjunction with the regulation yellow-striped uniform trousers and black riding boots.



The Mills-pattern belt I am wearing above is a re-creation I had made to represent one of 200 such "olive green" belts acquired by the Force from the U.S, in 1885.  This type of belt, which had loops for both revolver and rifle cartridges, is seen being worn in a few period photographs, but no original examples are known to have survived …


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Frontier Iron / Re: S&W single actions and leather
« Last post by Cheyenne Logan on Today at 12:53:19 PM »
This will do until I make a dedicated holster ;)
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