Hammer double from Rock Island?

[Oregon Bill]

Here is another shotgun that Rock Island Armory/Armscor is importing from a manufacturer in Turkey. Has anyone here seen, handled, shot one?
https://www.armscor.com/firearms-list/12rss24

[Froogal]

I've not seen one, or handled one, but made in Turkey? Might be just fine. My Tisas 1911 .45 auto is from Turkey, and made very well.

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

Howdy,

The write up says: "aluminum receiver". That's hard to imagine. I expect that is a mistake. If not, it's a first. I wouldn't trust it in a sxs.

Rev. Chase

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[Hair Trigger Jim]

I wouldn't rely on anything on that spec sheet, not after noticing the "bead sight" identified on the wrist.  Also, does anyone else refer to the "up trigger" and "hand trigger" on a two-trigger shotgun?

[Coffinmaker]

  Ah Well 

The Barrels are some way too long anyhow.  Pass.

[River City John]

"California Compliant
Maryland Compliant
Massachusetts Compliant"

Yes, but does it shoot?

[Dave T]

I actually like the barrel length. I'd like to find a gunsmith who could do a first class job cutting my Italian made double to 24". That aside and back to the subject: there's a number of things about this gun that kind of worry me, particularly the AL receiver.

Dave

[Major 2]

I give Rock Island Armory/Armscor props, they are good to deal with.
  Course they only broker this gun, as far as Turkish shotguns go, I'm on the fence.
There have been a goodly number imported under different importers & names.
The biggest issue is or was lack of and infostructure or parts availability.


 
   

[Oregon Bill]

I've handled the Model 37 Ithaca trench gun clone RIA imports from Turkey, and that thing was a tank.
The American Rifleman reviewer liked this shotty in a write-up a year ago.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-rock-island-armory-side-by-side/

[Hair Trigger Jim]

That reviewer also indicated the receiver is aluminum and referred to its anodized finish.  So that's probably true.

[Professor Marvel]

Here is a review from the NRA

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-rock-island-armory-side-by-side/

[Oregon Bill]

Posted that'n above, perfesser. 

[Coffinmaker]

  Well 

Intrestinger and intrestinger fer sure.  The Barrels are still some too long   

[Oregon Bill]

Coffinmaker: While the barrels are longer than on the typical "coach gun," they still strike me as making up into a handy package -- AND long enough to be extremely useful in the grouse woods.

[Coffinmaker]

  Hey There Bill 

Yep.  I can agree.  CAVEAT:  I found, a "Coach Gun" or "Riot length" gun, with changeable choke tubes can be righteously effective in the field.  Also, in my sordid past, I was known to embarrass some folks with big buck Skeet Guns with my lowly shorty 1897.  Stuck a Skeet choke innit and made powdered clays wid the best of em.  Same same results with my Hammer doubles.  Modern ammunition makes all the difference with the right payload and the right wads.

The weight of longer barrels does have the effect of aiding the shooter with "follow through" when Wing shooting or Clay Birds.  I happen to like the quickness of shorter barrels.  "Never Met A Barrel Too Short". Well, almost true but that's another thread.

[Coffinmaker]

  I forgot 

Once more commonly found in the Wild, I can see that Rock Island Hammer Double as a real boon to CAS shooters looking for an affordable Hammer Double.  I don't think the Aluminum Alloy Receiver will be an issue at all.

Let's face it, they make auto loading pistols with plastic frames these days. (Yech)

[Major 2]

And Alloy framed Auto loaders too...



 

[Coffinmaker]

And Plastic Car Bodies.

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

reloading presses and airplanes.

[Reverend P. Babcock Chase]

Oh yeah, There's lawn chair aluminum and then there's aircraft aluminum alloy.