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CAS TOPICS => Shooter's Meeting => Topic started by: Froogal on November 14, 2022, 02:41:44 PM
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Just curious as to what smokeless powders some of you might be using in your .45 Colts. Currently I am using Unique. I am not out of it, but might be after loading enough rounds for the next season of shooting.
What else works good?
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For what purpose? My favorite CAS load for .45 pistol is 4.6gr of Clays with a 200gr bullet. That is Hodgdon's minimum. Light recoil and empties fall out of the cylinder. Clays is not available right now, but Clay-Dot is and should be about the same.
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I use Red Dot for everything, because that's what I've had. It works well.
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W-231 has been a winner for me.
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W-231, Unique, Hodgdon's Universal (when available).
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:) Well Heck ;)
I'm no help atall. I haven't loaded an actual .45 Colt case in a couple Lustrum. Closest I have come is fire forming 44-40 to .45 and then loading with APP (I KNOW, not smokeless). Only load I have is for Cowboy 45 Special cases. No Help.
Keep Safe Out There
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W-231 has been a winner for me.
I have some HP38. Isn't that pretty much the same as W-231?
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I have some HP38. Isn't that pretty much the same as W-231?
Yes
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On those rare occasions when I need a smokeless 45 Colt round, like for my smokeless framed USFA revolvers, I use the Winchester recommended factory duplication load. That's 7.1g 231 under a 250-255g lead bullet. Winchester claims 850 fps but do not specify what barrel length and it's been so long since I set up my chronograph I've never checked it. Something I should do one of these days.
Dave
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Tight group.
Mike
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In order of Power wanted.
CAS loads - Red Dot
Factory duplication - Unique
Black Powder Duplication - Blue Dot
Max power - Full case compressed 3f OE or Swiss.
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In order of Power wanted.
CAS loads - Red Dot
Factory duplication - Unique
Black Powder Duplication - Blue Dot
Max power - Full case compressed 3f OE or Swiss.
Very interesting. Thank you.
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I swore off 45 Colts after an experiment resulted in bulge in the locking notches (to my mind, that metal is just too dang thin for full-power BP loads). Before that I was a big fan. Smokeless loads were 231 or Unique, with the occasional use of Red Dot or Blue Dot.
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Greetings!
Although Alliant 'Unique' is my "go-to" powder for .45 Colt and the "Dash-Cartridges", I've discovered that Hodgdon TITEGroup also performs well.
M.T.M.
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WAIT-WHAT? They make smokiless powder for 45 Colt? I don't believe it.
:o
wM1
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:) WILDMAN ;)
Wildman, do not panic, do not hide inna closet. Not to worry. They don't actually make the Heathen Smokeless Stuff for 45 Colt. Thy just make smokeless stuff that can be USED in 45 Colt.
People Are Still Hazardous to Yer Health
PS: 'Most forgot . PLUS ONE for the Dragoon!!
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WAIT-WHAT? They make smokiless powder for 45 Colt? I don't believe it.
:o
wM1
Heh heh, smokeless won't do this:
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Abilene, that's a thing of beauty. (smiley face goes here)
Dave
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A whole lot of smoke and a whole lot of fire, and a whole lot of big BOOM, but then the bore gets fouled up and who knows where that bullet went?
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Armaments, chapter 1, paragraph 7 : "And yeah, thou shalt use such water based lubricants upon thine projectiles such as the lord has provided, and verily in such quantities as to render such fouling than might occur soft, and pleasant to the touch. And thus you may shoot the whole of the day, and suffer no degradation in thine accuracy. In thy mercy."
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What Drydock says. :)
But I've actually never lubed a BP pistol bullet. I've always squirted a blob of butter flavored Crisco over the first two rounds on the left side of the loaded cylinder. Never a fouling issue in 22 years. I only use (soft) lubed bullets for rifle rounds.
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Armaments, chapter 1, paragraph 7 : "And yeah, thou shalt use such water based lubricants upon thine projectiles such as the lord has provided, and verily in such quantities as to render such fouling than might occur soft, and pleasant to the touch. And thus you may shoot the whole of the day, and suffer no degradation in thine accuracy. In thy mercy."
I use SPG lube, but the 200 grain bullets have just one lube groove, and apparently one is not enough. I'd have to step up to a 250 grain bullet to get 2 lube grooves, and that just seems like over-kill for CAS.
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I think one lube groove is fine for a pistol round.
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I use this 'un in short cases: http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=45-220R
I had Tom at accurate make it without the heel.
I'm also fond of this whomper in the big Colt case: http://www.accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=45-250J
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What Drydock says. :)
But I've actually never lubed a BP pistol bullet. I've always squirted a blob of butter flavored Crisco over the first two rounds on the left side of the loaded cylinder. Never a fouling issue in 22 years. I only use (soft) lubed bullets for rifle rounds.
And I thought I was the only one that used butter flavored Crisco. ;D
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And I thought I was the only one that used butter flavored Crisco. ;D
I read about it long ago and have been doing it since. I think it may have a higher melting point than regular Crisco.
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I use A#2 Essentially same load in 45 ACP, 45 Colt 44 Mag for a slightly warm 44 special velocity load and 2x that load in 30-06 and 30-40 Krag with cast bullets for the Muster course
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Well, let's see:
for 255 gr bullet: W231 6.0 grains
for 200 gr bullet: Trail Boss 5.5 grains