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Re: Webley?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2016, 12:50:42 PM »
Roughly the equivalent of someone preferring to pack a 1911 in order to be ensured of more knockdown power than a 9mm can hope to deliver!

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2016, 01:26:48 PM »
There were literally hundreds of thousands of original Mark VI Webley revolvers produced ... I foresee little or no need (... or market ...) for a resumption of production ... 

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That's very true, I'd just feel bad abusing an original too much. Same reason why I'm a little easier on my original firearms vs my reproductions.

But oh well, it looks like it's a moot point.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2016, 03:50:14 PM »
I shot a Webley Mark IV once. Found it very well made, agreeable and most accurate. If one in good condition crosses my path I'll buy it.

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Re: Webley?
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2016, 03:56:39 PM »
But in truth, that's 'not' a reproduction as reproductions are commonly viewed.

That's merely a continuation of the factory line - for the factory - albeit done off-shore.

Were they built here - by American workers - no one would want to pay the freight added on by benefits packages and demands, and the company would die.

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Lets visit that point a moment .... " continuation of the factory line - for the factory " 

It is a continuation of the Olin " owned Brand

The Winchester factory failed in 1931 ... Merged with  Simmons Hardware , Bankrupted and bought at auction by the Olin 's Western Cartridge Company.
Winchester-Western Division failed in the 70's and New Haven plant incorporated as the U.S. Repeating Arms Company closed.
And U.S. Repeating Arms went bankrupt in 1989, the name sold to (FN) Fabrique Nationale d'Herstal.
Olin has leased the Winchester in name only to Miroku Corp.
Olin will cease to manufacture Winchester Brand  ammunition in it's Indiana facility, closing its doors by the end of 2016.
Not sure if they will Pimp the Ammo Brand as well ...  :-\


Sorry...back to subject Webley's  :)



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Re: Webley?
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2016, 04:49:40 PM »
And yet, it matters little...

No one recognized 'Olin' as a firearms manufacturer - but they 'do' recognize 'Winchester' - and when 'the factory' gets mentioned - it 'isn't' the Olin operation they recognize.

Geez, Louise - look at Colt and count who's owned them - S&W, too.

Now - going back to the Webley - in specific, the 'Webley-Fosbery'.

I used to think that longslide .45s were 'different' when fired, but the Webley-Fosbery takes the cake, since there's a weird, 'rail-car uncoupling' feeling, but they're unbelievably cool.

As to 'abusing' one - if you're doing that - stop it and sell the piece, but if you're merely shooting it - well, they were built to shoot, so do that - it's not going to hurt it.

Just don't suddenly decide that you're going to 'compete' with it like some SASS-mad shootin' fool - the originals never fired 'that' many in their combat careers...

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2016, 05:06:10 PM »
Abusing wasn't the right term, but carrying around the family farm or as a woods gun, that kind of stuff. If I drop a repro, I'll swear and be mad at myself, but I won't feel quite as a bad about it as I would with an original piece. But point taken.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2016, 05:17:06 PM »
Get a 5 1/5" Ruger Blackhawk in 357 for a work gun, hard to go wrong with that combo and Ruger makes more all the time.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2016, 05:30:00 PM »
As far as damaging an "original", I figure I'm as much a part of its history as anyone else that's owned it.  I don't abuse stuff, but if a few dings happen as part of using it, I don't get upset about it.  I like to think the men who built the stuff we shoot built it to be used, not just to look at. 
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2016, 09:43:47 PM »
I like to think the men who built the stuff we shoot built it to be used, not just to look at. 

I'm fully onside with Ned!  As many GAF members are aware I do use (and compete with) many of my collectible firearms - original Snider-Enfield, Martini-Henry and Magazine "Long Lee" rifles as well as a variety of Victorian-era British (and American-made) handguns.  As my good friend says ... they were made to be used

There were two of my antique British handguns in service during the main skirmish matches at the 2013 GAF Muster - my .476 Webley-Pryse revolver (in the hands of another good friend well-known in these parts) and also my .455/.476 Webley W.G. Army revolver (in my hands) .... both of which are older (and more valuable, for that matter) than a relatively run-of-the-mill 20th Century Webley Mark VI ...






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Re: Webley?
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2016, 09:57:56 PM »
Jack, I cannot get over how fantastic your collection is. And fair enough, point taken. Nothing wrong with some good honest wear, I suppose.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2016, 10:11:53 PM »
Some might say I'm overly careless with my firearms because I've got too many ....   :-\
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2016, 01:18:38 AM »
Hooray!

I whined about another factory failure and got lots folks to post pictures of their originals for us to admire and covet ....

I win!

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2016, 07:28:04 PM »
Get a 5 1/5" Ruger Blackhawk in 357 for a work gun, hard to go wrong with that combo and Ruger makes more all the time.


41 Mag

 
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2016, 07:32:17 PM »
41 Mag

 

More for the specialty person, the average person would be better with the 357, my choice is a 32 mag loaded to 327 S&W specs and has been for 30 years.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2016, 08:31:48 PM »
If you're tired of the political ads, make it a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine.  After about three rounds you won't be able to hear them any more!
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2016, 09:15:46 PM »
If you're tired of the political ads, make it a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine.  After about three rounds you won't be able to hear them any more!

True and I've always kinda wanted one but I hear hand loads with cast bullets of 150 gr and up are a lot nicer, like the differance in my 32 between 85's hot and 122's hot, night and day.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2016, 11:36:56 AM »
Two weapons almost took my moustache off when I first fired them - the .30M1 Carbine Ruger and the XM177E1.

Starry-eyed, was I...

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2016, 01:43:14 PM »
Member Garry James 577 Snider Howada pistol looks like it would also, I passed because of my wrist problems, everyone might have got very hungry had I tried it.
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Re: Webley?
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2016, 07:38:50 PM »
I shot it with both his "light" loads and regular .577 service loads. It wasn't as bad as you might think, except for the fact that it was designed as a one hand gun. If you use two hands, the knob on the bottom of the trigger guard/latch bangs into the support hand's knuckles pretty hard. It has a lot of muzzle rise, but I think full house loads in my S&W .41 mag have a lot sharper recoil.

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Re: Webley?
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2016, 03:08:16 AM »
I shot it with both his "light" loads and regular .577 service loads. It wasn't as bad as you might think, except for the fact that it was designed as a one hand gun. If you use two hands, the knob on the bottom of the trigger guard/latch bangs into the support hand's knuckles pretty hard. It has a lot of muzzle rise, but I think full house loads in my S&W .41 mag have a lot sharper recoil.

That's why they're called handguns not handsguns.  ::)

 

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