Pocket Breaktops

[Montana Slim]

I only use true BP in my genuine Smith & Wesson revolvers. A charge of .7 cc is about a full case, add a 125-150 grain bullet & I'm set. Now...I do have a smokeless load that I use in several pocket guns which are a bit newer and certainly of lesser value than my S&Ws. For those revolvers I run 2.0 grains of W231 or 700X with a 125 grain bullet.

Regards,
Slim

[Books OToole]

A charge of .7 cc is about a full case, add a 125-150 grain bullet & I'm set.
Regards,
Slim

It is a very full case.

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[Shotgun Franklin]

OK now nobody have a stroke but, does anyone have BP Substitude loads for the .38 S&W?

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[Dalton Masterson]

Yep, with everything but 777 fill the case and have a little compression when you seat the bullet.
For 777, fill the case enough you touch the bullet, and dont compress.
DM

[Grizzly Adams]

OK now nobody have a stroke but, does anyone have BP Substitude loads for the .38 S&W?

Why sure!   Use a full case of American Pioneer Powder - FFg - light to little or no compression

[Grizzly Adams]

While we're showing off Merwin Hulberts, here's my 7-shot in .32 on the .38 frame.    Now I need a large frame in .44 Russian to go with it.





Meh, break tops, front sliders, same diff. 

I have a couple of Forehand & Wadsworth break tops.  Around here they tend to go for cheap because they are mostly 12(6) class (prohibited) handguns.  You have had to be grandfathered in to own one.  Prior 15-Feb-96 iffen I recall correct like.  At least anything prior 1946 can be classed 12(7) relic and passed on to an immediate blood relative.  You folks don't want to know what happens to the rest of them upon a 12(6) holder's demise if a new home can't be found for said guns in a "reasonable" amount of time.  Wonder how much trouble it would be to buy some of these up for export to the U.S.?    

Very nice!   Gotta love those Merwins.

[Montana Slim]

It is a very full case.

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I must have bigger brass  I also squeeze a thin wad between powder & bullet to keep lube from migrating into the powder.

I'm considering a big-lube mold to cast my own bullets. I think the crimp groove on that bullet leaves a lot of the lead outside the case. Could make life easier.

Slim

[Drayton Calhoun]

Found two little breaktops at a pawn shop near me, one H&R and one Iver Johnson. Finsh was good on the HR and, except for wear on the barrel, excellent on the Iver. Both were .38 SW and the Iver was tight as new, excellent lockup. Price 450.00 each, ouch.

[Dr. Bob]

That fellow has delusions of grandeur!  Should be $195 - $250 for either.  A pristine S & W might be worth that.  Look on Gun Broker!

[Books OToole]

That fellow has delusions of grandeur!  Should be $195 - $250 for either.  A pristine S & W might be worth that.  Look on Gun Broker!

Maybe those are California prices. 

Around here(KCMo) realy nice H & Rs or Iver Johnson in outstanding shape go for about $ 125.

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[Old No7]

Long time, no posts...

This is a game I can finally play...

Here's a couple of nice (for their age) H&R Auto Ejecting Third Models, in 32 S&W Long.





Would like to get a nice S&W 4th Model some time -- or maybe a new NAA 22 Mag Top-Break (they start shipping this week, but I'm told all 500 were sold out) -- then again, I saw a nice Webley in 38 S&W today too...

Old No7

[Montana Slim]

Old No 7,

Nice condition H&R's you got there...I've got an older one & see there is a slight difference in the frames

"Would like to get a nice S&W 4th Model some time "

Yes, I should be getting one from the delivery-guy one of these days 

Regards,
Slim

[RickB]

I found a nice little top break S&W in .32 rimfire but I'm not sure I want to pay $350.00 for a gun that I can't get ammo for. What do you guys think?

Here is a picture of what it looks like.

[Grizzly Adams]

Long time, no posts...

This is a game I can finally play...

Here's a couple of nice (for their age) H&R Auto Ejecting Third Models, in 32 S&W Long.





Would like to get a nice S&W 4th Model some time -- or maybe a new NAA 22 Mag Top-Break (they start shipping this week, but I'm told all 500 were sold out) -- then again, I saw a nice Webley in 38 S&W today too...

Old No7

Nice pair of pistols there Old No7. I think I have your nickle pistols sister....in 38 S&W.



I picked this one up at a gunshow in Anchorage many moons ago.  Cost me $5.00.......fella thought it was broke!

[Drayton Calhoun]

Maybe those are California prices.  California dreaming in Alabama! Feller thought he had a gold mine in that display case. Oh, they also had a Colt Buntline from 1975 for sale, 'never been cocked' supposedly, 1500 he was asking.

Around here(KCMo) realy nice H & Rs or Iver Johnson in outstanding shape go for about $ 125.

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[Books OToole]

I found a nice little top break S&W in .32 rimfire but I'm not sure I want to pay $350.00 for a gun that I can't get ammo for. What do you guys think?

Here is a picture of what it looks like.

Rick;

That sure looks like a S & W # 1 1/2 center-fire to me.  The rim-fire are tip-ups not break-tops.  $ 350.00 is not too high for one in that nice of shape.  If it all works and with a good bore; go for it.

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[Old No7]

"That sure looks like a S & W # 1 1/2 center-fire to me.  The rim-fire are tip-ups not break-tops.  $ 350.00 is not too high for one in that nice of shape.  If it all works and with a good bore; go for it."

And on top of that...  Check out this link, as now you CAN reload for the 32 rimfire!!!

H&C Reloading & Accessories for Antique Firearms

I think their solution is rather neat!

But I only found it after I passed up a nice & clean Winchester Low Wall in that caliber....................

Good luck!

Old No7

[Captain John Jarrett]

And now you can also shoot those Lefaucheux pinfire revolvers.
http://www.hc-collection.com/PBSCCatalog.asp?ActionID=67174912&PBCATID=335262&PBCATName=Lefaucheux pinfire Cartdriges
 I saw a very nice one the last gun show, may have to see if it's still at the show this weekend.

John.

[Books OToole]

RickB;

I just re-examined your photo of the pistol.  I checked The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, (Supica & Nahas) this morning.  If that is a photo of the pistol that is for sale, $ 350 is a good buy;  If it is in the origial box you can probably just about double the price.

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[RickB]

RickB;

I just re-examined your photo of the pistol.  I checked The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, (Supica & Nahas) this morning.  If that is a photo of the pistol that is for sale, $ 350 is a good buy;  If it is in the origial box you can probably just about double the price.

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Sorry but the pic I included was from the web site "the armchair gunshow" and was only to show a pistol that is exactly like the one I was looking at. I thought $350 was a good price and used that site to see what prices are like for those old pocket pistols. The one I'm looking at is in really good condition like the one in the picture but it doesn't have the original box. I hope you are right about this being a centerfire. I would love to be able to shoot it. I'm going out to check it out again and maybe buy it today. Thanks for everyones input. It is greatly appreciated.