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Title: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 19, 2022, 01:57:15 PM: I made a holster for an 8" 1860 conv. I wanted it to have the 'feel' of an SC Gallup holster on page 89 of Packing Iron but without the hammer being buried behind the upper curve. The original holster is clean and without any noteworthy decorative work. The maker's stamp and a bead along the top curve is all. The natural beauty of the leather does the rest.

(https://i.imgur.com/S4JOu55.jpg)

It also needed to be a 30 degree cross draw holster, which is much better than trying to pull that long iron into your arm pit to draw it out of a strong side holster. To do that I just widened my pattern for a Slim Jim belt loop and angled the top back towards the center of the holster. Then I stitched and riveted it on at the proper angle.

(https://i.imgur.com/JLcIgR0.jpg)

To get the color I diluted a mixture of what-all colors I had on hand with about 4 parts alcohol.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Johnny McCrae on May 19, 2022, 02:57:22 PM: Beautiful! Simple but elegant.

Many thanks for sharing your expertise with us.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Abilene on May 19, 2022, 03:28:28 PM: That IS a purty piece of leather! :)
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 19, 2022, 03:39:34 PM: Thanks, John, Abilene. The more I make these things, the more I like clean and simple.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Major 2 on May 19, 2022, 07:33:11 PM: That is elegant.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 19, 2022, 08:10:50 PM: Quote from: Major 2 on May 19, 2022, 07:33:11 PM
That is elegant.
Thanks, Major.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Coffinmaker on May 20, 2022, 06:58:15 AM: :) Marshal ;)

PLUS ONE to what they ALL said 8)
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Rube Burrows on May 20, 2022, 07:52:15 AM: Love everything about it. The design, the belt loop, the color. Timeless.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 20, 2022, 08:13:54 AM: Thank you, Coffinmaker, Rube. I'm pretty pleased with it.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Skeeter Lewis on May 21, 2022, 06:22:02 AM: Nice work, Marshal.
Title: Re: RC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 21, 2022, 09:17:29 AM: Thanks, Skeet.
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 21, 2022, 02:27:00 PM: I just noticed a typo in the subject line of this thread. I had "RC Gallup" and it should have been "SC Gallup". That's corrected, now
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Skeeter Lewis on May 23, 2022, 12:01:46 PM: The colour is great. I find dyeing so hot-or-miss. Drives me nuts.
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 23, 2022, 02:57:12 PM: Quote from: Skeeter Lewis on May 23, 2022, 12:01:46 PM
The colour is great. I find dyeing so hot-or-miss. Drives me nuts.
Thanks, this is a color I've tried many times to achieve and finally hit on it. I have it saved in a jar so I can get a couple more out of the same batch.

I hear you on hit-or-miss. Even two pieces of leather from different parts of the same hide can come out different using one batch of dye. Yes, drives me nuts, too.

There is a solution of sorts. ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/SvXzzqo.jpg)
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Rube Burrows on May 23, 2022, 03:59:43 PM: Quote from: Skeeter Lewis on May 23, 2022, 12:01:46 PM
The colour is great. I find dyeing so hot-or-miss. Drives me nuts.

I have never really had a problem with the dying process however lately I have had a couple problems. I had a guy who I made a holster for contact me a month or so later and want another holster to match it. Well, same leather, same dye. I made him one and it looked good to me but when side by side the colors don't match like he'd like so I told him I'd make him another.

Well, again, same color same leather and I am getting these almost oil slick like color on it. Not sure what is going on here. I have ordered Herman Oak leather in an attempt to have more consistency.

Any ideas what causes this? Is it the leather? Possibly the tanning process?

Not trying to hijack your thread Marshal
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 23, 2022, 04:17:34 PM: No problem, Rube. I'm not an expert on the chemistry of this but it goes away when you put Skidmore's or Lexol conditioner on it. That doesn't seem to happen with dye when diluted with alcohol.

It's hard to get two dye jobs exactly the same. Also over time, leather darkens naturally, especially when exposed to light. Like Skeeter said, it can drive you nuts.
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Rube Burrows on May 24, 2022, 07:55:45 AM: Quote from: Marshal Will Wingam on May 23, 2022, 04:17:34 PM
No problem, Rube. I'm not an expert on the chemistry of this but it goes away when you put Skidmore's or Lexol conditioner on it. That doesn't seem to happen with dye when diluted with alcohol.

It's hard to get two dye jobs exactly the same. Also over time, leather darkens naturally, especially when exposed to light. Like Skeeter said, it can drive you nuts.

Indeed. It did rub out but is a little darker than I was wanting.

Anyways, thanks, back to your wonderful holster.
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Capt Quirk on May 24, 2022, 01:35:20 PM: I will sometimes wipe down the project with a rag and alcohol, to lighten the dye, but, it doesn't always match. When doing two, your best bet is at the same time.

And Will, I like me a crossdraw rig, nice work as always.
Title: Re: SC Gallup, Sort Of
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on May 24, 2022, 01:40:03 PM: Thanks, Capt.

You're absolutely right. Doing two at the same time is best. And I also put alcohol on the leather before dying, too. It helps even the color absorption.