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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => The Barracks => Topic started by: Drydock on October 05, 2020, 06:48:14 PM
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https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/881720241
A Shiloh
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An Original https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880602867
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For a $ 95 difference, I'd go with the original to go with my "66 Trapdoor.
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An Original https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880602867
Hey Drydock, that picture of the Bore looks funny. Is it a Hexagonal or something? The lands and grooves are the same width, never seen that before that I remember.
Later
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That is the Springfield 3 groove barrel. All Springfield produced barrels and liners from 1866 to 1891 used this style of rifling. I believe it dates back to the 1855 Musket. Look down the barrel of any original trapdoor and you will see this type of rifling. The 1868 Sharps conversions used Springfield supplied liners in any barrel over .522
New Pedersoli Trapdoors use this rifling as well. The H&R variants did not.
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.50-70 carbines are VERY cool! I built an 1870 Trapdoor Carbine from a rifle, and I can see why all the originals you see (very few) are used up. Great little rifles!
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A small number of these original Sharps cartridge conversion carbines were retained by the cavalry following issue of the M1873 Trapdoor Springfields in .45-70. The retained Sharps were issued to some of the civilian employees of the QM Dept. for use when the employees accompanied the troops in the field. Most of those civilians were teamsters or packers. At least one accompanied the Big Horn & Yellowstone Expedition of 1876, the column commanded by BGen George Crook. Likely this young lad, a teamster, stayed with the wagon train at Camp Cloud Peak, where Sheridan, WY, is now, although it is possible he went along and was involved in the Rosebud Battle, 17 June 1976.
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1874? It is an 1859 conversion, converted in late 1860s,
Brian
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Shiloh relisted
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The same seller has a split breech roller at a pretty good price too.