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Standard Mfg 44-40
« on: June 14, 2021, 04:45:42 PM »
I just got off the phone with Shane at Standard Mfg.
He happily took my order for a 5 1/2" one piece grip Single Action in 44-40
It was about $100 more than their advertised 45 Colts with an 8-10 week lead time.
I'm a happy camper.  :)

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2021, 05:53:35 PM »
You only bought one?  For CAS you need two!

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2021, 06:12:23 PM »
Well I got one in January (7 1/2" 45 Colt).  Will that work?   ;)

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2021, 06:45:35 AM »
No, that won't work! Now ya gotta take two different caliber's of ammo! But I'm sure you know the difference twixt the two. Still, better go order another 44-40, to be safe.  ;) ;D

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2021, 07:56:42 PM »
Anything will work.  But two different barrel lengths and two different calibers won't work well.  You need a third one to break the tie and make a usable pair.

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2021, 08:41:31 PM »
Ya know, I tried to come up with a counter argument to yours, and so far I can't.   :P

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2021, 08:41:50 AM »
As long as you can tie your shoe laces you should have no difficulty using 2 or 3 calibers to shoot a Cas stage. I have done it with no problem.
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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2021, 09:14:23 AM »


 :)  Ah HA !!!  ;)

Atz da problem.  All my sandals have Velcro Closures.  No laces.

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2021, 09:56:14 AM »
You only bought one?  For CAS you need two!

For SASS you need two. Not all CAS
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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2021, 11:58:32 AM »
1 watched a shooter [he loaded his guns next to me] at the SE Regional years ago load his pistol ammo into his rifle. Trouble was they weren’t the same caliber. Beep went off and he was fine until he cycled-or tried to cycle his rifle. 10 misses that quick of course he had a good time. Watched OlHenry shoot a stage at my club once and missed everything with his pistols. When he got to the unloading table he found out why, .44-40s don’t shoot very accurately in a revolver chambered in .45colt, but they will chamber just fine. My first cas guns were all .45colt but I have bought a few in .45 Schofield and .44-40s [1873 and 1866 military rifles] in recent years.
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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2021, 11:04:39 AM »
OK, so here's the REST of the story:

So three weeks after I ordered the 44-40 I got a call from my FFL that the gun is ready for pickup.
I went in Sat am and lo and behold, it's a 45 Colt.
I told my FFL to send it back.  (I have enough 45 Colts already.)

I wrote to Standard Mfg (Connecticut Shotgun) explaining the issue and their response this morning was:
Sorry for the miscommunication.  We're too busy making 45 Colts and it will be a long time, if ever, before we offer 44-40's.
We'll refund your money when we get the gun back.
Sigh.

But in the larger scheme of life, this is no big deal and otherwise known as a First World problem.
Life is good. 


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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2021, 06:46:10 PM »
...
But in the larger scheme of life, this is no big deal and otherwise known as a First World problem.
Life is good.

For any problem I say, in the big picture this is minor and temporary.  If the problem is really big, the picture just has to get bigger.  :)

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2021, 03:56:15 AM »
....

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2021, 06:16:58 AM »
" He happily took my order for a 5 1/2" one piece grip Single Action in 44-40.
It was about $100 more than their advertised 45 Colts"


"...Sorry for the miscommunication.  We're too busy making 45 Colts and it will be a long time, if ever, before we offer 44-40's."

No  miscommunication ...Clearly misrepresentation and an over zealous sale rep....

" ... We'll refund your money when we get the gun back.  " THEY bloody well should   ???

"... But in the larger scheme of life, this is no big deal and otherwise known as a First World problem.
Life is good.


I'm impressed by your demeanor  :) , I consider it refreshing ....

 


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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2021, 09:57:09 PM »
"We're too busy making 45 Colts . . ."

Yeah I am sure they are cranking out thousands of them.

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2021, 11:56:15 PM »
"We're too busy making 45 Colts . . ."

Yeah I am sure they are cranking out thousands of them.

That was my paraphrasing, but here is the exact wording from them:
I'm sorry that you were misinformed.   We are so oversold on these guns in the regular 45 Colt that we simply don’t have the resources to build them in 44-40 at the current time and won't be able to for a long ways out.

Kinda weird they'd be "so oversold" and yet I received the 45 with an estimated 8-10 week lead time in just over 2 1/2.   :-\

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2021, 05:27:43 AM »
Perhaps it was returned by another misinformed buyer , and so on and so on.  ???
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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2021, 08:40:23 AM »

 :)  It's really quite simple my dear Watson  ;)

Standard is struggling to amortize their original investment tooling up to make .45s.  I seriously doubt they have even reached "break even" yet and don't wish to admit they can't absorb the tooling cost to make 44-40. And . . . .

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2021, 09:50:25 AM »
:)  It's really quite simple my dear Watson  ;)

Standard is struggling to amortize their original investment tooling up to make .45s.  I seriously doubt they have even reached "break even" yet and don't wish to admit they can't absorb the tooling cost to make 44-40. And . . . .

PLUS ONE for Pettifogger (tongue stuck firmly in cheek)

Why is it a big cost tooling for 44/40? (askin for a friend ya know) -- guts of the gun is same? all they need is some 44/40 barrel and a chamber reamer ..................did I miss somethin here ?

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Re: Standard Mfg 44-40
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2021, 01:04:58 PM »
....did I miss somethin here ?

I suspect the development and tooling costs of that idiot 22 they came out with probably quashed the possibility of anything new in the single action department, at least for a while.

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