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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: Max overall length for .44-40?
« Last post by Bunk on January 29, 2023, 04:29:14 PM »
First be sure you can unscrew the end cap plug on the magazine tube.
Then try the round it will either feed or  it will jam.
If it feeds you are golden.
I it does not refer to it as the miserable male child of a female dog, unscrew the tube and dump everything out.
Reset the seating die.
In the Gunsmith tool section the magazine end cap tool of Uniquetek is the proper tool.
You will need that that and help to hold the gun. A very good vocabulary of profanity may be needed.
Be very careful replacing the end cap it is threaded about a zillion TPI.
At least that is my experience don't ask how I know.
respectfully submitted
The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Max overall length for .44-40?
« Last post by LonesomePigeon on January 29, 2023, 03:34:08 PM »
 I got an MP Mold 433-640 and made some .44-40 black powder ammunition. They chambered and shot fine in my Uberti revolver.

However, the cartridge Over All Length was 1.62" and the Lee Cast Bullet manual lists the OAL for .44-40 as 1.59". Does anybody know if these 1.62" would cycle in my rifle?

The rifle is a Miroku-Winchester Model 1873. These 1.62" cartridges do chamber no problem when single loaded through the top. I am just not sure if I should try loading through the magazine.
The Darksider's Den / Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Last post by Roosterman on January 29, 2023, 02:26:19 PM »
I always used the C&B pistol "wrist shake" when cocking for the next shot in a match. Only had one time it failed me.
NCOWS / Re: Looking to join
« Last post by Mogorilla on January 29, 2023, 01:01:22 PM »
Will do.   Thanks!
The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: All Four
« Last post by DrummerBoy on January 29, 2023, 12:58:57 PM »
THANKS Roosterman! I’m really feeling my way on this and it’s good to get some feedback!
NCOWS / Re: Looking to join
« Last post by Johnson Barr on January 29, 2023, 12:32:50 PM »
Hey Paul give Mr. Irons notification as well. Your new email needs to be updated in the Shootist.  -J.Barr
The Darksider's Den / Re: Who is our Cas City resident Cap & Ball guru?
« Last post by hellgate on January 29, 2023, 11:15:51 AM »
Cap jam is a pretty thoroughly discussed problem for which there are multiple answers. The simplest things most anyone can do that will stop 90% of them are:
#1 Don't lighten the hammer spring excessively
#2 Swap out the nipples for ones with smaller flash holes (to prevent blowback of the hammer) using Slix-shot, Butler Creek, or Treso nipples
#3 Shoot lighter rather than max loads
#4 Slightly take the sharp edges off the safety notch on the hammer face to dull the edges so they are not so "grabby".
#5 Completely fill in that little safety notch that grabs spent caps. I actually had someone refer to it as the "Hellgate modification". The Pietta Colts have excessively wide safety notches compared to ASM guns. I use JB Weld but actually welding it flush would be best. I have never been able to get solder to stick to the case hardening on the hammer slot. Maybe some one can educated me on that.  I occasionally have to replace the JB Weld because it can get knocked out from shooting. 

For the more gunsmithy types I have seen how to install a cap guard shield onto the recoil shield with a narrow slot to allow a narrorwed/reshaped hammer to fit through or to cut a slot into the hammer face and install a peg in the hammer cutout in the frame in front of the nipple. Both modifications prevent the spent cap from moving rearward but require modification of the hammer face. I once had a pistol that had the cap shield on it but caps would drag against it and make for harder cylinder rotation. I've never installed the peg system but I believe it works the best. All I have ever done is described in the first paragraph. I'm sure I have left something out.

Here's a prior discussion from CAS City with more stuff:
The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: All Four
« Last post by Roosterman on January 29, 2023, 11:14:42 AM »
…..SLUGGED my two loose barrels today…my first effort at it:
Did the 40-60 first. Went to the ACE and got some calipers and wood dowels, put bore butter down the muzzle and on a Hornady 464 musket ball, set the barrel on a roll of toilet paper and started tapping on a section of dowel…left a big ol lead ring on the muzzle and got a relatively nice little slug..measured 12/32 with my cheap calipers..I have some Acme .406 250 grain bullets and they measure 12/32 as well so I’m grossly in the .406 ball park for my groove diameter…seems I need a .407 or .408 to seal this particular bore…also looks as if CH4D has a die set..
That's what mine measures, .406
The Winchester Model 1873 / Re: First Time 73 Owner
« Last post by David Battersby on January 29, 2023, 10:18:35 AM »

It is my experience that the 44WCF loaded with a case full of Swiss 2F or Reloder 7 with a 30-1 alloy bullet is rather impressive.  I shot lever action silhouette with one for years. 200 meters off hand, no sling, no support knocking over rams.     200 yards with a rest it would easily be a deer harvesting machine.
Tall Tales / Re: Happy New Year Coffee
« Last post by Delmonico on January 29, 2023, 09:57:02 AM »
I learned how to drive a stick on a 1960 VW Bug field car when I was 14.Have owned a couple stick shift since then.
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