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Blakeslee box tube size?
« on: March 23, 2021, 01:26:31 PM »
Just picked up a used Chiappa Spencer in 45 Schofield, looking at a repro Blakeslee box listed for 44/40 and 45 long colt would the 45 Schofield rounds fit or should I get the one sized for 56/50? I  would appreciate any advice. Thanks.

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Re: Blakeslee box tube size?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2021, 03:31:25 PM »
Welcome:
Lots of help here. Please keep posting. Tx.

Suggest reading the "SORI" Section as you get going.

Ken Howell's book: DESIGNING AND FORMING CUSTOM CARTRIDGES,  has rim diameter dim's for 44-40 and 45 Colt.

"BLAIR", here, is versed in the Schofield round.

RIM OD's range between .500" for 44 S&W American to .512" for 45 Colt (not "long" COLT) to .515" for 44 S&W Russian, so those are all close to the same. 

56-56  and 56-50 rim OD's range between .630" for STARLINE brass to .650" for most others.
There are no recent SAAMI dim's for 56-56 or 56-50, which SAAMI notes are "obsolete cartridges".

Please let us know how you do with your Spencer.
Please Google: Spencer rifles in movies, for some nice scenes.

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PLEASE USE BULLETS WITH A FLAT SPOT ON THEIR NOSES GREATER THAN THAT OF THE CENTER FIRE PRIMER AND LOAD WITHOUT LETTING THE ROUNDS SLIDE TOO FAST INTO THE TUBES OR BUTT. 

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Re: Blakeslee box tube size?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2021, 09:08:39 PM »
Beepo,
          The 45 Schofield brass will almost completely fit inside an empty 56-50. I have a Blakesly box for my 56-50 and I just tried the Schofield brass in it.  There is lots of extra room and the rounds would certainly bounce around inside the tubes.  The 45 Schofield will certainly fit in a box designed for 45 LC.  The smaller tubes would  probably be a better option unless you plan on adding a 56-50 to the armory and want to use one box.

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Re: Blakeslee box tube size?
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2021, 09:44:59 PM »
DoneDusm,

                Thank you sir, your help is greatly appreciated, I will order the 44/40-45 Blakeslee box.

El Supremo,

                Thanks for the friendly welcome and your technical knowledge of the Spencer.

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Re: Blakeslee box tube size?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2021, 06:55:29 AM »
Beepo,
            Please let us know what you think about quality, construction, source of your Blakeslee box once you have it in hand. I believe there was a previous thread but never hurts to update as some sources have fallen by the wayside.  Thanks

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Re: Blakeslee box tube size?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2021, 04:47:03 PM »
I received the Blakeslee box from C&C Sutlery for $79 plus shipping. Decent box for the money except for the 6 tin tubes which to C&C's credit told me about when I spoke with them. They are hand made and are all different dimensions with a solder line along one side, not straight, rust inside and out, some would only fit into certain holes in the block. After a trip to Home Depot I found 1/2" copper pipe which the 45 Schofield rounds fit into perfectly, I cut them to 12" length and glued on a copper end cap. Not sure how it would hold up for reenacting/cavalry but for my intended purpose at the range it fits the bill nicely.

 

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