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GOT ME A WEBLEY
« on: December 20, 2006, 04:39:45 PM »
I just secured the winning bet on a Webley in 38 S&W.  It's at 99 percent and was only 375....
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2006, 04:41:50 PM »
Congratulations! 
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2006, 05:10:53 PM »
And here she is....
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2006, 05:52:32 PM »
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2006, 05:56:35 PM »
Major;

You really need a copy of Small Arms of the World.

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Why's that.  Now I know it ain't NCOWS Legal, but it's always been a "want to have."
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2006, 06:10:56 PM »
I was trying to be subtle and not come across as an authentiicy Nazi. :-[ ;D

It looks like your new toy is in remarkable condition.  Many (most) were pretty well used up.

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P.S. Small Arms of the World is a great reference.  Anastasia's Books has 3 copies. ;)
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2006, 06:54:17 PM »
Come on Books, don't be bashful, they are reasonably priced too! ;D ;D  And you ship most anywhere! ::)

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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2006, 07:31:17 PM »
That one is likely a WWII specimen, if it is in .380 / 200, aka .38 S&W.
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2006, 07:35:52 PM »
That's what I was thinking.  I have a collection going of MBR's and pistols from all the major nationalities that took place in WW2.

A Garand and a 45.  A K98 and a P38, now an Enfield and the Webley.   I will eventually get around to picking up a Japanese set...Ariska and a Nambu I believe.  I have a Nagant and a M44 Carbine.
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2006, 11:27:06 PM »
MML:

Sounds like a good buy!
375? Dollars or pounds??   ;D

Utsa see them for sale on SGN ads a lot.
Probably a lot more scarce now.  ::)

Congrats on a good buy.
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2006, 12:13:37 AM »
MG,

Wouldn't be a very good buy if it was 375 Pounds Sterling.  That would be right at $725. :o :o  Maj. Matt has better sense than that! ;D ;) ;D  Congrats MM.  Looks like a fine toy! :D ;D :D
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2006, 11:47:46 AM »
Nice Webley, Richard!  As you likely already know (and as already alluded to in this thread) the .380 service revolver cartridge was really a British military version of the .38 Smiith and Wesson (... i.e. not  the .38 Special ...) so regular commercially loaded .38S&W ammo can be used, and reloading dies are easily obtained.  One note, however: the British loading originally used a 200gr. lead bullet (later changed to a 178gr jacketed bullet because it was felt that the non-jacketed pill offended the Hague Convention restriction on expanding bullets) with the result that the much lighter projectiles found in over-the-counter .38S&W will print very low ...

Also, while not wanting to rain on your understandably joyful parade, I perhaps should mention that the Webley .380 MKIV revolver (such as you have acquired) wasn't the UK's primary-issue handgun in WWII - that honour is held by the Enfield .380 No. 2 revolver (Marks I and I*) ....  :-\  The Enfield is quite similar in over-all appearance and even in mechanical design (indeed, one school of thought contends that the designers at Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield simply "ripped off" most of their design from the Webley MkIV)  but there are definitely significant differences, and parts do not interchange ....

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the Webley MkIV .380 (bottom) with the Enfield No. 2 MkI (by the way, the MKI* was the commonly-seen later version with no hammer spur, so that it could only be fired double-action):


On the bright side, during the dark days of WWII, the UK did  contract with Webley for MkIV revolvers, to supplement supplies, so the model is a British service revolver, albeit secondary issue ...  Just think, however - this simply gives you an excuse to keep looking ... to add a .380 Enfield to your collection (and also at least one good .455 Webley, so that you have a NCOWS-legal British top-break revolver .... ;)   ;D
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2006, 04:27:58 PM »

Also, while not wanting to rain on your understandably joyful parade, I perhaps should mention that the Webley .380 MKIV revolver (such as you have acquired) wasn't the UK's primary-issue handgun in WWII - that honour is held by the Enfield .380 No. 2 revolver (Marks I and I*) ....  [quote

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Major;

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Your collection of Battle rifles and sidrearms of various countries sounds neat.  The best displays at the collectors gun shows are always themes like you are working on.

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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2006, 07:27:24 PM »
I picked up the ol' Gal today and she is SWEET.  A natural pointer too...
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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2006, 08:41:15 PM »
MML:

Can you use .45 Colt dies & a diff shellholder on them?

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Re: GOT ME A WEBLEY
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2006, 07:30:55 PM »
Gregg,

It's a .38 S&W.
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