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Offline Baltimore Ed

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.45 Cowboy Special
« on: May 26, 2021, 11:16:04 AM »
Anyone know of any .45CS brass availability? Thinking that I’d like to get 100 for my Marlin trapper as it has issues with Schofield brass sometimes. Got 25 pcs from a bud and have gotten them to feed as long as the oal is 1.275 with 180 or 200 gr RNFP bullets. I’m crimping in the grease groove. Thx.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2021, 08:39:50 PM »
I may have some, but I am traveling until next week. Remind to look when I get home if you haven't found any by then.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2021, 09:07:06 PM »
Thanks for the offer Deacon but Beartooth gave me 25 pcs at last Saturday’s BAMM to experiment with and as I seem to be getting good results using an oal of 1.295-1.300 inch with 255 gr swc bullets I’ve back ordered 250 from starline. I couldn’t find any anywhere, Majordeux suggested starline so I called them and talked to a nice gal who took my money but couldn’t tell me when they would make a run of them just that they would. ‘Only the Shadow knows.’

Decided to move my CS reloading to my Dillon 550 that is dedicated to .45acp/AR so I experimented with the ar shellplate. Turns out you can use the AR shellplate for .45colt/cs but I was only seating primers halfway due to the thicker rim of the ar. So then I tinkered with making the primer stem longer by reshaping the set screw point and lowering the radius on the bottom of the stem to get it higher. Dropped a no 9 shot in the hole too. So now it primes thin rim cs/45colt brass fine. But then it was too high for the priming tube and the cup was hitting the next primer in the tube not slipping under it. So then I replaced the white plastic primer stop with a little larger diameter piece of brass rod with a round end instead of the taper that the plastic had. The extra height from the brass was enough to get the primer cup to depress the brass stop and slide under the stack of primers to pick one up. The brass rod then returns to hold up the primer stack. Loaded 30 rounds and its working fine. No need to buy another shellplate. Another wrinkle has surfaced though. I have added a spring between the arm and bench to raise the shellplate a hair. It gives me a little more clearence between the primer cup with s primer in it and surface of the shellplate but allows me to seat the primer fully.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2021, 08:48:26 AM »
Cowboy .45 Spl brass can be made from .45 Colt brass.  I've even used .44-40 brass in a pinch.  I have a fixture set up that allows me to rim a bunch of cases on a band saw then use a case trimmer to trim to final length.  You shouldn't have any problems seating primer using a .45 Colt shellplate on a 550.  That's exactly what I use. 

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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2021, 09:52:47 AM »

 :)  Well  ;)

Wabac inna Wabac (Thank you Sherman and the Professor) I was making my own C45S and 45 Squirt (For Squirt, start with 45 Schofield).  Set my Shop Smith lathe function up with a Jig.  Worked a treat.  Only found one problem.  When you cut down 45 colt or 45 Schofield, you wind up in the "fat" part of the brass and it doesn't Obturate well at all.  Yule get some Blow-By.  Starline C45S thins a bit at the mouth and seals the chamber some better.  Not perfect, but "better."

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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2021, 05:00:27 PM »
Loading .45 CAS brass on a Dillon 550B uses the .45 Colt shell plate and a mix of dies.
.45  Colt size and de-capping die, lee .45 ACP powder/neck expanding die, .45,ACP seating die parentage unknown (Pacific perhaps) and a Redding .45 ACP roll crimp die.
It looks like a .45ACP case but it is not tapered. It have been informed a .45ACP sizing die overworks the brass.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2021, 01:24:21 PM »
Beings that I lost the bidding on [2 different lots] of over 500 pcs of used c45s brass [all sold for 240.00 to the same greedy dude] i looked around for an alternative and ordered one of these. I don’t usually talk up Lee stuff but I bought a manual Lee Deluxe Quick Trim and a .45acp Trim Die and have just cranked out 5 cowboy special loads made from Schofield brass. This thing works a charm, much better [for .45 dia sized cases] than their old stem and cutter system. I did use a .455 trim die, a hack saw and a couple of washers for spacers to remove the bulk of the brass and then turned it in the Quick Trim. Very ingenious, looks well made, makes a very nice cut/trim and it hasn’t broken yet! Need about 100 pcs total. Much cheaper than getting into a bidding war.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2021, 04:41:51 PM »
I got an email from Starline last week that my backordered .45CS was in production and ready to ship.  Should have it this week.  250 for $80.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2021, 05:17:12 PM »
Drydock, I just went over there the other day and looked, still oos then. Oh well. For my 40.00 i can make as many as i need now.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2021, 05:35:59 PM »
Did they contact you about your backorder?  If it's been longer than 30 days they'll need your card number again.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2021, 05:58:01 PM »
Never got an email but it’s been so long, thought that I had done it right but who knows. No big deal.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2021, 06:06:02 PM »
might check your spam folder just to be sure.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2021, 08:06:01 AM »
I was on backorder for Starline Brass 45 Cowboy special for months and just got an email yesterday to contact them and give them updated payment info. When I called they said I would have it within the week.  :)
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2021, 03:32:05 PM »
They won't list it as in stock until all the backorders are filled.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2021, 09:39:13 AM »
Surprise and Merry Christmas to me. Walked out my back door and there’s a box from Starline with 250 pcs of c45s brass sitting there. I have received no recent emails or shipping notifications from them? Guess they didn’t need any cc info. I don’t remember when I even placed the order.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2021, 09:48:16 AM »
Surprise and Merry Christmas to me. Walked out my back door and there’s a box from Starline with 250 pcs of c45s brass sitting there. I have received no recent emails or shipping notifications from them? Guess they didn’t need any cc info. I don’t remember when I even placed the order.
I guess as long as your CC was up to date they ran it. Good to see they are catching up on some backorders. Maybe this means we will start seeing some actual inventory in the near future.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2021, 10:37:06 AM »
Yay! Mine delivered today.  Set for life.
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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2021, 03:51:26 PM »
Guess Starline has been busy shipping lately.  I got 500 45S&W delivered Tuesday.   :)

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Re: .45 Cowboy Special
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2021, 08:07:20 PM »
FWIW Starline now shows CS and Schofield brass in stock and ready to ship.   Free shipping as well.
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