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CAS TOPICS => Gunsmithing => Topic started by: Holsterguy on September 10, 2020, 07:14:38 PM

Title: Triggerguard
Post by: Holsterguy on September 10, 2020, 07:14:38 PM
Probly a dumb question, but, I picked up a 1851 navy colt at a gun show some time ago, and have never shot it because for some reason Uberti put a “squished” triggerguard on it and it’s very uncomfortable. It’s marked Cimarron, Houston, Tx. Emailed Cimarron to see, roughly, how old it is, and whether or not there is a different triggerguard available. He wanted the serial #, so I gave it to him, and he said he couldn’t find it in their database.
Could any of you help?
Thanks
Title: Re: Triggerguard
Post by: Holsterguy on September 10, 2020, 08:15:28 PM
I guess to ask a different way, aren’t the triggerguards on most the same size and shape as a saa? If so, as long as it’s an Uberti part, will it fit?
Title: Re: Triggerguard
Post by: Major 2 on September 10, 2020, 10:07:31 PM
On the 51 Navy there was Square back and the rounded TG ....

You can indeed swap out the two, with two provisos

Uberti to Uberti parts .... Pietta and others will not necessarily line up screw holes

and the date codes are similar - the Date Code will be two letters inside a square [AD] for example

If your date code is a Roman Numeral [XXX] for example , it is an early gun and may not align screw holes

I suggest you contact VTI 

VTI Replica Gun Parts
PO Box 509
Lakeville CT 06039
USA
860-435-8068
Fax 860-435-8146
Email mail@vtigunparts.com

Italian date stamps
Note! The stamp is not a part in the serial numbers, and it is normally found on Frame in [ ] brackets

Year Mark Year Mark     Year Mark   Year Mark   Year Mark   Year Mark  Year  Mark
1940        1953 IX       1966 XXII    1979 AE    1992 BB     2005 BZ     2018  CT
1941        1954 X        1967 XXIII   1980 AF    1993 BC    2006 CA     2019  CU
1942        1955 XI       1968 XXIV   1981 AH    1994 BD    2007 CB      2020  CZ
1943        1956 XII      1969 XXV    1982 AI     1995 BF    2008 CC      2021  DA
1944        1957 XIII     1970 XXVI   1983 AL    1996 BH    2009 CD      2022  DB
1945 I      1958 XIV     1971 XXVII  1984 AM   1997 BI     2010 CF       2023 DC
1946 II     1959 XV      1972 XXVIII 1985 AN   1998 BL     2011 CH      2024  DD
1947 III    1960 XVI     1973 XXIX   1986 AP    1999 BM    2012 CI       2025  DE
1948 IV    1961 XVII    1974 XXX    1987 AS    2000 BN    2013 CL      2026  DF
1949 V     1962 XVIII   1975 AA     1988 AT    2001 BP    2014 CM      2027  DH
1950 VI    1963 XIX     1976 AB      1989 AU    2002 BS    2015 CN      2028  DI
1951 VII   1964 XX      1977 AC      1990 AZ    2003 BT    2016 CP      2029  DL
1952 VIII  1965 XXI     1978 AD      1991 BA    2004 BU    2017 CS      2030  DM
Title: Re: Triggerguard
Post by: Holsterguy on September 11, 2020, 05:46:53 AM
Major- thanks for the reply. Can’t really find numbers or letters in brackets.
What I can find is- serial #1251**, right above that it’s marked AII.
Top of barrel says Cimarron Arms Co. Houston Tx
Left side of frame says A. Uberti&Co, Italy

One thing I did come across is that this is what they call a small oval triggerguard used in the early production Colts. The one I like is the round or large oval from late production Colts.
Title: Re: Triggerguard
Post by: Major 2 on September 11, 2020, 09:32:01 AM
Cimarron Arms Co. Houston Tx.

that tells me something  as to date :

 Mike Harvey opened Cimarron in Houston in 1984 he later moved it to Fredericksburg, Texas.

I think your AII  is in fact AI ]  the [ AI ] date code is lightly stamped , I believe your gun was made in 1982

Course that is without looking at it...
Title: Re: Triggerguard
Post by: Holsterguy on September 11, 2020, 05:56:17 PM
Thanks Major!