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Title: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on October 08, 2020, 05:45:40 PM
My loving wife gave me an envelope today she had in her office.  Inside was the Colt Letter for my Colt New Service I acquired probably 2 years ago.  The gun came with a certificate that it had been used in the movies.  The colt letter dated Jan 2019 (either post office really screwed up or it has been laying around the house 22 months) states the guns is .455 and was one of 500 shipped to London Armory Company July 13, 1915.  I expect it must have crossed the channel but one never knows.  One wishes these old guns could talk what a tale many could tell.
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Post by: Major 2 on October 08, 2020, 07:15:27 PM
Looking forward to the photo's  :)
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (photos added)
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on October 08, 2020, 08:29:26 PM
As requested
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Silver Creek Slim on October 08, 2020, 09:00:52 PM
Very nice.

Slim
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Major 2 on October 09, 2020, 01:33:14 AM
Oh Yeahhhhhh!
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 09, 2020, 07:50:33 AM
Nice, I love New Services
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: smoke on October 21, 2020, 04:41:06 PM
Very nice!  I have a 1915 built one also.  Originally a .455 but reamed to .45 Colt.  Mine has a London Proof House proof on it.  Is yours English proofed?
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Baltimore Ed on October 27, 2020, 11:58:30 AM
While we’re having a NS moment here’s my small collection. A couple of unaltered .455s on top[need to sell them], a 7.5 and 4.5 in .38-40 on the bottom [my favorites], a pair of .38 spcls [second favorite] and a .455 rebated to .45lc on the right with stags-it has a WW1 provenance. The short bbl .38 with the mismatched bbl/cyl was a .455 rebuild a friend did. If I ever find a correct short bbl .38 I’d sell it. They range from 1914 to 1928, most are 1915 to 1918. Great old Colt revolvers.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Major 2 on October 27, 2020, 03:54:41 PM
very nice  :)
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Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 28, 2020, 07:28:17 AM
Very nice Ed.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Bat 2919 on October 28, 2020, 09:21:52 AM
I was thinking I'll need to go home and take a picture of my New Services and then I remembered they have already made the move to my retirement house in Texas, just waiting for me to join them.   Three were made in 1911, 1 in 1914, 1 in 1915, 1 in 1916 and the last two in 1919, all in .45 Colt (3) or ACP (5).  Only 4 of them began life as U.S. issue, 2 1909's and 2 1917's.  One began life as a .455 but a previous owner sent it to Gary Reeder and now it's a very pretty .45 Colt.  One had been nickel plated at some time in it's life but is being restored to it's original blue finish.  All of them began life with 5.5 inch barrels, two were cut down when I got them.  One had been cut down to 4 inches and the other had been cut back to about 3 inches and the front sight was never reinstalled.  I knew when I bought the 3 inch gun what I planned to do with it, I sent it to Run N Iron to return one day as a full blown Fitz Special.

It's funny, I saw my first NS in a gun shop in Kansas when I was attending an annual match.  I didn't buy it but the following year there it sat on the rack waiting patiently for me to return.  This frame size has become one of my favorites, right behind the Single Action Army.  After I bought this first NS they seam to haunt me like zombies, I see them every where.  Most of them people want too much for, I've never paid over $650 for any of them, many of them much less.  I would really like to run into one of the Hollywood modified guns with the fake ejector rod added to make them look like a Single Action Army.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 28, 2020, 12:27:21 PM
Bat:
Where is your retirement home?
T-Joe
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Baltimore Ed on October 28, 2020, 12:43:45 PM
That’s the way my first .38 NS was. A good friend who dabbled in buying and selling handguns at a few local shows to support his collecting named Don Upchurch had this .38 NS for sale. I picked it up and looked at it at multiple shows but didn’t know what i really wanted it for. He told me to buy it anyway and I finally did. I think I paid like $236.00 so it’s been a long while. I’m glad that I did as it’s one that I use when I put on my Span Am uniform along with the shorter bbl .38 NS. They work so much better than my 1892s. My heel base loads are ok but those old Colts have such a horrendous trigger pull. Bought a bunch of stuff from Don over the years, Smiths, Webleys and other Colts. I also had a .45acp 1917 but sold it. Always thought that I wanted a legit pair in .45lc but I’m happy with my very nice original .38-40s.
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Post by: Bat 2919 on October 28, 2020, 11:42:02 PM
My new home is in Borger, TX.  About 50 miles NE of Amarillo.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Pitspitr on October 29, 2020, 08:53:45 AM
My new home is in Borger, TX.  About 50 miles NE of Amarillo.
Given the area you're going to be in, I'm surprised you didn't move a few miles west to Masterson.  ;D

What's the moving date?
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: 1961MJS on October 29, 2020, 09:54:34 AM
Nah, Masterson is too close to Dum ass Texas, spelt Dumas like the dude who wrote the Three Musketeers.

It is close to Palo Duro Canyon which I need to go see.

Later
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Pitspitr on October 29, 2020, 10:16:00 AM
It is close to Palo Duro Canyon
Palo Duro Canyon is BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Bat 2919 on October 29, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Given the area you're going to be in, I'm surprised you didn't move a few miles west to Masterson.  ;D

What's the moving date?

With that name you would think it had something to do with Bat but it doesn't.  Place was named for a guy by the name of Robert Masterson.  I've driven through it, looks like a terrible place to live, Oil company town on the top of a bald windswept hilltop.

On the other hand there is plenty of real Bat history where the new house is.  Borger was a 30's oil boom town and didn't exist in Bat's lifetime, but the Adobe Walls site is also in Hutchinson County where Borger is located. 

If you look east about 50 miles on Hy 152 you'll find a little town called Mobeetie, TX in Wheeler county.  In Bat's time it was known as Hide town and/or Sweetwater where an Army Trooper from nearby Cantonment Sweetwater (latter Ft. Elliot) by the name of Melvin King took exception to a dance hall girl by the name of Mollie Brennan's affection for Bat.  King shot a 22 year old Bat in the pelvis through Mollie, killing her.  Bat killed King and walked with a limp causing him use a cane the rest of his life.
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Post by: 1961MJS on October 29, 2020, 10:57:50 AM
Yep, Borger was an exciting place.  I need to go there too assuming I survive the 19 and AOC's bunch.  I'd love to follow Bad Hand's foot steps, but I bet I'd get hurt.

Later
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Bat 2919 on October 30, 2020, 06:50:04 PM
I guess I didn't answer your question.  I'm thinking I'll pull the pin just after the first of the year for tax reasons but I don't have a firm date right now.  Cate and the dog have been down there more than they're here in the last month or two.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Books OToole on October 31, 2020, 09:09:11 AM
Ditto on the Palo Duro is beautiful comment.

Books
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Tascosa Joe on October 31, 2020, 03:32:07 PM
I grew up in and near Amarillo.  My grandparents moved to Amarillo in 1926, because my Grandfather was in the trucking business and Borger needed supplies.  Why did you all pick Borger.  Back in the day it was called Borger in the Daytime and Booger at night.
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Niederlander on October 31, 2020, 04:38:44 PM
I guess I didn't answer your question.  I'm thinking I'll pull the pin just after the first of the year for tax reasons but I don't have a firm date right now.  Cate and the dog have been down there more than they're here in the last month or two.
Outstanding!  I'm looking to pull the pin about the first of February.
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Post by: Tascosa Joe on November 01, 2020, 10:00:03 AM
There is a lot of history in the area.  Caprock Canyons State Park has the remnants of the Southern Buffalo herd.  Many of the Red River Wars engagements took place in Hutchinson and Grey Counties.

Somewhere in my stuff, I have a picture of Matt Kimes sitting on the porch of the police station in Borger. 
Title: Re: Colt New Service .455 orig now 45 Colt (pics added 2nd Response)
Post by: Tascosa Joe on November 01, 2020, 10:08:04 AM
Bat:  I sent you a PM
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Post by: Drydock on November 02, 2020, 04:03:52 PM
Another place I need to visit.  And they'll be someone to see when I get down that way.  But a good 5 years before I can do any pin pulling.   :'(

I've only got one (1) New Service, a 1916 british contract .455, that was converted to .45 Colt sometime along the way.  Last of the straight barrel, 1909 configuration.  One of my sweeter shooting DA's.
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Post by: Pitspitr on November 03, 2020, 05:48:28 AM
My only .455, that was converted to .45 Colt is a S&W
(but what would you expect)