Reloaded 125 regular 12 ga cas W-W loads so I thought I?d do 4 boxes of my 2 inchers while I was sitting at my Pacific. I had to think a bit but it came back to me. My old boxes are dated from 2 years ago. In case anyone is interested I use ww AA hulls cut down to 2 3/8 in but they could be a hair longer. A 209 primer, 1 oz of #9 shot in a Clay Buster1138-12 red wad over a #408 bushing of Clay Dot with a cdbd overshot wad. I can fit 7 of these in my 6 rd modded 97s, M12 and Marlin 24. My original loads used a #398 powder bushing but I needed more juice. They do as well as the full length as the only internal difference is the shot wad. I sacrificed an old aluminum mec final crimp die to shorten but have found that the shorter die works fine for my standard length shells too. I made a spacer for the short shell to reach the starter crimp die.