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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => 1860 Henry => Topic started by: treebeard on February 28, 2020, 02:02:22 PM

Title: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: treebeard on February 28, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
In looking at purchasing older Italian production Henry?s should there be a concern with parts availability that are compatible with these older rifles? By older I would say pre 2000. I have read in the past that some changes in dimensions have been made in the Henry and 1866 operating components.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Tuolumne Lawman on February 28, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
I do know that the receivers are different on older Uberti Henry rifles.  In the last 15 years or so, they lengthened the the threaded portion on the barrel that screws into the receiver, so the front of the receiver is longer.  I know because I tried to mount an early Uberti 1860 44-40 barrel on a modern Uberti.  I believe ther have been a few minor changes also inside.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Major 2 on February 28, 2020, 03:03:16 PM
parts for older Henry's are not supported other than maybe on someone else's gun..

as TL said the receiver is shorter

also the carrier- ,bolt  - firing pin  - barrel - lever none of which will interchange

if the old is Henry is in good shape and its plan is lighter use and the price was ....well very low  :-\   ,,then ,,,naught Id sill pass
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: treebeard on February 28, 2020, 04:52:53 PM
Thanks Tuolumne & Major? that is what I needed to know. I would not want to wind up with even a cheap wall hanger.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Coffinmaker on February 28, 2020, 06:40:11 PM

PLUS ONE too What them other's said
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Buck Stinson on February 28, 2020, 09:39:48 PM
If you're  looking at a specific gun, you didn't  mention what brand.  You'll  find Navy Arms and Uberti.  Back in the mid 80's Allen Arms in Santa Fe was importing the Uberti.  I traded for one new in the box, back in 1986.  I had it engraved with an original Samuel Hoggson pattern and then antiqued it.  Looks like 150 year old Henry in fine but used condition.  Allen Arms eventually became Cimarron  Arms.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: nativeshootist on February 29, 2020, 06:22:00 PM
honestly i'd still buy it. a cheap henry is a cheap henry. back in '16 i almost bought an American Arms henry for 600$, wasn't fast enough and lost out on it. still wish i bought it. a well taken care of gun will outlive most if not all of its owners. just depends on if you're tossing it around and stuff.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Tuolumne Lawman on March 02, 2020, 09:47:00 AM
I agree with Native Shootist.  While I love my HRA 1860, I would have no qualms about shooting any Uberti 1860.  I have been shooting CAS since 1994, and in all those years have only had to replace the loading spoon on an Uberti 1866. Most of that time (probably 20 years worth) was Uberti 1860 or 1866. The rest was Marlin, Chiappa Spencer, or original 1873.

When I had an original 1873 for a couple years, I replaced links, firing pin, and two extractors.
Title: Re: Older Italian Henry?s parts compatibility?
Post by: Speedballalice on March 03, 2020, 08:35:08 PM
I have a Henry from the early 90s and a blued iron frame Henry from the early 2000s. Both are Navy Arms guns. I can say the tang screws are different and the follower has a rubber insert on the later gun.
I ordered some new tang screws for the older gun and they were the normal tapered head. The ones on the gun were squared off on the underside. The holes in the tang were different also and would no let the newer screws sit flush. Just another observation.