Author Topic: 1859 Sharps Reline UPDATE! (Read 5203 times)

rbertalotto · « **on:** June 04, 2018, 10:09:17 AM »

Got the liner chamber reamed and LocTited into the old barrel!

Read about this part of the adventure here:

www.rvbprecision.com

rbertalotto · « **Reply #1 on:** June 05, 2018, 02:11:23 PM »

Yup...It Shoots!

50 yds / 430g LEE / 70g Shockey FFG / CCI LR Mag Primers

Bench rested:

Off Hand:

I drifted the sight over and the next few shots were spot on windage.

Interestingly, I made a front sight out of a brass door lock key. Made it tall and took a file to the range. With a 6-O'clock hold, at 50yds, it was near perfect elevation!

Tomorrow I'll load some more ammo and take it out to 100yds and 200yds

Coal Creek Griff · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2018, 02:52:59 PM »

Nice! Thanks for letting us follow along as you brought this rifle back to life!

CC Griff

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Drydock · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2018, 02:58:15 PM »

Need a photo of the rifle, particularly the muzzle, love to see how it finished out.

rbertalotto · « **Reply #4 on:** June 06, 2018, 03:14:52 PM »

will do! Stay tuned

rbertalotto · « **Reply #5 on:** June 06, 2018, 06:17:59 PM »

I updated the web site article with lots of pictures....

www.rvbprecision.com

Drydock · « **Reply #6 on:** June 06, 2018, 06:31:24 PM »

NICE! I like that its 6 groove like the original Sharps barrels. BTW, Lee grades it's Black Powder bullets by pure lead weight, that's why the difference. You're finding out just how easy it is to make the old .50 Gubmint shoot!

Major 2 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 06, 2018, 06:42:51 PM »

GREAT read....

PJ Hardtack · « **Reply #8 on:** June 07, 2018, 10:59:23 AM »

Another 50-70 lover! Great cartridge for a Cowboy shooter.

Blair · « **Reply #9 on:** June 07, 2018, 12:41:54 PM »

I built myself up a sporting rifle around an original '59/'63 Sharps lock plate.
These percussion to center fire conversions were chambered in the 44/77 Sharps Sporting Rifle or 50/70 Gov.
However, at the time of the build the 44/77 was either not available or in the case of the 50/70 brass was too expensive at $2.50 (+) each. I chose to chamber it in 45/70.
My 405 Lyman bullets, in pure lead, cast in at 420 grs. This worked out fine at the 600 meter range I had access too.
With BP and a rot at 1-16 and a 30" barrel the 420 gr. bullets worked fine if I did my job with the sight corrections. I did not like the felt recoil of a full match in the 45/70 at what would be thought of as mid range for this cartridge.
My best,
Blair

rbertalotto · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2018, 06:20:11 AM »

Range report ...part II
Took it out to 100 and 200 yards. Although my fabricated from a door key front sight had me right on target at 50 yards, out at 100 yards I was about 12”” high. Although this front sight is very high, it isn’t high enough for my loads. His is using the lowest position on the elevator on the sight. With the sight folded down, I can not see the “V” as the stop screw for the elevator is in the way.

At 200 yards I was still high by a few inches.

Looking in my various Sharps books, I’m not seeing any carbines with such a high front sight.

Strange situation. Not sure how I’m going to handle this.

wildman1 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2018, 09:02:24 AM »

Lighter bullet? Less powder? Real BP?
Any of the above should help.
wM1

Kent Shootwell · « **Reply #12 on:** June 11, 2018, 11:36:51 AM »

As Wildman 1 said a lighter bullet will impact lower. The time the bullet is in the barrel and the recoil impulse raises the barrel which produces higher impact at short range targets. Back in the 80s I worked for C. Sharps building and testing custom Sharps. At that time I had to explain this same issue to people and some had a hard time excepting the concept. With your fast for caliber rifling may limit how light a bullet will group for you but that's the path I would try.

Also you done a wonderful job getting the old Sharps back in shooting order, Thanks from a old Sharps shooter.

Trailrider · « **Reply #13 on:** June 11, 2018, 03:52:54 PM »

I wonder what the POI would be at 332 yds? IIRC (without digging out some official references), the .50-70's were "combat zeroed" at about that range. The "danger space" at closer ranges thus created were to allow a standing man or a mounted rider and his horse to be hit without major adjustment to the sights. As I was more interested in "staying on the paper" with an original Sharps carbine .50-70 conversion, I substituted a taller front sight made, IIRC, of a nickel or a dime.

Sounds like you are spot on with your conversion!

Drydock · « **Reply #14 on:** June 12, 2018, 07:16:52 PM »

Also, that Shockys/APP is a bit anemic compared to the real stuff. That would lower your impact point as well, using the same weight bullet. (More velocity = less barrel time = bullet departs at a lesser angle of elevation.)

And Sharps are SOOOO easy to clean!

rbertalotto · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2018, 08:27:31 PM »

I’ll try real BP at the next range session.

wildman1 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2018, 09:17:34 AM »

Use OE or Swiss if you can't find OE probably 1 1/2 or2f.
wM1

Drydock · « **Reply #17 on:** June 13, 2018, 12:12:17 PM »

Interesting if meaningless fact to me is that the .50-70 Government loading has both the same case length and OAL length as the current 5.56.

rbertalotto · « **Reply #18 on:** June 13, 2018, 12:38:24 PM »

Synchronicity?

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