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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => BOLD Chambers => Topic started by: Wiley Desperado on May 16, 2004, 09:53:09 PM
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My first duty pistol was a model 28 S&W, 357 mag with about a 4 5/8" barrel. No speed loaders, they hadn't been invented yet, I don't think. Carried twelve extra rounds in a slip on bullet holder on the right front of my sam brown.
wiley ::)
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Don't remember the model, but mine was also a S&W .38 Special with about a 4 5/8" bbl. Carried 6 extra rounds on the belt; I too was awaiting the invention of the speed loader. ;D
After a couple of years keeping it cleaned and oiled, I had it nickle plated.
If I remember correctly, we couldn't carry a .357. ???
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WD,
This is a great post.......it sure takes me back some years. My first duty gun was also a Smith & Wesson "N" frame, Model 28, Highway Patrolman. Again, this was in the days "Pre-speed loader", so I carried my extra 12 rounds in 6 round Bianchi speed strips. We were issued full house .357 magnum rounds back then and they were screamers!!!!!!
Talk about a "Big iron"......that gun was sure a major piece of steel. This was when the smaller, "K" frame, Model 19's were coming out and everyone had to have one of those. I stuck with my Highway Patrolman until we were allowed to switch to the higher capacity semi-auto handguns for duty use....
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My first duty weapon was a Colt "Trooper", .357, target grips & hammer (big hands). Purchased new long ago for the steep price of $50.00! Sorry to say the guy offered me a "Python" for $75.00 but I could not afford it. :o
Still have that weapon in my gun case! ;D
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My first duty weapon was a blue Model 19 Smith with a 12 round loop on my belt. By the time the speed loaders came around I was carrying a Model 39 nickel plated 9mm.
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When I joined our local Sheriff's Office we were issued S&W model 65 .357 cal. I had a 2 1/2" model 66 for an off duty gun. I went to work for a city department where I was issued a S&W model 64 in .38 spl. Couldn't carry my 66 off duty, loaded with .38's. as .357 magnums weren't authorized. ???
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:) My first duty pistol was a 9 mm Tarsus I love it and I hated it. But, it helped me when I got in close spots
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My first and only duty gun was a S&W 19 just .38's, we did get speed loaders and that was the gun turned in when I retired. :'( Loved that gun, wish I had it today. :'(
Ladylaw :)
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Started with a S&W Model 10. Nickel plated, with a 4" bull barrel.
Carried that until I could afford a Model 19. That Model 19 was the best gun ever. I've kicked myself many times for getting rid of it. Had a model 64, 66, 686, Glock 17, and Glock 21(current) but the old Smith 19 was a tack driver fer shure.
(we won't go into the truckload of off-duty guns ;))
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My first duty pistol was a Colt Pythom (.357). We had to supply our own firearms. I loved that pistol, gave it to my wife when I could switch to an auto-loader. That was a Colt Combat Commander. Now that I'm retired, I carry a Colt Combat Commander.
Tascosa
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357 S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman 4" barrel. Man that thing was a monster and good shooter.
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9mm Beretta 92. I took the Top Gun trophy in my academy class with it. I just loved the weapon. I still keep one loaded at home for that midnite intruder.
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.357 S&W Mod 681...with .38Spl +P Ammo...That gun was a tack driver...always regretted not buying kine back when we switched to Glock in 92
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Another proud packer of the S&W Highway Patrolman 4". I had a neon green insert added to the front sight and put Mustang rubber grips on it. Good gun. WIsh I still had it.
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Started with a Ruger Security Six. Moved to a S&W Model 639 and then to a S&W 4516
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First duty pistol was a S&W Model 10 in .38 Special - "Gawd, but that seems to be ages ago.......!"
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When we got to buy our own, I got the Barretta 92 in 9 mm - first thing I ever shot with it was an oaken log in a fireplace box......got a call on a "Rabid Raccoon" and well, there it was......! (Second shot did get the 'coon! I was young and alittle scared!)
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Having spent some time in the MP's - naturally, my first duty pistol was an M1911A1 and my second an M9.
Both fit my hand well and both did the job asked of them.
Scouts Out!
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model 10 with a 4 inch Bull barrel, it was a fine shooter, then a model 92 which I hated but they were DOC issue and that was what we had to live with.
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In my days in the Air Force MP in Norway, I carried a Walther P38 in 9 mm.
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.38 special with 4 inch barrel. Don't remember the model :'(
Lawdawg
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My first duty pistol was a 4" S&W Model 19 which I had to "give" to my wife when I bought a nickel plated 4" S&W Model 27 to carry on duty. Someone gave me one of the infamous "clamshell" holsters, where you'd push a button inside the trigger guard to pop the holster open. It could be deadly if it failed to open though. Someone else saw that, and gave me a drop holster with a swivel, so you could swivel it up in the seat in the cruiser. You couldn't draw your weapon while seated in the car very well though.
Then I moved up to a 4" S&W Model 29, which I carried loaded with .44 Specials while working in town for the PD, and loaded with .44 Magnums when working out in the county for the Sheriff's Dept. There were some long shifts where I thought about borrowing my wife's gun back because it was a lot lighter. I carried the Model 27 and Model 29 in a good A.E. Nelson front break holster for many years.
I finally succumbed to the Siren's call to switch to an autoloader and got a Glock Model 22C in 40 S&W, but I'm still a fan of big bore revolvers. :)
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S&W Mdl. 19, 4" nickel. Switched to a Mdl. 65 4" after about a year. Carried a Colt Commander .45ACP for plain clothes & undercover when working those type venues. Carried the Colt for all off-duty time until moving to Texas, when I qualified with my Colt SAA .45. Have 'em all except the Mdl. 19. Finally resigned about 2 years ago, and still miss it (sometimes).
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My First duty weapon was a S &W Model 10, Blued 38 spl, fixed sights, 158 gr round nose lead bulltets, 12 extra rounds in a drop pouch, carried her in a border patrol one strap holster. Had her until we got the S & W Model 66, sixgun.
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My first duty gun was a S&W mod 19 4", it was purchased from a desk ofc. for $ 90.00, in the early days all equip. was private purchase. Your badge was only item issued by Dept. No vest, port.radio, computers, sure have come a long way.
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Let's see. . .When I was a Reserve Officer it was a .357 Dan Wesson with a 4 inch bull barrel. I carried a S&W 459 9mm when I worked with the Contsable's office and the good ol .45 when I was with the MP's. Now I carry a S&W 910 at my current job.
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Mine was a S&W Model 10. Not a bad shooting little revolver.
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.45 Detonics in stainless. Love that little beast! I worked in a non-uniform job, and all equip other than the badge and ID were private purchase, and if you could qualify with it, you could carry it .... made for some entertaining times at the range watching folks qualify with outrageous stuff.
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S&W M-19, 4" in a swivel holster, Sam Browne with double dump boxes... I retired so long ago I never had to wear a vest...
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My first one was a S&W Mod. 28 6". But I switched to a 4" Colt Tooper Mark III after about a year. I think it cost me about $115. I put Pachmeyer rubber grips on it cause I was banging up the wood ones on the cruiser steering wheel. I carried it in a Bill Jordan holster. In 76 we switched to the S&W Mod. 59 9mm. I didn't trust it & felt the 9mm just didn't have the stopping power. So I asked the chief if I could carry a 1911. he gave me the go ahead & I carried one for many years.
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A well worn, but decent shooting pencil barreled Model 10 Smith. That was replaced by a new Model 10, bull barrel. Both were blue.
I was in K-9 at the time and between the dog slobberin' on it and the windex over-spray (constantly washin' nose prints off the windows) it turned orange in a hurry. They issued us bull barrel 64s.
My first 64 didn't feel right. The trigger felt like it was tryin' to bind on return. The RO got tired of me whinin' about it and pulled it apart. The trigger fell out when the side plate was removed. I was issued another.
Somewhere around '90 or '91, I was in IA at the time, they phased out the revolvers for 6906 Smiths. The vendor we dealt with allowed us to buy our revolvers if we wanted and I wanted. It's in the safe. The trigger has been polished smooth and it sports a set of Hogues these days. I'm rather fond of that revolver.
The 6906 wasn't half bad for plain clothes work. We shot them twice a year. She hung once and that was well into a re-qualification session. The RO gave me a new slide spring. Not sure it was necessary, just think the thing was filthy.
Uniform guys started getting 5946 DAOs. They decided it would be good for everyone to carry that. I was close to retiring at the time and I tried to keep a low profile because I wanted to keep my 6906. But they caught up with me, took my 6906 and gave me this monster.
It's nice. Shoots like a .22 it's so damned big and heavy. It was brand new in the box when it was issued to me in '97 or '98. When I retired, I bought it from the City. Still carry it occasionally. Depends on how I'm dressed.....
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My first was a S&W model 19. Speed loaders in 1967?? Mercy we had one choice 158 grn 38 spl rounds, 357 was forbidden, thats what started me hand loading. Got me a S&W model 29 later 44 mag and shot 44 spls out of it till the Glock 40 came along. Now me I'm out to pasture, and I sits in the sun and shoots my Remmies for fun. ;D
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My first was a S&W 66 4" dump pouches but we could use "speed strips" so the ammo wasn't completely loose. Bought the gun from my brother-in-law who was in Highway patrol in Mo. Great gun, but full-house .357 loads made it talk.
Doolin Riggs
SASS #32020
BOLD #240
US Army 71-76
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My first duty pistol was a 6" Colt Python. Shot DX with it in the academy. That big hawg leg sure helped build up my shoulder and arm muscles on felony stops! Carried it on a small local PD and the L.A. Sheriff's. I transferred to a larger city PD and carried a 1911 for over a decade, then switched to a Glock 21 while I was a SWAT cop. I still carry the G-21. The Colt Python is in my safe with my greatgrandfather's pistol from the Chicago PD both to be passed down to my son one of these days.
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S&W model 586 4 inch, which was at the time all I could carry as the department didn't provide autos to it's reserves and I couldn't afford to buy one and go through transition class. Two years later I went full time with another department and carried a Glock 40 cal., but bought a 586 anyway because it was just one of those well balanced, accurate guns you fall in love with!
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Started wit a S&W Model 66 with dump pouches, next was S&W 686 with speed loaders, next S&W 5906 with dual mags/pouch, currently Sig Sauer P229 .40. I was/am fond of my 686. No offense to autoloaders, I'm just an old wheelgunner.
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My first duty gun was a Browning 9mm, we only carried 10 rounds so as to save the mag spring, plus we carried an extra mag.
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29 years at a glance: My first duty pistol(s) was/were a 4", nickel plated, rubber Pachmyr gripped, S&W Model 28 Highway Patrolman, in .357 mag on the strong side backed up by a blue S&W Model 39 (9mm), carried crossdraw on the weak side, backed up by a High Standard derringer (.22 mag). Next were a brace of nickeled, consecutive serial numbered, Model 59s (9mm), followed by a brace of Glock 17s (9mm), followed by a Glock 22 & 27 (.40 S&W). As I now have pretty much gone away from carrying two primary pistols, the Glock 27 has been sold and my 4" stainless, S&W "N' frame, in .45c, performs 2nd primary gun duty when I feel the need (the Glock 22 remains my primary duty pistol). While not as modern as my Glock, but for sheer intimidation value, the S&W is almost as effective as a nickel plated, double barrel, SxS, 12 gauge (which is what I carried with me in suburban Chicago, in the late 1970s). I also note, that after selling the High Standard derringer about 1980 something, the back up to my back up gun has been a Beretta M21 (.22). Earlier this year, I tried a new Kel-Tec 3AT (.380) to replace the Beretta, but it kept ejecting magazines in my pocket. I sold it after 3 months and my 20 yr old Beretta is back in the pocket. (Note #1: I have owned many guns over the years, but the aforementioned guns were/are the actual duty guns I used/use daily. Note: #2: Not an on-duty gun, but close, was my long time off-duty gun which was a Colt New Service (large frame), in .45 Colt, with barrel cut to about 3" and finished in custom nickel with very attractive wood grips.)
Note: On 11/16/06 I removed my original (and inaccurate) comments regarding my Ruger Blackhawk. I somehow got on a tangent and confused the gun with my S&W "N" frame. Don't have a clue how I did this, but it's fixed now. Also, since my original post, I have sold my Beretta M-21 and am now using my AMT .380 back up as a back up to my back up.
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Started with 6" colt Trooper , went to 4" 66, then Nickel 4" 29. went to Beretta 92 9mm then to Beretta .40. traded the .40 in on my CAS rifle
still have my father in laws model 10. He was the Chief when I started in 78, I took over in 89 forced retirement 99 (small town politics)
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My first duty weapon was a S&W model 15 in 4" bbl. Two dump pouches as speed loaders weren't invented yet (1969). The department issued model 39's in the early 70's.
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S&W Chief Special 38 Special with choice of 158 grain lead or Super Vels. We wrecked a lot of pieces at the Treasury Department. That was in the mid-70's. I am about to retire and we carry 357 SIG in Sig 229's. Several guns in between.
Blackhawk Paul
SASS Life
BOLD 213
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Howdy folks,
My first Duty Weapon was an S&W Model 14- inch. I wanted a Model 15 but the supplier, F. Cake and Company, was out of Model 15 s and I needed a gun right away.
I was a reserve at the time and had to buy my own gun and leather. I paid $85.00 for that Mod. 14 back in 1971 and then traded it off for a mod. 19- 4 “ in .357 Mag. Boy was I stupid. I could hit the X ring all day long with that Mod 14 but had a hell of a time shooting that Mod. 19 anywhere near as well.
I got rid of the Mod 19 and went to a SIG P-220 in .45 and never looked back.
I still miss that Model 14. I would buy another one just to have it to shoot. It was a great gun.
Your pard,
Marshal Law
SASS# 854
BOLD# 74
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My first was a .45 auto when I was an MP. I think it was one of the original .45's and it rattled a bit when ya shook it-but I sure did enjoy shooting it.
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Like so many others have said, I had to buy my own gun and it was a S&W model 10 and a buddy bought a Colt Trooper. I aquired several S&W pistols over the years, and likewise he acquired several Colts. Now my S&W's are valued at barely what I paid for them and his Colts are off the charts. But, that was the only mistake I ever made in 33 years of law enforcement!
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I'll jump in here. My first duty gun was a S&W Model 10, but I didn't have it for long, since we were transitioning away from them. I quickly switched to a Glock 17. After a few years, I switched again to a Sig P220, then policies changed and I had to go to a Beretta 96D >:(. Now we've switched again and I carry a Kimber Pro Carry HD ;D.
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Worked fer a security company long ago guardin' a glass plant where they was a strike in force an' non-union workers was comin' in to do the jobs. I carried a pre-Model 10, four-inch pencil-barrelled S&W M&P .38 Special with 158 grain SWCs. (The security company management was enlightened fer the day.) I also carried a three-inch barrelled Colt Detective Special in my back pocket.
Then,...I joined the Army an' my badge-wearin' (commissioned "Special Deputy") days was over.
ECS
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Fall 1968 in rookie school. Bought brand new S&W model 19 4" blued. (Got it nickeled a few years later. No stainless then). Paid $85.00 Put on my charge card. Course I was only making $650.00 a month. (Pension checks are almost 5 times that now).
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My first civilian department duty gun was also a S&W Mdl 28 with the 4" barrel in 357 Mag. That was what the Georgia State Patrol was issued at the time. My department required officers to buy their own revolvers, so I went with what my brother, a Georgia State Trooper, carried. Bought it new in 1970 and still have it today.
We also bought our own ammo, and I carried Super Vel soft point hollow points. Anybody remember those?
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My first issue gun was a Smith & Wesson Military & Police Revolver in .38 Special, with the long, slender (pencil) 6 inch barrel. Started with loops on the belt, and eventually graduated to speedloaders. Next, we were issued the Smith & Wesson Model 15 Combat Masterpiece, with the 4 inch barrel. I switched offices, and we were issued Taurus .357s...I forget the exact model, but from a standpoint of quality, it was a HORRIBLE gun. When we switched to Semi-Automatics, we switched to the S&W Sigma in .40 cal., which was also of low quality. Finally, we switched to Glock 22s, also in .40, which is what we currently carry.
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My first duty pistol was/is my Glock 22 with a Glock 27 for a backup.
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My first was a Mod 10 M&P
As soon as I could afford it; I bought a Gold Cup.
Never carried any thing else.....
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Like Wiley I started out on the Highway Patrol in Texas with a model 28. Heavy as lead but it shot good. Issued us the "lubaloy" .357 mag. ammo in the academy. Replaced them with JHP's in the field. Bullet loops on the Sam Browne. Wonder what happened to that old gun? Had to turn it in when I left to work for a municipal police agency.
When speed loaders came out I got them quick. Carried a Model 29 in .44 mag for a while. The 28 and 29 would fit my highway patrol holster and the speed loaders fit the same case. CArried the .44 while I was working and the .357 when I went to the office. Figured that if I had to kill somebody, I'd come closer to killing him with the .44. Then I'd take the days off for using the wrong gun.
Since then I've carried .45s, 9's and now a Glock 22 in .40 cal. Still carrying a pistol for a living. 32 years now. Time flies, don't it.
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Like so many others here, it was a department issue S&W Model 10. As soon as I got out of the academy I got permission to carry my own Model 19. Department issue ammo was .38 Super-Vel.
Throughout my 25 year carreer;
S&W Mod. 10, 4", .38
S&W Mod. 19, 4", .357
S&W Mod. 27, 6", .357
S&W Mod. 686, 6", .357
Sig Sauer Mod. 220, .45
Department went to semi-auto's in the late 80's and I carried the Sig .45 to retirement. Still carry it today.
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My first duty pistol was a Colt 1911 Series 70 in 45 ACP that was tuned up for duty carry. We were allowed to carry whatever we qualified with. I used this pistol for IPSC (had a custom top end and extended barrel that I switched to for competition) and carried it until I left law enforcement. There were three of us on the dept. that were certified with 1911's and Milt Sparks made our duty rigs for us.
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Duty pistols as follows:
Colt Trooper 4" .357
Colt Trooper MKIII 4" .357
Smith and Wesson 66 4" .357
Smith and Wesson 66 2 1/2"(Issue plainclothes gun)
Smith and Wesson 1076 10mm semi auto
All but the original Colt Trooper now reside in my safe. We were allowed to purchase our old guns when a new one was issued. The 10mm was presented to me when I retired in '99. It's my least favorite gun. I loooove wheelguns.....or a 1911. :)
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Started out with a U.S. Army issued 1911 .45 as an MP, switched to the M9 Berretta when they finally got around to us. When I got out and became a civilian cop in my home town, I started out with a S&W model 10 .38 Spl., 4 inch heavy barrel that was nickled. As soon as I could I transitioned to the auto and carried a SIG P220 .45. Few years later I switched agencies and went to work for the state. They issued the Glock 22 in .40, and mandated it as the only gun to be carried on or off duty.. :( ??? :'( After a couple of years I switched to my current department and they carried the Glock 22 also. When we had problems with them and a new Chief came on board, he switched us to the SIG P220's as our uniform duty gun, and the P245's as a plain clothes gun, and allowed us to carry what we wanted off duty, so long as it was 9mm/.38 spl. or larger and reliable. I have since rotated through 3 P220's as they keep upgrading them with light rails, stainless slides, etc.
I still carry the P220 and, over all, am pretty happy with it. I got about 5 more years before I pull the plug and find something else to do and I intend to keep carring the P220, unless they let me move to a Kimber or Sig GSR 1911....
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First duty pistol: S&W Model 10 3" bull Barrel.
last duty pistol: see above ;D
Mick.
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As an Air Force Policeman I carried a Browning 9mm with an extra mag attached to the holster. When I was commissioned I had to trade it in for a Colt Cobra .38 spl.
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As an Air Force Policeman I carried a Browning 9mm with an extra mag attached to the holster. When I was commissioned I had to trade it in for a Colt Cobra .38 spl.
Seems a sure way to get shot, wearing different gear from the rest. I was a tank leiutenant and carried a rifle (not that I ever got in a shooting war), probably a bit of a wank, you can soon tell who the boss is, if you can't, shoot em all and put the poor sods out of their misery ;D
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Mine was a S&W 6906 9mm 12 rnd mag. beautiful stainless. Never had a malfunction "nines" have seem to have dropped from favor but I still have mine, its cheap to reload and practice with. I use it for a concealed carry piece often.
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My troops had to carry the obligatory M9 (Baretta 9mm). I got to carry a Sig 229. Carried that until I joined the shooting team, then got a Gold Cup. Loved that gun. Carried it all day every day, shot it several times a week. Never had a malfunction.
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My first was a 1911A1 Remington Rand. I was an MP in 1974. Went into MPI and trded it for a model 10 2" 38 Spcl (though on every 4th day when I was duty investigator, I still checked out my 45!) My first civilian Duty gun in 1977 was a Model 66 4 inch. The sgt. gave me the gun and a box of 50 Remington 125 grn JHP 357s. I asked when I got more ammo, and he said "When you bring me 50 dead bodies and 50 empty cases, son, I'll give you another box!"
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Howdy,
Back to my beginning in civilian LE, 1971, the department I started with didn't buy your handgun, you did and you could chose between a Smith or a Colt .38 or .357. I found a new 4" blued Colt Python .357 at a fair price and carried it for many years. After we switched to auto loaders, I later sold it when I was hard up for money. Now I wish I had kept it.
I'm with a different department now and we still have to buy our own handguns. We have the choice of about any quality brand and caliber. They decided a long time ago that sharing ammo wasn't a big concern. In fact, if you done used up all your ammo and didn't stop the threat, do ya really think I'm going to give you mine?!!! ;D
Well, like others have said, it was fun reminiscing. Have a good day ya all.
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After reading the posts,,,,,,,,, Im feelin like a pup (only in the game now for 9 years). My first gun and still is a Glock 22. The only change is that I went fron a 2nd Generation to a 3rd Gen. (one with the rails). God bless ya'll who made till retirement! I've got some time to go and some more roads to travel
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Rosco, I’ll be easy ta catch up with. All ya got left is twenty three years. I’d swap with ya if I could.
Maybe a l’il off topic, boys. I’m an ole time, die hard S&W double action revolver fan. I’ve had and still have a pile of ‘em. Still have the last one I was issued ‘n carried on duty, a 64. No one, ‘n I mean no one, kicked ‘n screamed any worse than I did when the department decided to go to self shuckers ‘n took my revolver away.
But, I gottah tell ya. Went to the police range to qualify to keep my HR 218 certification last week. There I sat in the classroom with my carry Glock, mag out slide back ‘n locked for inspection, in front of me. Off to the right was someone with an old S&W 36. Cylinder all hangin’ out. Gottah tell y’all, it looked like such an antique to me. Five cartridges ‘n I had eleven, after market floor plate for the 26’s mag. Eleven in a pistol I can shoot a group with at seven yards ya can cover with a Zippo lighter.
I’d have never, ever thought I’d be converted. But these days I’m collectin’ Glocks like I did Smiths years ago. Just stuck a 34 on lay away. Can’t hardly wait ‘til the taxes are done and I get my grubby l’il hands on it.
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My first duty pistol was a Smith & Wesson Model 10 .38 Spl. with a 4" bull barrel fine shooting peice. The next issued peice was a Smith & Wesson Model 66 .357 Mag. 4" barrel with stainless rear sights (1st Model). When I made Detective I changed from a Model 66 to a Model 60 .38Spl. 2" barrel. I felt a little light carring only the model 60 so with permission of the Chief I was allowed to carry a model 66 .357 Mag. 2 1/2" barrel. I carried that until we went to Sig Sauer P220's .45ACP and I carried that until shortly before I retired when we switched over to Glock's and I was issued a Glock 30 .45ACP (uniformed folks got the Glock 21). After I retired in North Carolina (1974 until 2000) , I went to work for the Federal Government my first issue with them was a Beretta model 92D slick slide 9mm and for the past 4 years I have had the Glock 23 .40, I guess that will be my last issue.
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My only "duty pistol" as a Canadian Army officer was the INGLIS made version of the Browning Hi-Power. A generation before its time, and still a pistol one can carry with confidence. I have a 1911 (NOT A1!) a Webley Mk VI and other ex-military pieces but my prize is a MINT Inglis Hi-Power. Remember that these pistols were made during WWII for China, Canada and the UK.
I'm not an LEO, but I have been a prosecutor for over 15 years. Hope you don't think me an interloper.
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Sir Charles... Prosecutors are still on the right side of the "Good vs. Evil" debate, so you can ride with my posse anytime... and I even promise to keep the "Lawyer" jokes to a minimum.... and occasionally use the term without sounding like I just currsed! ;) ;D
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... and I even promise to keep the "Lawyer" jokes to a minimum...
THEM ARE JOKES?! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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S&W Mod 681, bought myself. Now issued a Glock 22 & 23. I've also got my dad's last carry gun, a nickle Python
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My first duty revolver was a 6" Highway Patrolman(1973). I carried that until the sheriff issued every body model 59's 9MM that were were recalled after two months (due to very poor quality control issues )and replaced with 4 " model 66's. We carried 125 grain .357 mag rounds until there were problems with qualification and then ended up with 110 grain .357 mag rounds. We also changed from 00 buckshot to #4 buckshot as well.
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Might as well chime in here, too!! First duty weapon was a S & W model 10 with 4 inch pencil barrel nickel plated. We carried 6 extra rounds in a belt dump pouch and the holster was an old "suicide Strap" (border patrol)style. We transitioned to Beretta 9mm's and in March 2008 will go to the .40 cal.
EEJ
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S& W Model 19, then a S&W Model 686 and finally a Sig 220. They are all excellent duty weapons. The 220 will be my last.
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S&w model 10 then to Ruger GP 100 , to Sig 9mm and last but not least S&W 9mm RCMP Model Now retired and carry a pair of 51 Navy RM conversions ...the best of all :)
dutchie
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It was 1979 and I was proud to strap on a brand new Smith model 19 with a 4" bbl. Loaded it with Remington 125 grainers.
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Model 10 with a heavy barrel.
Member oif the Quick draw team had it before me. The trigger was so light that I had an AD with it less than an hour after they handed it to me. I returned it to the Armory and it scared the Amorer so much he issued me a NIB stainless Model 64 that was only going to Desk Jockeys who wouldn't wear the new guns out with a lot of needless shooting. Just like the new Units would be assgined to people who never FRIGGING went anywhere while the Patrolmen drove death traps and rolling wrecks.
Ahh the Good Old days, when Chiefs were miserable SOB's that made our Lives something to really compl;ain about. not like these mamby-oambies who complain if they have to work 15 minutes over now days. No! We walked to work a mile in the snow, UP HILL both ways for the pleasure of getting chewed out by a sergeant who was proud he had an IQ lower than tire pressure.
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S&W Mod. 10 with a 5" Heavy Barrel and a Winchester Mod. 1894.
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In 1971 I picked up a Colt ".357 magnum"...forerunner of the marks and nothing less than a Python with a plain barrel...and I loved it. Until I saw something else really nice. Over the next 25 years I carried many different weapons in both wheelgun and bottom feeder configurations. Colt Combat Commanders were my schtick for about 5 years and then I went through the "only a Smith M-28, 6" will do" period of time. One year it was a customized M-1917 Smith with a 4" Douglas bull barrel and night sights by Julio Santiago. In 1993 the department issued duty weapons for the first time and they were Beretta 96D Centurions and then in 1994 they were traded for Sig P-229s. That was what they were issuing when I said adios. Sometimes I sit and dream of finding some of the guns I have gone through over the years and sometimes I actually find something similar. My good wife is pretty unflappable about my guns and I now have too many to take to the range at one time to fire. Ain't life sweet? ;D
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S&W Model 15 and Model 10. I am glad we left those behind!
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I know this is a post almost two years old, but since I just got on the Cas City forum last Febuary and just joined the Bold Chambers recently, I'll tell ya all about my first duty weapon. I started out in law enforcement working as a reserve officer and later as a part-time officer in my home town which was only around 1000 population. The one and only patrol vehilce was a red and white Chevy pick-up with a big red bubble light on the top and a whailing siren that sounded just like Andy and Barneys (Andy Griffeth Show). The vehicle also double dutied as a street department vehicle during the day. The mayor in the town didn't think I needed a firearm, said if I ran into trouble, just call in a sheriffs deputy. Ya right-tell some dirt bag with a gun to stand at ease till a deputy comes half way across the county. So, not wanting to make the morning news at the local TV station of "Local Part-time Police Officer Gunned Down In Alley", I carried one on the sly. Not having a 'big bore' centerfire handgun other than a 1851 Colt copy 44 caliber Cap an Ball, I resorted to, hang onto yer socks, a Ruger Super Single Six-put the magnum cylinder in her, and kept it on the seat. After dark, I'd strap her on in a low slung 'Hunter" holster. I'd put six beans in the wheel too, figured since I could hit rolling beer and pop cans with ease, I could hit center mass with no problem or one between the eyes. Never had to draw it, thankfully, but it was better than getting a sand shovel out of the box of the pick-up and having to toss it at some hombre. There's a post on 'Your favorite duty pistol' on which I'll tell of that one. Still have the three screw Super-single six, still can make believers out of cans with it!
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Hate to admit it but my first duty weapon was a Llama .357. :-[ I was new to the gun scene & let the gun store guy talk me into buying it because it was 50 bucks cheaper than a Smith or Colt. :'( I'm thinkin' now he was able to sell it to anyone smart about guns!!
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My uncle Sam issued me my first duty gun a 1911A1 as an Army MP.
When I got my first civilian PD job I was informed that a 1911 wasn't an option. I went out and bought a S & W model 19 but I had a series 70 Colt 45 in my holster before the end of the first year.
Carried that Colt until a department change necessitated the purchase of a S & W 686. Series 70 was again quickly back in my holster until I upgraded it to a Delta Elite.
One last department change caused the purchase of a SIG 220. This time it took almost 7 years before I got my way and had a 45 Combat Commander in my holster. My day to day carry gun is currently a 45 Kimber Ultra CDP. I fully expect to continue to carry the 1911s until I retire, although I'm eligible, I'm in no hurry to do that any time soon.
Happy Trails
Bat
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S&W 38/44 Heavy Duty. It was an "N" frame fixed sighted .38 Special with a 4" barrel. The prior Inspector (Border Patrol Agents were called "Patrol Inspectors" or "PI's" back in 1969) had been left handed and had the front sight shaved to have his point of aim match his point of impact. It shot 18" to the left for me at 50 yards! To make matters worse, the rifling was almost gone and our duty load, the 38/44 (158 grain RNL @ ~ 915 f/s), key holed shortly after leaving the barrel. I couldn't keep wadcutters in the ten ring of a B-8 bullseye at 25 yards no matter how hard I tried.
I thought it was me until the old gun quit on me and I was issued a M&P 4" heavy barrel that was dead on at 25 and stayed in the "X" ring if I did my part. It had the old "Mule Ear" hammer though and I had to sneak over to a pistol smith to have a modern hammer installed. That was a great gun. It had a Patridge front sight that was a special order for the Border Patrol. (Please see attached photo.)
We loaded two at a time from loops and if one was quick it could be done in about 6 seconds.
KW
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I noticed some posts that said that they started with a revolver of one kind or another and were glad when they switched to semi-automatics.
Of my 33 years in the USBP 15 were spent as an Academy Firearms Instructor. The first nine were at FLETC in Glynco, GA where the students from 78 different agencies trained with revolvers. There was nary a malfunction except for some bad ammo we had for a while.
I then transferred back to the field and served as a sector range officer whenever we had our quarterly qualification. During that period the Agents were permitted to purchase and carry semi-automatics after receiving transition training. It was then that I began to experience what are called "alibi" shots during qualification due to malfunctioning semi-automatics. I kept remembering Bill Jordan's statement that "There are no alibis in a gun fight." There were so many in fact, that the time required to run our 72 round qualification course almost doubled!
My second Academy tour lasted six years and by that time all new Agents were training with semi-automatics. Malfunction and IA drills were just accepted by the Instructors and trainees as "Business as Usual." I was, and am still amazed at the difference I experienced between the malfunction rate of semi-automatics Vs revolvers in a law enforcement environment. For that reason I carry a wheelgun as a retired LEO and if I were back in the field (and had a choice) I would again carry the sixgun.
Respectfully,
KW
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I'm kinda new to the LEO game, having only been with the CHP for 6 years. First issue was the S&W 4006 in .40 S&W- Stainless. Was/ is a BRICK. Current issue is the S&W 4006 TSW...
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd38/acropilot19/IMG_3690.jpg)
Is still a Brick.
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Here's a fellow you might enjoy communicating with.
Former USMC and retired CHP who teaches gun fighting skills. http://www.gunfightersltd.com/
Great guy.
KW
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Why thankyou, I will check him out :)
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S&W model K 38 revolver, 4"
S&W Chief special 2"
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My first was a Colt Trooper .357. Speed loaders came out a little later and I bought some. I wish I never sold that gun.
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Mine was a Colt 1911 and 4 spare mags.
I'm still here because of that pistol ;)
Cheers,
LG
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Mine was a Model 65 Smith & Wesson, still have it.
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Working for Illinois Department of Corrections from 1991-2017 while working the Institutions we would be issued a S&W 64 4" revolver. When I went to Field Parole we had a choice between either the S&W revolver or a 3rd Gen Glock 23 in .40S&W. I carried that 23 for 17 years, when I retired I stuck a note in the box with my phone number. Hopefully someday when that beat up old beast gets traded in I will get a call about it.
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My first duty gun was a S&W model 66-1 4 inch .357 Magnum. Our duty ammo however was 38 spl +P+. City fathers were scared of the word Magnum. We went to 9mm,s in the late 90,s. I carried a Sig P229 till I retired in 2011.